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I personally see no point in it, as the mail app covers all the basis, and the gmail app doesnt come with a widget...but I have a google branded phone, and could completely understand why I couldnt delete it (like how the IM app and the market are somehow closely related, and the deletion of one screws the other over) as it may cause issues.
On another note, is there a list somewhere that has all the apps safe to remove?
Damage V1
Rming with Root Explorer
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After following the advice of a responder to my original question, I moved the gmail.apk and gmailprovider.apk to my sd card, then removed them completely from system/app. I have rebooted, found no errors (downloaded an app from the market as a test, and also emailed myself) and most importantly, for the first time, have not had to resign into my google account upon reboot. Dont know if it was luck or wat, but Ive had to resign in everytimw (not a big de, but other then the intermitent lights, its the only bug Ive found with dcv1)
Im sure most of you are satisfied with the gmail app, but I personally prefer the mail app, as you can link more than one account and it has the widget. Ive noticed no delay in recieving or sending or any error outside of the mail/gmail app. Thought you all might be interested in knowing my findings
Dang it, search is broken AGAIN.....
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I personally see no point in it, as the mail app covers all the basis, and the gmail app doesnt come with a widget...but I have a google branded phone, and could completely understand why I couldnt delete it (like how the IM app and the market are somehow closely related, and the deletion of one screws the other over) as it may cause issues.
On another note, is there a list somewhere that has all the apps safe to remove?
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Rming with Root Explorer
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Search is your friend........
You can ADB into the phone and manually remove it, I believe.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581635&highlight=remove+gmail
obannvi said:
Dang it, search is broken AGAIN.....
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LOL Chars!!
obannvi said:
Dang it, search is broken AGAIN.....
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All 17 pages of 'Apps Safe To Remove' talked nothing of gmail, other than how rming other apps effected Gmail; the search function brought up no answers, unless I missed something (which is very possible )
Id appreciate your help.
Try moving it and not completely removing it? Then if the phone crashes/wont work, you can move it back to it's proper location through recovery..?
I've never wanted to remove the stock gmail app, since the standard app doesn't requires checking of email, whereas the gmail app is a push email (I think?) I get notifications of gmail faster on my phone than I do on my PC.
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You can ADB into the phone and manually remove it, I believe
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Thanks for the speedy response.
I searched that thread, and every other one that came one while searching "remove gmail" but found nothing of use. I am fully aware of how to remove it, Im simply curious as to whether or not its SAFE to remove.
Thanks again
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Try moving it and not completely removing it? Then if the phone crashes/wont work, you can move it back to it's proper location through recovery..?
I've never wanted to remove the stock gmail app, since the standard app doesn't requires checking of email, whereas the gmail app is a push email (I think?) I get notifications of gmail faster on my phone than I do on my PC.
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Thanks so much for the advice Sirchuk, you have actually helped in improving my Hero experience.
Curious; whats push mail?
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Thanks so much for the advice Sirchuk, you have actually helped in improving my Hero experience.
Curious; whats push mail?
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The email is delivered to your phone real time, as opposed to polling on a chedule (i.e. every 30 minutes).
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Thanks so much for the advice Sirchuk, you have actually helped in improving my Hero experience.
Curious; whats push mail?
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The gmail servers notify your phone when you have a new email, instead of the phone polling the servers for new email (that is pull)
Saves battery life as your phone can sit idle and wait for google servers to tell it to get mail.
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The gmail servers notify your phone when you have a new email, instead of the phone polling the servers for new email (that is pull)
Saves battery life as your phone can sit idle and wait for google servers to tell it to get mail.
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My battery life has been amazing since flashing DCV1. Ill definatly have to keep an eyye on that. Thanks for the response!
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My battery life has been amazing since flashing DCV1. Ill definatly have to keep an eyye on that. Thanks for the response!
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Have you guys tried using Exchange ActiveSync in the mail app for Gmail, this will make it push rather then pull. I believe you need to use m.google.com as the server, and change the frequency to "as items arrive".
Is the sign in thing really annoying? it only happens when you go to airplane mode or reboot. I dont think its a big deal it dont effects me at least
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Is the sign in thing really annoying? it only happens when you go to airplane mode or reboot. I dont think its a big deal it dont effects me at least
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In my edit I stated it wasnt a big deal. Just a work around, to one of the few bugs left in dcV1.
ljmeli said:
Have you guys tried using Exchange ActiveSync in the mail app for Gmail, this will make it push rather then pull. I believe you need to use m.google.com as the server, and change the frequency to "as items arrive".
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Perfection! I thank you most kindly.
