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After reading some forum threads, I couldnt find any answers to my two main problems.
First of all, the battery life is horrible. After a day of medium usage the battery has to be recharged. I was trying many different things, but nothing would do any difference in battery life. I have been reading about 2-3 days of battery life. No way. Not with my device.
Isnt there anyone who has traced the problem? Is there any fix I dont know about?
Second, what is this light sensor supposed to do? There dosnt seem to be any difference having it on or off in the settings tab, nor is there any difference in various light conditions. I could hold the device in perfect dark or under a 100 Watt light, there dosnt change anything. I was wondering if this is some bug, fault or not implemented feature. A light sensor is supposed to control the keypad backlight. Am i wrong?
One last thing. Is there any setting to control the brightness setting of the device?
Thanks for your help and time.
1. battery life is great for me. have you installed any software that is doing stuff all the time ? have you changed any power settings ?
2. light sensor is only for keypad light. keypad light will not come on in bright conditions.
I don't think there is any setting for screen brightness (I have been looking all over the place). Would be a good thing for HTC to get out in the next firmware release.
First of all thank you for your reply. As it appears, the light sensor does
work as intended after doing some cleaning around the area of it.
Cant think of any reason for this as the device was never really used
outside or under heavy conditions. The battery life however still is
nowhere near good. No programs were installed at all. I did a hard
reset and avoided to install anything till I get some hold on this issue.
As for screen brightness, you are right. There are no settings to be
found in the menu and nothing seems to be posted around the web.
Any other suggestions?
I have had many pda phones. the difference is that they are full computers and can do alot more then normal phones but never have the battery life.
I have never got more then 2 days from any pda/phone, inc. nokia s60s which are supposed to have have good battery life.
I am getting around 3 days from the htc s710. This is with a few calls every day and around 30mins wifi. Although I recharge every 2 days otherwise its on 1 bar for the end of the third day which is disconcerting.
If you are getting less then this on moderate usage it might have a fault. Presumably you have it under guarantee.
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
How is your reception? Bad reception could be a reason for bad battery life.
Isn't the N73 a 3G phone and maybe you have better 3G reception than GSM?
Just a theory...
...i get 60 hours after the 3rd charging circle with bluetooth on all the time and two push mail accounts (company exchange server and windows live mobile push, push is active between 7 am and midnight), some phone calls and web sessions. thats absolutely acceptable.
cheers, lutz
htc-s710
same here friends
bluetooth and 1 exchange over gprs and wifi open all the time
nice battery life.
msaw said:
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
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I have found a bug in the power settings.
Quick qu. (before I tell you what it is)
- have you ever changed the power settings (i.e. screen shut down)
- does your screen switch off (It will always dim - but does it switch off completely) ?
rgds
msaw said:
I really have to recharge it every night, otherwise I am out of luck on the next
days morning. The only two reasons for this i can think of are, either its really
a fault of the device or battery, or Bluetooth is draining more energy on this
device than it did on any other I know of. Prior to this I was using a Nokia N73
with the exact same usage and was able to operate it for at least 2 days
without the need of recharging.
I am somehow disappointed by this device. While its a great smartphone overall,
the battery issue is giving me a hard time here.
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n73 is known for having an above average battery life, so expecting the s710 to be anywhere close to that is asking for dissapointment
I have an E650 and have bluetooth on all day syncd with my tom tom for handsfree calling. Spend about 3 hours a day on the phone, send about 30 txts. if battery is fully charged before i go out i'll have at least 60% left by the time i go to bed. The battery life beats the old xda exec I used to have hands down, so no complaints from me.
colonel said:
I have found a bug in the power settings.
Quick qu. (before I tell you what it is)
- have you ever changed the power settings (i.e. screen shut down)
- does your screen switch off (It will always dim - but does it switch off completely) ?
rgds
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Yes, I have changed the power settings.
Yes the screen switches off after the set period of time.
msaw said:
Yes, I have changed the power settings.
Yes the screen switches off after the set period of time.
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But, screen switches off or backlight switches off...is different!
Byee
Sky_Lab said:
But, screen switches off or backlight switches off...is different!
