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Hi there,
My currently installed Rom was RUU-Prophet-G4-AKU2.2-2.20-2.47.21-Jester-r1.exe. (thank you jester for you good job)
Nevertheless, this ROM is in English and I wanted to downgrade to a French One before the selling of my device.
I have tried to install the downgrade kit detailed in this topic : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=267344
The first step went OK but while trying to make the secnd step, my qtek is blocked at the boot splash screen showing the Jesterz picture and red information about the SPL and so on on the upper left corner... without starting... The USB connexion is not detected so I can't do anything... While trying to install any ROM, the USB connection is not detected ang I get an error message...
Did I kill my phone ?
Please help ! Tell me that it's not dead....
Don't worry, its nowhere close to being dead. If you have superCid, then use the SD card image to restore in bootloader mode. However, if the Cid is locked, then you would need a utility that can unlock Cid without Activesync mode (coz in your case, you would not be able to get an Activesync connection). imei-check.co.uk has a utility ($38 i guess) that unlocks Cid in bootloader.--- else show it to a professional. (in my country, I would have to shell out around $20 to get such a problem fixed at a mobile repair shop)
illanz said:
... The USB connexion is not detected so I can't do anything... While trying to install any ROM, the USB connection is not detected ang I get an error message...
Did I kill my phone ?
Please help ! Tell me that it's not dead....
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Just take out the battery for about 10 minutes and re-insert. If it does not re-start, do a soft resert with the stylus and hopefully you should be fine
Hy,please help!
after downgrade, it doesnt work anymore.... i mean... i cant start the mobile!
after the downgrade i disable the USB data cable and now the mobile is dead... it doesnt starts from the ON/OFF Button and even if i connect the USB cable it makes nothing! No Led on... nothing! absolutly DEAD!!!
I have tried to put off the battery all night long with no result.. but I have achieved to reach the bootloader mode by pressing the camera button while soft reseting and keeping the camera button pushed...
OMG, I have been so scared ! ! !
Try this in order to reach the bootloader:
Hold down the camera button and reset the device. (Boot Loader Mode is: Press Camara + Soft Reset, then release soft reset and KEEP PRESSING camara button till appear the Boot Loader.)
it doesnt work
I seem to have a simular problem. this is my post in another topic. It seems to fit better here.
This is what I tired so far:....
I used the RUU_Prophet_2151327_21513121_021921_DOP_ASIA_WWE_S hip-NoVendorID and it often hangs and was slow with Push Email over GPRS.
I tried to find a way to downgrade but hadn't had time sofar. When I logged on XDA Developers Site I saw there was a new Image.
So I thought Great I dont need to find how to downgrade.
I don't know what G4 and G3 is so as everybody let's try the higest best one.
I uploaded the RUU-Prophet-G4-AKU3.3-Jester-b1
Wrong...
Now as previously stated I get to the multicolor screen with IPL 2.09 and the SPL 2.20..0001 on the screen and that's it.
I can get to the bootloader and load the same image again and get the same result.
I can load another image on and it loads to 80 Percent and says error [326] Invalid Command This NBF cannot be used with your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file.
If I try an older Version it tells me upgrad only
And when I try to upload the G3 version it tells me error[300] invalid upgrade tool. This upgrade utility canot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Upgrade utility.
Trying to use the nf.nbf or the G3 with the ROMUpdateUtility_NoID of the G4 doesn't work either.
If I would like to do the downgrade tool I need a Active Sync connection which I don't have.
I have no more thoughts. Please Help.
If you would have just read the forums better you would have known if your device is a G3 or a G4. (read this!).
Now it appears you have tried both for an update. Which may possibly have bricked your phone.
But... first things first. Can you get into the bootloader? (read wiki HERE on how to do that).
If you can still get into the bootloader then there is still a possibility for updating.
Try upgrading with the latest Qtek rom (note: this is an official rom, this one works for both G3 and G4! And since it's the latest you should be able to upgrade to this one).