Now all we need is to get the trackball working, and dcv1 will be TRUELY 100%.
Yes, the trackball and leds are a big deal...to me
still getting the sign in error
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In my edit I stated it wasnt a big deal. Just a work around, to one of the few bugs left in dcV1.
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Just a heads up, I still get the sign in error after I removed both apk's. I got it after rebooting and putting the phone into airplane mode.
Good attempt at trying to resolve the issue though!
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Perfection! I thank you most kindly.
Now all we need is to get the trackball working, and dcv1 will be TRUELY 100%.
Yes, the trackball and leds are a big deal...to me
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Then you might just be screwed. Current speculation is that the trackball thing is intentional. If you check...whenever you get e-mail or a text message the trackball lights up. This behavior is quite possibly intended and a possible change for the 'official' 2.1 ROMs.
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Just a heads up, I still get the sign in error after I removed both apk's. I got it after rebooting and putting the phone into airplane mode.
Good attempt at trying to resolve the issue though!
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I can confirm that this is not a fix. I've had gmail deleted for weeks now (using k9 for pushing work and personal email) and I've still been getting the sign-in notification.
I was also thinking you need that for the market.
You know how tethering with PDANet allows you to use the sms client on your computer? Is there a similar app that connects via wifi/3g? When I'm at work I hate typing on that tiny-ass keyboard when I'm sitting at a full-size computer.
I use Google Voice when possible but I don't want my friends to need two phone numbers for me. I suppose I could just use GV as the primary...
Any ideas?
Look for smshare. I just found it three days ago, and it's awesome!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867957
ladidaaa said:
Look for smshare. I just found it three days ago, and it's awesome!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867957
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That looks pretty neat. No usb cable required?
No, no cables required.
The Data exchange is done over 2G or 3G Network.
But SMS isn't much data, so it won't hurt your Data limit.
Try http://www.bloove.com
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Try http://www.bloove.com
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Interesting... will check it out.
I have also tried bloove now, but i must say it is very limited if you use the free version.
No auto-Sync feature for the android app: You always have to start the app on your phone that the sms are sent. And also SMS are not stored if you have edited them on the webinteface.
The App has to be opened on your phone while you send the sms on the webinteface.
Smshare has all these features, but it's main problem is that the Addon is only available for Chrome right now, and until now it is not possible to send SMS directly from smshare's Webinterface. But according to smshares blog it will "soon" be possible to send SMS also through the webinterface. So i hope tis problem will be solved soon.
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I have also tried bloove now, but i must say it is very limited if you use the free version.
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Yup, sometimes we need to eat so we need money, simple.
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And also SMS are not stored if you have edited them on the webinteface.
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That's very strange, in what folder did you try to edit sms and it's not stored?
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The App has to be opened on your phone while you send the sms on the webinteface.
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Yes, that is how things are working, we're going to add "always running" option in future versions.
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Yup, sometimes we need to eat so we need money, simple.
That's very strange, in what folder did you try to edit sms and it's not stored?
Yes, that is how things are working, we're going to add "always running" option in future versions.
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Didn't realize we had a devs attention with this thread. Will definitely try. Thanks!
This thread is to track my dealing with HTC and their service department over the current Twitter Tab (HTC Peep) outage. Please don't PM me about it, I'll just make fun of you for not reading and searching.
The current outage has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the Peep security updates published back in February. For information on the past update, please refer to this post.
I am reaching out to everyone who uses this application to bug the crap out of HTC until they fix this problem. Please read this post all the way through so you can contact them with a bit of information. I originally tried to ask about it as simply as possible, but only got an idiotic response. The communication log will be posted in the next post.
Basically, for anyone experiencing issues with Peep, simply read the post I linked to and the following post. This will give you enough information to be able to contact HTC and make some noise. If you do contact them, please use proper grammar and be respectful. Typing like a pissed off high school girl (no offense to pissed off high school girls) will get us no where.
A brief history of Peep outagesSince the very beginning of HTC Sense, most experienced users have known about Peep's security flaws and have either decided to live with it, figuring that it wasn't very important to them, or simply used another client for Twitter. The problem is that Peep was accessing the Twitter API through use of unencrypted HTTP headers which exposed your username and password to anyone who might be eavesdropping on the connection via cellular data IP or WiFi.
Twitter experienced some headlines last summer where several celebrity and high profile accounts were compromised due to lax security features. This caused them to begin shifting their API towards a more secure end. In doing this, they notified the developers of Twitter clients of this shift and to update their applications accordingly. HTC was one of the few who did not update their applications.
