Hello,
I'm newbie, so plz don't get mad, in case I have a question that has been answered earlier. I did use the search function of this forum intensively, but couldn't figure out how to do what I'd like to do.
What I know so far (plz correct me if I am wrong):
1. The ROM consists of two sections. First the extendedRom and secondly the storage section. While the storage section is writeable, the extendedRom is read-only.
2. It is possible to transfer the extendedRom memory area to the storage area, so that we have more space to store applications and data (bigStorage).
The questions that I have:
a) There is a ROM version and a ROM date. I guess the ROM date depends on the ROM-version. If that's the case, I think it's useless to indicate the date if one already knows the version, isn't it?
b) What does the radio-version tell me about a system? I did search for "radio-version". But it's hard to get the appropriate information, if every third's signature contains the 'radio-version' of a user..
c) What is the protocol version about?
d) On desktops or NBs my core system is mainly determined by my 'c:\windows' folder and the registry entries. How does it work for PPC? I still have the O2 Active User Interface and I don't like it very much. But before installing any apps, skins and plugins I would like to format my XDA mini and reinstall the core windows mobile from the scratch. Just like reinstalling a new desktop system. Is that possible? What do u think?
Thx for all coming answers,
moses3k - yet another magician lover
Hi,
For details on the rom-layout you can consult the wiki.
The dates & version numbers are apperently not from the same scheme eg radio 1.13 appeared months before rom 1.13 which came with a 1.12 radio.
Reinstallation of your magician is a hard-reset camera&power&soft-reset pressed at the time. To skip O2's 'extra's' you'll need to soft-reset just before customization starts. That's right after you get the default WM background after finishing the init.procedure.
Cheers, M
Related
Hey guys!
I've got the i-mate Jam... can I install the S100's ROM on it?
What's the difference between these two device's ROM?
There are quite a number of threads discussing this. Basically they are almost the same. It's more on what additional software is in the Extended ROM. I've used both I-mate and Qtek ROMs in many instances but see no big difference. I immediately make the BigStorage ROM and install Extended ROM software that I like.
How can I make the BigStorage ROM? What is this?
Sorry boys, I'm new to PDA I tyry to gain more infos as possible
Thank you
The standard configuration of a Jam/S100/Mini is that a certain amount of storage memory is reserved for carrier/brand configurations and is totally inaccessible to the user. The BigStorage ROM is a hack which gives the user access to this storage for installing software to this memory area keeping the main memory area more free for running programs. It also becomes more flexible since the user can decide which carrier/brand configuration apps to install. There are many threads about this topic, or checkout the topic "Upgrade to 1.13 WWE in 10 easy steps".
As always suggested, please search more on this topic and before you decide to jump into the band wagon, be sure to make a backup of your data and current ROM.
Thank you zerimar, you're very polite to explain me the way.
The point is that here all the users knows a lot about the PDA, how is its internal structure and what kind of tricks we can do to take it @ best.
I'm novice and I'd like to read a very small and concise guide that can explain me the basic things like how much amount of ROM we have instaled and if it is simply flashable (as "storage") or only during flash-upgrade, how it is divided and what tasks any section has, where stores WM and where the other custom software from carriers ("third part").
If it it possible to update olny some parts of the ROM a time.
Thank you for support and answers (could be very short)
Search!
Excuse me, search for what (which search key?)?
May I've to read all the forum?
All Your questions are already answered across this forum
All you have to do is to use the SEARCH option because everything is already answered across this forum. If you dont like to read, imagine if You need to write!... LOL
Seriously: Please how You ask somebody to write if You are not willing to read... :wink:
Hi,
For the rom-layout go to the wiki, it contains a complete description. & yes you can update eg. the splash-screen & radio separately.
You must use sd-flash method or shippedlrom method to apply BS.
Howto's are available in other threads, like the one suggested earlier.
Cheers, M
Hi all,
since I am new to this PDA stuff (got my first HTC Magician last week), I have a question: what are those different ROM version and editions on your FTP site for?
I noticed, there are several different directories, for example:
* BigStorage
* Extended ROM
* Shipped ROM
* Modified ROM
* ...
Could someone explain this do me please? For example, what does this "BigStorage" mean, what are "Modified ROM"s?
Greetings and thanks for your help in advance, Matthias
Hi haimat,
- The shipped roms are the roms are unmodified like they can be downloaded from the various providers.
- The extended roms are a part of the shipped roms. Normally you don't see them on your device, but they are out there somewhere hiding and sneaking upon you when you perform hard-reset (powerbutton & soft-reset at the same time). Sorry got a bit carried away here. You can make them visible with the loadvdisk.exe, a hidden rom file in the windows folder, either create a shortcut to it with your PC explorer via the Act.Sync. or get something like total commandef or resco file explorer. Last option is to do a hard-reset and after you finished the init.proc with time-zone etc. perform a soft-reset. This will prevent the autoexec. from the extrom & the loadvdisk.lnk in startup won't be deleted then.
