WM5 Bluetooth GPS Issues - RESOLVED!!! - General Topics

Hello All,
Just got my Atom working with Bluetooth GPS (Leadtek 9537). Others seem to be having issues as well, so thought I'd post a solution.
Spent a little time looking for a solution but couldn't find one posted here.
I was having problem connecting as my GPS Software (Desinator PN) was not seeing the GPS comm port.
Extract from wm5fixsite
1. Establish a bond with your GPS and select the checkbox for serial access.
2. In BT, select the new OUTGOING port to 8.
3. In the GPS control panel, select the GPS program to 0 and make sure that the hardware one, is set to None.
4. Start PN and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close PN.
5. At the GPS control panel again, now set GPS Program Port to COM 8 (before we set it up at 0).
6. In BT Manager create a new OUTGOING COM port as COM0.
7. Back again to GPS control panel and select NONE for both hardware and program ports.
8. Finally start PN and it should connect automatically. Wait for a couple of seconds and click the GPS settings and you should see it has connected.
Cam

Big Buttons.
I assume therefore that you have PN working? How did you resolve the "Big Button" problem of Destinator PN in WM5. I have been told by the local agent that a WM5 fix is several months away in Oz?

I don't know of any big button problem
PN is working with no issues for me. Cept I can't get the TExt to Speach working
Cam

cyeoh said:
4. Start PN and the GPS settings, select another bluetooth GPS, and you will see COM 0 free. Select COM 0 and close PN.
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This is where it all goes pear-shaped for me, Cam. Com0 isn't there (or free).
Kevin

Make sure the
"Manage GPS Automatically (recommended) is checked in
The Access Tab of Settings >> GPS

Yep...had that checked....

Yeah mine just screwed up and I'm having issues reconnecting.
I'll figure it out and let you know
Cam

Okay It worked for me if I started from Scratch
Delete Bluetooth GPS
Set all Control Panel GPS settings to None
Load PN and Go to GPS settings and save and Close PN
Then re add Bluetooth GPS and do the procedure above.
Worked for me again.

Nah ...tried that a gazillion times. Sometimes I get Comm 0 in the PN settings, and if I close it and re-open it it's changed to Comm 2 instead.
Seems I'm doomed to 3.075 till they bring out a patch.
Kevin

Yeah that happened to me too.
You need to do it exactly in the correct order with nothing inbetween.
But if that doesn't work. Dunno.
3.075 isn't too bad. PN just looks different and calcuates faster.
I can't get Text to Speech working. Anyone else had issues with it?

WM5 and bluetooth GPS
Cam, thanks for the advice. Have finally managed to get my GPS connected to the Atom. Unfortunately I now get a "GPS not found" error periodically. Destinator PN then reconnects to the GPS but will come up with the same error again sometime later. There doesn't seem to many rythm to when the GPS drops out. Has anybody else experienced this and if so is there a fix???

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Tilt with HTC ROM - GPS Issue

I have a Tilt (8925) with the stickied HTC ROM. Everything has been great, but I am having issues with GPS. I have downloaded both Google Maps and Live, gone in and checked the GPS settings of COM4 and Baud 4800. Neither of the two applications recognize that I have GPS. Am I missing something? Do I need to enable something on the device that I do not have active?
Thanks in advance!! Best Forum on the NET!
go to settings> System > External GPS settings
Programs should be COM4:
Hardware should be (None) and 57600
Access should be "checked"
Kaiser's GPS works differently from the others (I was using the Trinity) and the GPS Streams does not update like like the trinity.
After that, go to an open space, and get a sync first.
Thereafter, its all ok.
Thanks for the input. I have made the suggested changes and will get out in the open and try again. I'll post back with results.
When on the 8925 firmware, I manually set com4/4800 in google maps. And it never could get a sync in time, despite me running quickgps. I had to use another program to jumpstart it, which would take anywhere from 1 to 4 minutes the first time.
Now that I'm on htc firmware, I just let all the gps settings at default. Didn't configure them in google maps (default there is to use windows settings). Ran quickgps. Google maps gave me the couldn't do it message 3 or 4 times. But I was just playing around still and one time it just locked on. Ever since, it gets a lock in about 5-10 seconds.
After going outside, the GPS finally enabled and I was able to use it with Google Maps and Live. Before today, I had tried to do it inside....thanks again for the tip!
I tried this; clicked okay. I tried soft reset/hard reset and neither keeps the new setting (from 4800 to 57600).
Any ideas?
Note: I just upgrade to 2.0.0.12 from 1.00 so let me see if that solves the problem. Will report back.
Note2: That solved the problem (who knew that upgrading could actually fix something).
hangyong said:
go to settings> System > External GPS settings
Programs should be COM4:
Hardware should be (None) and 57600
Access should be "checked"
Kaiser's GPS works differently from the others (I was using the Trinity) and the GPS Streams does not update like like the trinity.
After that, go to an open space, and get a sync first.
Thereafter, its all ok.
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Any chance of returning to MDA Vario 3 Rom

