Hi
Can someone please give me a step by step idiots guide for getting rid of all the [email protected] that orange put on the m500, thus making the phone run quicker?
I haven't got an SD card reader, is that a problem??
Cheers.
If you just want to get rid of the pre-installed software, you can do so quite easily: Just do a hard reset (hold down power button while pressing reset). Then, after you have finished the touchscreen calibrating stuff etc., there will be a popup saying the device will be configured automatically in 3 seconds. Now, do a soft reset at exactly this point and nothing will be installed. The ExtROM is still there, you can look at it with the file manager and manually install any of the programs you want.
If you want to completely remove the ExtROM, thus increasing the size of the Storage folder, then you need to do the BigStorage hack. It's not too hard, there are many good step-by-step guides available. A very good one written by HBK can be found here. You will definitely need an SD card reader though.
If I do the reset, will I lose everything else that i've got stored??
If I do the reset, will I lose everything else that i've got stored??
Yes, with a hard reset, RAM is cleared and you will lose all data. Unfortunately, that's the only way to get rid of the pre-installed programs, as you can't uninstall them the normal way. Your calendar, todos, etc. won't be lost if you sync it to your PC first, but any settings you made or 3rd party programs you installed will.
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Okay, here is the story... Sometimes I just want to soft reset my Tornado to close those "unclosable" apps like MSN Messenger. So I wrote this little program to help me. Now I don't have to turn off the phone and turn it on again just in order to do a soft reset.
I'd like to share it. Haven't been tested on Tornados other than mine. Use it at your own risk.
Just extract the exe from zip, copy it to your Tornado, run from File Manager... you can also create a shortcut for it. :roll:
B.T.W, It DOES NOT work on Windows Mobile 2003 platform. So don't bother to try.
It's updated. No more stupid ARE YOU SURE question.
Few question asked (ok ? Yes ? are you sure ? )
But work ok for me
Maybe turned OFF Button and turned ON Button will be shorter don't you think ?
Thanks anyhow
edit : on the second RUN less question Asked. Only one actually "Would you like to Soft reset"
I guess other question was the Win Mobile 5 things when you first run a new APPZ 8)
Bonjour. It's updated.
I just made it for fun.
Planning to add scheduled reboot function. So it can reboot in midnight, and you get fresh memory for a new day.
Any other ideas are welcome!
If you are havign trouble making registry settings place documents and mail on the storage card because boot-up doesn't find the card fast enough, then maybe soft reset will help.
I will try. Thanks.
Well, I believe CeleTask free memory function is more than sufficient
You didn't understand me, but I think I was wrong anyway.
There are times when you try to place certain system folders on Storage. But when phone boots, it tries to write that data before it recognises the storage card, so it creates the folder in system memory again (I think in Application Data instead of original location).
My thought was that if you could make a registry change immediately effective without theneed for a bood sequence, you could have your data on the storage card.
However, recent reading tells me that for registry settings to take effect, the system needs to be powered down. So no good.
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Well, I believe CeleTask free memory function is more than sufficient
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+1 for CeleTask
And it also has the great Tools/Reboot shortcut
I have the TyTn and when I goto remove programs I see no programs in the list? I even tried a soft reset but still an empty list? The weird thing is that all the programs are visible with "Remove Software" in Pocket Mechanic. Anybody have any clue what is causing this?
I have all my programs on my storage card and the card seem to be fine. After further testing, I seem not to be able to install any programs now at all? I have plenty of space on the card but programs will not install to the phone memory either and plenty of space there also?
I am trying to avoid a HARD RESET.
have you tried removing pocket mechanic? maybe it is messing with your installations?
i had similar prob. with MPx200, although i think following may help:
1. go to /window/appmgr
2. move(copy-delete after) all folders & files somewhere(i.e. Storage Card/appmgr) except folder with name of prog U wanna uninstall
3. try to uninstall it
let me know if it works
Thanks for the replies. I decided to restore a backup to see if that would solve my little mystery and it did. I might have been toooo confident when I used Pocket Mechanic to clean the system by deleting everything that showed up in the list!? If this does happen again I will try what is mentioned above thanks.
