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WM 5.0 1.62c.07CHS rom

this new WM 5.0 1.62c.07CHS rom version have been upload to ftp site
/Uploads/Himalaya/Uploads2005/WM5_SDimage_1.62c.00CHS_PS_128RAM_nocert_Hima_SimChinese.rar(SD IMAGE)
or
/Uploads/Himalaya/Uploads2005/WM2k5_1[1].62c.07CHS_XDA2_HIMALAYA_SimChinese.rar(NBF FORMAT)
/Uploads/Himalaya/ActiveSync4.1_build4807.rar(activesync4.1)
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-please use ActiveSync 4.1 or latest
-use it with ur own risk.
-original by buzz_lightyear,toenailed,ljm2020

ljm2020 wrote:
the main improvement is the speed! FASTER
camera application still don't work as should be
there are still no MMS related application and setting...
about the SIM toolkit:
1,there are two shotcuts, one is "SIM Tool Kit" it works, but the another one:"SIM Toolkit" doesn't work, just has no responsed when clicked
about the SIM manager:
You can't fount the shotcuts of it in the program list, but you can copy the phone number to SIM from the contact menu, So I still installed the Asukal SIM Manger.cab
PS:the clock program is changed I think, see the sceenshot of Today
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Hi Chewziqin,
Do you get the Ramdisk work?
I tried few times, but every time after reset, it become blank.

what's the ftp full path?I can't got it....

take a look here ,FTP site.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
i dint try the ram disk yet

Can dopod 575 use this rom ??
Can dopod 575 use this rom ??

Re: Can dopod 575 use this rom ??
blackbear_cn said:
Can dopod 575 use this rom ??
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no , only for xdaii

oh!faint!
Thanks!
Where can find wm5.0 rom that is for dopod 575?

Code:
pschoch wrote:
For all noobies wondering which WM5 ROM to use:
Code:
ROM PS Storage Program ExtROM Ramdisk
------------------------------------------------------------
1.50i.32 NO 96MB 32MB 16MB None
1.50i.64 NO 64MB 64MB 16MB None
1.50i.96 NO 32MB 96MB 16MB None
1.60a YES 14.57MB 120.32MB 16MB None
1.60a YES 30.xxMB 120.32MB None None*
1.60b.96 YES 14.57MB 88.33MB 16MB 31.42MB
1.60b.96 YES 30.xxMB 88.33MB None 31.42MB*
1.60c.00 YES 14.57MB 120.32MB 16MB None
1.60c.00 YES 30.xxMB 120.32MB None None*

i din try any ram disk

sos! i can not download it
plz send it or it's url to me
thx
msn:[email protected]
email:[email protected]
QQ:115667376

OK 了
download all night ,so get wm5 chs from http://buzzdev.net
thx again

Plz guys we need a full English translation for this version
THANKS

I have something wrong with the Sync...it can connect...but just can't sync....

just use the latest active sync,look at microsoft home page.
or
just soft reset n connect again

Hi, Thanks for the reply. BTW I'm also using the latest ActiveSync... i did the both way as well..but still cannot..
Is that anything to do with Chinese ROM and Outlook 2003? Cause when I sync..the ActiveSync show ??? at the Contact

Blue Angel
does this rom work for Blue Agnel device (PH20B)? Thanks.

kli said:
does this rom work for Blue Agnel device (PH20B)? Thanks.
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it only work for himalaya

Greetings, I m new in flashing ROM. Can teach me how to upgrade my Himalaya from WM2003SE to WM2005? I m not sure abt the steps.
Thx in advance.

Bro..u should do some searching........before u ask..