Late last year, HTC's Peep application experienced some outages. HTC, instead of repairing the problem, petitioned Twitter about the outage and, after several weeks, the functionality of Peep was restored through an exception made in Twitter's API. This was the easiest solution for HTC, but the worst solution for the customers, since it still left the user's data exposed to risk and was only a temporary solution.
Then, sometime in late January/early February, the members of Tadong blog released their security information to the general public after trying for months to get HTC to fix the security flaw in Peep as outlined above. Subsequent to the release of the information, HTC finally release the security updates for Peep that corrected half of the problem. The initial log in attempt now used OAuth to establish a secure connection over HTTPS on TCP port 443. This fixed the update Twitter rolled out shortly after where some users got the "Forbidden" errors when trying to use the tab. It did not fix the remainder of the session where Peep would request data from Twitter. The rest of the time, Peep requested data over unencrypted HTTP basic headers just as it always had. This, as most of you know, caused problems with the most recent update to Twitter's API.
Twitter rolled out an update again at the end of April that broke the Peep client again. The problem wasn't really Twitter, though. Twitter has now disallowed any new requests to access it through unencrypted channels. This, of course, blocks Peep again. The sad thing now is that this would not be a problem if HTC had simply fixed the problem last year during the first outage or even produced a secure client in the first place.
This brings us to the present. I have contacted HTC with all the information I could gather about this problem. The conversation is listed in the next post. I encourage everyone reading this to learn a bit here and contact HTC via their support page. Any serial number should work as long in the contact form as it matches the correct device. The only Rhodiums to receive the Sense update were the Euro and AT&T ones, as far as I know. Leos ship with it, and I'm sure there were other devices that got Sense updates as well, such as the Photon and Topaz. I'm not up to speed on the models of those devices that got Sense, though. If you contact them, please post in here your conversations. If you need help crafting a proper response to the HTC support techs, please PM me. I will try to assist as best I can.
Communication log
Log between myself and HTC reps, Douglas and Danielle.
Me said:
I have both a Tilt2 and a HD2. Both are using HTC Sense as the primary GUI. On both of them, the Twitter Tab (HTC Peep) no longer works. I put in the right username and password and it always tells me that it is the wrong username or password. I have done this multiple times, and am absolutely certain that I am typing it in correctly.
After searching around for a while, it appears that I am not the only one to have this problem. I also have the HTC Peep security update installed on both of the devices, but it does not work with or without that fix.
Is HTC planning to roll out an update to fix this problem?
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HTC Douglas said:
understand you are unable to log in to Twitter even with the Peep security update. The link you need to download the update for is different for your two devices.
Use this first link for your Touch Pro 2:
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=1085&news_id=874
And this link for your HD2:
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportViewNews.aspx?dl_id=1086&news_id=865
If this does not work you may need to restore your devices to factory settings and re-apply the appropriate hotfix after backing up your information, for example with ActiveSync or the Windows Mobile Device Center to sync your information with Outlook.
Sync software is available at: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/apps/65-downloads.aspx
You can back up your information using ActiveSync or the Windows Mobile Device Center located at the following URL:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/apps/65-downloads.aspx
Essentially, plug your phone into the PC after installing the software and select Activesync as your connection type. Your computer will walk you through backing up your data.
A factory data reset will clear all data from the phone's internal memory and restore the device to manufacturer defaults. Information on your storage card will be kept. To reset the phone press start>settings>(menu>all settings)>system>clear data and confirm.
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Me said:
I just mentioned that I installed the security update already, and the response I got was to install the security update? What kind of answer is that? Even if the line of thinking was that I perhaps installed the wrong update, how would that even be possible considering the updates require the installation to pass software version checks before installing? I was trying to make this as simple as possible, but considering the response I received, it is apparent I will be unable to do this.
The problem is that the Peep Security Update did not fix the problem all the way. Originally, the Twitter account information was sent via unencrypted http headers upon login which reveal both the username and password to anyone who happens to be eavesdropping on the connection, whether it is by cellular data or wifi. Also, when sending tweets or receiving them, their is a continuous authenticate request sent which exposes the username and password again in the same manner.
The security update is not a 100% fix. After installing the update, it seems that while the initial session is now being sent over https using TCP port 443 (sending against the api.twitter.com domain), during the rest of the session, Peep switches back to HTTP basic. This still leaves the whole session after the initial login vulnerable to hijacking based on the Twitter's session ID through cookies. Because this was not fixed properly in the first place, Twitter has blocked the application from accessing its api. Twitter has increased its security measures and disallowed new authenticate requests from unsecured clients. So any device that is currently authenticated in Peep will not be affected, but once the user logs out of Twitter, does a hard reset, or a ROM upgrade, the Oauth token will be invalidated or removed and will not allow Peep to log back in.