The t Mobile rom, while missing many useless gadgets like touch flo, at least worked with Tomtom without a hitch & Google Maps??
ANY idea how I can go back???
None of the posts on to get tt6 going worked for me.
TT works, but never ever finds a satelite, let alone a lock....
Thx!
Had the same problem here. What I did to get it working is the following:
Firts go to External GPS settings then uncheck the manage GPS automatically box and start any gps software. You will notice nothing happens. Then turn your phone off and on. not soft-reset.
Then when your phone is running start any GPS software. Still nothing happens. Go back to the manage GPS automatically box and check it.
Now runs any GPS software and it will start as it should. Don't know what this is but I also have a vario III and I have to do this every time a flash a non t-mobile rom. But now my tomtom works. Oh and be sure you have a tomtom which supports built in GPS.
I guess that the only way to go back is if someone has a copy of the original ROM - but it's a pity that you can't get TT to work without going back.
I posted this in one of the other TT forums and it did seem to help the guy out - maybe worth a try before reflashing...
... If your phone is showing 'connecting to gps' it's possible that there is a port conflict. Try the following:
1. Start TomTom
2. Tap screen where the satellite bars are - bottom left. (look like phone signal strength bars).
3. Tap sattelites again on right.
4. On sattelite screen select 'configure'.
5. Select 'Other NMEA GPS receiver'.
6. Select baud rate. Try with the default of 4800. (Mine works with 4800 upwards).
7. Tap 'done' then select com port. Mine had com4 and com7 available. Com4 worked and com7 didn't (hung like yours did).
8. Go outside and wait 20 minutes. If you get a fix, or the message reads 'waiting for sattelites (or similar) you have the right port.
If this doesn't work, try changing the port. Possibly, also try turning off your bluetooth because I believe that this can use the same port as your GPS.
ach2 said:
I guess that the only way to go back is if someone has a copy of the original ROM - but it's a pity that you can't get TT to work without going back.
I posted this in one of the other TT forums and it did seem to help the guy out - maybe worth a try before reflashing...
... If your phone is showing 'connecting to gps' it's possible that there is a port conflict. Try the following:
1. Start TomTom
2. Tap screen where the satellite bars are - bottom left. (look like phone signal strength bars).
3. Tap sattelites again on right.
4. On sattelite screen select 'configure'.
5. Select 'Other NMEA GPS receiver'.
6. Select baud rate. Try with the default of 4800. (Mine works with 4800 upwards).
7. Tap 'done' then select com port. Mine had com4 and com7 available. Com4 worked and com7 didn't (hung like yours did).
8. Go outside and wait 20 minutes. If you get a fix, or the message reads 'waiting for sattelites (or similar) you have the right port.
If this doesn't work, try changing the port. Possibly, also try turning off your bluetooth because I believe that this can use the same port as your GPS.
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USE GPS TEST FOR CORRECT SETTINGS.
Cause mine is Com 4 9600
Tutorial: http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176

No Gps Device Problem!