OLTP's rom upgrade & BIG Storage guide

Hi all,
Almost everytime I check the forum I see a lot of rom upgrade & BIG Storage questions. Apparently not everyone is familiar with the wiki and search options on the board. That's a shame cause almost all the questions are answered in the already existing threads. So why a new thread about the same topic?
1. I'm chauvinistic and want my name on the board ;-)
2. To aggregate a part of my knowledge in one place for easy access.
3. To promote the wiki
- So if you tried to upgrade your rom and got an error 120: follow this description http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade
- If you failed in upgrading your rom somehow & now you're stuck in the bootloader: just make sure usb connections are allowed in Active Sync, connect your magician with usb to your PC and run the rom upgrade program again.
Sometimes it helps at this stage to downgrade ActiveSync to version 3.8 (see the post from benenglish).
- If you need to go to bootloader for any reason (including incorrect rom upgrade) press 'camera, power and soft-reset' all at the same time for some seconds, till your screen fades and reads: Serial V1.0x. When you connect it to usb it should read ' usb V1.0x
- If you want to change the language from your magician (not including from or to Greek, cause those roms and devices are protected), just use http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade again.
- If you want to flash your magician with a charmer or any other rom, please don't you will loose your device when you kill your bootloader and that's very likely to happen while flashing a not suitable rom.
- Want a WWE BIG Storage rom the easy way? Follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade and download ftp://xda:[email protected]_NK.nbf/BIG_Storage_nk_for_rom_1.13WWE.zip This NK.nbf is patched for BIG Storage, you only need to put it in the directory with the extracted shipped-rom.
- Want a BIG Storage rom in any language the easy way? Download a shipped-rom from the ftp or any telco and follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade
- Want to get BIG Storage via a SD Card flash, read it here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianSDflash
- Don't know what BIG Storage is? It is your ext-rom (with the operator customization cabs) exchanged for a larger internal Storage folder. So remember to backup those cabs before upgrading.
- When you want to revert from BIG Storage to the original Storage and ext-rom combination, make sure you put > 8MB data in your Storage folder before flashing it back with a normal rom. Otherwise you'll loose your Storage folder completely :-(. Seems that this might be a solution & doesn't work for everyone. Try it if reverting with empty \Storage folder isn't successful.
Any questions left, I guess so. Now don't be scared and put them on the board, nobody is going to eat you (at least not straight away) and someone will answer.
But remember that when this topic is still visible in the first page of this board I will probably stop answering new threads about BIG Storage and rom upgrading questions, I've done that for 5 months now and I'm starting to loose my interest.
Regards, M
Ps If you're really stuck in a rom upgrade & can't get it working, last resort is to pinpoint me to a location where I can download your rom-dump or the shipped-rom & I can prepare it for you. All it takes is a cup of coffee on my, for now, virtual world trip. Got Italy, Cyprus, Argentina, Asia, UK, Germany, Belgium, Greece, Turkey & US allready. So if you're living in any other country, especially Indonisia, Australia or New Zealand, be my guest.

Great job OLTP..

Your the man :lol:

- If you failed in upgrading your rom somehow & now you're stuck in the bootloader: just make sure usb connections are allowed in Active Sync, connect your Magician with usb to your PC and run the rom upgrade program again.
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AND USE ACTIVESYNC 3.8
My upgrade was stuck at this stage - removed Activesync 4.0 - Installed 3.8 and ran the firmware update again - its now "Upgrade Radio Stack - Please wait" with the progress bar going along on the screen.
Hope this helps

I've heard/read more complaints about Act.Sync 4.0. Though 4.0 is working flawless on my side, every contribution that works is valuable information. I updated the first post with it.
Thanks

Big storage
I did a big storage for my Mini by using a copy of my rom, changing the bytes as told in the guide to upgrading with a HEX Editor. I have installed programs to new storage gained but my main memory is showing very little memory. I have no programmes installed in main memory. What should I do now ?

How much memory have you got free. I got now, on my fully loaded device, 9.6MB storage & 22.5MB program memory occupied.
Did you happen to load all the cabs you copied from your ext-rom again? Those cabs install in RAM.
Cheers, M

stotage lost
pls help... i lost my storage when i flash my mini in my stock shipped rom i followed instruction of olps to soted data at least 8mb of files but it didnt works still lost my storage...
how can i back it again..is there any hope?..
thanks

First thing to do is to load the BIG Storage rom again. This should give you back the \Storage folder.
Now did you use the same rom version for BIG Storage as your original rom version? Some do claim it needs to be at least the same country version.
So pls try to revert to the same version only without BS & you can always try with an empty \Storage folder.
Seems that some tricks work out different on several devices.
Good luck, M

First thing to do is to load the BIG Storage rom again. This should give you back the \Storage folder.
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thanks i got my storage is back...
Now did you use the same rom version for BIG Storage as your original rom version? Some do claim it needs to be at least the same country version.
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yes i flash it wid the same version i followed the instruction on your post to be able to back the extended rom..
ill try again for the 2nd time...ill post if i succed
many thanks oltp

Can I upgrade my Mda compact 2 also with a sd-card like the compact ?
When I make a hardreset with the card in the slot, i cannot chosse to install from sd-card.