This is the position I am currently in, along with hundreds other users. It affects every user on HTC Sense as it will break the Peep client as soon as they log out. Since these devices are still being sold as brand new, HTC should still be providing support for them, since it is the HTC software that is not functioning as intended. Now, what is HTC prepared to do for every single Sense user? All that needs to be done is to FINALLY secure the Peep client and force it to use HTTPS instead of basic HTTP. The Twitter api will refuse all new auth requests that are unencrypted.
I have attached an eavesdrop of the timeline update request that is sent when the client refreshes. Notice that the username and password are UNENCRYPTED and shown in plain text. One more time I will ask what HTC is prepared to do to solve this problem. Please don't give me a cookie cutter response again. Thank you for your time.
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The previously mentioned log is attached to this post.
HTC Douglas said:
Thank you for your reply. If you have performed the security update after performing a factory data reset please let me know and I can escalate this issue within HTC.
These are standard troubleshooting steps required to identify an issue and would be required before Escalations can review the case. I appreciate the additional data and log you included, as well.
Also so that I can escalate this issue, please reply with the following information:
Mobile device number:
Alternate contact number
Time zone:
Preferred contact time:
Current ROM version: (Start>Settings>about phone>software information on the HD2)
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Me said:
As I mentioned, this is problem is persistent through hard resets and ROM updates. Anytime you log out or clear the Peep auth token in any way, it will not allow any further logins due to the (lack of) security of Peep. The only way around this currently is to back up the registry data associated with the Peep client in [HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAccountManager] as well as the entire folder [\Temp\TwitEng]. If these are imported into a new flash of a ROM update or after a hard reset, the client will function again, as no new initial auth request will be needed. This still does not fix the problem of the client exposing usernames and passwords during EVERY update attempt. Nor does it allow less savvy users to use the Tab after having to hard reset or update the ROM.
The Tilt 2 is running ROM version 2.10.502.4.
The HD2 is running ROM version 3.14.531.1.
You may contact me via e-mail (email removed). I prefer not to be called.
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HTC Douglas said:
Thank you for your reply. I have escalated the issue for further review. An escalations agent will reach out to you soon. Escalations contacts are performed in the order they are received so it may take a few days for us to review this information and get in touch with you.
Thank you for the detailed information about your analysis.
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HTC Danielle said:
The previous agent has forwarded your email request to the next level for further review. The escalations team will be getting back with you as soon as they have any information for you. I hope you have a safe holiday weekend.
If you need any further assistance, you are welcome to send another inquiry through the HTC website by going through the Support page (http://www.htc.com/us/support) then tapping ‘send us an email’. You should input all the necessary information requested on the page.
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I will be awaiting further reply. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
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HTC Travis said:
Thank you for provding us information about the shortcomings of our PEEP security update. I have verified that you are correct and have alerted our corporate office of this fact. They are researching the root cause in terms of the programming and will look into providing an update.
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Me said:
This is great news. I'm having trouble seeing that I'm the first person to bring this to HTC's attention, though, seeing as this has been an issue for right about a month now. I figured someone else would have reported the problem before me. Please do keep me informed as this progresses. It should be as simple as forcing Peep to use secure HTTPS over TCP port 443 during the session as it does during the login procedure that was updated in February. Currently, it uses OAuth over HTTPS to establish the initial login, but switches back to HTTP basic for the remainder of the session. This allows the username and password to be seen in plain text every time the application requests an update from the Twitter API. Using this method also has another side effect. Twitter updated its security measures to disallow unencrypted requests. This means that Peep is no longer able to establish a connection since it moves from OAuth over HTTPS to HTTP basic during the initial session. If I can be of any other assistance, please let me know. I look forward to updates in this matter.
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HTC Travis said:
You are not the first person to tell us they are having a problem with Twitter. You are the first person to provide us with this level of information and we thank you for that. Please reply to this email in a few days and someone should be able to give you more information.
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I see. I'm just doing what I can to benefit the dwindling Windows Mobile community. I will check back later this week. Thank you for the updated information.
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Retain Twitter Tab/Peep functionality through a flash or hard reset
Before you ask, I don't have first hand experience with this. This is based on successful attempts by other members of the community.
This only works if the Twitter Tab/Peep currently still work for you. If it doesn't, then you are out of luck, and this will not work for you.
To retain the functionality of the Peep client through a flash of a new ROM or a hard reset, you will need to follow the steps listed below.