Byee
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Backlight switches off. I cant see anything on the screen, its going black.
Cant comment if its just the backlight or the screen as well.
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\ value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
rademaar said:
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\ value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
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Dear rademaar, I appreciate you advice and help, but I havent ever installed
or used TomTom. While I think that others programs might as well alter
some registry settings and be the cause of the problem, I have to say that we
are talking about a Hard-Reseted, no software-installed Vox here wich cant do
more than a day without charge.
Someone stated that the GSM coverage might be the cause of the problem.
I am starting to think that this might be possible.
rademaar said:
The problem you have is well known.
Tomtom is causing this.
You have to change some things in the registry settings.
value display"
Make this value 30 and after 30 seconds the display is completly off.
This should solve the problem.
Found this on www.pocketinfo.nl
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I did however check the value you mentioned, and it appears that I dont have
any values inside "\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\", it goes deeper into
"\HKCU\Control Panel\Power\LockLevel" value display gives key "Locklevel=0".
Do you suggest to alter this value or create a new one?
if you backlight is turning off (after dimming), then its not the cause of any issue.
the backlight issue is comprehensively covered here:
http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=254042
BIG WIFI problem..
Hi, I have just bought it and after trying the wifi (while the phone was charging) I encountered in a problem. First connection ok, then I disable the connection tries again and the wifi status was always connecting...
So I reboot the phone and now I have no wifi status and it say to me that the driver is not loaded!!!!!
impossible to connect to wifi.
I have already done a clean of the system but it still dont work.
No program has been installet yet!
thank you for your help
Problem w/Vox Keyboard - Anyone Else?
Hey all...
First I want to qualify this post by saying that I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SMARTPHONE! I've finally found the convergence of one-handed use w/a full keyboard that does all my contact/appointment tracking, emails, etc.
Now...my problem: I've had the phone about 30 days now, and just last week have had problems with the backspace, carriage-return, shift, function and space keys on the QWERTY keyboard. They will just stop responding in the middle of typing (doesn't matter if it's a message, email, calendar notes, etc.) The only way I can fix the problem is to slightly close & reopen the keypad with a little flex-pressure on either end of the phone.
Luckily Mobile Planet will exchange the phone for me with no charge, but I was just wondering if anyone else was having this problem.
Hi
Only had my Orbit 2 for a few days and already there are quite a few problems with it...most of which got resolved so not too bothered there
However there is one problem that I cant fix. Sometimes when I bring up the TouchFLO it will crash on the screen with the radio, copilot, alarm, etc. The text under the icons does not load and the only way to get out of it is by pressing the end call key.
Soft reset doesnt solve the problem, it did once but only temporarily.
Hard reset has solved it (don't know if the problem will come again), wouldn't mind too much about that except I did a hard reset about 2 days ago for another reason so it is clear the device is just screwing up somehow. I barely installed much software on it.
So i've only hard resetted once to see if I can solve the problem and so far its worked. Hope its not temporary.
If anyone could help me I'd be grateful
(P.S. The button with the end call key and 'OK' is a bit loose, I can jiggle it about slightly left and right...)
Never had this many problems with my Artemis and for a device worth over £300 (over $600) I really think this is unacceptable. First the drivers, and now small problems which screw up the device totally. HTC are messing up big time and I think with all their negative feedback O2 might just cut down on buying their products.
The only time I've ever had Touch Flo, well, the Touch Cube crash was due to my installing City Time Alarms. After uninstalling, everything went back to normal. Maybe a specific app was causing your woes?
I installed an old version of SKTools and did a registry cleanup, maybe that had something to do with it... It did delete a whole lot of stuff..
I remember the problem only occured after I installed SKtools. I did do a hard reset earlier today and that was because the device became slow.. but nothing to do with TouchFlo.
Anyway I have hard reset the device now so I should not be getting any more problems from it..
But I am getting worried about the deivce though, there are so many bugs with it! Like today when the alarm went off to wake me up, the GPRS was turned on for about 56 minutes and I was definately asleep so I couldn't have turned it on!
I am scared to install a program on it incase that likes to mess up my device!
