Hi there,
I'm wondering how the "backpack for Himalaya" is working.
It has a VGA/TV output, whereas the bottom pins on the Himalaya don't have VGA out.
What do you think? How does the screen information "leave" the XDA, if there are only USB, RS232 and audio pins on the connector (according to http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/Connectors )?
All help and tips are welcome!
Cheers,
Tomiki
Hi
Are you sure such thing exists ?
I know that you can pipe-out video from Ipaq H5550 through special expansion slot.
Himalaya doesn't have such connectors (only standard charge/audio/usb/serial).
The only way to get video out from it is to encode it and send via USB.
Just like Microsoft's rdisp does. (crappy.. about 10 fps, and is hard on device's CPU)
Ugh, come ON people.
Take the back OFF your device, and wonder! wonder at the extra connector I just gave your in all its goodness!
That will be £5 for pointing out the bleedin' obvious thank you.
The backpack connects here, you remove the existing back panel to fit it.
And yes, there IS a vga out on it.
Hi Pyrofel,
The thing is: I have a Blue Angel, so I'm looking for something like that on my Blue Angel ) I thought the VGA is converted into USB and leaves the XDA II on the USB, so that the same could be done on the Blue Angel as well.
What do you think?
Otherwise thanks for tlling me the obvious, sorry I couldn'T check it out without an XDA II
Cheers,
Tomiki
i dont think the backpack connector under the back cover of himalaya
are usb
for the himalaya to have 2 usb connectors you could use at the same time it
1 would have to have an usb hub
2 would have to be usb master which it's not
No, the connector under the cover isnt usb
No, vga doesnt come out over USB.
No, ive not seen the vga for Blueangle.
This is a special port, like the expansion port on the old Ipaq models.
I dont ever remember hearing about a vga backpack for anything other than xda II, obviously it sold so well they didnt bother with it on other models.
I think there is an SDIO card with vga out. I dont know where I saw it, but im sure it exists.
well i have seen usb to vga box's
but that would require
1 the pda being able to act as USB host
2 drivers for the box for pda's
i would not hold my breath
Maybe I could take the Blue Angel apart to check out if there's video out or not.
Otherwise Margi used to sell SDIO VGA cards, but it's discontinued.
I think only the Universal can act as a USB host, not the Himalaya, Blue Angel.
Well, I don't know, if somebody finds out something, let me know
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Technical
nude BA
and people dont even seem 100% sure that universal support host
HP VGA-Out PC card with iPAQ h5550
robal: "I know that you can pipe-out video from Ipaq H5550 through special expansion slot."
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Hi robal...where did you get this information from?
I'm trying to modify the driver for the HP VGA-Out card for use with my iPAQ h5550 with PC-Card expansion pack plus.
The card came bundled with driver for WinCE2.1 only & meant for Jornada 600 series handheld PC using Hitachi SH3 CPU.
Anyone in this forum thread got any clue how or where I can begin doing that?
Any advice in the right direction is appreciated.
Thanks!
Re: HP VGA-Out PC card with iPAQ h5550
konker said:
robal: "I know that you can pipe-out video from Ipaq H5550 through special expansion slot."
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Hi robal...where did you get this information from?
I'm trying to modify the driver for the HP VGA-Out card for use with my iPAQ h5550 with PC-Card expansion pack plus.
The card came bundled with driver for WinCE2.1 only & meant for Jornada 600 series handheld PC using Hitachi SH3 CPU.
Anyone in this forum thread got any clue how or where I can begin doing that?
Any advice in the right direction is appreciated.
Thanks!