1. Stop Sense and soft reset to make sure that Sense doesn't continue altering information while you are backing up data.
2. Back up the entire key of "HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAccountManager." You really only need the Twitter strings, but it's easier to just back up the whole thing.
3. Backup the entire folder of \Temp\TwitEng. This is where the Twitter authentication token is stored.
4. Flash the new ROM or hard reset, whichever you need to do.
5. Once the new ROM is stable and working, stop Sense and soft reset.
6. Restore the registry key and backed up directory.
7. Soft reset and then enable Sense. The Twitter tab should now continue working for you without any trouble.
EDIT: JVH3 made a pair of posts about this HERE and HERE. The second one talks about authenticating another device with the backed up data.
Great initiative ! I'm very curious to hear about HTC's reception of the issue, and see if they will take the initiative to fix it...or imagine a way to justify how not doing it
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Great initiative ! I'm very curious to hear about HTC's reception of the issue, and see if they will take the initiative to fix it...or imagine a way to justify how not doing it
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Please use this thread to contact HTC about the problem. Please don't link them to this thread, though. I started this with the intention that others would use the information I have gathered on the issue to contact HTC in an informed manner to get it resolved.
Basically, the more noise is made on this issue, the better chance there will be to have it fixed.
HOLY $ |-| 1 +, it worked!
Ok, so I received official word that Peep is being looked into by HTC. I would still encourage anyone reading this to contact them with the information I have provided here. The squeaky wheel gets the grease, as they say.
HTC Travis said:
Thank you for provding us information about the shortcomings of our PEEP security update. I have verified that you are correct and have alerted our corporate office of this fact. They are researching the root cause in terms of the programming and will look into providing an update.
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Me said:
This is great news. I'm having trouble seeing that I'm the first person to bring this to HTC's attention, though, seeing as this has been an issue for right about a month now. I figured someone else would have reported the problem before me. Please do keep me informed as this progresses. It should be as simple as forcing Peep to use secure HTTPS over TCP port 443 during the session as it does during the login procedure that was updated in February. Currently, it uses OAuth over HTTPS to establish the initial login, but switches back to HTTP basic for the remainder of the session. This allows the username and password to be seen in plain text every time the application requests an update from the Twitter API. Using this method also has another side effect. Twitter updated its security measures to disallow unencrypted requests. This means that Peep is no longer able to establish a connection since it moves from OAuth over HTTPS to HTTP basic during the initial session. If I can be of any other assistance, please let me know. I look forward to updates in this matter.
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HTC Travis said:
You are not the first person to tell us they are having a problem with Twitter. You are the first person to provide us with this level of information and we thank you for that. Please reply to this email in a few days and someone should be able to give you more information.
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I see. I'm just doing what I can to benefit the dwindling Windows Mobile community. I will check back later this week. Thank you for the updated information.
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Before you ask, I don't have first hand experience with this. This is based on successful attempts by other members of the community.
This only works if the Twitter Tab/Peep currently still work for you. If it doesn't, then you are out of luck, and this will not work for you.
To retain the functionality of the Peep client through a flash of a new ROM or a hard reset, you will need to follow the steps listed below.
1. Stop Sense and soft reset to make sure that Sense doesn't continue altering information while you are backing up data.
2. Back up the entire key of "HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAccountManager." You really only need the Twitter strings, but it's easier to just back up the whole thing.
3. Backup the entire folder of \Temp\TwitEng. This is where the Twitter authentication token is stored.
4. Flash the new ROM or hard reset, whichever you need to do.
5. Once the new ROM is stable and working, stop Sense and soft reset.
6. Restore the registry key and backed up directory.
7. Soft reset and then enable Sense. The Twitter tab should now continue working for you without any trouble.
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Looks alot like what I posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13790743&postcount=34951
Your thread is a better place for it though.
I also posted this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13520319&postcount=34836
Which is helpful if you have another device that still is authenticated with the Twitter tab and transfering the info to another device.
Real glad you got things going with HTC to finally work on this.
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Looks alot like what I posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13790743&postcount=34951
Your thread is a better place for it though.
I also posted this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13520319&postcount=34836
Which is helpful if you have another device that still is authenticated with the Twitter tab and transfering the info to another device.
Real glad you got things going with HTC to finally work on this.
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Well, I already knew the key and file that needed to back up, but I forgot where I saw the bit about turning on and off Sense. Thanks. I'll add some credit for you.
Yea, there's a bit more that I can't post due to personal or sensitive information, but it's looking good so far. I'll keep updating this as more info rolls in. I'm hoping that other people contact them about it as well.
Very good afford cajunflavoredbob .