Also, is it normal for the right buttons (end call/OK) to be a BIT wonky? Like you can move it a bit from left to right? They work perfectly fine and I doubt they will suddenly detach or something! If you shake the device you CANNOT hear the slighlty wonky keys or anything, but just got a bit worried cos the other keys opposite it (pickup/windows) is not wonky at all...
This device is not worth £300
At most I would say it is worth £250
It is just so full of bugs and I have never had these kinds of problems with the other 4 PDAs that I have owned in the past. The more higher tech you go, the more unreliable the device becomes. My XDA II which I owned about 2 years ago was the most reliable I've ever had. HTC are really screwing it up and I think they are more interested in their money than their customers. I hope they screw up big time and I mean big time. If it wasn't for XDA-Developers they would have been out of business a long, looong time ago.
With regards to HTC, they didn't screw up. Sounds to me, just like anything you buy, you got a lemon. I would exchange it for another unit, not only for the system instability but also the "defective" (loose) button.
I bought the item off eBay so I cannot return it
The button is fine though, its nothing major it only moves ever so slightly and I dont think theres any problem with it. It works perfectly fine, I shouldn't really have mentioned it in the first place!
The system instability is normal though I am sure, look at what other problems people are having with their devices that get resolved every day.
O2/HTC doesnt expect lots of users to install custom ROMS (well I haven't) or edit the registry so the devices will be more user friendly and if you play about with that it can screw up.
I thought the device is kinda bad but I guess i'm happy with it, If I just use it normally and stop trying new things out on it and stop using programs like SK tools (lol) then I'll be fine. And if I have any small problems I am sure they can get resolved on here.
Anyways I am only 15 so I am going to be happy with what i've got lol!
prank1 said:
Hi
Only had my Orbit 2 for a few days and already there are quite a few problems with it...most of which got resolved so not too bothered there
However there is one problem that I cant fix. Sometimes when I bring up the TouchFLO it will crash on the screen with the radio, copilot, alarm, etc. The text under the icons does not load and the only way to get out of it is by pressing the end call key.
Soft reset doesnt solve the problem, it did once but only temporarily.
Hard reset has solved it (don't know if the problem will come again), wouldn't mind too much about that except I did a hard reset about 2 days ago for another reason so it is clear the device is just screwing up somehow. I barely installed much software on it.
So i've only hard resetted once to see if I can solve the problem and so far its worked. Hope its not temporary.
If anyone could help me I'd be grateful
(P.S. The button with the end call key and 'OK' is a bit loose, I can jiggle it about slightly left and right...)
Never had this many problems with my Artemis and for a device worth over £300 (over $600) I really think this is unacceptable. First the drivers, and now small problems which screw up the device totally. HTC are messing up big time and I think with all their negative feedback O2 might just cut down on buying their products.
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I had the same problem. You actually have to let it sit for about 10 mins and it will load. If you close it, it might freeze for another 10 mins. After some time, the problem went away for reasons I cannot explain. Then, every time I select a button on the cube, the cube closes and I have to reopen it every time I want to use it.
Also, the bugs related with the "Word Completion" option, which does not function correctly, gave me a miserable experience with writing and typing. It slowed my writing and typing because I constantly have to correct bad guesses. I cannot turn it off either because the "Word Completion" option does not work. Sure I could go into the registry and mitigate the problem, but I returned it as a manufacturer defect.
I assume it will go back to HTC and I hope it will result in a response to fix the problems. For >$800 after tax, I would expect the purchase to function correctly.
Hi
Yes the word completion is annoying, I can't turn it off either. It is annoying when you write smaller words such as 'sed' as opposed to 'said', the word completion decides to change it.. It is really annoying especially when you have to type on the move. Not to mention it uses up a whole lot of characters when you try to said a text message. It is much easier and quicker to write 'thru', it uses only 4 characters whereas the proper spelling of the word 'through' uses up 7 - nearly double. With a limit of 160 characters per message you will find that you will quickly reach that limit. I have quite a lot of free texts so I do not mind much but I hate it when it puts the incorrect word in the place!