Instructions quoted from another post of me:
You could try the 2.20 qtek rom which seems to be working well for quite some people (found here).
Although you have to make sure you read that thread good and use the ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe (found here ) to upgrade.
Update instructions:
1: With the qtek 2.20 rom you need to extract the zip and the exe file in the zip with WinRAR.
2: Then there is one folder called 'OutputFile' and a folder called 'RUU_TOOLS'.
Inside the RUU_TOOLS there is prophet and in that one WWE, when you go through them and in the WWE folder you see a bunch of files (readme.doc, enterbootloader.exe etc etc).
You need to copy ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe to the WWE folder with all the files. And you also need to copy the 'nk.nbf' file to the WWE folder (from the 'OutputFile' folder).
3: And then you need to put your phone in bootloader mode and run ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe to upgrade, which should work nicely then.
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This should give you a good enough idea of what to do. This should work (new rom combined with no NoID updater).
However, if it's impossible to get yourself into the bootloader your options of upgrading your device are getting smaller.
Downgrading of a complete rom is only possible on a CID unlocked G3 (when it's CID unlocked you would know! because you would have done that yourself) and not on a G4 device.
Flasing a G3 device with a G4 rom or G4 device with a G3 rom might possibly turn your phone into a brick. This can easily be avoided by reading the forums properly and know what you are doing.
If anything (even if it's a small thing) is not completely clear to you about upgrading/downgrading your device I'd recommend not doing so.
edit: oh yeah... if you have a G4 device (which you should know by now) you cannot downgrade from this rom (well, only via a payed online service). And when you have a G3 device you could try and CID unlock it (read wiki + forums) before you want to downgrade, or don't downgrade at all.
But whatever you do, don't try to downgrade it without doing any of those things because you'll get into trouble. (to put it down bluntly)
illanz said:
I have tried to put off the battery all night long with no result.. but I have achieved to reach the bootloader mode by pressing the camera button while soft reseting and keeping the camera button pushed...
OMG, I have been so scared ! ! !
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If you have reached the bootloader screen, just run my installer (or any official ROM) to get your phone working again.
My Prophet Died
I need help, to restore my Prophet, i upgrade wrong rom, i need will try the SD Backup, where can i see this process ?
Sorry my Inglish is too bad.
I've merged a couple of threads under this one, as they are all about the same problem (mostly)
Opening a new thread for the same problem isnt very useful
Hi RaptorRVL
Thank you very much for your patience in resuming all this for me.
I do try to read the forum but it isn't like a manual where you find the procedure stepby step. Like the G3 and G4 version I have newer come across until now. Sorry.
I tried the image you metioned and I have the result that at 80% it tells me error [326] Invalid Command This NBF cannot be used with your PDA Phone. Please check your NBF file
Any more thoughts?
As you seem to be an expert Can you let me know more about goldcard solution.
Cheers
Mick
From a readme I once found inside an update:
* ERROR [320~328] : INVALID COMMAND
These errors seldom occur. However, if one of these errors occur, it could not be recovered and the device had to be sent back to the customer service center. In this case, you have to flash a new ROM code.
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Doesn't sound too good really. Maybe someone else here on the forums know what to do with this error :/
You did use the ROMUpdateUtility_NoID.exe and not the normal updater right? Can remember someone getting a similar error when using the wrong updater, but I'm not sure about that though...
edit: try doing a search on the prophet forums for "INVALID COMMAND" maybe there is a helpful post in there somewhere...
THANKS!! I was worried b/c i had the same problem today. I've been looking for so many threads abt this problem. Thanks for ur help guys!
same problem
so i have the same problem. I want to downgrade and it break at 95% invalid file. But now XDA is still alive. I can`t go into the bootloader but i tried this file: RUU_Prophet_220734_2207114_024721_NVID.exe
and now my Prophet is still running again. Hope i can help you. Good luck.
peter paul
P.S. sorry for my english, but its good to learn it again
i konw that this is not a Universal forum but, can anyone help me? i got an error 112 Update Error, and i cant just flash anything, just stucks at 7% help please
More detail please...