Lets hope Peep developer team in HTC are getting ready with new client
Thanks.
prabhat said:
Very good afford cajunflavoredbob .
Lets hope Peep developer team in HTC are getting ready with new client
Thanks.
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I have a bit more to update tonight. They have sent the information onward and are working on a fix right now. No ETA was given, however.
Ive just suffered this problem today - logged out of peep and now i cant get back in again. As i didnt know about this issue, obviously dont have any backup! Thanks for pursuing this!
This has been my ongoing encounter with HTC Support for the Touch HD / Blackstone
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Ok, could you keep me notifed if the touch HD will get the update or not ?
Thanks 2011/06/08 18:04:45
Bjorn [EU team] Close Pending I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying that at this point I can not guarantee taht the touch HD will get such an update as it is an older device. I'm not saying it won't happen, I'm just saying that at this point I can not guarantee taht the touch HD will get such an update as it is an older device. 2011/06/08 16:15:10
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Simon Lee Reply How come thou ? If theres no fix then that might meen i will have to buy a new phone, and am quite happy with the Touch HD ?
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2011/06/08 10:57:55 Bjorn
[EU team] Close Pending I can not guarantee That a fix will be released for the Touch HD when te issue is resolved. I can not guarantee That a fix will be released for the Touch HD when te issue is resolved.
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2011/06/08 07:59:10 Simon Lee Reply
Yeah, i realise its an Unoffical ROM, but thats beside the point, When tyou fix the HTC peep, will the Touch HD get a Upgrade for 6.1 with the HTC Peep fix?
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2011/06/07 17:15:23 Bjorn [EU team]
Close Pending As your device is runnig an unaproved ROM we are unable to support it and can not guarantee that any applications will work properly. We have how ever had reports regarding this and are looking in to it on our approved ROM's, As your device is runnig an unaproved ROM we are unable to support it and can not guarantee that any applications will work properly. We have how ever had reports regarding this and are looking in to it on our approved ROM's,
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2011/06/07 16:14:50
spikeyl said:
Ive just suffered this problem today - logged out of peep and now i cant get back in again. As i didnt know about this issue, obviously dont have any backup! Thanks for pursuing this!
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Theres some kind of solution floating around here somewere
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you could try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=708770
Thanks - i found this earlier and tried all these but none of them work! Having read through the thread above I can see why though - it is related to the security authentication issue, so currently no fix.
spikeyl said:
Thanks - i found this earlier and tried all these but none of them work! Having read through the thread above I can see why though - it is related to the security authentication issue, so currently no fix.
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Yeah, and HTC are planning on bring out a fix, but wont say which devices, will get the supported fix,
Simon_WM said:
Yeah, and HTC are planning on bring out a fix, but wont say which devices, will get the supported fix,
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The only devices that will get the fix are the ones that have official Sense 2.5 ROMs. There are only four of them.
1. Leo
2. Rhodium
3. Photon
4. Topaz
My recent communications with HTC contain personal information regarding the fix. It is being worked on, but there is no current ETA that they have provided. I am keeping in touch with them and working with HTC to resolve the problem. I'll update this thread as more information is provided to me.
EDIT: Please don't post here about possible fixes. There is no fix for this error. The problem is with Peep and has nothing to do with Twitter. Logging in and out of Twitter on the desktop will have no bearing on the Peep application. No applications are allowed to access Twitter's API though unsecured connections, thus Peep is excluded.
My Twitter also stopped working sometime last week, but I don't ever remember logging out. However when I scrolled past the peep tab on my HD2 this morning it read "no tweets" instead of the click to login screen (or whatever it said). I clicked the screen and now have tweets going back to sometime yesterday. Is this any way connected?
jools5431 said:
My Twitter also stopped working sometime last week, but I don't ever remember logging out. However when I scrolled past the peep tab on my HD2 this morning it read "no tweets" instead of the click to login screen (or whatever it said). I clicked the screen and now have tweets going back to sometime yesterday. Is this any way connected?
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This is unrelated if you did not log out, as far as we know. Twitter isn't yet blocking anyone from their API who already has a connection. They are only refusing new attempts.
HTC knows the problem, is working on it, but still no ETA
Just to add my story:
Originally Posted by Me
After flashing a new row to my HTC HD Mini, HTC Peep cannot sync with Twitter anymore.
I have flashed this rom: http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=314&cat=2&dl_id=980
And updated it with this update: http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=314&cat=0&dl_id=1085
When I enter my account and password, HTC Peep tells me: "You entered an incorrect username or password".
The account and password are OK, since I can use them via the web and other Twitter-applications.