Also with your TouchFLO problem, did you try hard resetting the device? I found that if you play about with the registry the phone quickly messes up. That is understandable but harmless registry modifications such as the 'ShowSIM' can even screw up your phone!
If a problem appears on my device can I give it to O2 to repair for a fee -- I do not have a warentee so if they agree to fix it for a fee only then that seems fair.
prank1 said:
I installed an old version of SKTools and did a registry cleanup, maybe that had something to do with it... It did delete a whole lot of stuff..
I remember the problem only occured after I installed SKtools.
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prank1 said:
Hi
I found that if you play about with the registry the phone quickly messes up. That is understandable but harmless registry modifications such as the 'ShowSIM' can even screw up your phone!
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Maybe its just me, but while programs like sktools can simplify your life, I really hate the idea of a non-device specific program tweaking my registry. I like to do it myself so that I know exactly what goes in, and I can assess exactly what comes out. FYI: I've never had a crash due to registry mods (but in my early days (pre-Touch Cruise) of installing random cabs and fixes I did get crashes).
prank1 said:
...Also with your TouchFLO problem, did you try hard resetting the device?
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Just soft resets. I didn't want to wait 10+ hours to resync my emails, contacts, etc after a hard reset.
After much thought and experience with HTC phones, I bought my Asus P565 a few days back. Here are the issues I am facing with the phone :
1. Battery drain - When the CPU "Turbo" mode is selected, the battery drain is quite fast (about 12 hours to discharge from 90+% to 20+% with the phone in standby). Results are somewhat better (though not good) with "Automatic" and "Standard" Modes.
2. Heating problem - When any mode other than "Power Saving" Mode is selected, the handset heats up when not in standby, temperature being maximum for "Turbo" mode. However, usage of "Power Saving" Mode makes my phone as fast ( rather slow) as my HTC Touch.
3. Poor signal quality -I say so, as the phone goes out of coverage at some locations in my house, where my HTC Touch and NOKIA are pretty comfortable.
4. Poor earphone quality - The earphone diaphragm has unwanted vibrations even when the talk volume is low. This is not expected on a PDA phone of premium segment.
I have tried the Malaysian ROM from their FTP site, but it wasn't of any help.
Is there anyone else facing similar issues, or is it just the issue with my phone ?
ya man i am also facing similar problems i was buying tytn ii but because of ASUS cpu and benchmark results i bought asus .
But feeling cheated i am having htc p3300 its performence is much far better then asus the main problem is signal quality. its of no use
P565 and P552w
Your'll are scaring me. Even I plan to buy P565. Now the signal and battery drain are big issue's. Also P552w is giving equally good results on benchmark. Any suggestions?
Hi people, I googled "Asus P565 Heating Problems" and found this forum!
I bought my unit from the PC Fair last month (April).. I was hunting for a Winmo device and was choosing between HTC Touch Diamond and Asus P565, and wanting to be different (coz I have plenty of friends and relatives with the Diamond already), i chose the P565 instead. Mistake...
Firstly when I got the unit home, the unit had a faulty screen.. kept going green and yellow. Brought it back to the PC Fair the next day and they exchanged it 1-to-1 with a new unit. So no complains, except for my time, trouble and outrageous parking charges @ KLCC.
Less than a month into using the unit, the battery suddenly heats up. Even in standby mode!! It was discharging from 90% to 20% in a matter of 4-5 hours without any usage!! Went back to the dealer and they directed me to the service centre. Was told that there maybe some software I installed that's not compatible to the system and could be causing the battery to drain. I was like "What?? Even when no programs are running?". Anyways, they were nice enough to replace me with a brand new battery but asked me to try hard resetting the phone the next time its occuring...
Well, last night, it happened again.. the battery drained from approx 70% to 0% overnight in standby mode - with no usage...