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Well I have a h5500 and I can stick in a vga card (about $120 incl ir remote) and that gives me RCA as well as svideo outputs upto 1024x768. There are both cf cards (large supply) and pccards (I have the dual pccard adapter for my 5500 along with extra battery pack).
google around for a "pocket pc" "vga card" you will find many. But you need to get the "expansion sleeve" to make it work as the 5500 does not come with any cf/pccard slots by default. There *might* be a SD vga card out there, I havent looked as I have had a 1GB sd card in there for over a year and refuse to remove it
Rudegar said:
well i have seen usb to vga box's
but that would require
1 the pda being able to act as USB host
2 drivers for the box for pda's
i would not hold my breath
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you can make anything a USB host if its a USB client, it just takes a little bit of hardware. More than a null modem however (which is what some people sell). and yes the drivers would have to be there, all in all I dont know that it would be worth it unfortunately :/
The USB host is also supposed to supply the operating voltage for the clients, that is why the wizard charges (I presume others too) that way. If you dont you violate the spec and your devices may not work. This would put a lot of load on the battery and possibly make it run considerably hotter than it needs to.
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trixter said:
Well I have a h5500 and I can stick in a vga card (about $120 incl ir remote) and that gives me RCA as well as svideo outputs upto 1024x768. There are both cf cards (large supply) and pccards (I have the dual pccard adapter for my 5500 along with extra battery pack).
google around for a "pocket pc" "vga card" you will find many. But you need to get the "expansion sleeve" to make it work as the 5500 does not come with any cf/pccard slots by default. There *might* be a SD vga card out there, I havent looked as I have had a 1GB sd card in there for over a year and refuse to remove it
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Hi trixter!
Thanks for the reply...I have the PC Card Expansion Pack Plus & the HP VGA-out PC Card but dun have the right drivers to get them to work.
Any idea if the bundled driver(meant for WinCE2.1 running on Jornada 600 series H/PC) can be modified to work on the WM2003?
Please advice.
Thanks!
Related
I think we a ll agree at the moment the XDA2 canot host USB its self
but will either of these productus work with the xda 2
http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html
http://www.twin-paradox.com/SEPDA.html
thannks
henny
yes i suppose it would work
of cause you'd have to have a driver for those cards
plus you would also have to have drivers for
any usb device you connected to it which dident use the default
mass storage like sd flash cards does
also not sure if it would run the full 12Mbs
and you would of cause have to get the backpack to get CF
henny said:
I think we a ll agree at the moment the XDA2 canot host USB its self
but will either of these productus work with the xda 2
http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html
http://www.twin-paradox.com/SEPDA.html
thannks
henny
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The question is, why XDA2 doesn't suport the USB. Graphic accelerator used in XDA2 supports USB host!
i'm not sure but i dont think that the connector in the buttom of the xda2 is the usb interface from ati 3200
of cause i could be wrong
but i think that it would be easier for htc to modify the button connector control from the xda1 which dont have the ati 3200 chip
HI,
I've just recently got myself an XDAII and have found that I run out of storage memory easily. Is there an external hard drive available that I'd be able to hook up to the XDAII?
Also, can the XDAII act as a USB host to other peripherals (like an ext HDD or camera)? For example would I be able to download a pic from my camera via the USB to store on the mem card?
I appreciate any advice you can give me!
cheers
P
Also, can the XDA II act as a USB host to other peripherals
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nop it's a peripheral itself and that cant be changed
of cause if you buy the backpack and then get the usb CF card it may be able to host
Thanks Rudegar,
I figured as much in regard to the USB host. I'll look into the backpack option though.
cheers
P
Check this out... So far I don't think the unit is shipping. I am hoping it will not disappear into the vaporware albums.
http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/archives/000291.php
You would of course need a SDIO WiFi card too if you don't have one already.
Hi guys...!!!
I got a bit excited seeing my normal micro usb cable works with the touch pro. I just plugged it in for fun but it actually detected the cable and even my pc recognised the touch pro...
Did you guys know about it???
Just thought of sharing this piece of info with you all...
akash_nu said:
Did you guys know about it???
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yes... lol
thanks anyway!
Worked with all of the HTC devices I've used so far (Universal, Kaiser, Artemis, and Raphael) - still good to mention, though.