I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
pdamd said:
I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
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1 Run QuickGPS
2 Ensure that in Tomtom GPS is configured as other NMEA, comm 4, and 4800.
I have the same problem. Did you wait long enough? It takes about 10s or more to initialize TomTom itself and then he starts looking for a GPS device. And indeed I ran QuickGPS too, good practice
pdamd said:
I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
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If you read the HTC documentation, you'll see that you've to first (before installing the TomTom software) run the QuickGPS fix application. After that, install your TomTom SW, your card. Normally you won't have to change anything to the GPS configuration. The TomTom SW come configured with "Internal GPS Antenna" and should work like this.
Of course you have to be outside when you run the GPS
Be patient the first time. My Polaris take about 2 to 5 minutes before initializing the GPS. After that, 10 to 20 secs is generally needed to initialize the GPS (cold start).
you've to first (before installing the TomTom software) run the QuickGPS fix application
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I didn't run quickgps before installing tomtom and it works perfectly.
I reinstall TomTom and choose other NMEA, com 4, 2400.
I will also try with 4800.
In my case, the gps is incredible. It fix gps in 10 to 20 seconds.
Ziggy
pdamd said:
I have an HTC Touch Cruise and have installed TomTom 6 that came with the device. When I start it up, however, I get the message "No GPS Device!" in the lower left corner. Any ideas about how to get the handheld to see my internal GPS? I really thought this should work as the TomTom software provided on the CD appears to be modified for the Polaris.
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Hi,
Mine works just fine. However, when I start TomTom I also get the message "No GPS Device!" bottom left. After a while it changes to "Waiting for a valid GPS signal..." This is typical if you are not receieving any GPS info because the device can't 'see' the satellites. On the bottom right of the screen you will see 5 'strength' indicators. Tap on this to bring up the next screen. At the top right there will be a battery strength indicator. Under this there is again a signal strenth indicator (with text 0 satelites). Tap on this and you should get the GPS Status screen. Tapping the 'configure button' should show the 'built-in GPS receiver' - tap Select to return. Once you move your device to a position where it can 'see' some satelites this will be shown on the GPS status screen.
In summary, the message really means 'no GPS signal' rather than no GPS device present.
Cheers
Michael
GPS not working, please help!
Hi my friends!
I can't get GPS to work on my TC!!
I know I have to run quickgps first, but ONCE I did, and since that I always get the message that it couldn't connect, try later. I know that there is a file here that I can install on the device, and I did it successfully, but nothing changed.
I have installed the program on the device, it prompted me that it will replace the existing one, and I ran it after a soft reset. Still can't connect.
What is strange for me, is that I have downloaded a program called sirftech, that can tell on which port my built-in device is listening on, but it couldn't find my gps device. It founds somethings on com7 and com9 but to no avail.
on com4 at 4800 nothing happens.
I also install iGO 2006 which is quite familiar here in Europe, but it also cant nor detect neither use any gps. I have been waiting for 20 minutes with this program to get the satellite data, but nothing.
I am lost here!
Anybody having the same problem?
Or my device may be faulty???
moire76 said:
Hi my friends!
I can't get GPS to work on my TC!!
I know I have to run quickgps first, but ONCE I did, and since that I always get the message that it couldn't connect, try later. I know that there is a file here that I can install on the device, and I did it successfully, but nothing changed.
I have installed the program on the device, it prompted me that it will replace the existing one, and I ran it after a soft reset. Still can't connect.
What is strange for me, is that I have downloaded a program called sirftech, that can tell on which port my built-in device is listening on, but it couldn't find my gps device. It founds somethings on com7 and com9 but to no avail.
on com4 at 4800 nothing happens.
I also install iGO 2006 which is quite familiar here in Europe, but it also cant nor detect neither use any gps. I have been waiting for 20 minutes with this program to get the satellite data, but nothing.
I am lost here!
Anybody having the same problem?
Or my device may be faulty???
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My GPS run well on my TC. First of all, I think it is normal that the program "SirfTech" don't find your GPS because the GPS Chipset into the Touch Cruise isn't a Sirf but it is integrated into the Qualcomm 7200 (processor).
Now to come back to your problem I suggest you to redo the TomTom installation. But before, insure to uninstall the previous version (not apply as an update).
Uninstall TomTom
Restart your device
Run QuickGPS
