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Hi, I'm thinking of buying a Vox to replace my trouble & strifes crappy N73.
I've been using PPC's for a few years so know them quite well but I don't know how simular the smartphone version is to tweak & if it will run any of the common softwares for the ppc.
I need to have a Thai keyboard & font installed as well as the Standard which in this case will be English. I can do this easily on a PPC but what about a smartphone ?
Can we create custom shortcuts/icons and what PPC softwares will run on the smartphone if any ?
Finally how stable is this device & is the speed a pain due to that weazy Omap 850 ? Any alternative choices would also be great.
Thanks.
Vox is a great little device.
Stable, full of options and now a step before seeing its cooked roms (let's hope).
On the other hand... I don't know your wife and please don't take it badly but, does she really need one?
I mean, except for the fact to handle Thai and English at the same time and popular software... I guess many other Smartphones would do the job.
I say that because a MS Smartphone is always trying to be more "Smart" than "Phone", while a N73 or any other NSeries (for example) will always be more "Phone" than "Smart" even tough they could have the same capabilities.
I'm pretty happy with my Vox. It's pretty slow compared to my previous Excalibur with WM6 but still... It's a good phone. Maybe an update will fix the slowness, nothing explains why an Excalibur with same CPU is faster so a solution must be there.
Would I recommend it to somebody just looking for a Smartphone... Well... If this person is really looking for a phone with keyboard, then yes, otherwise... A N80 from Ebay is ways cheaper and would do the job. Loads of software, easy to handle... Etc...
Why do I say this? Well, guess who bought a Wizard to his wife and sees the only thing she enjoys is the keyboard to send mails and SMS... My fault, it's not a toy for her...
Ka.
VOX is easy to use ... i know it!
i have gave some VOX to some assistence in my work and they can handle it! better then the PPC versions. for women are usefull programs on the wild ... womenizer LOL
kast said:
Vox is a great little device.
Stable, full of options and now a step before seeing its cooked roms (let's hope).
On the other hand... I don't know your wife and please don't take it badly but, does she really need one?
I mean, except for the fact to handle Thai and English at the same time and popular software... I guess many other Smartphones would do the job.
I say that because a MS Smartphone is always trying to be more "Smart" than "Phone", while a N73 or any other NSeries (for example) will always be more "Phone" than "Smart" even tough they could have the same capabilities.
I'm pretty happy with my Vox. It's pretty slow compared to my previous Excalibur with WM6 but still... It's a good phone. Maybe an update will fix the slowness, nothing explains why an Excalibur with same CPU is faster so a solution must be there.
Would I recommend it to somebody just looking for a Smartphone... Well... If this person is really looking for a phone with keyboard, then yes, otherwise... A N80 from Ebay is ways cheaper and would do the job. Loads of software, easy to handle... Etc...
Why do I say this? Well, guess who bought a Wizard to his wife and sees the only thing she enjoys is the keyboard to send mails and SMS... My fault, it's not a toy for her...
Ka.
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She can get by with a nokia or SE but this would seem to be a perfect balance between phone & PDA for her.
The main thing is second langauge input for these things.
She has been using my old HTC Prophet which I installed with Thai font & a SIP Thai keyboard. How do I install asian langauges to a smartphone ? anyone here done this ?
I have installed a cab I got from a Thread on Modaco which provides several T9 languages. Unfortunately Thai is not included. I bet it must exist, in case I find one I'll tell you right away.
Ka.
I spotted that t9 languages cab, I suppose in time people will add more languages.
Dopod do a dual Language for English/Chinese but nothing for Thai yet !
I'll keep looking.
Thanks for your help.
Mr B.
I found an article where somebody describes how to build your own Thai files.
It's for another phone (Still MS but other OS version) I'll see if something can be made out of it.
Ka.
Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
Please read the already posted threads relating to your questions...
These questions have been asked and answered several times before, so please use the search tool.
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Hi , got my new orbit 2 (polaris) the other day and im not that impressed by it as yet.
I came from using my trusty vario(wizard) and it doesnt seem (as yet) much quicker than that.
I know it has built in gps, radio etc. But i cant put me finger on it why it hasnt impressed me much. i played a bit of video on it and it was a bit jumpy, also scroll is a bit iffy.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what it can do and do better than my old phone?
