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Linux on Magician

Hello people,
I am trying to understand which linux edition can work on the magician.
as seen on http://linuxtogo.org/ , there are 3 versions:
Xanadux - http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/
GPE2 - http://gpephone.linuxtogo.org/
angstrom - http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/
also, as i understand , the xanadux version is NOT fully finished.
has anyone tried them yet?
Roy

Yes, I tried http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ and it was nice!!
But some work still to do, like the bootloader part (for autoboot), suspend/resume and GSM.
GSM may have been fixed if it has been updated since (based on Linux PXA Mailing list)
You still need haret to boot on it, but a custom bootloader is possible, as it was done on ipaqs.
Works still to have be done before a full "usable" distribution, but it's on the way! I hope to help some weeks later (when my toolchain will be fully ready)...
PS: I had problems copying the filesystem to SDCARD because of USB2. Using USB1 it was working slow enough to copy all files to SDCard... Maybe it was a computer-only problem, but if you have same problem, try copying SLOWLY

I was looking ages for linux on my magician , but are there any tutorials for using those above linux roms ? I dont want to brick my magician , i dont have any other backup phone to use currently

It will just hard-reset your device after use.
You will load the Linux OS from the SDCard. Your device won't be damaged. It's safe!

What do I download ?
Hi,
I m on this forum after a long time. Sounds pretty good. Even I was hunting for linux for my Magician from ages. I checked out linuxtogo.org but didnt find which version to download and also the procedure. And also about booting from the SD card. Please halp me out...

question! can I install linux on my magician under windows XP? or I need a linux distro?

and second of all, how do I make to paritations on the sd card, I have read it, but I guess it was explained using a linux distro!

Read the installation instructions for the Universal

im new to this world and wanted to if it was better runnin linux or windows mobile?? can you run wm apps on da linux system and would it run properly?

oddball1 said:
and second of all, how do I make to partations on the sd card, I have read it, but I guess it was explained using a linux distro!
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http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/
It can now be done without a linux pc
i've tried it today. It a bit slow (on my pda) but it 's ok.
Give it try but do not forget to backup your data!

Rom flashing on a Mac

Has anyone ever tried to flash a rom or develop a rom that can be flashed by a Mac? I have Missing sync to sync my Tilt and to download .cabs and .exe's.
Works great by the way. I have flashed several roms from Windows XP on the " other side " of my Intel chip, so no problem there. Just wondering can it be done from the Mac side? And has anyone done it?
I have been using Macs and Apples for over 25 years ( started with Apple IIc) and never once had the urge to switch so comments from the "Apple Bashers" will mean nothing to me
Just curious.

no i'm not going bash apple but i haven't come across anything for mac and i believe the kaisercustomruu.exe can only be run only on windows

I have successfully flashed my Tilt using a Parallels install of XP Pro. Of course that requires an Intel Mac to accomplish...

NotATreoFan said:
I have successfully flashed my Tilt using a Parallels install of XP Pro. Of course that requires an Intel Mac to accomplish...
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I have flashed several roms using both Parallels and Bootcamp on the other side of my Intel/Mac chip and .exe file will not run on OS X but is it possible to create a rom using say a .dmg package instead of an .exe package?

The problem is far beyond the fact that the package is in exe the tools to actually flash the rom are windows only

I'd just flash from the MicroSD card.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158

AstainHellbring said:
The problem is far beyond the fact that the package is in exe the tools to actually flash the rom are windows only
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Obviously you can't just re-package under a different file extension. What " tools " are you refering to? Kitchen tools? Again just re-packaging. Leopard can run on an intel chip. Word, Excel, etc, can run natively on a Mac. Can you put together a rom or write one from scratch that can be downloaded natively to a Mac and then flashed to a Kaiser? Even theoretically?

You can use whatever OS you want... Just do what Peterfnet suggested... Use the SD card method... It's safer and easier.
Just follow the link provided by Peterfnet!

Rayan said:
You can use whatever OS you want... Just do what Peterfnet suggested... Use the SD card method... It's safer and easier.
Just follow the link provided by Peterfnet!
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It wasn't a "how do I flash a rom question " , I press a button and my screen twirls from OS X Leopard to Windows XP , I flash a new rom, press another button and my screen twirls back to Leopard and all my Mac apps. ( new Intel Chip for Mac)
The question was " what do the knowledgeable people here think? " Are there limitations of computer science that would prevent this or just limitations of available ground work that I could create?
Edit: I re-read this post and it sound kind of terse, I didn't meanit that way.
Thanks for your input Rayan

I see no reason why it would not be possible to flash a ROM natively inside Mac OS. But in order to do so, the flashing application written by HTC would need to be recoded to run on Mac.
If you extract the .exe file that is inside the rar file posted by the chefs here, you will see 5-10 files, one of which is the OS.nbh file. If you can write a program for Mac OS that can communicate with the Kaiser and call that file, then it would be possible. (DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a programmer, so it is a definite possibility that I could be talking out of my ass.)
Since flashing is not yet available to Linux users, then Mac is probably still a bit off.

peterfnet said:
I'd just flash from the MicroSD card.
Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336158
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best option all around

Well, ever since I discovered the SD Card method I don't flash it through the PC anymore... No more fears of freezing up, power failures and such!
In fact, I carry several "test" ROMS in my card just to install them on the go whenever I'm bored! LOL...