Reinstall TomTom (from the HTC CD). Install it into the main memory of your device, not on the storage card !
Restart your device
Launch TomTom / configure it
Check the configuration of your GPS (into "Change preferences" => "Show GPS Status" => "Configure" (Select your GPS receiver)
Built-in GPS received should be selected by default. If it is not the case, choose this option
Go outside and wait 1 to 5 minutes (should be less). Normally TomTom will work.
Hope it help.
I had the same problem yesterday. The GPS had functionned well but suddenly it would not start anymore. Once I switched the unit off (press the on/off button for about 5 secs) and on again it worked without problems. Probably you can just do a soft reset by pushing the resetbutton.
Thank you for you answer!!!
I have never installed tom tom, because I already have another navigation software, igo. the problem is that i cannot run quickgps, it is saying "Connection failed. Please try again later."
I already downloaded and installed the quickgps found on this forum, but it is the same.
so does it make any sense installing any program until I can't run quickgps?
or should the gps work also without quickgps just slower at startup?
(offtopic: and why my device sometimes does start charging if I connect to usb cable, and sometimes it does not??)
moire76 said:
Thank you for you answer!!!
I have never installed tom tom, because I already have another navigation software, igo. the problem is that i cannot run quickgps, it is saying "Connection failed. Please try again later."
I already downloaded and installed the quickgps found on this forum, but it is the same.
so does it make any sense installing any program until I can't run quickgps?
or should the gps work also without quickgps just slower at startup?
(offtopic: and why my device sometimes does start charging if I connect to usb cable, and sometimes it does not??)
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Which ROM are you using ?
Thank you for your post, but I have already tried both the restart and the reset button, but nor helped.
I am getting nervous.
But I have found a solution to my off-topic question: There was a check marked saying "Do not charge the device when turned on and connected to PC" In settings > Power. After I unchecked, it charges from usb even turned on.
I hope that my gps problem is so easy as well, but I just simply can't get it to work...
edsel said:
I had the same problem yesterday. The GPS had functionned well but suddenly it would not start anymore. Once I switched the unit off (press the on/off button for about 5 secs) and on again it worked without problems. Probably you can just do a soft reset by pushing the resetbutton.
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Thank you, it is
1.25.405.1 wwe; dated 12/11/07
radio is 1.58.21.23
protocol: 25.65.30.04h
academic said:
Which ROM are you using ?
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SOLVED!!!
Dear friends!
Thank you all for your kind help!
I have solved the GPS problem.
I am so stupid that I couldn't find this solution earlier...
So, Under Settings there is an option called External GPS.
It was not set up correctly. Now the GPS program port is set to COM1, the hardware port is (none), baud rate is 4800, and checkbox is checked, this is important. And igo is set manually to use com1.
Now iGO is able to seen 6 satellites from my desk near to the closed window!!
It is not yet found the position but it is working on it (i am patient as quickgps is still not working)
Thank you all and I hope I will help someone else later.
Moire
What device are you using? I have an HTC p3300 and have had this problem foreverr.
NO GPS Device!!! Please help
I bought my HTC TC yesterday. I previously used the Kaiser.
I've flashed to Bepe rom and then installed Tomtom from the CD.
I have not not been able to get any GPS signal yet.
I have read this thread but it still does not work. The yellow and blue icon on the GPS status screen doesnt move either. I have updated the quickGPS software but it didnt help.
I hve off course chosen internal GPS antenna in the configuration part.
Should I configurate the external GPS application or is it irrelevant anyway since I am not using it? and if yes how? What should be the settings (if this is relevant)?
Should I maybe change my Radio version? Can it help?
Please help
Thanks
Edit: After 2 days of trying it, no it works, I was ready to hard reset and installed sprite back-up. I have no idea why it did not work and why it is working now...
Anyway
my first polaris had the problem to get the position after 10-20 min outside a building , and then the sat-Bars on tomtom sat-konfig jumps around with every satellit forever. sometimes my car goes 347km/h ))). so when i press with my fingers hard on the back near the camera, it fixes the Position on gps. This seems to be a contactproblem between the gps-Antenna and the Receiver. I send it back, got a new one, now it runs like it shut.
it shut also run without quickgps, it only starts slower. Quickgps is just downloading a little database with the sattellites what are now in sight.
otherwise the gps-rec has to wait, to get all sats what are now on the horizon .
i think you have a connectionproblem to the internetserver from witch qgps get the data, if you can surf the internet with the polari, qgps shut download.
hope it helps
Piki