That's something I don't know. Try one of the board's for WM5 devices like the Wizard. Maybe you can find your info there.
Success, M
[edit] could you append it here too pls, if you find it?

Hi OLTP,
Right now I have 8.04mb free in storage memory (big hack). In MAIN memory around 3.10 mb in program memory (in use 23.47 mb). Storage (main) - in use 28.29 mb and free 2.55 mb. This keeps going less and less so from time to time as I use and close programs. So I keep doing a soft reset. I get critical memory short error. What do I do.
Should I flash with my saved original ROM (the one I had before doing the hack) and then immediately flash the saved Big Rom ? Please let me know. You are the Guru.

@ Galahad: What kind of software did you install after the update? & how's the memory pressure right after a hard-reset (don't forget to make a proper backup first)?
Do you use cabinstl to install cabs to another location then 'default' (which is RAM)? & tell Act.Sync to install to Storage or Storage Card, otherwise your RAM will be used up very soon.
My advice no need to reflash right now, a hard-reset should be sufficient to see what is causing your prob.
M

After the hack I had installed couple of commercial software, all into storage memory thru active sync which prompts you where you want to install. I choose storage memory (26.92). I keep doing this for all the commercial software I need to install. When I finished doing this I had 6 mb free. so far so good. Then I started installing cabs files from Ext Rom copy on harddisk, with cabinst. These were smart dial cab, O2 connect and a few other (which I thought necessary) cab files. These too I installed into storage memory. If my memory serves me right, I started experiencing a sudden slide down in memory after this. Before this I had around 25 mb memory free. Then suddenly the slide down in memory. In fact Resco today plug in shows me the dramatic slidedown as if the memory is getting sucked down a black hole.
I will do a hard reset as suggested by you and then load my software into storage memory. This time I will not install cab files from Ext Rom. Is that OK ?

Your O2 software is def. causing your probs. If you need some apps from it, try WinCECabManager. With it you can see which files are stored where on your device. After cab installation you can move them to eg. \Storage\Windows & change all links & reg keys referring to those files. Or change tea cab-file of course. It can take some time, but ves a huge amount of RAM.
M

Thanks ! I will try your suggestion. Have never used WINceCab Manager. Hope it is not too technical.

Not for me, it's a bit like explorer. But then again I'm not standard.

Some good news !
Like I said, I had around 24 mb free memory after the big storage hack (after installing all applications, whether in storage memory or storage card).
The good news is that all my FREE MEMORY has come back. Don't know really how it happened. I was using my blue tooth device which I switched thru the icon on the screen bottom right.
In error I touched the icon to rotate screen orientation. When I finally got my orientation correctly, I also got all my lost memory.
IMAGINE THAT !
Thanks for all your quick responses and great help you gave me. I will surely emulate you helping ways.

oltp said:
Hi all,
- Want a WWE BIG Storage rom the easy way? Follow http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade and download ftp://xda:[email protected]_NK.nbf/BIG_Storage_nk_for_rom_1.13WWE.zip This NK.nbf is patched for BIG Storage, you only need to put it in the directory with the extracted shipped-rom.
But remember that when this topic is still visible in the first page of this board I will probably stop answering new threads about BIG Storage and rom upgrading questions, I've done that for 5 months now and I'm starting to loose my interest.
Regards, M
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Dear OLTP, I am not able to find the patched nk.nbf on the ftp. Kindly check it is not there.
When I use nbfdec.exe for decoding the NK.nbf it gives me crc error and the decoding fails. whereas with the same set of NK.nbf,ms.nbf and radio.nbf I have success fully upgraded my magician to WWE1.13 with radio1.13 Kindly help

SOLVED- EXT-ROM Unlock & UnHide - 2.xx

after few days of playing around, then found a solution to WRITE to Ext-ROM which persists after soft-reset.
All praise and thanks are to God the Most High.
Here is the solution; Tested for prophet ROM2.15.13.27 -G4 but should work for over chipsets and even other handsets e.g Wizard
To Unhide Ext-ROM --- (this is already known by most- but include for completeness)
Need following registry changes:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\StorageManager \AutoLoad\TRUEFFS_DOC1
"Bootphase"=dword:2
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\StorageManager \Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1
"MountHidden"=dword:0
To Rename EXT-ROM
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\StorageManager \Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1
"Folder"=string:Storage
--- can call it anything you like instead of "Storage"
To Unlock the EXT-ROM
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"SoftwareWriteProtect" =Dword:0
THIS key is the mainchange that will enable write protect, but it keeps reverting after softreset. To get around this, will need to change the following also.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"AutoDPDMode"=Dword:0
Then Softreset.
Now should be able to write and install to Ext-ROM/Storage
If any problem can return the last key to original value
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"AutoDPDMode"=Dword:1
-----not sure what this key does??
then soft reset again.
this worked for me . try at own risk!!
Enjoy
All praise and thanks are to God the Most High
AbuYAHYA
Ps. let me know if it works or not for you...if anyone wants to make a Cab file then would be helpful

did any1 try this??