This also happen with my wizard but i think because something corrupted the registry or the memory but after that activesync would only allow me to make a partnership as a guest and woudl say samething was wrong. i just reflashed my wizard and it fixed it but i think it could of been fixed by just hard reseting.
hi all.
I am in serious trouble and i need help. i realized i did not have outlook, thus my contacts are all gone.
I had tried to update my software earlier by installing some .cab file. It was a file for my HTC home. The installation was 'successful', however after i did a reset ( they prompt me to ) i could not boot up my phone. It get hanged once it got to my wallpaper, and i cant tap or press anything. The htc home screen also does not come out.
=(
any kind souls?
So something is hanging right after windows boots... did you try to install HTC Home to a storage card? Try booting with the storage card out.
thanks for the prompt reply. i tried, however it never seems to work. I am using a HTC TYTN ii. running on windows 6.1
I did install it on a storage card. i tried means like switching on without memory card, sim card and did a million resets, but it doesnt seem to work.. =(
Actually i install the HTC Home was because the message counter on the HTC Home got screwed up. it showed 1 unread no although i had all messages read. but anyway, for now, tht's not my main concern.. =(
thanks all in advance ..
I guess I do not understand all of your issues besides the freezing at boot.
A hard reset should be an option, if you're ok with that... and then for the future, use sprite and pim backup to make sure you don't lose too much data.
Try searching the forum for threads like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320689
What caused you to lose your contacts?
my contacts are all saved in the phone, and it wasnt back up cause i am not using microsoft outlook.. and lets say i want to do a hard reset, how to do it?
and how do i do a soft reset with my phone.
Is there anyway that i can actually do a SAFE mode boot up? but my phone keeps getting hanged at start up. i dunno if its because it cant bring up a pin enter mode where I need to key in my pin each time i boot up.
0) What version of ROM were you using?
HTC TYTN ii
1) Applications installed when it happened
HTC HOME (old version ) i d/led and used HTC Diamond home, then it got screwed up cause the unread messages kept showing 1, although all messages were read. i thus wanted to reinstall the HTC home.
2) Radio ROM version (2.19.21, 2.47.21, etc...)
NONE
3) Device model (dopod 818, imate etc...)
HTC TYTN II
4) Device version (G3 or G4)
Windows 6.1?
5) How long it was since last hard reset (1 day,6 hours, etc..)
I never did a hard reset. how do i do it
6) Approx how many soft resets you already made (1-5, 5-10 10-15, etc...)
Soft refers to poking the reset button, would be more than 20 times after this issue
7) Approx how many shutdowns you already made (holding power button for 4+ seconds)
more than 10 times.
8) any other significant info you think will help:
My contacts are not saved syn with my com as i do not have windows outlook.
9) Do you have the HTC Homeplug today plugin enabled?
10) have you populated your PIM apps via pimbackup or via activesync?
11) Do you have the "HTC_default" today theme enabled?
yes.
for now, i cant boot up. the screen will hang at my wallpaper. i cant seem to press or click anything after that. My pin start up prompt does not apear too. please help =(
depressed ivy.
Sorry, but I'm pretty sure you need an app to use safe mode. You might need to loose your contacts, but don't give up... research and you might find an answer.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The%20Safe%20Mode%20Bible
And if you've already tried booting without a sim and storage card, you might need to hard reset, which is easy enough after reading the wiki.
e.g. press both softkeys while resetting, or you could even flash a new rom via sd card by naming the .nbh file KAISIMG.nbh and putting it on your storage card root directory.
Read the wiki before you make any decisions and good luck, good news is your phone sounds like it's fine, just install a safe mode program next time.
Hi. I did research like wht you adviced, i managed to log into bootloader mode, i downloaded MTTY program and got my phone to the USB mode. I like to ask the following:
1) can i retrieve and save my contacts as i saved them all in my phone and none in my sim card?
2) Wht can i do next as I'm badly stuck at the HTC home page with only my wallpaper, i cant click on any buttons.
Thanks in advance to all.