ROFL!!
And BTW: It's MiniUSB, not MicroUSB.
this must be a joke..seriously lol
the htc usb plug (the 3 way audio/charger/tvout) isc alled a "non standard mini usb" and your normal mini usb is a "standard" the only function the non standard plug utilizes is all the audio/headset controls (the bottom 5 pins) while he top 4 (associated with the standard mini usb functions) control the + and - voltages and data transfer. so one would naturally assume and realize that ANY mini usb would work And the fact that the wall charger that comes with any htc device utlizes the standard mini usb design so its a no brainer..
Sorry, dint know that you all knew about it... Lol...
is this your first htc device?
It's the simple things we take for granted...
Yeah this is my 1st HTC device... I am still learning and just reading and getting to know this beast slowly... Lol...
HTC has a different name for it, they call it: HTC ExtUSB™!
Besides the PRO, the other PDA that I had was the Qtek S200 and it had a "normal" miniUSB connection.
n00b.
hey, guess what...I can press buttons on the screen with my finger!
(sorry dude, don't mean to offend you or anything really......its just that such posts are hard to come by and its beyond my ability to control the evil side in me)
Akash,
I can understand your surprise. I remember just a few HTC devices ago, (maybe the SX66), you had to know the pinout for the cable for the exact device. To make matters worse, many different cables with the same looking connector, had opposing pinouts. So you could actually fry your device plugging in a lookalike cable.
So remember, don't be afraid to jump in on any topic here.
I'm trying to get mini-USB cables from monoprice... how many pins does the mini-B connector have?
monoprice has 4 pin, 5 pin, 8 pin, 14 pin usb->mini b cables.
Hi, what can i plug on the USB 1.1 connector? Hard drive, card reader, printer,...?
Thank you very much.
You can only use whatever the OS and the hardware supports.
So, a USB pen drive will work fine, as will a hard drive with its own power supply. USB powered hard drives won't work as they draw more current than the device can supply.
You can also connect USB keyboards and mice- even wireless ones work OK.
Printers probably won't work as the OS simply doesn't have the drivers installed, though a printer may work in basic emulation mode (Epson, Deskjet etc).
Cameras may connect OK- depends on the camera. My Nikon connects as it reports itself as an external drive, but my Lumix doesn't, as it needs a special driver.
Thank you very much.
Does anyone know if drivers can be added to the WM6.1 ROM for specific devices? e.g. webcams, digital cameras and digital video cameras?
Thanks.
In general the answer is no
Most developers wouldn't see the expense involved as worthwhile considering the extremely limited market. There are only a handful of WinMo devices that have USB Host capability, and of those, most users would probably not bother with anything more than USB Disk Drives.
I think most digital still cameras would be able to connect as disk drives, but video cameras would probably need a device with a much faster I/O subsystem to be able to accept the video stream.
...and I thought I could get all 'James Bond' by adding a mini web-cam to look under doors and round corners...oh well, back to using a mirror on a stick then.
thintin said:
...oh well, back to using a mirror on a stick then.
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Probably cheaper and more reliable
Not if it's anything like my last mirror, it was made by microsoft, it kept saying it wasn't compatible with the stick and then going blue!
Hello,
I have found that most bluetooth stuff works ok as well. Bluetooth mouse, keyboards,ect. I bought a great bluetooth mini keyboard with built in mouse pad like on a laptop and its first rate. I plug my athena into the telly, crash on the sofa with a beer and the keyboard. Much better than a laptop
a good rule of thumb is if it needs drivers installing it wont work on the athena. there is a thread somewhere on the Athena site listing everything that people have got to work, well worth a look.
regards
jay
That would be a good list to have. Can you tell me which Athena site it was on please? Also, which BT keyboard are you using?
Thanks, Phil.
thintin said:
That would be a good list to have. Can you tell me which Athena site it was on please? Also, which BT keyboard are you using?
Thanks, Phil.