Works!!
Yes it works flawlessly....
Thanks
FeiYu

Not On The Wizard
That's a very old and known trick.
But: it does not work on the Wizard !
Prophet, etc. all OK
Cheers
hrb

Does that mean that i can install a dutch rom, by downgrading my G4 device.
Hopefully it does.
Cheers

Hello,
i installed the AKU 2.3 Rom "2006-10-14_Upgrade_Rom_lvsw_edition.exe" and don't habe these entrys in my registry:
AbuYahya said:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\StorageManager \Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1
"MountHidden"=dword:0
To Unlock the EXT-ROM
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"SoftwareWriteProtect" =Dword:0
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AbuYahya said:
THIS key is the mainchange that will enable write protect, but it keeps reverting after softreset. To get around this, will need to change the following also.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"AutoDPDMode"=Dword:0
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this key is in my device at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS1
"AutoDPDMode"=Dword:1
is it the same key?
thanks
John

John-Wu said:
Hello,
i installed the AKU 2.3 Rom "2006-10-14_Upgrade_Rom_lvsw_edition.exe" and don't habe these entrys in my registry:
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I instaled the same ROM so abit strange you don't have writeprotect key. Possible options maybe perform backup and hard reset and then recheck for the latter key....Or....just make the keys.
I think I added this key also myself but not 100% sure.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \System\StorageManager \Profiles\TRUEFFS_DOC1
"MountHidden"=dword:0
As for writeprotect key then try adding. if the dword remain at 0 after soft reset then should work. if not try changing the Dword for AutoDPDMode form 1 to 0, aswell as the softwarewriteprotect key as below
To Unlock the EXT-ROM
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"SoftwareWriteProtect" =Dword:0
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"AutoDPDMode"=Dword:0
hopefully should work.
Abu Yahya

add to wiki
hrb said:
That's a very old and known trick.
But: it does not work on the Wizard !
Prophet, etc. all OK
Cheers
hrb
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sorry to hear it doesn't work on Wizard.
If it was well known then maybe some-one should add it to the WIKI page. As several have asked how on a few threads with no replies both here and BUZZdev.net.
Abu yahya

doesnt work on my Jamin with the 16Mb_AKU2.3_GSM02.30.21_Extrom-4PDA.ru.exe rom
I had to use buzz's unlock tool to let me write to my extended rom.

I have upgraded to the PDAMobiz 16MB ROM. Unhiding the extrom via the registry entries work. But unlocking it doesn't.
I too do not have HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1 key. So, I manually created it with the entries as posted, but it didn't work. (yes I did a soft reset after shutting down for 30s or so).
I then proceeded to go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS1 and change the "AutoDPDMode" to 0, and SoftwareWriteProtect to 0. There are 3 such keys: TrueFFS, TrueFFS1 & TrueFFS2. I changed all 3.
Unfortunately, it still didn't work...
But Buzz's unlocker prog worked. It didn't before when I was using the official Dopod ROM.

To every body !
I've update my rom to RUU-Prophet-G4-AKU2.2-2.20-2.47.21-Jester-r1.exe. when finished, the extended rom can't use. Change reg not work. So when i lock up at the rom "AKU2.3.1_LvsW_Edition_2006-11-28" i find there're 2 files : extunlock.exe and UnlockExtRom.cab. Run 2 files and finally i can use extended rom with no restrict.
My device is O2 Neo. Hope this usefull for some one