Isaygarcia said:
i konw that this is not a Universal forum but, can anyone help me? i got an error 112 Update Error, and i cant just flash anything, just stucks at 7% help please
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Are you at your Tri-Color Screen? If so...tell me what the screen says...also what device do you have a Tilt or a TyTN II
well when i was trying to flash the rom it not recognized it, then i disconected it and then enter in bootloader, and when it was flashing just stucked at 7% and said "ERROR 112 :CE Rom Update Error"
and now i cant flash anything, just stucks at the same 7%
its a Universal i know that it isnt a forum for that device but in the universal one just nobody answers =( and i guess that some people here has 1 uni too
Theres a way to Flash the rom via SD card on the universa?? please help TT-TT
Isaygarcia said:
Theres a way to Flash the rom via SD card on the universa?? please help TT-TT
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What does your TRI-COLOR Screen say?
it says just usb and v1.0
it tries to flash and then stucks at 7%
new thing, when i try to flash an original rom, it says "error 100: model id error 22-N-50-N-N
please help!!
Can anyone help me please?? =(... i get an error 112, the rom just dont flash, it gets a 7% then the error appears, its an HTC Universal. i tried some things and even no results, theres a way to flash from SD? or it will be the same?? or maybe it got locked or something? or i just bricked it?? it enters to bootloader and it starts to flash and stuck on 7% TT-TT
Did you try a google search? I found this related to error 112...
Thanx, trying possible Fix!!
aahh it doesnt work... please can anyone help more??
tried to install the original stock rom and just wont work.. when the update reaches the CE update just stuck at 7% what can i do???
can i get some help? please =(
i searched on google, and i found that a some peolpe had this problem too, but, the same as me, nobody answers. its time to throw away my universal?
Not to sound mean, but you could try spamming the Universal forums instead of the Kaiser forums. I know there are a lot of people on the Kaiser forums, but we're Kaiser users. Odds are you'll get better information in the correct forums because the people there have the same hardware...just a thought.
close this thread plz
OK,
I have a Universal, and here are some ideas and questions:
1. Give the exact name of the ROM you are trying to use. Do not put "the original one," or "Fred's rom." Put the EXACT NAME of the ROM that you are upgrading to, and a link to it.
2. Stop. Take a breath. Throwing away your Universal will not solve the problem.
3. Give exact step by step description of what happened. Start from, "I was using my Universal with XXXXXXX ROM and the world was fine, and then I downloaded the ROM given in item #1 above. I then did (whatever you did). Continue on. End with "I am now stuch at 7%"
4. I noticed that you are from Mexico. I am from the USA, so some colloquilisms may not translate well. (Plus my Spanish is horrible). Let's just stick to the facts.
To be quite honest, your posts are not helpful, and they sound like a drowning man clutching an anvil (see last Sunday's Dilbert...). It would be more helpful if you could be more forthright and specific as to the issue, and give those wanting to help you as much detail as possible.
I am willing to help, but help me help you.
Hi,
Was changing the ROM on my Kaiser, using JUMPspl as I had got the white screen using Hardspl. During the upgrade got an error at about 18%, went through the recovery procedure only to get back to the Bootloader screen with the screen saying
SPL-1.93.0000
I think it should say something different here!
At the moment can only get the the tri-colour bootloader screen with usb at the bottom.
Please any help would be much appreaciated.
Thanks
If you are at the tri-color bootloader screen, reflash a ROM.
that's where the process starts at anyhow,the bootscreen.
But doesn't the SPL have to be either Hardspl or jumpSPL.
I have tried to do the rom update again but sticks on 0% and gives error 262
Alemaker said:
If you are at the tri-color bootloader screen, reflash a ROM.
that's where the process starts at anyhow,the bootscreen.