- BIG Storage roms are patched romdumps from other people's magician's (made one myself for 1.13WWe). These roms don't have an extrom anymore. The extrom is about 20Mb & can be combined with the Storage folder you have at this moment (approx. 7Mb). Get the picture? A lot of space to install programs & store data that doesn't disappear after hard-reset or powerloss.
Course you need a copy of an extrom when you apply BS to get all your default MMS & gprs settings etc from your provider.
-Modified roms, well the name says it all. Haven't tried those yet, you'll need out what is changed before applying those.
Just a little warning about the BS patch, before you think I WANT THAT read everything in the thread's for ways to solve any probs. encoutered with them. It's not without risc & you can end up with a not working device. So take your time to get used to the terms etc. Gather all the tooling & read everything again.
There's a lot of info at the fora here, reg.hacks useful apps. how to's. I'm sure you can find everything you need.
BTW welcome to this sharing and very useful community.
Regards, M
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Hi, thanks for your good explaination of the different types of ROMs!
I will look into them...
Greetings and thx again, Matthias
When uograding to bigstorage for the first time the process can look daunting but fear not, even if, as mine did, it doesnt go as per the screen shots / directions it may still work. Mine did and with the following installed here is what i have ended up with.
SPV M500 / Magician with bigstorage
running are
intellidialier, voice id (extra from extended rom)
Installed are : --
Tomtom 5, Calligrapher, pocket breeze, pocket contact, avantgo, pocket music, and several other small aps not worth mentioning.
I the process went ok using my 1gb card until: ---
As the how-to says the rom size created relfects the size of your card so the rom i was working with was 1gb, I could not use the recommended hex editor with that file due to system resources, let me tell you when you are that far into the process and you cant open the rom it is very annoying. Thankfully there are several other hex editors out there that let you load files up to 4gb allowing for resources but unfortuntely neither my old xp laptop nor my media centre could still open it. I ended up using my powerbook G4 with HexEdit 1.1 which loaded the rom just fine for editing. All the rest went OK until the end of the flsh back to the phone where i got a failed message, after a soft reset it booted into the new rom with no problem.
I have to stress to you guys thinking about trying this, it IS worth it. I am so pleased with the results. After updating and setting up BT Activesync, mms, pop3 etc and with all aps running I have the following: -
Allocated 17.7MB Allocated: 29.70 MB
to use: 11.16MB to use : 14.75MB
Free: 6.55MB Free: 24.95MB
And that is in a running state with no restrictions.
Well done to the community for such good documentation and their desire to share information and allow us newbies to get the most out of these wonderful units.
Hello,
I hope I dont sound like an idiot, but what is a big storage rom?
I have heard it mentioned quite a few times in the forum. I have a Krome Spy ( analog of M500) from australia.
Thanks.
rohseq
Nice to know that you were successful in upgrading to BigStorage. I've done it since the very beginning. My next step would be "nonentity's" File System Tweak.
@rohsek: please search this forum and you will find the answers you need.
rohseq said:
Hello,
I hope I dont sound like an idiot, but what is a big storage rom?
I have heard it mentioned quite a few times in the forum. I have a Krome Spy ( analog of M500) from australia.
Thanks.
rohseq
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With BIG Storage you convert your EXT-rom with operator brandings into extra internal Storage. You actually append about 20MB to the default 7MB Storage folder. Very nice hack.
Regards, M
COuld somebody tell me where I can find the HOW-TO described above??
Aren't there any standard ROMs?? It seems to me that when someone creates a specific ROM for a specific model, this ROM can be used in multiple devices or am I making you :lol: ROFLYAO :lol: by asking this question??
I've also got an Orange SPV M500 (with a huge memory shortage )...
Could someone please help me out??
Thanks in advance!!
Kind regards,
Maarten
Hi Maarten,
Still in English: visit this link for a complete description http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade. For an already patched nk.nbf you can download this one ftp://xda:[email protected]_NK.nbf/BIG_Storage_nk_for_rom_1.13WWE.zip
Success, M
Dear friends ,
thanks for accepting me to be a part of this forum.
i have just been given a o2 min xdaii.
this is a upgrade to what i was using before ,and belive me i am lost with the jargon cab ,arm ect.
what i would like to know that other Pockect pc hp,bell ect use similar software application if so how can i use them,what are the parameter i should see to use before i download and apply so that they can be used by me.i would not like to be locked up and not be able to nothing about it.
so before i can try i would be much OBLIGED if you can brief me as to what critera i should adhere to.
it would be of great help to me
thanks
Hi rmelco1!
First, welcome to the forum!
Now a couple of basic terms:
CAB - a file which contains a program installation and can be run on the device by clicking it from file explorer. Usually apps will come with desktop installer that will transfer the cab automatically.
ARM - The standard of the processor. Once there were others (MIPS, SHA) but today only ARM is left, so any app from recent years would likely to have only ARM version.
Now here is what you need to check for compatibility:
1) That the app is for ARM processor.
2) That it is for Windows Mobile 2003SE or earlier. (WM 2002 apps will run on your device, but WM5 apps won't)
3) How much storage and program memory the app requires. You can go to Start->Setting->System->Memory to see how much you have.