Would you please be so kind and upload these two files to the ftp? I'd like to try if it works with the last original QTEK-ROM.
Thank you

hi all.
've been reading some very interesting things in the forum the last few days.
i think you re great.
As far as:
Show extended ROM: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:2
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:0
Hide extended ROM:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\AutoLoad\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "Bootphase"=dword:1
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\Profiles\ TRUEFFS_DOC1] "MountHidden"=dword:1
they work ok for me with 2.9.7.24 wwe ROM
2.9.7.8009 extROM
(IPL&SPL 2.09.0001)
after soft reset i can see Extended_ROM2 on my file explorer.
when i check the file properties with resco file explorer all files inside extended_rom folder are read only(which can be changed of course).
so i can easily modify the cab files inside the extended rom along with config.txt entries.
last, changing all files to read only, reverting the registry keys to hide ext_rom
and hard reset.

crazyd said:
Would you please be so kind and upload these two files to the ftp? I'd like to try if it works with the last original QTEK-ROM.
Thank you
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You can load "AKU2.3.1_LvsW_Edition_2006-11-28.exe", then right click to this file, select "extract to ..." to get these files hope this work on your !!

Great, it works again! Thank you for your help.

could you please to upload just two files ( extunlock.exe and UnlockExtRom.cab.) only, cause my connection is very slow for getting "complete packet rom".thx

Here you are!

Thaks bro, but still can't edit/delete my ext rom,
one more question, is this ROM can work with Simtolkit App?

Have tried the two files but I still can't install to ExtRom. It says ExtRom2 on my Dopod 818 Pro G3. Currently having more problems with syncing. Ay advise?

AbuYahya said:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers\Builtin\TRUEFFS _DOC1
"AutoDPDMode"=Dword:0
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I found the following document about the Trueffs file system.
Download the following document http://www.mobilediskonchip.com/NR/....pdf|Installing_TrueFFS_for_Win_CE_Rev4.7.pdf
The AutoDPDMode parameter is described on page 12 as:
“AutoDPDMode”: This option enables Auto Deep Power-Down mode, which reduces the
average power consumption of DiskOnChip. Auto mode puts DiskOnChip in Deep Power-Down
mode automatically after each driver command, and takes DiskOnChip out of Deep
Power-Down mode automatically when the driver is called again. Using this mode disables the
option of booting from DiskOnChip via software reset, as the IPL cannot be accessed from Deep
Power-Down mode. In order to boot from a DiskOnChip device in Deep Power-Down mode, a
hardware reset or powering off is required. This registry entry has no effect on DiskOnChip
devices that do not support Deep Power-Down mode.
dword:1
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Looks to me that AutoDPDMode has nothing to do with the write protection of the Extended ROM...
Regards,
--eluth.

WM5 Memory Map

Hi guys (and gals)
First, thanks to c_shekhar for the Himalaya WM5 roms. Top Job
I'm quite new to WM5 and it has taken a little while for me to work out
how the XDA memory usage has changed from older PocketPC versions.
I thought I'd share how I think it looks for others, like me, who are using WM5
for the first time, thanks to the great ROMS on this site.
I've probably got bits of this wrong. Feel free to correct me
1st we need to understand what memory is in an XDAII:
128MB RAM (non-volatile after soft reset | volatile after hard reset)
32MB Flash ROM - Integrated with CPU (non-volatile after soft or hard reset)
32MB Flash ROM - Disk On Chip (DOC) (non-volatile after soft or hard reset) *
* All or part of this will get formatted if you select YES on the FORMAT STORAGE option on hard reset on WM5
The 32MB DOC Flash Rom is divided into two 16MB partitions by default:
Half goes to extROM
Half goes to persistant storage
Pre WM5 the memory map looked like this:
PRE WM5 - MEMORY MAP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
...................| Storage (Installed Program Files, My Docs etc
128MB RAM.| Programs (running apps)
...................| Pocket PC OS (i.e. running state)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
32MB Flash / CPU..| System ROM (i.e. where the ROM .nbf goes) (/Windows folder?)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
16MB Flash DOC.| extROM (hidden by default. Contains vendor specific apps / hard reset - system startup)
16MB Flash DOC.| Persistant Storage (/Storage folder on pre WM5)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pre WM5 pocketPC versions allowed you to dynamically select the amount
of (non-persistant) storage / Program space via the memory applet. Obviously
a hard reset would lose any programs installed into this RAM area of memory. Also the file system had a /Storage folder so you knew where to put impotant files that a hard reset wouldn't wipe out.
Things have all changed with WM5. Thus: (Based on c_shekhar 3.50a ROM)
WM5 - MEMORY MAP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
...................| 37MB Programs (running apps)
...................| 40MB RAMDisk Storage (Non persistant storage /RAMdisk folder)
128MB RAM.| 24MB PagePool (PocketPC OS Cache ares (?))
...................| 27MB Pocket PC OS (i.e. running state)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
32MB Flash / CPU | System ROM (i.e. where the ROM .nbf goes) (/Windows folder?)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
16MB Flash DOC.| extROM (hidden by default. Contains vendor specific apps / hard reset - system startup)
16MB Flash DOC.| Persistant Storage (14MB Formatted space)**
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
** WM5 no longer has a /Storage folder. Now /My Document /Program Files etc
reside in this persistant area
Obviously one benefit to this re-arrangement is that a hard reset does not wipe
out your installed program, assuming you don't FORMAT STORAGE in the WM5 hard reset screen.
If you are using c_shekhar's ROM then the extROM area is not used. In fact its
probably is sitting there invisible to you with the old pre WM5 vendor apps wasting space. There are tools to make this 16MB partition visible and merge it into the existing 16MB DOC partition to give you 32MB of persistant storage.
Instructions >here<
To check how much storage space you have:
Start>>Settings>>System Tab>>Memory
Storage Total will be circa 14.60MB for standard Install
Storage Total will be circa 30.53MB for merged extROM modification
There are also ways to change the size of the PagePool and RAMdisk but they are not discussed here. Search for c_shekhar + PagePool + RAMdisk
I hope this has been helpful
Please post any corrections, or further useful info
Regards
S_F

