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Finally managed to flash my mda with a bigstorage rom
All is good but I got a slight prob with something else. Although I hated the customisation of T-Mobile, I found it helpful that the phone automatically installs all the progs and settings in the extended ROM after a hard reset.
With BigStorage, I presuming that the Extended Rom folder is amalgamated with the Storage folder. Do you guys know whether it is possible to add the Cab files (e.g. intellidialer, etc...) to the Storage folder (as it was in ExtRom) so that it automatically installs the progs and customization options after a hard reset?
Or do you recommend going back to a traditional Extended Rom inclusive ROM and edit the Extended Rom there? I understand that ROMKitchen cannot be used on Mini's so do you happen to have any other program recommendations?
If the above two isn't possible yet, is there anyway of preventing the mda from deleting the Cab files after I install from them. For instance, when I install Intellipad, the cab file is automatically deleted. I had hoped that I may use this cab file again by dumping it in the "Storage" folder and using it if I need to hard reset the damn thing again
Thanks again
Hi rockykabir
sorry first for my english... I will try to explain my solution:
1. I have made a backup of all the Extended_ROM files to my PC (open in explorer loadvdisk.exe and copy through activesync.)
2. Made the Bigstorage and the Radio-Update (thanks a lot guys for the help that I have found in this forum.)
3. Made a small CAB-File which has to start first (see atached file)
4. If this file is installed, you can create a hidden and read-only folder on the SD-Card named: 2577 (Foldername is important)
5. Place inside this folder: autorun.exe and install.m2w and make the changes in the instal.m2w file. Think its easy.
6. Place all the recent CAB-Files into this Folder.
7. Make changes as you need
Make sure, that the folder and the files on the SD-Card are read-only and the folder should be hidden (not sure about that). If not, the Cabinet files will be deleted after installation.
How do I work now with this SD-Card? Easy... After a Hardreset, place the card into your MDA. Start Ext_Start.cab.
Put out the SD-Card and put it in again..... Enjoy.
Now i search only for an easy solution to make a small Extended_ROM for the Ext_Start.cab and the IIWPO. That task will be the next...
Enjoy the day
Thanks sooo much mate!!! - thats very kind of you as this completely solves my prob. I hope this is of use to others as well
Hi
I know there are lots of people asking how to save space and mostly they get told to use 'search' and check the stickys.
I'm a keen gadget lover but have no technical background. I have a 64mb Tmobile MDA (with the horrible branding) and the following setup:
R 1.00.10
G 1337.36
D 1.01.00 WWE
I've heard/seen references to big storage etc but I don't really understand it.
Can someone either give me:
- a really simple way to update my rom etc, or
- suggest another way to delete stuff that I won't need (don't want to delete stuff only to find half the programs no longer work)
- explain the easiest way to get rid of all the Tmobile stuff
Many thanks in advance
To prevent the Branding stuff from loadibg you must hard-reset your magician (backup first!!) and after the initialization (calibration etc) you must soft-reset just before the customization starts. You got about 3 to 5 seconds to press the softreset, so when your screen reads 'tap screen to start using ....' you put the stylus in soft-reset hole & then tap the screen. As soon as the default blue WM background appears you press the stylus to soft-reset.
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
To gain more storage you can move camera & album from \windows to storage folder. Remember to change shortcuts & registry as well. This saves ariund 1MB. More is possible: I've got < 8MB ram memory allocated to installed stuff with almost all ext-rom cabs installed. Yes I moved a lot.
To gain BIGstorage you can follow instructions below, but first you should get more familiar with the magician I guess. You can save your ext-rom cabs though & update to rom 1.13
url in instructions. To upgrade you just connect the magician to usb & start the downloaded shipped-rom & follow the instructions. Make a backup first & write down your gprs settings, caus you'll have dutch ext-rom cabs after the update. They're in English but contain dutch TMO settings.
Instruction for BS:
- Get nbfdec.exe from the thread 'Upg to 1.13 WWE ROM (with 1.13 Radio) in 10 easy steps!' @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&start=0&sid=75c5e40168a22052fb7c5554bddd68c2
- get maupgradeut_noid.exe from the ftp
- Download the shipped rom from:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
- Download the Hexeditor from:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html
1. Unzip NL_11300_131_11200.exe (or any other shipped rom)
2. Put NBFDEC in the same directory as the unzipped shipped rom files
3. Copy the getdevicedata.exe to your Magician and execute to write DeviceData.txt
to \Windows and view with notepad
5. Decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1:
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
6. Hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt
(probably only if using a rom from other provider)
7. Replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor:
locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 in the nk.nb1
(use binary search for this!!)
7. Encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
8. run maupgradeut_noid.exe to upgrade CE image
Also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
Regards, M
Many thanks OLTP for your reply....perhaps it's me but I still find that quite technical....when I have to rename stuff etc I'm not sure where it is to do it.
The tmobile branding piece is clear and I'll have a stab at that tonight though.
Perhaps I'm just destined to struggle with memory or buy a 128mb device.
Appreciate you taking the time though - anyone else want to have a pop at help a keen but useless gadget lover !
BS is unfortunately quite technical & this is the easiest way.
I suggest to remove the branding, that will save some storage. get more accustomed to your magician by exploring it without changing.
I can write you some steps for moving files to gain more ram.
maybe in the future you can think about BS again.
Cheers, M
pna: oltp's guide is about the best you'll ever get!
Basically, to debrand, do what he says in the first paragraph. This will remove all the additional TMobile gunk being installed. So, you need to hard reset (which will restore your system to "factory condition", and wipe everything), and then soft reset at the right time. Then you have a nice, fresh clean system. You can then read the board to see what files you might have skipped by achieving this, but frankly, you won't have missed much.
You can get your tmobile settings (for gprs etc) from here:
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sp3_setup.ihtml
FYI, before doing anything, get hold of a copy of GSFinder+ or a similar explorer. You will need it do any kind of installing/renaming etc.
Before venturing into the hardrest/soft reset business, consider if you want to do the big storage hack. Again, oltp's guide is perfect, but first the theory: the Extended Rom is like a small disk stuck inside your phone, carrying "backups" of the tmobile configuration stuff. If you do Bigstorage, it'll free that space for your use, giving you an extra 20mb or so to use for free. You can install stuff in there, and use it as a small, but bigger, disk to store stuff on. There's no reason not to do it, other than it's difficulty:
Difficulty? Yes, it takes some time, but instructions are provided, and clarified by oltp, so just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.
It does require some knowledge, or confidence to learn.
So ideally, you want to:
1. Backup any files you want to keep.
2. Do Bigstorage.
3. Skip extended rom rubbish.
However, before you worry about bigstorage or anything technical, I suggest you just do this: clean up your system as it is now, and then just in future remember to install every program you want directly to your SD Card. If you do that, your system will generally have more than enough memory to run well. You can skip all the bigstorage and extended rom business. It's only necessary for those on a particularly tight memory budget. This should be fine for your needs I think.
FYI: to install onto your SD card, always choose NOT to use "main memory" when installing from your PC, or on the PDA, download and use a great program called cabinstl. That will allow you to install to your SD card.
V
oltp said:
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
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oltp, do you mean I cant rename, move, or delete any of the files in extended rom? So its safe even if they show?
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
Sure,
You can use bal666's tool to convert the ext-rom part of a romdump to a diskimage which you can mount under Windows XP, with appropriate software ofcourse.
Then you can do whatever you want with your ext-rom. Requires flashing of your magician & a hard-reset.
For starters I recommend to skip executing of the ext-rom by applying a soft-reset just before the custmization starts after a hard-reset. This way you won't cripple your device.
M
Many thanks OLTP & vjay555,
The branding thing worked a dream and saved me 6mb.
Now want to do big storage. Have got all the downloads ready but just need a bit more help on the 1-8 settings.
I'm really sorry that I need such basic help - haven't really got a clue what I'm doing but prepared to give it a go - please help.
1. No problem with this...even I can do this.
2. Where is this...I assume I move them to the Magician using explore (through activesynch) - am I right...if so, is there an obvious place that the unzipped shipped rom files will be.
3. Can't find a copy of getdevicedata.exe, Where do i find it, and then how do I execute to write DeviceData.txt
5. Afraid I don't know how to do this
6. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
7. How do I do this
8. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
Also, a little confused in the section after no 8 - what do I do here?
Hope you haven't lost patience with me. Hope to hear back soon.