How to test the gps?

What is a good program that works with the TP so that I can test to see if my built in gps is working correctly?
I have TOMTOM7 installed and the application works but I can never see any satellites.
I tried mapopolis but i can't seem to establish a connection to the gps.
I updated the gps info using quick gps.
What com port and baud rate does the unit use?
What settings should I have in the "external gps" settings?
Thanks for your help!
Use the attached program to test the GPS.
It will search COM ports automatically
But I guess you can know the port from the settings tabs "External GPS" icon if it's like Kaiser
Anyway, I will be of further use in like 4 days
pjmiebach said:
What is a good program that works with the TP so that I can test to see if my built in gps is working correctly?
I have TOMTOM7 installed and the application works but I can never see any satellites.
I tried mapopolis but i can't seem to establish a connection to the gps.
I updated the gps info using quick gps.
What com port and baud rate does the unit use?
What settings should I have in the "external gps" settings?
Thanks for your help!
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ok it seems its on com 4 with baud rate of 9600.
ill put it by the window and see if any satellites come up.
The screen just right now says: GPS starting up
Edit: ok great I just got 3 satellites. I guess it works!
Great that it works
You need at least 4 though to get a fix
Kindly, post your radio info and your location and let me know how many satellites did you view (press up on dpad as the 1st screen shows only upto 8 and it can see more, hopefully)
pjmiebach said:
ok it seems its on com 4 with baud rate of 9600.
ill put it by the window and see if any satellites come up.
The screen just right now says: GPS starting up
Edit: ok great I just got 3 satellites. I guess it works!
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posting the number of satelites you receive is a bit pointless.
This will depend on many factors such as
1) The number of sats viewable at any given time in your area (the sats are not geostationary and therefore move around)
2) The location of the sats during the test - some could be close to the horizon and therefore have a week signal
3) Weather conditions, cloud rain etc,
4) Terrain
etc
etc
Basically, you are right.
But if you are fast enough, you can test several radios in the same 10 mins.
And you can judge by testing in the same place which radio is better for GPS (Fix & View).
A mention of your location will be a referrence for others.
There's a thread with more radio fuss to hold such info to be useful in the future.
Hi pjmiebach - thanks for the hint and the software - I get 4 satellits (yellow beamer) but when I tryit again with Google Maps it finds no Satellite ???
Any explanation from yur side ?
as a matter of fact, on-board GPS works with just about any baud rate you select - so choose the fastest
peter7 said:
Hi pjmiebach - thanks for the hint and the software - I get 4 satellits (yellow beamer) but when I tryit again with Google Maps it finds no Satellite ???
Any explanation from yur side ?
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errr It worked find with TOMTOM7 after taking like 15 min to find it's first fix. Never tried Google maps yet cause my data plan doesn't start until the 8th of Sept.
you can start google maps and check in the right menu for gps and tap that one so it uses the internal gps instead of internetconnection.
it is also a good idea to goto connectionsettings and wipe all existing connections as activesync wont require these and you can download them later from the provider website or by running the carriersetup
ok. ive broken something on my raph. gps was working fine when i flew up to sydneyim guessing ive fiddled with something (external gps setings) and now no worky. tom tom7 is set to internal. if i disable external gps gpstest pauses on com 3 but nothing. if i turn windows on. it stops on com 4 shows some progress bars but they are all at 0 ive soft reset. taken the battery out canter figure out whatsoever wrong. any ideas would be awesome
TT7 and google maps
My tt7 takes 2 - 3 minutes to get a fix.
Google maps takes about 10 secs.
If i start tt7 right after i used gm it takes about 20 secs to get a fix.
I'm gonna try gpsgate and changing the baudrate a bit, see if it helps.
I'll let you know.
** Edit **
GPSGate does the trick for me.
Buy it at your fav appstore and create a new virtual com port for all NMEA progs, go to tt7 gps settings select other nmea device, select the com you just created, at max speed.
com port problem
atreidae said:
ok. ive broken something on my raph. gps was working fine when i flew up to sydneyim guessing ive fiddled with something (external gps setings) and now no worky. tom tom7 is set to internal. if i disable external gps gpstest pauses on com 3 but nothing. if i turn windows on. it stops on com 4 shows some progress bars but they are all at 0 ive soft reset. taken the battery out canter figure out whatsoever wrong. any ideas would be awesome
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My Raphael do the same but after hard reset will be work again.
mzperxfl said:
My Raphael do the same but after hard reset will be work again.
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Me too! :-( No, I really do not enjoy hard resets...
Another nice GPS testing software is VisualGPSce. Be sure to get that.
I wonder if the problem was with QuickGPS. VisualGPSce was telling me that it "saw" 11 satellites, but wasn't able to lock onto any of them. I know that it had worked previously, but then I had a couple of days break and QuickGPS had updated it's data during that time. After the Hard Reset, I haven't used QuickGPS.
About the performance... seems to get fix quite fast, but looses them very easily too. I tracked today a half hour buss ride and I frequently lost the connection. (Sure it was not the most optimal situation...). Also the accuracy wasn't that good - well, either the GPS or Google Maps. actually VisualGPS showed that the GPS wasn't very accurate in following what was happening. The velocity would go to 0 only about 10 seconds after the buss had stopped at trafic lights or buss stop. Actually the buss frequently took of before the GPS showed us stopped. And then it was extremely slow on catching up. On Google Maps you could see the dot still advancing when the buss had stopped for that 10 seconds. Completely off the road - but that might as well be Googles error.
I do not have TomTom on this, but certainly the speed accuracy from VisualGPSce is not nearly as accurate as my TomTom 720.
Check also that the assisted GPS is not active.
If this option is actived, you lose the signal each x seconds.
To check this option I use Advanced config.
Note : I've a Diamond and one Raphael, same configuration, the Diamond find a fix into 40sec and the Raphael takes sometimes 5min!!!.
NLS said:
as a matter of fact, on-board GPS works with just about any baud rate you select - so choose the fastest
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i find this to be true as well but the kaiser gps radio worked far better than this touch pro in every app I tried. I can put the TP in my car window and get a signal with random disconnects but if i put it in my lap i cant get anything. I could put the kaiser in my trun and be fine lol. Hopefully some upgrades to the radio software will be coming soon. Same result with me with .19 and .31
Hello,
I tested GPSTuner 5.4, VisualGPS, GoogleMaps and TomTom 7 and I have a strange problem... I installed thos programs after hard reset to be sure...
In the GPS information window the GPS position changes but the speed is always 0km/h and in TomTom or GoogleMaps my position on the map don't move...
Have you seens this problem ?
Any kind of solution ?
PLZ....
PS :
Where can I find rom &Radio version ?
What is your TomTom 7 version ?
Hello All..
this is my first post. I just received my TP today via Vodafone. I havwe sucessfully loaded on TomTom 6 and I have it working with the TT external GPS receiver.
can someone advise me whether the Touch Pro's internal GPS will work and if so, how do I go about setting it up.
PS, I only see 4 options in TT6, and none say internal.
Thanks in advance for any assistance