sawyer_family said:
Hi guys (and gals)
I hope this has been helpful
Please post any corrections, or further useful info
Regards
S_F
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very helpful indeed
thanks for all the research

Sorry to ask you silly questions... I am a newbie about PDA. And I stil didn't understand clearly concerning why extROM exist in PDA.
1. What is the real function extROM ?
2. I read from your writing, If I used c_shekhar rom it means extROM doesn't have any function anymore. Is it true ?
3. What are the risks if I merge extROM to storage ?
I hope you would like to be kind to explained this for me.
Regards
Selangkahlagi

Well..
selangkahlagi said:
Sorry to ask you silly questions... I am a newbie about PDA. And I stil didn't understand clearly concerning why extROM exist in PDA.
1. What is the real function extROM ?
2. I read from your writing, If I used c_shekhar rom it means extROM doesn't have any function anymore. Is it true ?
3. What are the risks if I merge extROM to storage ?
I hope you would like to be kind to explained this for me.
Regards
Selangkahlagi
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...again I could be wrong here, and c_shekhar would know more about his ROM, but I think the general idea was:
1. XDA Manufacturer (i.e. HTC) provides main system ROM i.e. the pocketpc OS
2. The network supplier, or distributer (e.g. O2) provide the extROM ROM
Then when you hard boot the OS loads and autoruns and installs the branded
applications from the extROM to give you a clean branded install after a hard boot.
The extROM is readonly and invisible so you don't mess it up and can always
get back to the standard installation O2 or other supplier provided in the box.
My understanding is it is only used during a hard boot to install branded apps.
If you decide to install a ROM like c_shekhar's then he installs all the software
you need into the main system ROM. He doesn't use extROM to provide any
other applications that would install on a hard boot. In fact I assume he
takes out any call to the autorun in extROM which is why there are no app loads
when you hard boot his ROMs.
So you have a choice. Leave extROM alone and let 16MB of nonvolatile flash
rom sit there with O2 apps you'll probably never use again. Or, merge it into
the 16MB of storage space and get circa 32mb or storage.
There are always risks from flashing a pda device and messing about with flash
memory, especially from a non-official source. But then there are huge benefits from
c_shekhar providing us with a fantastic WM5 ROM that we otherwise wouldn't
have.
Hope this is correct and helpful.
S_F

What Needs To Be Done?
Dear all ,After upgarding rom of Shekhar My device stopped Reading MMC And SD card,unfortunately till now i have not get any reply about this issue ,can some one help me outof it ?
Require help >>>>>>>>
Thanks In advance.

creations_31 said:
Dear all ,After upgarding rom of Shekhar My device stopped Reading MMC And SD card,unfortunately till now i have not get any reply about this issue ,can some one help me outof it ?
Require help >>>>>>>>
Thanks In advance.
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Wrong thread to be asking in. But SD slot works ok on my XDA with 3.50a.40CS
I'd suggest you go back to an official ROM version and verify its not a hardware fault.