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Not advisable if he has the default SPL still though which by the number appearing at the tri col screen it appears to be the case.
Try doing a hard reset and see if it boots into the original ROM then at least you will find out if it is bricked or not, however, i'm not sure it will work based on the fact you got part way through in the first place.
Hold down the keys directly next to the Send and End (green and Red) Hold in the stylus and keep them all held untill you get a screen telling you to press the green (send) key.
Tried the hard reset, takes me back into the bootloader. Any other ideas?
Hmm... ok then.... you are pretty much looking at a very expensive paperweight at this moment in time then.
Look at this thread...it "may" (i'm not promising anything but it may point you in the right direction) help you out. Let us know how it goes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361612&highlight=bricked
cmcmill01 said:
Hi,
Was changing the ROM on my Kaiser, using JUMPspl as I had got the white screen using Hardspl. During the upgrade got an error at about 18%, went through the recovery procedure only to get back to the Bootloader screen with the screen saying
SPL-1.93.0000
I think it should say something different here!
At the moment can only get the the tri-colour bootloader screen with usb at the bottom.
Please any help would be much appreaciated.
Thanks
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Hate to joint the parade, but the exact same thing happened here - 18% now stuck at 1.93.0000
For anyone else reading this BEFORE flashing a new ROM please read, read and read again EVERYTHING related to flashing on this site, wikis and wherever else you can get info.
Another idea for you. Search around here for how to flash from an SD card that may solve the issue out for you. As previously noted though....READ READ READ and be 110% certain you understand what you are doing before you do anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963&highlight=stuck+bootloader
details some info for a Wizard, should it be the same for a Kaiser?
Will Mtty get me any further?
MTTY will at least give you a USB connection to the device it is worth a shot given your current situation.
There is hope!
I did a clean reboot of my PC and disabled my antivirus (avast) and was able to sucessfully reflash the new 1.62 rom (released from ATT site today).
Thanks will try the new 1.62 rom.
What commands can you use with MTTY?
tried the At&t rom gives me an error on the vendor id. Will try a HTC rom
I have tried multiple roms and they all give me the same error Error 294:Invalid Vender ID
Any ideas
Am starting to get worried because if the misses finds out that I have bricked the new phone, I am up to my neck i it.
If you are stuck in boot loader & would like some help via MSN Messenger, please PM me or look for me on MSM messenger at [email protected]. I will be available to help later this evening or tomorrow morning.
I have most of the files to fix these issues & can use MSN fileshare folders to help you.
Good chance that you can be up again in a matter of minutes
cmcmill01 said:
I have tried multiple roms and they all give me the same error Error 294:Invalid Vender ID
Any ideas
Am starting to get worried because if the misses finds out that I have bricked the new phone, I am up to my neck i it.
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Invalid Vendor I.D. is cuz it's locked.
Had the exact issue myself and found a ATT ROM that will boot. It saved me bigtime, so I saved it. It's in one of the posts on one of the threads but I have the actual ROM, it'll overide that lock.- PM me if ya need it.
Got the same solution, Holy S**t about to have a heart attack. Tried nearly ever ROM out there, it was the Asia one that got me going.
Lesson learned: make sure you Hardspl after jumpspl.
Thanks for all the help folks
Glad ya got it fixed. One quick question?
Is your original ROM ATT or HTC ?
It is a HTC ROM. Done My Hardspl and got Sleuth v3.0 on it already
Happy days
Ok here goes. Be nice, I'm new...
I have a Stellar in front of me (or Kaiser, TyTynII etc) which has managed to get itself into Boot Loader. I'm usually pretty good at getting these out of it but this one has me stumped, and I'm hoping someone may be able to give me some suggestions, or confirm my suspicions that it is kaput.
It's in Serial mode at the moment, showing
KAIS130
SPL-1.82.0000
CPLD-8
on the top of the screen.