Oh No! Another GPS thread

I've seen lots of people complaining about poor GPS performance - slow to lock, not finding many sats, lag, etc.
But I can't get anything at all from my Touch Pro. I've tried several radio roms, no difference, tweaking the registry settings, and programs called GPSID Settings, GPS Test, and HTC GPS Tool, all without any success.
I believe I should be able to use the HTC GPS Tool to debug, and see the actually serial output of the onboard GPS? But I can't even do that, whatever serial port I try to open I get the message "Failed to send NMEA command...". This suggests to me that the onboard GPS is not giving any response at all, rather than not being able to lock?
Can anyone confirm 100% what com port and baud I should be able to find the on board GPS with? Is there anything else I can try?
BTW, my external B/T GPS works fine with my touch pro, but it would be nice to have the onboard GPS working too.
TP GPS always uses COM4 and any baud (I've tried 4800 to 115200).
Your post is not a "thread" yet and I doubt it will be.
Just search the other threads.
a bit dettered when reading all these GPS problems. Once I've got mine I've had no problem at al besides it showing me a bit off the road in Google Maps. as far as for settings its always been the same COM4 Baud 4800
mike-b said:
I've seen lots of people complaining about poor GPS performance - slow to lock, not finding many sats, lag, etc.
But I can't get anything at all from my Touch Pro. I've tried several radio roms, no difference, tweaking the registry settings, and programs called GPSID Settings, GPS Test, and HTC GPS Tool, all without any success.
I believe I should be able to use the HTC GPS Tool to debug, and see the actually serial output of the onboard GPS? But I can't even do that, whatever serial port I try to open I get the message "Failed to send NMEA command...". This suggests to me that the onboard GPS is not giving any response at all, rather than not being able to lock?
Can anyone confirm 100% what com port and baud I should be able to find the on board GPS with? Is there anything else I can try?
BTW, my external B/T GPS works fine with my touch pro, but it would be nice to have the onboard GPS working too.
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The default com port is 4. Usually most GPS application should be able to detect it automatically.
NLS said:
TP GPS always uses COM4 and any baud (I've tried 4800 to 115200).
Your post is not a "thread" yet and I doubt it will be.
Just search the other threads.
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Sorry, I thought I did start a new thread, and I have searched - that's how I know about other people's GPS issues. But I haven't seen anyone else with the same problem as me yet.
I get nothing on COM4 at any baud rate.
TomTom says 'NO GPS Device'
HTC GPS Tool says "Failed to send NMEA command..." on COM4 (at all baud rates).
Google maps - when set to "Managed by Windows" just says Searching(0) and gives up after about 5 minutes.
When Google Maps is manually set to COM4 it says "Initialising.." in the top right corner then hangs, and then refuses to reload until I do a soft reset.
Is this what's supposed to happen?
No it's not.
You could have a hardware problem.
I had that issue after uninstalling google navigator 4 trial.Hard reset helped.
Also check Start > Settings > System > External GPS and make sure the Program Port is set to COM4, Hardware should be Port None and Baud at 4800 and Access tab should be checked to Manage GPS Automatically.
I have the "dreaded GPS lag" issue. I don't have this issue but I have found that my GPS is best with the Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25. I still have to wait sometimes upwards of 3 minutes for a lock sometimes when the sky is cloudy but it seems to work pretty well.
I suggest you try the following
1. Flash to the radio I mentioned above.
2. Go to Start/Settings/System/AGPS Settings
On the General tab, uncheck "Enable AGPS
On the privacy tab, select the following options:
1. Enable AGPS location information to network services. Operator can get your location information.
2. When send location info. to network services: Send postion info directly
3. Close confirmation message after: 10 second
3. Go to Start/Settings/System/External GPS and make the following changes:
On Programs tab: set GPS program port to: COM4
On Hardware tab: set GPS hardware port to: (None)
On Hardware tab: set Baud rate to: 4800
On access tab: check: Manage GPS Automatically (recommended)
4. Follow the instructions posted by omega01 here:
omega01 said:
A lot of people have problems with the TouchPro GPS especially for pedestrian use...