Or what to use to make it a pleasure to use.
Thanks.
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Believe me..it could be one of most impressif pocketphone's out there..but the only problem with this device is that HTC didn't do there homework that good and put this device to soon on the market.
But when the new firmware (with drivers) come's online it will be one of the finest pocketphone's out there at the moment.
The only think for us is to pray that HTC will make the firmware with the drivers, otherwise it will go into be books as a slow and bad preforming device 4-ever and HTC will loose a lot of trusty customers!
But like the other also said..it's being sad in a lot off topics now..so lets use the other threads for the complenning
i agree. i bought mine a week ago. the touch cruise and i am not that impress coming from a tmobile mda aka wizard. i still use my wizard. love it but cruise slow. internet is slow. features are wack. the only good thing is the radio but i dnt listen to radio and tomtom navigation. i live in nyc i use the subway so not that usefull to me. htc better come good or its apple for me.
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htc better come good or its apple for me.
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This is exactly what I'm thinking...HTC really messed this wicked phone up....Gonna wait for the Xperia or Samsung i900.
You aren't getting drivers for it. You are getting a software patch that helps fix a few things like scrolling and some basic touch screen functionality, nothing to do with video.
unfortunately, if you want to watch movies you have to convert them yourself and spend the time doing it, then you can have some fun with high quality movies or shows.
i will think twice before I buy my next handset. I don't expect the most amazing device in the world, but I don't like to be mislead in advertising.
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
Can someone give me some links to help please? Thanks.
JNGold said:
Funny, I find my Cruise does everything I ask of it. I find it an improvement in almost every way over the KJAM (OC'ed to 247mhz), and the Treo 750.
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How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
Opera 9.33
OTO
Calculator skin
WMP Skin
Advanced Configuration
PocketCM Keyboard (one of the best touch apps....never knew I could touch type that fast)
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its potential. Compared to my friend's Hermes...thats faster....got suckered into touch and WM6 Pro....
Where as touch v1 is a decent attempt (O2 just messed it up) I'm sure V2 only get better...Microsoft really need to integrate touch into the OS..(whats with the small up arrow next to keyboard selection on the taskbar...with so much empty space around it?....saving on real estate ?).
To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago...(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
At the moment we will have to wait for what improvements HTC brings to this COOL LOOKING phone.
Sorry...I'm just a bit disapointed.
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we have 2 differents polaris , mine is the all time better pocketpc (I owned all the precedent)
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
pistonripper said:
How is your cruise setup?
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Mine is setup like everyone else. I have done all the performance hacks I know of (WM Cache, GlypheCache set to 64K, etc). I have over 25 applications installed.
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
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Coreplayer just released 1.2 which performs much better on the TC. Also, I have encoded many of my vids for PPC viewing since I have owned nothing but WM devices for many years now.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
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Disable the shutter sound, it helps.
I for one am willing help in what it takes to have this phone running to at least 2/3 of its To me this OS looks/feels the same as the one I had on my SPV C500 years ago.
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Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile. However, the inclusion of Touch Flo is probably the most unique WM experience offered by a WM device.
..(have you seen the WM6 original calculator !) 3rd party can only do so much.
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Install the HTC Calculator.
Well I think HTC better watch out....to sell an expensive phone half finished...well what you say...advertising SOLD IT. But theres a few phones coming out soon and if they utilize the hardware and have half decent software then HTC will have to up the ante...should be interesting.
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Aside from the video driver issues (which BTW hasn't bothered me that much), what software do expect HTC to ship with the device? HTC has done a good job integrating TouchFlo and HTC today into WM. It sounds to me like your complaints software-wise are more directed to MS rather than HTC.
Stu308 said:
Aww, no one being much help to me here. Come on guys give us a clue.
Don't know whether to swap it for a Kaiser/stellar instead????
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Since both devices are the same performance and feature-wise your only decision is whether you require a physical keyboard on the Tytn II.
pistonripper said:
I've just installed Coreplayer .....runs pathetic....picture hardly moves when running a 480MB avi.
Camera...you can forget that....never seen such rubbish...I'm sure the image quality is good...nobody should have to wait that long to take a picture.
I have a UK O2 Orbit 2....got rid of the O2 taskbar icon (after reading it was a memory hogger).