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The keyboard is an keysonic ACK340BT, got it off ebay, and I cant remember what part the thread was, but try Athena accessories. Try searching peripherals or something like that.
Jay
Can anyone recommend a USB SDHC card reader that I can mount on my CM9 touchpad?
I've got the USB Y cable and can see the contents of USB sticks in Astro file manager, also managed to view the pictures on the memory card in my Olympus SLR camera. Unfortunately my other camera Canon compact camera doesn't support mass storage mode, so i want a SDHC USB card reader that i can plug into my touchpad to view the pictures on the memory card.
I've tried a couple of SDHC USB dongles and haven't been able to get them to work, i plug them in and nothing happens, no blinkning LEDs, no files showing in Astro.
So has anyone got this to work, if so can you post a link to the card reader you use?
Thanks!
obo789 said:
Can anyone recommend a USB SDHC card reader that I can mount on my CM9 touchpad?
I've got the USB Y cable and can see the contents of USB sticks in Astro file manager, also managed to view the pictures on the memory card in my Olympus SLR camera. Unfortunately my other camera Canon compact camera doesn't support mass storage mode, so i want a SDHC USB card reader that i can plug into my touchpad to view the pictures on the memory card.
I've tried a couple of SDHC USB dongles and haven't been able to get them to work, i plug them in and nothing happens, no blinkning LEDs, no files showing in Astro.
So has anyone got this to work, if so can you post a link to the card reader you use?
Thanks!
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Make sure you're file manager is set to show all/hidden files.
I use tiny Dane elec readers but any should work.
Make sure they are fat 32 format.
Does USB OTG work on cm9?
I can't get it to work with my nexus OTG adapter?
Thanks and sorry to hijack
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jameslfc5 said:
Does USB OTG work on cm9?
I can't get it to work with my nexus OTG adapter?
Thanks and sorry to hijack
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Yes it works
You need correct y and OTG cable and appropriate power source.
I managed to get astro to show the files on an USB Key, but when plugging 2 diff Card readers, and an SD card (fat32), although one of the adapters shows a led, USB storage remains empty under Astro...
any ideas?
tx
I took a punt and bought another SD card reader from amazon and it worked!
In case anyone else is looking for the same thing it's called "Daffodil UCR03 Ultra Slim all-in-1 USB 2.0 Memory Card Reader" on amazon.co.uk. This reads my 8GB SDHC card fine. Cost me about £3.50.
Can't include a link as forum won't let me cos i'm a newbie.
Would this work with WebOS too? And does this need external power source such as a USB hub?
I'm a total noob at this and could use a for-dummies version of how to connect a USB SDHC card reader to the Touchpad (I only recently flashed CM9).
Specifically, I would appreciate if someone could point me towards the exact products I would need in order to set up a USB card reader for my TP. I assume that I will need (1) a USB card reader (such as the Daffodil product mentioned by obo789) and (2) a micro USB adapter of some sort so that I can connect the USB card reader to the TP (is this the "OTG Cable" mentioned)?
If so, is there a particular USB card reader and cable that people recommend?
Once I've obtained the necessary products, would I just D/L Astro File Manager from the App store? Would EZ File Manager also work?
Sorry for the noob questions. I searched this and other forums but could not find a definite answer.
All the details on how to connect are here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1582771&highlight=otg
It just needed a 5 second search.
Thank you so much for the link. I kept searching for USB card readers and nothing came up (here and on other online forums). I didn't t think to search for USB OTG compatibility since, until last night, I had no idea what USB OTG meant.
Thank you again for your help and for pointing me in the right direction.
The two I got working were both double capped style, one cap for the SD card and another for the USB plug. One is branded Dane Elec IIRC and the other was a free promo item from Panasonic I got a while ago.