sawyer_family said:
...again I could be wrong here, and c_shekhar would know more about his ROM, but I think the general idea was:
1. XDA Manufacturer (i.e. HTC) provides main system ROM i.e. the pocketpc OS
2. The network supplier, or distributer (e.g. O2) provide the extROM ROM
Then when you hard boot the OS loads and autoruns and installs the branded
applications from the extROM to give you a clean branded install after a hard boot.
The extROM is readonly and invisible so you don't mess it up and can always
get back to the standard installation O2 or other supplier provided in the box.
My understanding is it is only used during a hard boot to install branded apps.
If you decide to install a ROM like c_shekhar's then he installs all the software
you need into the main system ROM. He doesn't use extROM to provide any
other applications that would install on a hard boot. In fact I assume he
takes out any call to the autorun in extROM which is why there are no app loads
when you hard boot his ROMs.
So you have a choice. Leave extROM alone and let 16MB of nonvolatile flash
rom sit there with O2 apps you'll probably never use again. Or, merge it into
the 16MB of storage space and get circa 32mb or storage.
There are always risks from flashing a pda device and messing about with flash
memory, especially from a non-official source. But then there are huge benefits from
c_shekhar providing us with a fantastic WM5 ROM that we otherwise wouldn't
have.
Hope this is correct and helpful.
S_F
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Good Sutdy and informations for the newbees. appriciations for sawyer_family. There exists the autorun program for installing the third party S/Ws and configurations at the time of hard reset developed by buzz. But, I have not provided it in the ROM. It can install the S/Ws and configurations from the resrve space into the RAM just like it used to be with the ExtROM. Here the advantage is that ExtROM can be placed on the Storage card. Like I am using it on my device to install the third party S/Ws and all the stuff at the time of hard reset. I have placed all these stuff in folder called "Storage Card/ExtROM". May be I provide it in my next release If people require. ......

c_shekhar said:
Good Sutdy and informations for the newbees. appriciations for sawyer_family. There exists the autorun program for installing the third party S/Ws and configurations at the time of hard reset developed by buzz. But, I have not provided it in the ROM. It can install the S/Ws and configurations from the resrve space into the RAM just like it used to be with the ExtROM. Here the advantage is that ExtROM can be placed on the Storage card. Like I am using it on my device to install the third party S/Ws and all the stuff at the time of hard reset. I have placed all these stuff in folder called "Storage Card/ExtROM". May be I provide it in my next release If people require. ......
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Nice idea c_shekhar, it is a brillian idea to put extROM in storage card. It will safe much place in ROM. I will waiting your work mate !!!!

sawyer_family said:
...again I could be wrong here, and c_shekhar would know more about his ROM, but I think the general idea was:
1. XDA Manufacturer (i.e. HTC) provides main system ROM i.e. the pocketpc OS
2. The network supplier, or distributer (e.g. O2) provide the extROM ROM
Then when you hard boot the OS loads and autoruns and installs the branded
applications from the extROM to give you a clean branded install after a hard boot.
The extROM is readonly and invisible so you don't mess it up and can always
get back to the standard installation O2 or other supplier provided in the box.
My understanding is it is only used during a hard boot to install branded apps.
If you decide to install a ROM like c_shekhar's then he installs all the software
you need into the main system ROM. He doesn't use extROM to provide any
other applications that would install on a hard boot. In fact I assume he
takes out any call to the autorun in extROM which is why there are no app loads
when you hard boot his ROMs.
So you have a choice. Leave extROM alone and let 16MB of nonvolatile flash
rom sit there with O2 apps you'll probably never use again. Or, merge it into
the 16MB of storage space and get circa 32mb or storage.
There are always risks from flashing a pda device and messing about with flash
memory, especially from a non-official source. But then there are huge benefits from
c_shekhar providing us with a fantastic WM5 ROM that we otherwise wouldn't
have.
Hope this is correct and helpful.
S_F
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Thany you sawyer_family, you help me much to understand this topic.