Cheers
Paul,
I recently updated the wiki (top right link on each forum page & go to the howto part of the magician section) with the BIG Storage from shipped-rom method. This contains some more info than this thread. Pls read it & mail me the remaining questions, you've got my email-address. I'll add some extra help then.
Cheers, M
Trying to download latest UK rom on WIKI site but the link to this ROM is not working: OS 1.12.00 / ExtROM 1.12.131 / Radio 1.12
Any ideas?
Ta
Yep a broken link, pls use this to go to the shipped rom section from the ftp: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/
Maybe I take the time tomorrow to check some of the links
btw latest uk-rom should be 1.13WWE from TMO.
nm8 said:
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
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you may want to check this out at htt*://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=395&PN=1. it is based on bal666 info. go check it out.
That's about romcooking and can be found herevas well. It's no BS hack.
Yes, it's no BS. But just a little info for nm8 to do ext rom customizations from his last reply.
hey Does any one have any tools to unlock the Extended Rom for my Magician (O2 xda2 mini), i wanna install some cabs in there pls do help.
1.Download Resco Explorer or Total Commander (cos you will need either these 2 program to enable "Reveal all files"
2. To unhide the Extended ROM, after you reveal all files, go to your File Explorer (Start, Programs, File Explorer)
3. Using the File Explorer, go to Windows folder and find this file called LoadVDisk.exe and then just run the file
4. Next, using File Explorer again, and go to \My Device and you should see the Extended ROM folder
5. Click on the Extended ROM folder and find the necessary cab file and click on it..
6. soft reset
also the search function is also quite useful. try it once in a while...
hey thanks for the advice will check on it, thank you.
hey man it works so how do i place another program in ext rom and will it be installed everytime i hard reset, and yeah since its unlocked how do i lock it again. than for the help hoping for a reply soon.
u cant place any new programs in the ext ROM. that ROM is supposed to be inaccessible to u. ur ext ROM should be hidden after the soft reset. check it!
You may not be able to place anything in the ExtROM till you unlock it. You have only "unhide" the ROM by running that utility. Till you unlock it you can only read the contents not write into it....
so tell me how do i unlock the ext-Rom of a magician, has anyone got any idea, pls let me know if there are any possibilities, i want to unlock the ext. rom of my O2 xda2 mini, pls help.
There are more possibilities read its content, (unhiding it). One possibility to hard reset it (pressing the Power button while pushing RESET). This will erase every data+programs from the device.
When the 1st boot finishes the ExtROM cabs are beginning to install. You have to Soft Reset the device (pushing RESET) to interrupt it. No cabs will be installed and ExtROM will be readable.
asinan said:
so tell me how do i unlock the ext-Rom of a magician, has anyone got any idea, pls let me know if there are any possibilities, i want to unlock the ext. rom of my O2 xda2 mini, pls help.
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There are no unlockers for Magician AFAIK. But now most of the people go for big storage hack with which you get 27MB of extra space for storage. Put ExtROM on the SD card. Lots of material avilable on this forum for doing so..
what is the advantage of having a big storage other than ext.Rom, if i need to can i reverse the process back to normal.
The term “Big Storage” in a nut shell is the process of modifying the built in ROM file of the Magician and deleting its “Extended ROM” contents which frees up approx 20Mb of space. This new space or “Storage” can be used to install 3rd party apps etc and won’t be deleted after a hard reset. The only way to restore the contents is by “Flashing” the ROM again with a new complete ROM File. - excerpt from ampda guide
so what is the latest rom with the big storage for a magician. i surely would love to make a switch over. thank you.
The latest and last ROM for the Magician is 1.13 with Radio 1.12. Actually you can convert any ROM to BS.
Hi guys,
I flashed my Wizard with the base OS ROM version 5.2.318 (build 15342.0.0.0, customization) published in this forum about a month or so...
After flashed, it just start the OS without running the Extended_ROM content, so I installed all cab files inside Extended_ROM folder by myself.
What I should modify in order this run automatically on next hard-reset?
You have a G4 Wizard looking at your signature, thus the files Autorun.exe and Config.txt (a list of all the cabs in the right format- these files can be found in the Faria Ext-rom tutorial package) need to be in the \Windows folder but they can still point to run Cabs from the Extended ROM. Check the registry before cooking to see it points to the autorun file then you're good to flash.