Anyone know where I can get a y cable in the UK?I've tried all sorts of searches on amazon.co.UK and eBay, annoyingly the ones linked from amazon.com won't ship to the UK
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4-in-1 OTG adapter may save cables.
obo789 said:
Can anyone recommend a USB SDHC card reader that I can mount on my CM9 touchpad?
I've got the USB Y cable and can see the contents of USB sticks in Astro file manager, also managed to view the pictures on the memory card in my Olympus SLR camera. Unfortunately my other camera Canon compact camera doesn't support mass storage mode, so i want a SDHC USB card reader that i can plug into my touchpad to view the pictures on the memory card.
I've tried a couple of SDHC USB dongles and haven't been able to get them to work, i plug them in and nothing happens, no blinkning LEDs, no files showing in Astro.
So has anyone got this to work, if so can you post a link to the card reader you use?
Thanks!
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Hardware is one thing, I just purchased one of these 4-in-1 adapters linked in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31034220&postcount=35
But your issue may be software/OS related, also discussed in that thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=30952816&postcount=34
or better yet: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33033-otg-usb-insufficient-available-bus-toolthingy/#entry921673
IMHO: you need the USB unmout utility presented there. Try it if your USB flash drives ot USB SD card readers don't work. You might just have a "insufficeint bus power" response, which the utility can correct. I can now read all my camera & camcorder SD cards from a USB interface that failed prior.
obo789 said:
Can anyone recommend a USB SDHC card reader that I can mount on my CM9 touchpad?
I've got the USB Y cable and can see the contents of USB sticks in Astro file manager, also managed to view the pictures on the memory card in my Olympus SLR camera. Unfortunately my other camera Canon compact camera doesn't support mass storage mode, so i want a SDHC USB card reader that i can plug into my touchpad to view the pictures on the memory card.
I've tried a couple of SDHC USB dongles and haven't been able to get them to work, i plug them in and nothing happens, no blinkning LEDs, no files showing in Astro.
So has anyone got this to work, if so can you post a link to the card reader you use?
Thanks!
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I'm planning to use: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Note-...ction-Kit/dp/B006MJZOMW/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_2
In theory you can use your HP charger connected to it as power source.
sheedatali said:
Would this work with WebOS too? And does this need external power source such as a USB hub?
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webOS needs some preware.
JOLiu said:
I'm a total noob at this and could use a for-dummies version of how to connect a USB SDHC card reader to the Touchpad (I only recently flashed CM9).
Specifically, I would appreciate if someone could point me towards the exact products I would need in order to set up a USB card reader for my TP. I assume that I will need (1) a USB card reader (such as the Daffodil product mentioned by obo789) and (2) a micro USB adapter of some sort so that I can connect the USB card reader to the TP (is this the "OTG Cable" mentioned)?
If so, is there a particular USB card reader and cable that people recommend?
Once I've obtained the necessary products, would I just D/L Astro File Manager from the App store? Would EZ File Manager also work?
Sorry for the noob questions. I searched this and other forums but could not find a definite answer.
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I've never used EZ File Manager? ES FileExplorer is fine.
I needed this app too: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/33033-otg-usb-insufficient-available-bus-toolthingy/#entry921473
Nathanation said:
Anyone know where I can get a y cable in the UK?I've tried all sorts of searches on amazon.co.UK and eBay, annoyingly the ones linked from amazon.com won't ship to the UK
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Sorry cant post a link cos I'm still new
The one i bought off amazon is now out of stock but i found another, search for "dual input usb cable" bit pricey but looks like it should work...?
Good luck!