I really hope that some GURUs here are able to help solve my terrible situation and i would really appreciate it. My contacts are all save in the phone and i need some help in retrieving it.
Thanks all.
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I really hope that some GURUs here are able to help solve my terrible situation and i would really appreciate it. My contacts are all save in the phone and i need some help in retrieving it.
Thanks all.
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At what exactly point does it freeze?
What is your radio version, it should appear after you turn on the device in red letters on the bottom right.
What is your SPL Version, you should be able to see it from the bootloader?
Dave
Hello friend. When I suggested research, I meant things like this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2732337
I found this thread by clicking search in the top right to use google, and typed "save contacts" which if you've gone into MTTY research (be careful by the way) then you might be able to backup your data.
MY SPL : 3.29.0000
MY radio: 1.65.16.25
When i boot up, i suppose to have some password protect, to enter my pin before there is reception and stuff. For now, I can only see my wallpaper, the start button, contacts and calander buttons.However i cant touch on anything, it just simply hangs there.
SIM card and memory card are off. I tried SYNC, but it says cannot detect device.
=((
asdfgh123 said:
MY SPL : 3.29.0000
MY radio: 1.65.16.25
When i boot up, i suppose to have some password protect, to enter my pin before there is reception and stuff. For now, I can only see my wallpaper, the start button, contacts and calander buttons.However i cant touch on anything, it just simply hangs there.
SIM card and memory card are off. I tried SYNC, but it says cannot detect device.
=((
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By "SYNC" you mean active sync? Try an Actice sync re-install, maybe?
Sounds like this protect stuff is beggared.
Ta
Dave
i meant active sync, it says it cant detect my device. Is there anyway from MTTY, i cant retrieve my contacts?
All this actually happen after i installed .cab file the other day, and the installation was fine and i was prompt to restart. It hanged after that till date. sigh =( I'm desperate.
GURUs,
I cant get my device to go any further than hanging right at the wallpaper of HTC Home, the usb doenst recognize my device, so i cant enter or do any thing.
I just wish to retrieve my contacts now, and do a hard reset on my phone.
Thanks.
If you never saved your contacts from and to your sim card without any kind of backup from outlook or pim, etc. you might be ****e out of luck. Gone from a ****ty samsung to a equally ****ty razr, hermes, and now kaiser with the same sim...Always copy your contacts to the sim; or at least a Backup folder on your desktop or lap. flashing erases the main memory, which of course includes contacts. That's why we have a program called sim manager, to backup contacts everytime we erase our systems. Hope you find a workaround though, as a former Iphone owner, reinputting your contacts is a giant *****
sigh.. does tht means i'm so dead now? I did ever did a PPCPimBackup, but its stored in the phone memory too? any sort of help you can assist?
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sigh.. does tht means i'm so dead now? I did ever did a PPCPimBackup, but its stored in the phone memory too? any sort of help you can assist?
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Possibly, I've tried to get hold of someone who might know, but it's looking grim.
Storage Card backups and Active Sync are the best way to backup.
*DaveShaw closes barn door after the horse has bolted *
Ta
DAve
If I perform a hard reset, what do I loose? what do I keeep? IE I am aware I will loose all the data i hav DLed on it but do I have to reprogram the phone and all?
Here's your answer, copied directly from the TP2 user's manual:
Performing a hard reset
If a normal reset does not solve a system problem, you can perform a hard (full) reset. After a hard reset, the device is restored to its default settings—the way it was when you first purchased it and turned it on. You
will lose any programs you installed, data you entered, and settings you customized on your device, and only Windows Mobile® software and other pre-installed programs will remain.
Warning! Your device will be set back to factory default settings. Make sure that any additional installed programs and/or user data have been backed up before you perform a hard reset.
Important If Encrypt files when placed on a storage card is enabled, backup all files from the storage card before using Clear Storage, hard reset, or updating the operating system. Otherwise you will no longer be able to
access the encrypted files on the storage card. Use ActiveSync or Windows Mobile Device Center to transfer files between your storage card and computer. After the procedure, copy your files back to the storage card.