Here's an answer from someone who is paid to write software....
You're correct there is no technical reason that you can't flash your phone from a Mac OS.
Basically the whole process is a few commands & responses sent across the USB port and then the nbh image streamed via the port to the waiting device.
Here's the bind: Microsoft is well known for not working well with others. Why would they be motivated to provide non-MS OS the ability to flash "Windows Mobile"? It's kind of like iTunes being able to integrate with non-iPod MP3 players as well as it works with iPods (or so I've heard).

Thanks all , it looks like I have my next project. Thanks for all your input. peterfnet and Rayan thanks when HTC comes out with their new rom update and new driver package at the end of the month I'm going the card method for a change.

Flash Rom under Linux

I've looked through the forums but I can't find an answer to my question...
Can you flash roms to your phone from Linux? All the guides I see show how to do it using Windows.
Thanks!

I posted this earlier today. Might help you out some
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363032&page=2

The safest way would be to flash from your sdcard as wine does not support the latest activesync well.
You can also go for a virtual windows running on vmware for example, it wouldn't be a real "flash from linux" but it's stable enough.
However, you can sync with a pim like kontact or evolution and install cabs the way activesync does with SynCE.

fortunately, pof has made available everything you need for cooking/flashing for Linux:
http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/

mbarvian said:
fortunately, pof has made available everything you need for cooking/flashing for Linux:
http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/
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One things that can help you :
Your kaiser must be in tri-color mode (reset + camera) to flash with HTCFlasher.
This works very well

VMWare image of the source building environment

Hi all, I'm sorry if this has already been asked, i looked for it using Google and the search forum option and while i found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782&page=145, (using this: http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...ource&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8) it didnt really help me because it's not exactly what i'm looking for
I want to be able to change some bits of code on the os and see how that affects the device (for example, i'd like to change the order of options in the menus and stuff like that) just to get to know the development environment better.
however, I'm using Microsoft windows (vista x64) and cannot build it on this env (according to: http://source.android.com/download --> "To build the Android source files, you will need to use Linux or Mac OS. Building under Windows is not currently supported.").
therefore i was wondering, did anybody make a vmware image that is ready to use that contains the environment and the sources that will only need a source update and can be built immediately after for noobs like me?
I'm sure I'm not the only one running a windows machine and so i guess somebody has already made one for himself, I'm asking if you could maybe share it somehow...
Thanks
E.
Clarification: I'm not talking about the SDK building but rather the actual OS source code so that i can re-build and put on my phone
note: tried this: http://www.koushikdutta.com/2008/12/building-android-source-and-deploying.html, didn't work, but it gives an idea of what I'm looking for...

did u try running a virtualbox with linux? or maybe a macOS off a usb?

vista x64
for windows, have you tried cygwin?

I've installed it just fine in ubuntu in vmware.
I'd about 8 gb. quite hard to make an image out of it.

[q] request linux support

Android being linux based i have to look out for windows for tweaking the phone.
For example
1. Android language project is windows based
2.real apk leecher also windows based
3. Root with bin4ry also windows based
4. Sp tools also WINDOWS based .
Please make Linux based programs in Gui so that we don't have to switch to windows for a few programs for operating on android which is a Linux kernel.
I find it very tedious.
Please make it asap so that we can keep with Ubuntu only.
Cwm recovery also we should be able to flash it from Ubuntu.
Using wine doesnt perfectly work on usb interface and does not give required results.
Please do this urgently.
Make it all in Linux why depending on windows whats the point.

While it would be great to get more Linux support you have to realize most people have Windows and are not going to install Linux just to take advantage of these tools. Also most developers are most familiar with Windows and even if they do have the Linux knowledge they probably don't have the time to develop and test on two platforms.
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xander555 said:
Android being linux based i have to look out for windows for tweaking the phone.
For example
1. Android language project is windows based
2.real apk leecher also windows based
3. Root with bin4ry also windows based
4. Sp tools also WINDOWS based .
Please make Linux based programs in Gui so that we don't have to switch to windows for a few programs for operating on android which is a Linux kernel.
I find it very tedious.
Please make it asap so that we can keep with Ubuntu only.
Cwm recovery also we should be able to flash it from Ubuntu.
Using wine doesnt perfectly work on usb interface and does not give required results.
Please do this urgently.
Make it all in Linux why depending on windows whats the point.
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By all means let us know when you have done it.