Micro USB OTG w/ power
Nathanation said:
Anyone know where I can get a y cable in the UK?I've tried all sorts of searches on amazon.co.UK and eBay, annoyingly the ones linked from amazon.com won't ship to the UK
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Perhaps this? The Chinese don't care where they ship to:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130740524313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
ZedZardoz said:
Perhaps this? The Chinese don't care where they ship to:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/130740524313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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That should work and would have a lot less cable clutter than the original set up. With that all you would need is any microUSB charger to power it. There is also one for sale that has a male USB connection for power instead of a female micro USB. With this it would be easier to hook to one of those portable USB chargers that use a full size USB port.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-H...i9100-S3-i9300-i9220-i9250-XOOM-/140825132367
Thanks for the links, i was searching the wrong terms completely lol
Im hoping to use my otg stuff to read my canon 550d sd card and ive found and an app called DSLR controller which will hopefully let me use my touchpad as a remote viewer for my camera, i'll post a pic of my serup when everything arrives
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ZedZardoz said:
Perhaps this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/130740524313?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
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This one would be used with the stock HP charger (to micro-female):good:
spunker88 said:
That should work and would have a lot less cable clutter than the original set up.
There is also one for sale that has a male USB connection for power instead of a female micro USB. With this it would be easier to hook to one of those portable USB chargers that use a full size USB port.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-H...i9100-S3-i9300-i9220-i9250-XOOM-/140825132367
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:good:
This one is best, as you say, for portable supplies with Std USB such as this one listed here :http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=24462102&postcount=1 <<< 2AA Battery Powered Portable USB Power Supply: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M9Z5F6
I'm using this, as I already have this solar rechargable soulution I use for my phone:
http://www.goalzero.com/shop/p/8/Guide-10-Battery-Pack/2:8/
Nathanation said:
Im hoping to use my otg stuff to read my canon 550d sd card and ive found and an app called DSLR controller which will hopefully let me use my touchpad as a remote viewer for my camera, i'll post a pic of my serup when everything arrives
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I have a camera buff that wants to use that setup for DSLR, please return to post your configuration and results! :silly:
=== Review of Juiced Systems ACA adapter ===
I got this: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Multi-functional-Connection-Kit-Compatible/dp/B006MJZOMW
It appears to be a USB OTG ACA compliant device. Sadly it's for Galaxy Nexus Products and the full ACA compatibility doesn't appear to be implemented in hardware and/or software on the Touchpad with CM9.
1- It does function as OTG host port with the Micro usb from a charger powering the down stream devices. :good:
2- OTG to devices on USB/microSD/SD interfaces works well, but only one at a time for memory volumes (FAT32). Not sure if that's a software shortcoming.
3- Success with a wireless adapter for Logitec mouse/keyboard on USB. :good:
4- Haven't found an NTFS mount solution for Touchpad w/ CM9 nightly 0903.
5- It does connect to the Touchpad, but not with the HP folio case or any case as it's a close fit.
6- The ACA charging of the touchpad while hosting, or otherwise, sadly doesn't work as it was reported to function on SG2.
7- ACA indicator never lights up for charging or host.
Initial Result:
- At $20USD there are fewer cables, but full ACA charging doesn't work, which was my motivation to spend more.
- OTG to devices on USB/microSD/SD interfaces works well, but only one at a time for memory volumes FAT32.
- The physical connection seems a little weak to me. I almost feel like it could break off damaging the adapter, or worst, the micro USB interface.
Further tests:
- I want to check if the Wirless mouse/keyboard on USB can be used with a SD card in either slot.
- I'd also like to test of external HUB with devices further downstream such as self powered HDD and seperate USB Mice, Keyboards (for deskside use).
- Can anyone recommend a ICS compliant USB GPS & app?
Although this setup with: Touchpad, USB battery, Juice adapter, is simple and elegant, its pricy for features I'm not able to use (charging while host). I'm not impressed it will be rugged enough for field use.
Here is my recommended portable solution, which is also cheaper:
- HP Touchpad
- Battery soulution of choice <<< $4.25USD
- OTG host cable & power Y combo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-H...i9100-S3-i9300-i9220-i9250-XOOM-/140825132367 <<< $6USD
- USB memory / flash drive of choice
(or other USB device that is ICS compatible with HP Touchpad)
:victory:
Will do
Im getting the camera tomorrow and the cables and adapter should arrive soon!
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