Installed :
HTC Home Screen...
HTC Theme (black) tsk file 102KB vs 200+KB for the 02 Theme.
Skype
Core Player 1.1.1
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I would suggest you installing Core Player 1.2.0
Thanks all...going to install Coreplayer 1.2.0....I did the tweaks, glyph and sound on the shutter..no effect really...maybe I've got a dud....warms up too in my hand....
Also if anyone is running the HTC home screen...which one is it ?...there so many to choose from...
Is there one specifically for the Polaris ?...I've seached and found many versions and variations.
but why does it seem as slow as my wizard? I thought the processor was supposed to be much faster? And the scrolling is finnicky to say the least.
i just downloaded coreplayer 1.3.0. whats so special about core player?
it's the player which supports most formats
I have the Orbit 2, and when I first tried using Internet Explorer I was very disappointed with the extremely slow and jerky scroll, if you could call it 'scroll'. Now that I have managed to install SPB Pocket Plus with the 'Smart Scroll' feature enabled, I'm now happy with that aspect. I haven’t tried video on it yet, but my thoughts now are that I do like the device, especially because of its form factor and looks. Before the Orbit 2 I had the SPV M3100 (Hermes), prior to this I had the SPV C500, and prior to that I had the original windows Smartphone, the Orange SPV.
For me, the Orbit is a step in the right direction, but I will be a little disappointed if video is unusable.
Overall I am happy with my Cruise (I have gotten a sim-free version). Apparently a number of people complain about speed, and I have noticed that this is also related to owners of Cruise who are on the O2 network. My guess is O2 loaded their version with useless software which reduces performance.
Regarding the video issue, I user Coreplayer 1.2 (coreplayer is a must), I encode my videos in QVGA resolution and they seem fine to me. True, you won't be able to take an existing DVD quality rip and expect Cruise to show it well, even in Coreplayer.
Performance-wise, Cruise could probably do a little better given its specs, but overall, I still think it is a very good and practival device.
Hopefully video issue will be addressed, I am not 100% confident it will be fully resolved though. Though the device works fine for me, it is quite upsetting to know that its hardware is not fully utilised...
As my closing statement have a look at the text below, from
gizmodo. com/gadgets/what.s-wrong-with-windows-mobile/whats-wrong-with-windows-mobile-and-how-wm7-and-wm8-are-going-to-fix-it-333536.php
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Microsoft is working to fix the whole WM platform. Here's how:
Even when using a super sluggish WinMo phone, it's less an example of a manufacturer not meeting the minimum requirements for RAM, ROM and CPU power, and more a problem of software which has not been optimized to run on it. This is often the service provider's fault. For example, two phones with the same 400MHz processor can be totally different depending on how much optimization the provider decides to do. When you're using a slow phone, blame the provider.
On the same token, the Windows Mobile OS team actually does set a minimum hardware requirement for the "core" features of the OS to make sure the user experience is a good one, but the minimum-requirement bar may be set too low. When companies add apps on top of the core, things start to wobble. Product manager Derek Snyder told me that Microsoft will raise the bar for minimum requirements to a level where phones can be loaded with more software without slowing down the most basic of tasks (e.g. sliding open the AT&T Tilt from portrait to landscape mode).
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Noob here............
Please help me to decide wether to buy the HTC TC or not
I've seen it first hand on a sample unit of the retail shop I went to just a couple of days ago..........
What I did first is saw the graphic interface asap,I saw some lagging in the scroll down of the programs folder, I mean the icons keep on mssing out when I scroll the page up or down.............my question is..............is this very serious........or this is acceptable for a lot of TC users here by now,coz for me it does not bother me too muchas long as the icons dont appear for 5-10 seconds out......u know what i mean............its acceptable for me,dont know about a lot of people here???
Secondly,i tried the wmp in video tab,there are two videos at the time I tried the TC, one is with the stone and sandy video the other one is the flower and the bee,at first try,I watched the first one and its kinda choppy or theres a little bit stuttering with the video playback,but nevertheless still minor fault for me,but when I played the flower&bee video irs as fast as it could be........so what gives???
so what I am trying to ask you guys here,specially TC owners,is it worth it to buy the HTC TC even with this slight video inconsistence witht the device,from day to day use.........can someone here complain that its a total crappy " device"?
does the other things the TC do also as crappy as the ones in the video department?i.e. internet,camera,calling,GPS,etc.etc.?