Thank you for the reply. I have read that (in fact it was the first thing I read, and I as said I understand I will loose my files and what not) and it doesn't answer my question about programing on the verizon network. The reason why I asked is because the programing was a difficult process for several reasons that I wont get into.
Sorry, I wasn't (and still am not) clear about what you mean by "reprogramming". The hard reset leaves you with a phone that is the same as it was when you first opened the box EXCEPT that you do not need to initiate phone service. There are no contacts, no emails, no preference settings, but you can immediately make and receive phone calls. There are some free cabs that you can use to backup much of your data before doing the hard reset. This will reduce some of the pain of losing so much of what you put into the phone before doing the hard reset.
Thanks that does answer my question. When you get a phone you have to go through verizon programming dial *228 before using it. If you dont think i need to do this, then i should be al set
On a hard reset, you will need to dial *228 to activate the phone.
Greetings people!
Yesterday I got this message while booting up my TP (latest official ROM):
"The device is unable to boot because either you have turned off the device incorrectly or tried to install an application from untrusted source. Press END to reset your device or press any other button to cancel. This operation will delete all your personal data and restore the device to its factory default settings"
However apart from that message, phone works flawlessly without any noticable change in speed or stability! The only apparent problem is that it takes a while longer (about 10 seconds) to boot up because of that message. I tried a couple of backups, problem was solved at first, but returned later...
I do take daily backups, but since I hardly monitor my phone when I reset it, this problem could have been caused by an app or reg entry a while ago... and searching for the appropriate backup will be a pain in the ass.
Since there's no change in speed or stability, do you think it would be wise to keep using the phone as is, or is it possible this would cause further problems down the road?
Any other way to troubleshoot it (at least to find the program that's causing this) other than a hard reset?
Edit: couldn't wait so I reverted to a week-old backup, installed back most of my applications, and it seems to be fixed (for now)
Update! I just tried a new SD to try XDAndroid, and guess what, the error disappeared!
So there must be a program I had installed in the storage card, possibly trying to start a service or something on every reset... and failing.
Is there a way to troubleshoot this? Maybe through SKTools or anything similar? I have a ton of apps installed into storage card and it will be a pain in the back cover to try by trial-and-error.
Thank you in advance
edit: inserted my old storage card again, error did not appear, problem solved! At least for now
Still if anyone knows how to troubleshoot this, please let me know
Update: Seems this error occurs every time I use SPB backup.
Yesterday, after a scheduled backup, the error came back. To troubleshoot this, I removed the SD card, did a soft reset, the error was gone! I took another manual backup, and again, the error came back.
So there must be something happening with SPB Backup and my SD card. Probably messing with files on the SD, or the driver or whatever (no idea there, I'm a total noob when it comes to software).
Moved the issue to the SPB forum
I have this message to, but I have never used SPB Backup
Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
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Well, in my case, it was obviously something tampering with the SD card (even if not SPB backup, something else)
Have you tried rebooting your phone with the SD card taken off? I just wait till it boots normally, and then insert it back. Works for me every time.
If that still happens, that probably means whatever is causing the problem is in your main memory.
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Well I tried that just to see what would happen and I did not get the error message. So it is something on the SD card, but booting without it is not an option for me as I have several boot-start apps that are housed on it.
Perhaps one of those apps is broken?
As far as my case goes, I kept on using it for three months after the error appeared, without noticing any lag or issues at all. The only downside was that it took me three minutes to boot up, something I got used to.
If that's no big deal for you, I'd suggest you just leave it as it is for now, and check for lagging or specific applications failing (maybe one of them will be the app that's causing the problem?). If nothing happens down the road I think it could be safe to leave it as it is.
Now, if you can't stand this, I guess the only practical solution would be a hard reset. You can always play around with removing/reinstalling those apps you mention (or even better, installing them in the phone's memory) to check if and which one is broken, but I can understand that this not only will be a huge burden, but you may come to the conclusion that no specific app is causing this and something went south in the OS.
Personally the only apps which include a boot-up service I have installed into my SD are Football Monitor and PocketWeather. I tried removing both of them them back when I first had that issue, it didn't work...
Sorry I couldn't help more :/