Is there something terribly wrong with Asus handhelds?
i think asus handset are on teseting face all are having problems. friend u can try to put ur CPU MODE TO POWER SAVING MODE . and i think u should also check out for new ROM upgrade from asus site . i update my handset just 10 days back everthing was fine but still the signal quality was very poor . then i upgraded with this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3767081 rom the signal quality is good but battry as u said sucks.
u can try following
- cpu mode Standard
- in 2g/3g select gsm
- try 6.5 rom or lite rom
don't hate me. cause i know i'm going off topic a little bit
you see, i learned a new lesson today. turns out i don't know how to read Chinese and this 500 dollar asus p565 have just become usless to me. anyways does anybody know how to change from chinese to english. I started to google. i'm not that lazy, i just got way to many different answers. so what i have
step 1: its illegal or something and voids the warrenty (i hope not)
step 2: download the new english rom from some site
step 3: save it on your storage card (storage card must be less than 4gb)
step 4. connect to computer active sync show hidden folder and locate file on card and run the .exe
step 5: get some kind of error message locate something and rename it something
step 6: yadda yadda something happens or something then you get like a reboot screen and you use the nav keys to tap on something else
step 7: cool things happen but don't touch nothing untill its done
step 8: ... what?!? where did i mess up try it again?
also i heard you could do regional settings > something> language change> english. but i heard that doesn't work and i can't even read what says what. i even tried typing the words in google translator and looking for similiar symbols but no luck.
now i know alot of people are reading this and thinking this kid is dumb and ignorant, but please understand i do know nothing but i'm willing and trying to learn all this fancy lingo and how to do cool mods and hacking without totally frying my phone (R.I.P. more beloved sprint mogul ) So if somebody would kindly fill in the gaps for my steps. i would even be flattered if somebody just took the time to read this and laugh behind my back.
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
Also it could be radio and what most likely is the signal strength. As weaker the signal, as more power required to compensate.
WAAAAHHHH! Don't buy a smart phone then.
I get a full days use. About 2 hours of music playing, signed into an IM client and do some msg and talking and still have 75% at the end of the day.
My guess that its your rom, but i am betting you didn't change the setting in HTC's task manager.
Go to Settings > system > Task manager and change the close action button actually close the buttom. The default action for WM task manager and HTC task manager is to minimize or hide the apps.
So let's say i open WMPlayer, Google Maps, Contacts, Text, Microsoft word. I hit the X, but if i don't change that setting, when i press the X, those programs are still running consuming battery and memory.
Try making sure no unneeded tasks are running and update your radio to 1.14.25.05, and Da_G's 6.5 rom and lets see how ya do next week.
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Yo PwnCakes193..
I feel yur agony.. I used to experience shi tty battery life too.. My raphael can only sustained for like 5 hours.. without battery draining applications like music player even running..
However, Things took a turn when i flashed my raphael to the following rom and radio:
ROM Version: ROMeOS v1.95.4 WWE
Radio: 1.12.25.19 (With matching rilphone version)
It is so much better now !! I have calls and sms coming in while Garmin GPS is running for like an hour with battery dropping only 15% from 100% to 75%... !! And i **** u not.. And by the way.. my raphael's been with me for like 5 months now.. I'm loving it more each day..
Good luck and hav fun!
Too advanced for you?
PwnCakes193 said:
I was excited when I got this phone, everything was going cool and all that....
The battery is the worst thing I have ever seen. I've tried all the radios, got all the power tweaks applied, I get down to 75% battery on EDGE, only texting in less than 5 hours. WTF is this? Is this a joke? It's not even funny! And not to mention the unreliabilty of the phone. I plan to send an email to HTC and ATT to see if I can work out anything. Never buying a phone from HTC again.
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Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
I echo what's been said in above posts and would add as a suggestion only to try the new htc rom with the 1.14.xx radio both are the latest from htc. Boring I know, but very stable. Don't throw your device away without trying it. The custom roms can be frustrating as they can be unstable at times, but very fun to tweak and experiment with.It sounds like yourmore a user who wants stability over the rest. Go to htc site and search for latest rom, try that 1.14 radio and report back.
I use a 1800 mAh battery in my pro and I always charge everynight. Not a big deal. I also have prolly less than the 75% you reported at the same time, another not a big deal. "it is what it is" You can adapt or you can get a diff phone. I have an LG dumb phone my work supplies me for calls only, that battery lasts 2 weeks . LOL!!
wow, harsh words.