So if anyone can help me just a little bit to shed some light and insights for me to buy the HTC TC or opt for other PPC........please your advise will sure help me very much
thanks a lot
Vinz
the TC is actually the better device you can buy , I've it from four mounth and the day per day use is a pleasure , if TC is a crap think about what the others devices are........
TC is just my 2nd Pocket PC. My first was Xda Mini. To tell the truth, I like my TC so much. Like the TouchFLO so much. Can't live without it!!!
thanks for the inputs guys.............
so you are saying the TC out of the box is quite ok and fine with you,even without tweaks and rom updates,just the standard shiped unit state, is really performing alright,of course aside from the video jerkiness of some videos and some lags in window scrolling...may it be internet explorer or just the normal windows...still the TC is up to par???how about complains of GPS too long to connect?complain of the window litteraly composing itself slowly as you go from one window to another,etc.etc............or are this the effect of some really defective units or bad ones........or thus this happen to each and everyone of the TC owners as well???if not then i think its just a case to case basis then?
sorry for a lot of questions here........but for a $700++ unit I am really trying to get all the bases covered here,so to speak........
nevertheless......
hhhhmmmm.........I guess I might consider buying it for now...........need to research some more or read some more..........
oh by the way.....for TC owners.........in the HTC E-club support,the one u need to register the imei number of the TC.......do they have updates for roms and softwares there to maximize the video jerkiness of the TC?or other downloadable good stuffs..........????
thanks a mil
Vinz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362188&highlight=crazy
Out of the box, the TC comes close to being "usable". However, it takes just a few registry hacks (see tips and tricks) to make it a great device. Sure, it still suffers from some video and scrolling lags, but for the most part it is a great device. As for video, I have had no issue playing video specifically encoded to play on WM devices.
Check out my first look over at Mobility Today.
http://mobilitytoday.com/articles/htc_touchcruise_impressions.html
oh thanks a lot Sir JNGOLD,that surely help me more on deciding whether to buy the TC or not,and a very nice review you got there.........
simple registry hacks?are they safer than flashing roms like i see here in the forums,I am really lost here when it comes to cooking,rom,flash,hard spl,radio roms,etc.etc.I kinda know a little about the registry hacks,like what we do in windows xp on our pc's same principle right?so for me I think some registry hacks won't harm the warranty of my device if ever I buy this thingy.I just don't think I am technical enough to do a flashing rom if ever.......
I just hope registry hacks for PPC are simple as the ones in the PC.......
well thanks a lot for your info,appreciate it very much
cheers
vinzi_76 said:
oh thanks a lot Sir JNGOLD,that surely help me more on deciding whether to buy the TC or not,and a very nice review you got there.........
simple registry hacks?are they safer than flashing roms like i see here in the forums,I am really lost here when it comes to cooking,rom,flash,hard spl,radio roms,etc.etc.I kinda know a little about the registry hacks,like what we do in windows xp on our pc's same principle right?so for me I think some registry hacks won't harm the warranty of my device if ever I buy this thingy.I just don't think I am technical enough to do a flashing rom if ever.......
I just hope registry hacks for PPC are simple as the ones in the PC.......
well thanks a lot for your info,appreciate it very much
cheers
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You don't have to flash roms or anything like that to enjoy the device. As for registry hacks, if you are familiar with exploring the registry on a PC, then performing them on a PPC will be a simple chore. You just need to get a registry editor like Resco Explorer (also a must-have file explorer), or even some freeware registry editors.
As for your warranty, no it won't affect it.
JN is a good person to listen to.
I work in the field and sell every phone. I left my Atom Life and Nokia N82 Black and Nokia N78 for the Touch Cruise today.
I could not be happier with every aspect. I installed Resco Explorer and I am good to go.
I chose this phone over anything else that is currently available.
Hey Vinzi76,
I have upgraded to the TC from using P3300 for a year, then using the Tytn II for 2 months.
By far, this is the best Windows Mobile phone in the world i would say! lovely styling, looks real classy! dont just go on the photos, they dont do it enough justice. you have to actually hold one to feel it! its just Superb!