Thanks for the response... I did it and is working now!. Useful tip.
Hi!
The free memory of my device is getting smaller and smaller, althought i havent installed too much apps and not to much files.
I've been searching for a reason and found the file
/DebLogger/cprog.log
wich has a size of 26 MB
Can i delete it? Does it contain anything important?
Thanks! Cheers!
ok, after killing the process cprog.exe i was able to delete the file.
but after some usage it starts to grow again...
how to disable this?
thanks alot! cheers
You probably have a memory leak somewhere...
hmm... that means? and what can i do?
thanks!
nobody any idea?
Did you cook your own ROM? Or you using a cooked ROM or stock ROM?
yes i'm using a cooked rom and installed a lot of system changes, for example the new Phone Canvas from the mega pack...
I'm suffering the sme issue here: cprog.log is now 40 MB and i'm almost out of storage space!
me too, not a virus I hope
Yep. Mine is nearly 60 MB and growing.
I'm running TPC's cooked version of WM 6.5, if that matters.
Jack Vinson
ROM: TPC_V10_MEGA (WM 6.5)
Radio: 1.70.19.09
Phone: Kaiser 8925 (AT&T Tilt)
has anybody found a good solution yet?
true de task manager, you can kill cprog.exe and then delete the "big" cprog.log file but what after a restart??
And when i koll cprog.exe, my phone doesn't ring or vibrate anymore when i get called or receving a sms...
Have you tried searching your registry for "cprog.log"? Maybe you can shut it off.
cprog.log same problem
Got same problem !
P3600 HTC Cruise with WM 6.5 Pro cook rom pcarbalho exteme devs. Yesterday was unable to start device ... after various reboot finally started, and with the explorer in an ActiveSync connection :
renamed \DebLogger\cprog.log
restarted again
and finally ... delete the renamed file
have proven to remove the directory, but after restarting again, it re-create the directory and the file start growing again ...
Any solution?
This thread suggests some Registry keys to edit, which I just did. Basically, set everything to OutputEnable of 0, rather than 1 in the DebLogger registry unter HKey_Local_Machine/Software/HTC/DebLogger. This doesn't prevent CProg from running, though. so I don't know if it will keep the size in check.
I also notice another large file that is updated all the time in My Device root directory "pim.log". Anyone know what that is? (pim = Personal Information Management?)
Jack
Solution
Hi, i've found the solution in the TPC thread, someone found the way to delete cprog.
- With Registry Editor go to:
HKey_Local_Machine\Software\HTC\Deblogger
delete the whole Deblogger folder
- Soft Reset
- Delete the folder Deblogger with cprog inside in the Device Memory.
You have no more cprog growing and the mobile runs smoothly.
Do this procedure again if you do a hard reset, because the Deblogger is cooked inside Windows 6.5 build.
I think chefs will remove the Deblogger in their future ROMs.
Additions to the resolution process
Had this issue too... system became gradually slower and suddenly had run out of space ("you are running critically low on storage" kind of message).
Before I could delete the large file I had to install and run a task manager on the mobile and terminate/kill the "cprog.exe" application/process.
Cheers,
Daniel
Hmmm...for some reason I've started getting this issue, on my PDACorner Ultimate (WM 6.1)! Dont think its limited to 6.5 then!
Monfro said:
Hi, i've found the solution in the TPC thread, someone found the way to delete cprog.
- With Registry Editor go to:
HKey_Local_Machine\Software\HTC\Deblogger
delete the whole Deblogger folder
- Soft Reset
- Delete the folder Deblogger with cprog inside in the Device Memory.
You have no more cprog growing and the mobile runs smoothly.
Do this procedure again if you do a hard reset, because the Deblogger is cooked inside Windows 6.5 build.
I think chefs will remove the Deblogger in their future ROMs.
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Is no need to delete all the folder "HKey_Local_Machine\Software\HTC\Deblogger"
GO TO
HKey_Local_Machine\Software\HTC\Deblogger\zone\deblog\outputenable and modify the key to 0. restart the device and delet the file from main memory
changing the value to 0
Nykoon: I did just that and cprog was still growing. I remove the whole folder and that did it
cprog / deblogger
When I disable or delete the deblogger registry folder and delete cprog, my Pocket e-Sword program doesn't work. Will try again.
Using a Kaiser hTC, windows 6.1.