4) Processor speed. Some apps like Skype are dependent on high processor speeds and if I am not mistaken your device has 195MHz processor. It will run the 'slow' Skype version though.
Well that's about it.
Good luck.
thanks a lot i am much at ease now.i am forwarding to u the details what should i make out it .and what can be done to enhance it
windows mobile 2003 Second edition
version 4.21.1008
romversion.1.11.00wwe
rom date.3.4.05
radio versio 1.11.00
ext rom versio 1.11.922
speed 416 MHZ
ram size 64mb
flash size 64mb
i am using a opera 8.6 bowser for web surfing.
my phone a times become dead slow and hangs up .and then i have to soft reset it .the sound is not to good but ok .the camera bad and no radio .but i still nice using it after nokia phones .
thanks once again
much obliged
rmelco
levenum said:
Hi rmelco1!
First, welcome to the forum!
Now a couple of basic terms:
CAB - a file which contains a program installation and can be run on the device by clicking it from file explorer. Usually apps will come with desktop installer that will transfer the cab automatically.
ARM - The standard of the processor. Once there were others (MIPS, SHA) but today only ARM is left, so any app from recent years would likely to have only ARM version.
Now here is what you need to check for compatibility:
1) That the app is for ARM processor.
2) That it is for Windows Mobile 2003SE or earlier. (WM 2002 apps will run on your device, but WM5 apps won't)
3) How much storage and program memory the app requires. You can go to Start->Setting->System->Memory to see how much you have.
4) Processor speed. Some apps like Skype are dependent on high processor speeds and if I am not mistaken your device has 195MHz processor. It will run the 'slow' Skype version though.
Well that's about it.
Good luck.
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Here are a couple more tips for you:
1) You should put your device type and ROM version in your signature (see this post for example). That way when you have a question you won't have to retype the info.
romversion.1.11.00wwe
rom date.3.4.05
radio versio 1.11.00
ext rom versio 1.11.922
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2) Check out the Magician forum, you'll find a lot of stuff specific to your device, and of course there is a link to the wiki on the main page.
3) Note that when you click on the X you don't actually close the app, but minimize it. I suspect that is why your device becomes slow after a while (memory is all used up). To really close the program go to Start->Settings->System-Memory->Running programs. You can also get a program like SK Menu or MagicButton that let you close apps directly.
And finally check out this site: www.pocketpcfreeware.com
Good luck!
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thanks a lot pal i will do as nessary . will be in touch with you if u dont mind
thanks
regards
raaj
quote="levenum"]Here are a couple more tips for you:
1) You should put your device type and ROM version in your signature (see this post for example). That way when you have a question you won't have to retype the info.
romversion.1.11.00wwe
rom date.3.4.05
radio versio 1.11.00
ext rom versio 1.11.922
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
2) Check out the Magician forum, you'll find a lot of stuff specific to your device, and of course there is a link to the wiki on the main page.
3) Note that when you click on the X you don't actually close the app, but minimize it. I suspect that is why your device becomes slow after a while (memory is all used up). To really close the program go to Start->Settings->System-Memory->Running programs. You can also get a program like SK Menu or MagicButton that let you close apps directly.
And finally check out this site: www.pocketpcfreeware.com
Good luck![/quote]
First off .. great n00b intro video
So, I hope the specific contents of my question havent been already addressed ... the question has been asked I know but ... anyhow...
I own a Taxi firm.
We use XDA Orbit II running Windows Mobile 6.1, allowing the drivers to receive jobs and bookings etc.
Currently, we send any PDAs to a third party to do any flashing that might be required.
To save myself some cash (it costs me £29.99 a throw) I want to be able to do this myself.
What software do I need?
How do I get hold of the flash file?
Are there any gotcha's I should be aware of?
Thanks for any and all advice you care to give.
Regards,
Glenn.
I've found some software on the O2 website in the support area that tells me its updated the ROM version from 3.13.206.0 to 3.13.206.0.
The process took about 10 minutes.
The eagle eyed amongst you will have noted that the version numbers are the same.
Is this what is termed as a reflash?
I half expected the Windows Mobile installation to have been wiped too (6.1) but it hasnt. On boot, the device just went into the standard setup routine as though I had cleared user data.
So, what has changed?
Is this "reflash" what the 3rd party company I use is charging me £29.99 a throw for? Or are they (likely) to be reinstalling Windows too?
If so, where can I get a hold of the disks that will allow me to reinstall Windows?
Regards,
Glenn.
Also, following on from what I am now assuming is a reflash, I note that the 3 lines of numbers which are displayed shortly after the initial switch on of my device, have changed.
Pre "flash"
R 1.58.25.14
G 25.69.30.05H
D 1.25.0.0
After "flash"
R 1.59.42.15
G 25.85.30.07H
D 3.13.0.0
Looking within the Windows Mobile OS, I can see that these numbers coincide with
R = Radio Version
G = Protocol Version
D = Base ROM Version (? guessing here ?)
What is Radio used for? WiFi? GPS?
Xda Flashing
this is Xda Flashing Rules
Is that a question, a statement or a criticism?
Have I posted my questions in the wrong forum?