I am in love with this now! before buying this, i too was contemplating wether to go for this or not, but after seeing this phone in real, i just couldnt resist!
You can check out the Tips and tricks thread on the Polaris upgrading forum for the reg hacks... also if you don't want to doi by hand then there's Schaps's Advanced config tool which is free to download and use...
Ok I just flashed my TP with Shep's latest ROM. With the new look and new system of WM 6.5,,, I really really feel like I'm a n00b.
I have been using PPC for 5 years now. I owned Toshiba Wm 2002 PPC at first, and then hp iPAQ. First time I flashed my PPC was back when I owned a himalaya. It was a nice device but it fell off my from my pocket and the LCD is broken. A friend o mine asked me to sold its Mobo to him.
I bought eTen M600. It is a helluva device. It excel every PPC I ever used. With its latest ROM I flashed, it become the most stable PPC ever exist. I still own this device. Too bad it can not be upgraded to WM 6. The manufacturer says that its chip is not compatible with WM 6. but I need to have a WM 6 ROM since I need push mail feature badly.
And then I bought HTC TP. Flashed it yesterday and there I was,,, wandering what should I do to customize my PPC. The honeycomb menu is confusing me since I can't gain access to classic folderview program list.
I am not going to whine, but surely I have to revolutionize my (classic, old school) mind in order to adapt this new OS.
How exactly would someone reply to a thread like this?
I just want to express my feeling
hahaha
I agree... the honeycomb is not too easy to work with... it would be great if you could drag and drop the buttons to the positions that you would like them at. I have to click "Move to Top" about 100 times to get it in the order that I wanted.......
If you dont like it you could try quickmenu (I think that is what is is called) it is an app floating around that replaces your menu... It was mentioned to me in another post of mine. Personally I really dont like the Titanium look but there are many skins around to customize it if you want to use it. I use PROven ROM 6.5 with rhodium. I like it alot. customizing it is up to you. you can install different apps and try them out...
Sorry for being long-winded... You have been around long enough to know most of this just thought I would shoot my 2 cents into the mix.
Thanks,
SoBBie
Hi evrybody I'm a new user in this forum and I'm in a conflict that hope you guys could resolve with your knowlegde. I'm actually writing this thread with my Palm treo 750, I hope that this is the right spot for this thread cause I've been reading a lot of post in many forums and websites but I've got my self just more confused of what to do. Ok I've just brought this smartphone for my distantance and pocket connectivity esigence, I was new in the smartphone world and I found my self mistaken about evrythings. I wish to traw this phone in the bin rightnow. It's making me crazy! Costantly freezing and doesn't do what i need it to do. I need a smartphone that could give me video call via 3g or 4g with VoIP and single VoIP call, flash support (for flash website) and java support (always for the same reason), make fb and msn chat streaming video and music, writing and making photos/videos. I hate when my phone freeze without any apparently reason or lag cause I'm listening music and using internet in the same moment, plus my battery life is about 3 hours. I've been looking in internet and at the end I've arrived to the point that I have to decide betwen Htc evo and Iphone 4. I've tried Iphone 3 and I didn't like it at all, I hate the soft keyboard and the OS doesn't support flash. I've never tried htc evo but I know that andoid is awesome and support flash (I don't kow about java) both have soft keyboard but both have even hard keyboars with witch i can upgrade my phone with (so keyborad will not gonna be a problem) both OS have a lot of free and pay apps they are very versatile. I'm not so confortable with the fingertouch os but I can buy stylus for both mobile. The screen and the camera in the evo are better then the Iphone, and android it's really easy to use (for what I've seen on m.youtube cause I can't see normal youtube) instead of the iphone OS (witch I've found a bit tricky). The iphone have no expandible memory card, (evo does) and (if I'm not wrong) you can tweak android a lot more (and with less problem) than the iphone. So... I've got a calderon of confiuson in my head right now and I need some clarification because maybe what I'm saying is not correct and for sure most of you guys know more than me about. Plus this is just correlated througth my esigence, cause at the end a smartphone it's strictly related of what you want to do with that. Cheers guy, I'm sorry for the large thread but I wanted to be the most possibly clear. I thanks already you guys for this wonderful forum (that I've been using a LOT) and for the one's of you that gonna gimme suggest about.