So I plugged it into the computer and it nicely popped into USB mode which then let me flash it, using the file: RUU_Kaiser_O2_UK_1.82.206.1_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.32_Ship
This appeared to take, started the process, splash screen loaded, windows mobile loaded OK and for all intents and purposes was back at the factory reset (which is what I wanted). HOWEVER.....when I performed a soft reset it went back into Boot Loader and I'm now back at square one.
Any ideas? I can't install any homebrew ROMs on this, it HAS to be the standard ROM for reasons I'm not at liberty to post here (don't worry nothing illegal is going on, suffice to say, I shouldn't really be here!)
I have at least 2 others that are doing similar as well and would like to get these fixed also. All help/comments gratefully received and I apologise again if this is covered somewhere else.
It seems you have not done any SPL hard flashing yet.
Did you really read the Flashing for Noob sticky ? It's there .. first you need to do hard SPL, SIM/CID Unlock, then only you can change your ROM to anything.
Please go back and re-read.
Sorry. Will this do anything bad to the device, only I've never done anything like that before, I've just run the ROM flash file. I've never had to do anything like you suggested before. It needs to be put back to factory as it is going to get allocated to someone - which means I then have to install a clone over the top of this.....sorry if I'm being thick. I did read the document you suggested but that resulted in me getting more confused.
If this is not the right place for me to be, please feel free to close this thread and I'll keep looking elsewhere. Cheers.
Hi,
First of all: what do you want to do? Read this to clarify your intention
Take your time, read through the WIKI first.
After that, if you still want to flash, go to the Noob sticky.
If you don't have the passion, I'd suggest just use the phone as from factory. Reading the Wiki still will give you insight and many good tips/tricks without flashing.
Edit to addI apologize.
After re-reading again, it seems that what you're trying to do is reviving the dead Kaiser. From the SPL version, it's not yet 6.1. You can check out here to see any other official ROM matches, which what you currently use seemed to be correct.
Mod, please merge this with Kaiser stuck at Bootloader thread ..
Good luck.
Edit 2
It seems that when you did a soft reset (by pushing at the small hole using stylus?), the other two buttons (camera + power) are still pressed (or due to hardware, kept being pressed), thus resulting in boot loader displayed again?
Well that's why I couldn't work out why I couldn't get the ROM to stay.....this has never happened before! So yes, I am trying to revive a seemingly busted Kaiser. The customer handed it to me in Boot Loader mode. Usually running the RUU fixes this and we can then go about rebuilding it. However in this case it really doesn't want the factory ROM but I need it to! I can quite easily get it into USB mode and flash it by running the .exe file on my desktop - but then that's about all I can do. I can't give it back to the customer as the next time he performs a soft reset or switches it off, it'll be back in Boot Loader...ARGH!
Oh, and apology accepted!
And another thing, I just tried running the exe file again and got as far as the screen alignment and the poxy thing just locked....cue soft reset and back to Boot Loader. Me not happy.
Edit: A quick check of the Hardware and all the buttons appear to be OK - nothing looks like it's stuck down
If you want to take the looooong road, perhaps you can do flashing Hard SPL, unlock SIM/CID and then flashing any other ROM/Radio. Once you get a stable working device, you can flash back the OEM using this method
I'm not sure if this custom RUU can help: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334890
I haven't tried that, so it's just an idea for now.
Thread closed.
If you are still having problems with the bootloader check out my sticky.
If you need help with the flashing process check out mskip's sticky.
Only create a new thread for new issues that have not been discussed before.
Good luck
Thanks
Dave
OK, I too skim read (I read a lotta threads ).
PDA-Princess
I've sent you a PM.
Dave
Hello everybody. I'm completely noob, so please have a little patience with me. I have a Treo 750 in italian, and my final goal is to flash it to wm6-english. But for start, i don't know what Treo i have. I read about Cingular, At&t, etc...
mine sais TREO750-1.16-H3I, h-ware version A, firmware version 1.27.0b.00.
So whom am i talking to every day? Is there a special version of wm6 for my phone?
I thought i'l start from here. Any help would be appreciated...