[UPG]PagePool Smart Changer

Hello!
I bring to your attention a small script to change the size of PagePool directly on the device.
The script allows to replace the size PagePool From 2.00 to 16.00th mbyte without a reflash of the device and loss of data.
After work of a script it is enough to make a soft reset to the device.
In a script is implemented the algorithm of automatic search of the address of offset and check result of search with use of check value on algorithm MD5 . In this mode every possible checks are made so much what kill the device practically not possible.
Also there is a possibility of instructions of own displacement of value of the size PagePool In a case when automatic search cannot find out it. In this mode value to the specified address is checked only. And if it not in the range of values of the size PagePool from 2 to 16, script also refuses to make changes to a device insertion.
The script is checked up with several firmwares and devices.
If program can't autodetect offset value of PagePool, generate "dev info"
and provide it to me. Im add your device in autodetection feature.
Thankful in advance for responses about work of a script and the help in perfection of this.
Screenshots and script are applied
P.S. Sorry for bad english
latest version available at ftp://intruder.spb.ru/PPSmartChanger.exe

First of all thank you for your hard work!
I read everywhere about this "PagePool". Can i ask what's this? And which PagePool is more wise to use?
TIA

If I correctly have understood you, I answer
PagePool it is area which it is used by system for caching various information. The size of accessible RAM depends on the size of this area for. As a rule this value selects everyone under itself individually. Someone uses the big programs which is necessary a lot of memory, and someone a much small programms.
As the program allows to change this value without loss of data, it is possible to experiment.
If has worked address autodetection that all it should be good.
If has not worked, I need info about your device and firmware to try add your device to autodetection.

Thanks for this sweet app....
Now I can change the pagepool on the fly... even though I wonder how many times I will actually change it...

You can change the size of PagePool as many times as you need without any limits.
Version updated:
1. Improved method of info retrival from device.
2. Added multidevices support.
3. EXPERIMENTAL: Added support of WM6 on FS LOOX C550 (can't test on device, my device HTC Touch)

So, what would be the best size for the Touch? I know it should be smaller, I've read 4MB somewhere but is that best or at least better than original?

I'm using BatteryStatus with enabled CPUScaler and I noticed when I change the PagePool size to 4 Mb, TCPMP player works on higher frequency (299 MHz, Boost) instead of 247 MHz (Max) with 8 Mb PagePool size.
So if PagePool size is 4 Mb and less we have low productivity.
I found that 6 Mb is good size. The productivity is the same as with 8 Mb and free memory bigger for 2 Mb.

Version updated.

Hi shark... It's not working on my Touch. Firmware using is 1.11707.1B WWE.

Swiftblade said:
Hi shark... It's not working on my Touch. Firmware using is 1.11707.1B WWE.
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Hi! Please use new version and if it not work, build info for me (option in menu) and attach to reply
Latest version can be accessed at ftp://intruder.spb.ru/PPSmartChanger.exe

the link of your app doesn't work anymore...
can you upload it to a different server please.
thanks

It did work on mind.
It said Dump size mis-matched.
Try built Development Information.
It also failed and sais Some **** happened!
Don't know what is next. ROM I used is the 55Meg Big Storage ROM without Extended ROM found in this forum.

jychan28 said:
It did work on mind.
It said Dump size mis-matched.
Try built Development Information.
It also failed and sais Some **** happened!
Don't know what is next. ROM I used is the 55Meg Big Storage ROM without Extended ROM found in this forum.
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Same to me
Please wait while tool locate PagePool setting offset
_______________________________________________________
Started at 10:50:08.39
> Initializing... done
> Reading ROM info... done
> Dumping part of ROM.. ERROR
> Locating PagePool setting. skipped
> Checking MD5. skipped
Finished at 10:50:41.82
_______________________________________________________
Size of dump is mismatch
Press any key to continue . . .
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But building of debug info worked.
Don't know how to contact you at 4PDA.ru since my russian is very rusty (cannot even read any of these words).
So I post the log here
My ROM is1.11.407.1B.GER (original german HTC Touch)

I have the same problem with jychan28
ROM: 1.11.721.2B WWE
Radio Ver: 02.93.90

Hi,
I was wondering how i can change the pagepool size when i'm cooking a rom?
I've been searching and searching but didn't find anything to change the touch's pagepool.
Gr. bram

New version at ftp://intruder.spb.ru/PPSmartChanger.exe

bram_smulders said:
Hi,
I was wondering how i can change the pagepool size when i'm cooking a rom?
I've been searching and searching but didn't find anything to change the touch's pagepool.
Gr. bram
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269

If any **** happens, download new version
It buil development info in C:\PPSCDev.

sorry...
_________________________________
> Checking........7z.exe: No such
file or directory
.. ERROR
Tool might be broken
Execution aborted
Press any key to continue . . .
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the file I downloaded is also only 229kB instead of 295kB of 0.37a

Sorry, it's my fault. Script updated, try again.