It's not like this complaint is an isolated one. There are other forums out there(AT&T, and Howard) that have the same observations about battery life. To say that it is a portable pc and that someone should be happy with 6-8 hours of battery life is pretty silly too. It is a smartphone, like the blackberry, like the treo, like the blackberry. And when people complained about the battery life of the Iphone, it's not like everyone said, deal with it. Apple released another firmware to try and remedy this. Blackberrys seem to go for a couple if not more days without charging with 3G, push email etc running, so why would this not be expected from the Fuze?
I own both the Tilt and the Fuze and find I can squeeze out about 3 days with push email, a bluetooth headset, about an hour or two a day of listening to music through the headset and 3G enabled. The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the tilt, so wouldn't it be logical to think i should be able to do the same with this product? I have flashed several different roms and radios(with the rilphone.dll) and right now cannot get past 8 hours of usage on it. I thought it was the radio but I have tested it without a sim in it and get the same results. So either the battery is faulty, or it just stinks.
I am going through troubleshooting it right now, and based on some helpful hints on other forums, am trying to discharge the battery fully in hopes that it resets the battery guage.
I think helpful posts, like those that say try a new radio/rom are good ways to respond. Saying "go get an Iphone" or "this is a ppc, deal with the battery" are not helpful to people who search the forums for solutions.
Just my 2(maybe a lot more) cents
Reefermattness said:
Well go buy an iPhone and stop cluttering our forum. They are made for the mainstream trendy techno gadget people who cant solve their own problems, but still want to look cool and smart in public when they pull out their phone. Neither ATT or HTC is going to change their whole hardware because of your e-mail.
Do you even realize what youre saying? Do you listen to yourself when you talk? First off, anyone that knows how to use their phone, and sets up the correct ROM/RIL/Radio combination gets a full day charge off of it, sometimes even a couple days. Second, do you realize that is a small PC in your pocket, and youre complaining about battery life?? Have you ever used a laptop? You know that brand new laptops only get 2-3 hours of battery life right?
Really, go get a regular phone, HTC phones are not made for everyone, and apparently this one is too complicated for you.
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Really? Listen a**hole, I know what I'm dealing with. I'm running the 21210 build of 6.5 that I cooked in Da_G's Kitchen with the .20M1 radio AND RIL. Yes, I know i'm being picky, but a phone should last at least a little while, no matter what. I get a full day charge, but just texting and no calling, on EDGE, I should easily be down to 85% in 24 hours. I know it's a small PC, but that is no excuse. I am a mainstream tech savvy person, and I mod/hack everything I own, use everything to it's full potential. I don't want an iPhone because its an overhyped and, in my opinion, horrible phone. I was never trying to look cool when I bought this phone. I even helped a few members out here when they bricked their phones, and I taught a few how to cook ROMs!
Next time think before you post, you troll.
baboola said:
I think it's your rom. I get through a full day on H no problem. Which roms have you tried?
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I have tried almost all the ROMs, my favorite being At0mAng's, but he's gone now . I'm cooking my own 6.5 ROMs now
The Fuze is supposed to be the successor of the Tilt? I guess according to the order that ATT purchased their HTC phones, but probably not according to HTC...
The HTC Touch Pro is the successor of the Diamond. Just because ATT replaced the Tilt with the Fuze does not mean its the successor. Tmobile is calling the TP2 the "Wing 2" in America, does that mean it's the successor to the wing?? NO. If anything most hardcore HTC follower will agree the TP2 is the successor to the Tilt (kinda obvious isn't it?).
Regardless of what order they came in, or what phone its supposed to replace, the Fuze has a bigger processor, twice as much ram, and twice as high resolution LCD. Its hard to compare the 2 on battery life. My Tilt gets a faster GPS lock, and the battery lasts way longer, than the Fuze. Does that mean its better? NO.
If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
If you have an honest question where you need help then please ask, and im sure someone will help you get MUCH better battery life! All i really meant by what i was saying before i got sidetracked, is that if you don't like your HTC products, or it doesn't fit your lifestyle like you thought it would, then take it back, and get something else. Just don't come into a HTC forum, and start badmouthing products, because that will get you nowhere, and you should have been expecting the answer you got.