Ok... noone? At least tell me how I can figure if my phone is unlocked or unbrenched...
Or could someone point me to a tutorial-thread of flashing the phone... from the beginning to the end.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah_WM6
Maybe you'll find something around here for the beginning, ...
Stupi ... it doesn't matter which Treo you have when it comes to flashing ROMs.
Just do the HardSPL first. That way you can pick the English language ROM of your choice to flash and it will work. You also get the benefit of unlocking the phone so it can be used on any GSM network.
Ideally, you'd be best to pick an English ROM provided by the same company that provides your cellular service, but it is not required. If you pick one from another cell company (or a hacked one) then you might have to enter your network settings manually, but that's the only difficult part.
Plenty of resources in this forum. Do some searching and you'll find everything you need. Good luck!
One question, thought... i could'n find the answer on the forum. I downloaded the unlocher, but it sais it only works with spl 1.11, at least... Mine is 0.22.
I tried then to update with RUU_Hermes_QTEK_WWE_2.11.255.1_102_6275_1.38.00.10_108_Ship.exe, but in the "current information about your pda phone" it didn' recognize my pda. I got affraid of bricking it.
So, it seems to me my first problem is updating the spl from 0.22 to 1.11. But I cannot find the software to do this..
Come on men, this has to be simple. I need some help here, please. I'm stuck up with wm5 over a week now...
so, the first thimg I must do, a hard-spl, that's what I understood. This can be done with ceetah_unlocker.
Ok, i launch the application, and it sais it can't start only with 1.11 spl. Mine is 0.22.0000
So the first thing i have to do is update this 0.22 spl to 1.11. Am I right?
But how?
Find one of the WM6.0 desktop updaters and try installing that. They don't require a HardSPL first.
Use one of the following:
AT&T English: Treo750_2_25_ATT_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Rest of World English: Treo750_2_23_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.zip
Three Australia: Treo750_2_19_H3E_DesktopUpdater.zip
Vodaphone UK English: Treo750_2_18_VFU_DesktopUpdater.zip
I don't have any links as they aren't hosted by Palm anymore. You should be able to find them by looking around the XDA Forum, or by searching the net and/or torrent sites for the filenames above.
thanks a lot, man, but I lost my pathience and i run the cheetah_unlocker... and I didn't brick it. So, now I'm ready for the next step...
please, if anyone pm me with a win 6...
ok, my spl is ok (1.4), i put the CHEEIMG.nbh on my sd card, and I run the step 1 of cheetah unlocker. And nothing happens.. still boots with wm5. I even did a hard reset.
Man, i'm goig crazy... what am i missing?
Please, someone could upload again one of those 4 files? I could find neither of them with goolge.
So, i found the updater, but it won't update my phone since it's in italian...
guess I'll need to do it the hard way. Please, can someone point me a post or a tutorial to update from 5.0 to 6?
stupi said:
So, i found the updater, but it won't update my phone since it's in italian...
guess I'll need to do it the hard way. Please, can someone point me a post or a tutorial to update from 5.0 to 6?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511763
I must be missing something. I made those steps, all went ok. But how the heck do i change the windows version? That's my goal, not to flash the spl.
I got a win 6 image (i hope, at least), copied the CHEEIMG.nbh file on the card (which is fat 32), and i repeated step one from cheetah-unlocker. As I hoped that after flashing the new windows would automatically install. But nothing happened, the old win was up and running.
Come on man, I'm not such a bad person after all to deserve this... I may have killed a few birds or cats in my childhood, but this is too much... you're killing me.. I'm stuck in this spagetti windows, and I can't upgrade to a normal english windows... what the heck am i missing?
well, if you haven't gotten it sorted by now, hope this helps: once you've hard spl'd, put the new image that you want to flash in the root on your card [<2gb, fat32 formatted] and then hold media and push reset. your phone will cycle into the bootloader [rgb screen], detect the image and ask if you want to flash.