From stock the TP GPS is quite unsable in car especially with TomTom 7 and totally unusable for pedestrian use.
After 2 weeks of reading and testing tweaks, here are the results of my tests and the applied tweaks to enhance the GPS performance
A. With Advanced config 3.2 http://www.touchxperience.com/fr/ou...ads/9-advanced-configuration-tool-32-cab.html
1. disable A-GPS
2. disable GPS logging
3. logfile name must be empty
4. old logfile name must be empty
5. maximum size of logfile must be 0
6 delete the files : \windows\GPSLogFile.txt and \windows\GPSLogFileBack.txt
7. it seems that if TomTom is installed on a fast microSD decrease the lag(have to test to be sure)
With those changes car usage will be quite perfect
B. Then edit registry with TotalCommander http://ghisler.fileburst.com/ce/tcmdpocketarm.cab
Under: HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\GPS Intermediate Driver\
- Drivers\GpsOneDevice\PollInterval -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Drivers\InputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\OutputBufferSize -> 512 (default is 4096)
- Drivers\SleepOnNoData -> 100 (default is 1000)
- Multiplexer\MaxBufferSize -> 512 (by default not present, you have to create it)
Tests to be done with buffers at 256...seems to be a little better
Tests to be done with other PollInterval value...seems to "drain" battery
With those tweaks pedestrian usage will be much better but not perfect...I explain.
You have to walk for a least 250m in order to have a reposition with mouvement on the map (before that, speed is always 0km/h) and then if you continue to walk there is quite no lag...and the speed reflect reality
...BUT if you stops you have to walk again for a least 250m in order to have a reposition with mouvement on the map and then if you continue to walk there is quite no lag...
Very strange indeed...
I hope this will help people...please test and feedback.
PS : tests were done with
TomTom_Navigator_7.450.9028_R3_VGA_black_edition
GoogleMaps 2.2.0.16 -- http://www.google.be/gmm/GoogleMaps.CAB
GPSTuner 5.4 -- http://www.gpstuner.com/download/GPSTuner_v5.CAB
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If that doesn't help you get a better, if not good, lock with your Touch PRO then you have to have some kinda of hardware problem.
I have an HTC Fuze from USA AT&T activated on T-Mobile USA and I don't even have access to T-Mobile's AGPS Servers and my GPS locks are usually relatively quick.
Good luck!
Dan
dharvey4651 said:
I have the "dreaded GPS lag" issue. I don't have this issue but I have found that my GPS is best with the Blackstone Radio 1.10.25.25. I still have to wait sometimes upwards of 3 minutes for a lock sometimes when the sky is cloudy but it seems to work pretty well.
I suggest you try the following
1. Flash to the radio I mentioned above.
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I've been using .25.25 radio for the last week, changed to 1.09.25.35 today, but no improvement.
dharvey4651 said:
2. Go to Start/Settings/System/AGPS Settings
On the General tab, uncheck "Enable AGPS
On the privacy tab, select the following options:
1. Enable AGPS location information to network services. Operator can get your location information.
2. When send location info. to network services: Send postion info directly
3. Close confirmation message after: 10 second
3. Go to Start/Settings/System/External GPS and make the following changes:
On Programs tab: set GPS program port to: COM4
On Hardware tab: set GPS hardware port to: (None)
On Hardware tab: set Baud rate to: 4800
On access tab: check: Manage GPS Automatically (recommended)
4. Follow the instructions posted by omega01 here:
If that doesn't help you get a better, if not good, lock with your Touch PRO then you have to have some kinda of hardware problem.
I have an HTC Fuze from USA AT&T activated on T-Mobile USA and I don't even have access to T-Mobile's AGPS Servers and my GPS locks are usually relatively quick.
Good luck!
Dan
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Rechecked all my settings, but they were all already as above. Still no joy. Only other possibility is that it's being crippled by the ROM I'm using - stock 1.90.206.4 WWE O2 UK variant, although no one else seems to be having the same problem. I am trying to avoid reflashing the main ROM, as it would take hours to get all my programs and settings back to how I want them. Maybe when the 2.0 firmware is released...
I guess it could be a hardware fault, but it seems a bit of a long shot. I really don't fancy my chances of trying to convince o2 that it's a hardware fault.
Try this...
1. Install and configure SecondToday to the left soft-key
2. Install HTC Home Plugin for VGA