I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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If you're such a badass 'hacker' then you should obviously understand how much power the hardware in your device uses vs the size of the battery.
I'm the troll? You joined XDA a month ago....
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Where'd you get badass? I just said I hacked/modded a lot of the things I owned.... I haven't gotten into the processing specs and all that stuff yet...
And since when does being a troll have to do with what time you joined? I have yet to troll on this forum, I have either asked questions, or have helped people who are having trouble....
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I'm with leak73 on this one. I think this forum is great, but I do think there are too many people that jump on someone as soon as they say anything negative about this phone.
I bought this phone to make my life easier, to manage work and personal tasks on the same device. I thought this device was the one I had been waiting for.
I am also disappointed with the performance of the Raphael. And I don't think it should be asking too much to expect the device to work properly straight out of the box. Yes, I appreciate that this is a windows mobile device that has massive flexibility and can be customised, but those possibilites should be in addition to a stock device that does the basics properly.
I have had a number of issues with the phone - battery life, dailer issues, poor reception (and I know this can contribute to poor battery life, but why should it be so much worse than other devices I have used in the same areas?).
The members on this forum have helped me out a lot over the past few months (which I am very grateful for) tweaking and trying to get this phone to be what it should have been in the first place. And while I am now enjoying tweaking and customising my phone, I will never criticise anyone who points out the shameful fact that this device is virtually unusable without putting time and effort into sorting it out.
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I hear that, I can relate as I've had my s**t jumped a few times on this forum as well and I always learned from it. I'm not an expert at all and thats the reason I come here to learn about my various wm devices, currently the touch pro. I undestand the issues especially with battery and stability.Except for battery I don't have any complaints that you mention. My RF which I value as a number 1 priority is very good. No dialer issues here either. I also think it would be nice to have perfectly operating devices right out of the box and considering what we pay for these things, it seems we should get better. In my experience all the wm devices I've ever had have had inadequate batteries. It's just the way it is. I did not expect my pro to be any diff. in that regard. I got it anyway and bought a better battery. In the past few weeks I've tried various 6.5 roms with differing results and none were very stable. It's the way it is and I don't really expect it to be better, but I love it anyway. I've used symbian s60 nokia devices and thought some of the e series have outstanding stability and battery life. So I have choices.
My choice is to continue learning and I'll get extended batteries when I think I need it. When I get tired of the wm BS I'll go back to E series for awhile.
For anyone who is calling themselves proficient in wm and the various ins and outs of flashing and obviously has some experience apparently, I find it kinda strange that they would be surprised by the battery life. Stability can be had from diff rom combos. But bad battery life is a given with wm. we get used to it and move on or go check out e series. It also rocks! Lotsa choices.
Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
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Maybe I am one of the unluck ones that have experienced more than my fair share of problems. I have had more issues than I mentioned in my last post - obviously the GPS problem, keyboard lag (although it seams to be fixed now with tweaking), dodgy call acceptance/ring delay (this seems sorted in the new HTC Rom), active sync issues (not sure if this is the software though) and the general lock up issues.
Don't get me wrong though when this device works it is everything I hoped for, I just wish it worked like that all (or at least most) of the time.
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
wow, boys, calm down. *****ing at each other is oh so productive. maybe we could try to HELP each other out and be friends! just a thought...
i'm getting maybe 12 hours on a full charge running the leaked att stock rom and it's really starting to tick me off. i bought a portable power pack that can give me a full charge on its full charge (Xpal harry II) but i want to be able to get AT LEAST a full day without having to pop it onto a usb or wall charger for 20 minutes. im thinknig of flashing to da_g's or natf's 6.1 roms witihn the next couple weeks hoping that they'd be able to improve my battery life. i'm pretty happy with the radio and i'm in boston so no major signal issues there. maybe it's just a sh*tty rom draining my battery?
and now that i wasted 10 minutes reading this thread, i'm giong to go back to studying for finals. joy.
EDIT: I installed the fuzeberry theme a week or two ago and that's caused a TF3D problem (see my thread here about this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511760) but is there any chance that THIS is also killing my battery? hate the att manila but i might have to revert back if it gets me more hours :\
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what tweaks did you apply to fix the keyboard lag?