I tried revoking HTC Peep as a Twitter-application and then re-adding HTC Peep.
But the message is still "You entered an incorrect username or password".
From an old backup I have retrieved registry settings at HKLM\Software\HTC\HTCAccountManager and the directory at \Temp\TwitEng.
After putting these settings back into the new rom I get a message: "The account was forbidden to access the twitter server!"
This is logically because I revoked HTC Peep as a Twitter-application at the Twitter website.
So, the HTC Peep client does not recreate the connection to Twitter.
Please provide a solution or update so that the HTC Peep client will work again.
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Originally Posted by HTC
Thank you for contacting HTC Support.
The problems you are experiencing is because of a change in the Twitter API's that Peep has not yet adapted to.
Unfortunately I have no ETA for when this might be.
Until then I can only recommend using another Twitter client.
I hope this helps.
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Originally Posted by Me
Thank you for the answer.
I am already using another Twitter client, but miss Peep...
I sincerely hope that Peep will be adapted soon.
Is this problem (already) sent to the development department?
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Originally Posted by HTC Thank you for your email.
Yes, HTC is working on solving this issue as soon as possible.
If you have any further queries please don't hesitate to contact HTC again.
Have a nice weekend.
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So, HTC knows the problem, is working on it. But still no ETA.....
wensing said:
Just to add my story:
So, HTC knows the problem, is working on it. But still no ETA.....
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It's good to hear someone else's experience. I will ry to get back in touch with the HTC rep I've been communicating with this evening or tomorrow to see if there are any updates.
Hello Everyone,
i've finish working on my application RemotifyMyDroid, and uploaded it to the market place toy can download:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.yazan.remotifyMyDroid&feature=more_from_developer
it sends notifications to your PC, when you got event on your mobile,
best case when you are charging your mobile in a room, and setting in another..
however you can use it in different purposes ...
the phone and the PC should be on the same LAN,
in future i may upgrade it to work over the internet ...
it notifies for those events:
1- Incoming Call (shows the caller number to)
2- Outgoing Call (someone using your mobile to call a number)
3- Your mobile is fully charged (in case you were charging it)
4- Someone unplugged the power of the charger.
5- New Incoming SMS.
to download the PC server
http://www.yazandroid.com/
and go to RemotifyMyDroid (1st link) and it contains some screen shots to.
also have a look at my other FREE 2 applications there
your feedback is appreciated
Yazan.
Sounds great, but I think setting this up might be a tad harsh for general use (firewalls etc). I would suggest building an intermediary platform (web service) to communicate to. That way you can have a very easy setup. For instance, you can use the Google login service to identify yourself from the phone and the notification program and that's it then. No IP's or port numbers as most users don't know what that is anyway.
But for the techies, good start.
Cheers
bra1nDeaD said:
Sounds great, but I think setting this up might be a tad harsh for general use (firewalls etc). I would suggest building an intermediary platform (web service) to communicate to. That way you can have a very easy setup. For instance, you can use the Google login service to identify yourself from the phone and the notification program and that's it then. No IP's or port numbers as most users don't know what that is anyway.
But for the techies, good start.
Cheers
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good point, and that what i was afraid about in the first place
i am planning to take this to the internet as a next step, i will be doing that soon
thanks bra1nDeaD
stinger1 said:
good point, and that what i was afraid about in the first place
i am planning to take this to the internet as a next step, i will be doing that soon
thanks bra1nDeaD
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No problem
Portal pending. Nice app
I will use this when it's possible to use it via the web. Maybe a Chrome/FireFox/IE plugin would be cool?
Really nice idea!
Another suggestion : an honeycomb client
let us be notified about our phone when it's away and we're using our favorite tablet
I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/
Timmmmmm said:
I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
[Link]
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What a great find... The integration with Growl will be excellent on my HTPC. Also, this allows easy integration with EventGhost through Scripty.
just installed. works fine.
Any chance on a open source version, i would like to see how you did this. an maybe use some of the code in a Domotica project of mine.
Hey another MightyText. At least I can use this one lol.\
Timmmmmm said:
I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/
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Have you ever heard of...dare I say it...variation of ideas? Just because there is something similar out there, does not mean it is identical. Please do not spam dev's threads with others work.
he's right though, there is google voice add on for chrome that does this, mighty text, and that last one he mentioned.
Timmmmmm I'm sorry to have to say this, but I think you may have wasted your time:
http://code.google.com/p/android-notifier/
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its not a waste of time, and for sure i have learned couple of things while developing this app, its not a waste at all.
otherwise you will see a single app for each purpose ... on pc\mobile ...
one more thing .. why do you think there is Windows , Linux and Mac??
could not other parties just SAVE there time and NOT develop another OS!!!!