3. Install GPSToday plugin and configure it to 5 minute manual-on
4. Go to Start/Settings/Personal/Today and disable all but TouchFlo 3D
5. On your new SecondToday, enable HTC Home and GPSToday
6. On HTC Home's Programs Tab, add your favorite GPS program(TomTom, Garmin, Google Maps, Etc...)
7. Start GPSToday by clicking on the little red box on the far left. It may take about 2 minutes on the first try(it's this way after every soft-reset) but after that it should be much faster. As soon as you are locked on to 4 or more satelites start your favorite GPS program that you added to the programs tab of HTC home.
If it works like it did for me, you should be set. I now get GPS locks in less than 10 seconds every "second time" since it takes about 2 mins after each soft-reset.
You can download all the files I mentioned above here:
http://download.ppchaven.com/CDMA Devices/HTC Vogue/Users/dharvey/CABS/CAB FILES.rar
Good luck!!
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Maybe when the 2.0 firmware is released...
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IF you mean, not when
dharvey4651 said:
Try this...
1. Install and configure SecondToday to the left soft-key
2. Install HTC Home Plugin for VGA
3. Install GPSToday plugin and configure it to 5 minute manual-on
4. Go to Start/Settings/Personal/Today and disable all but TouchFlo 3D
5. On your new SecondToday, enable HTC Home and GPSToday
6. On HTC Home's Programs Tab, add your favorite GPS program(TomTom, Garmin, Google Maps, Etc...)
7. Start GPSToday by clicking on the little red box on the far left. It may take about 2 minutes on the first try(it's this way after every soft-reset) but after that it should be much faster. As soon as you are locked on to 4 or more satelites start your favorite GPS program that you added to the programs tab of HTC home.
If it works like it did for me, you should be set. I now get GPS locks in less than 10 seconds every "second time" since it takes about 2 mins after each soft-reset.
You can download all the files I mentioned above here:
http://download.ppchaven.com/CDMA Devices/HTC Vogue/Users/dharvey/CABS/CAB FILES.rar
Good luck!!
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Thanks for that. I've given it a try and it doesn't get a lock or even see a single satellite for me. I assume the number in the green box that appears next to the satellite symbol is the number of satellites it can see? It never changes from 0 anyway.
I've never seen a single satellite with the onboard GPS, nevermind gotten a position locked. Beginning to think it's a hardware fault, or my phone got missed when they were putting the GPS in! Convincing O2 that there's a fault will be one thing, then I'll have to flash it back to stock, including the stock bootloader before I send it in.
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IF you mean, not when
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That's why I put a string of dots on the end ot it...
Don't you think it's imminent, why would they release it for diamond and not touch pro?
I had the same problem for about 2 months, could never get a signal. It was solved when I changed ROM's. I actually tried like 7 ROM's and GPS didn't work in 6 of them. Once I tried RSW's ROM with updated GPS Drivers,,, I am able to always get a GPS signal now.
I do use 2 programs though.
1. QuickGPS to download GPS data.
2. Chartcross GPS Test to open my GPS Port.
Then I open up any GPS program and they all work. (Google Maps, Live Search, iGuidance)
COM Port should be COM4 obviously. When I've used a few GPS programs that "scanned" my phone, they all set the baud rate to 9600. You can't change the baud rate in Settings, but if you have to manually set your baud rate in your program, set it to 9600.
GPS reception significantly affected by case.
Just a FYI. I was a Fuze owner with significant problems with GPS. Could not get it to connect to anything for anything with anything. After trying everything I found on the forum I followed the instructions on this thread ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=473481&highlight=lock. and got a lock in under ten minutes. Put my phone back in the case and could no longer get a lock. It then dawned on me that my aluminum case was interfering with the gps chip. Did a bunch of tests which confirmed the reception improved drastically outside the case. It doesn't seem to influence the radio reception however which I find a bit strange. Anyway. My gps works reasonably well and I think people will benefit from knowing something as simple as the choice of case could have something to do with their gps reception.

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