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****, sorry mate I can't remember now, I changed a setting in the registry and installed a keyboardincrease cab? Maybe others on here will be able to point you in the right direction. I am a noob at this type of stuff really and just follow instructions that members on here suggest - once the problems fixed I forget about it.
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try using a 6.5 ROM I cooked now, it's doing fairly well, i would Hard-SPL, then try and flash a new radio or ROM, should help you out, turn off 3G, which should help. Also download advanceconfig and turn on the power saving items there.
FWIW, I have never had good results with the gps, but since I flashed the htc 5.05.401.1 with radio: 1.14.25.05 I now get very quick lock times. Also battery is a bit better even tho I'm running shell3.
So I've had a T-Mo S7 for about a year and a half now. It's incredibly slow/unresponsive and I've spent a really long time troubleshooting.
I've done full factory resets, and direct ODIN OS installs with data wipes. Whenever I do this, the phone starts out, with all current apps installed, extremely fast/responsive. I have a somewhat limited app library, and I haven't added anything since the phone slowed down noticeably.
About two months ago, the Samsung Device Maintenance app, which until then only reported battery draining, said "Some apps or processes are overloading the system (CPU)" and the app it reported was something like com.android/google.searchbar" which I assume is the google search bar widget. I thought, "awesome, the device app is actually doing something." I told it to kill the app and my phone sprung to life. My phone was super fast for a long time, but is now back to being super slow again. I searched "Apps" in device settings and can't find any apps/processes that sound anything like search bar. Also, how is there not a system resource monitor in system settings!? Clearly, an app is hogging resources, because I've experienced periods of responsiveness. Is there no direct way to figure this out without doing the safe mode process of elimination?
Can someone help shed some light or suggest further troubleshooting steps? Thanks in advance.
I got mine on black friday 2 years ago and I've been having the same issue. Of course my battery doesn't last very long being it's over 2 years old. I'm guessing it may have some.thing to do with the battery voltage being so weak after so long. I'm due for an upgrade obviously but I'd be fine using my S7 for another year if a battery replacement did the trick. I believe I was told in chat that I could go into the store and they'd only charge me $5 but I assume they'd have to send the phone out unless they just swap it out for a refurbished one. I've had no other problems with mine at all so not really the route I want to take.
Anyone else familiar with this process? Has anyone else had their battery replaced or phone swapped and notice if the fresher battery helps or is it just a symptom of it "can't" handle the newer OS properly? Any feedback would be appreciated. Hopefully it helps us both out. Didn't mean to hijack the thread!
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I got mine on black friday 2 years ago and I've been having the same issue. Of course my battery doesn't last very long being it's over 2 years old. I'm guessing it may have some.thing to do with the battery voltage being so weak after so long. I'm due for an upgrade obviously but I'd be fine using my S7 for another year if a battery replacement did the trick. I believe I was told in chat that I could go into the store and they'd only charge me $5 but I assume they'd have to send the phone out unless they just swap it out for a refurbished one. I've had no other problems with mine at all so not really the route I want to take.
Anyone else familiar with this process? Has anyone else had their battery replaced or phone swapped and notice if the fresher battery helps or is it just a symptom of it "can't" handle the newer OS properly? Any feedback would be appreciated. Hopefully it helps us both out. Didn't mean to hijack the thread!
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So I promise it's not the battery because I had it factory replaced by Samsung. To answer your question, yeah you have to send it in. With the waterproofing they have to do it at a repair center. However, for me it was 100% worth it. I think I was without the phone for about 10 days. But having a brand new battery life was incredible.
Also, as I was working with the phone slow for a while, it immediately and dramatically became quick after device maintenance killed that process. But a few months later, I'm back to suuuuper slow.
The S7 is getting old. Old things slow down. It's planned obsolescence. I've gotten to the point of turning notifications off for all apps and only using badge numbers to tell me when to check something. I also use do not disturb a lot when gaming instead of game tools because game tools is another app but do not disturb is more of an internal process. As soon as my taxes come back I'm probably going to get a S8+