Any chance on a open source version, i would like to see how you did this. an maybe use some of the code in a Domotica project of mine.
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for now i am not planning to open source any of my work,
sorry
Really nice idea!
Another suggestion : an honeycomb client
let us be notified about our phone when it's away and we're using our favorite tablet
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this was on the list next
with this to
I will use this when it's possible to use it via the web. Maybe a Chrome/FireFox/IE plugin would be cool?
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still thinking which one will go first,
thanks all
Hey, didn't try it yet but I have some suggestions, in addition to a web service:
reply to sms / transfer calls to PC
low battery event
as an option, deliver every notification from notification bar (alarms, songs played, ebay auctions ending, FB msgs, etc.)
cheers
Mac version would be awesome .
Hey, didn't try it yet but I have some suggestions, in addition to a web service:
reply to sms / transfer calls to PC
low battery event
as an option, deliver every notification from notification bar (alarms, songs played, ebay auctions ending, FB msgs, etc.)
cheers
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hey lastnikita, thx for suggestions,
i will be working on such updates,
but regarding the call forwarding to PC as far as i know you can't do it as the call is protected by the OS. it has limitations...
Mac version would be awesome .
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hey Bomster,
there is a MAC version...
not tested yet, i don't have a MAC, please if you try and send us a feed back, that will be great
cheers
thanks,
stinger1 said:
but regarding the call forwarding to PC as far as i know you can't do it as the call is protected by the OS. it has limitations...
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Using bluetooth maybe ? PC as a handset (would have to be paired before)
I understand then distance range would come as a limit for many use cases, but could still be enjoyable instead of standing up to pick up the phone !
lastnikita said:
Using bluetooth maybe ? PC as a handset (would have to be paired before)
I understand then distance range would come as a limit for many use cases, but could still be enjoyable instead of standing up to pick up the phone !
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that looks fine
now we have along list to start with lol
cheers
Before the upgrade to Lollipop the email application would predict destinations based on emails received, even if I didn't have them in my contacts.
For instance If I received a mail from someone new called "John Doe" even if I didn't have it in my contacts. If I started a new mail and started typing in the To: "Joh... I would get a suggestion for this guy address or similar ones, including the matching contacts in my contact list.
Is there any way to retrieve this behaviour? Why has Sony/Google remove such thing? In a day to day work environment is very annoying to have to add every single person I receive emails from to my contact list.
Thanks in advance!
It is not removed. And always after a major upgrade it is best to do a factory reset.
Seriously that's the only option?
We have several cases in the office, including boss, and I'd like to keep android, but if what you say is true... sounds very unreliable for work.
daniel_fm said:
Seriously that's the only option?
We have several cases in the office, including boss, and I'd like to keep android, but if what you say is true... sounds very unreliable for work.
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Give it a try, crossing from KK to L is a major firmware upgrade. A factory reset is necessary.
My email app works great, all the functions.
It is not unreliable, it's a must, after that it will be ok.
So I recommend a clean install.
P.S.
You can try to go to Settings : Apps : All : Email - and clear data, before you follow my first advice.
Thanks for the advice, if it works for you, certainly worth a try, at lease clearing data, even if I have to configure all the accounts again )
daniel_fm said:
Thanks for the advice, if it works for you, certainly worth a try, at lease clearing data, even if I have to configure all the accounts again )
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Let me know how it worked out.
TheTeslaCoil said:
Let me know how it worked out.
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sorry for the delay, as I had the testing mobile getting fixed. As you say it works, or so it does with a mobile recently reset to factory status.
Thanks again for your time.
Now I'm into trying to find how to make whatsapp not using the lolillpop semi-drop down notifications, just to show with the icon in the notification bar as it did in kitkat (lollipop changed many things indeed).
daniel_fm said:
sorry for the delay, as I had the testing mobile getting fixed. As you say it works, or so it does with a mobile recently reset to factory status.
Thanks again for your time.
Now I'm into trying to find how to make whatsapp not using the lolillpop semi-drop down notifications, just to show with the icon in the notification bar as it did in kitkat (lollipop changed many things indeed).
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No problem, I had a little vacation myself.
About the notification, try a third party app from PlayStore.
TheTeslaCoil said:
No problem, I had a little vacation myself.
About the notification, try a third party app from PlayStore.
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It's really the new "heads-up" notification method in lollipop, that is mandatory with no way to disable it unless you use a modded solution.
Problem is our phone has little modding yet. Will keep an eye for options.