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USING STORAGE CARD AS MEMORY

Hey. I'm really new to this forum.. and please excuse me if i'm being ignorant at any time. Just bought a new XDAii Mini and realised that the memory is very less which makes the phone work very slow at time specially if multiple programs are running. So since the memory is only around 60mb or so... can't we utilize the space from our storage memory to work as memory ... basically.. can't the phone use storage memory to work faster... pls advice.
tried searching this forum for answers.. but i gave up.. any help would be appriciated. thanks.

if you've already installed programs i advise a soft reset.
-optionally install the big rom hack to get an extra 20mb of "storage" memory.
-then find a program called cabinstl to re-install all your programs to storage card.
-optionally use a program called memmaid to relocate various large dlls (support files) to storage or storage card.
v

After vijay advise, read this thread and I gurantee U could get at least 35mb free memory space on startup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16785

using MM to move the dll files to storage card, how much memory will that get you and also if hard reset, the dll will be back to main memory, correct?. Thanks :lol:
vijay555 said:
if you've already installed programs i advise a soft reset.
-optionally install the big rom hack to get an extra 20mb of "storage" memory.
-then find a program called cabinstl to re-install all your programs to storage card.
-optionally use a program called memmaid to relocate various large dlls (support files) to storage or storage card.
v
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Which WM5 device has an internal Storage Card like the BA

Hello,
Which of the new HTC devices with WM 5 as an integerated Storage Card like the Blue Angel has one??
I've seen that the Wizard hasn't got one.
We need this to persist some data like cab-files or databases on the device even if a hard reset is performed and we cannot put them into the Extended_Rom due to size limitations of the rom and due to limited access.
Thanks in advance
Markus

Hello Markus.Fritz.
To the best of my knowledge, no HTC device with WM5 has built in storage.
In fact as far as I know only Asus 636 has it of all the WM5 devices.
Here is the reason:
Before WM5 RAM was used for storage and running programs. To protect some data from deletion when battery runs out a lot of devices came with extra flash which was the built in storage.
On WM5 device RAM is only used for running programs and storage memory is flash any way so most manufacturers don't partition it for separate storage.
I am afraid EXT_ROM (which is built in storage only hidden) is your best option. On Jamin/QTEK s200/Prophet it can be hidden/unhidden (with full access) by a simple registry tweak. It's 10MB.

I think he's referring to a storage card port such as the SD Port on the BA.

Which of the new HTC devices with WM 5 as an integerated Storage Card like the Blue Angel has one??
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Sounds to me like the post is about "File store", but Biohead may be right.
In that case, any phone has an SD or mini SD slot.
Jamin which I mentioned earlier has full SD.

No I'm not looking for a SD Card slot.
I'm looking for something similar to the Storage Folder at the Blue Angel
Greets
Markus

levenum said:
Hello Markus.Fritz.
On WM5 device RAM is only used for running programs and storage memory is flash any way so most manufacturers don't partition it for separate storage
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Is there any way to re-partition the device?

To my knowledge, only by using custom ROM.

levenum said:
To my knowledge, only by using custom ROM.
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Where can I find how to build a custom ROM?

Cooked Version without Flashdisk or Storage

Hi!
Is there any cooked version without Flash Disk or Storage so that the major memory can be made available for programs. What I understand that major memory area for Programs can help a lot.
Anybody can guide on this or can help on how to cook a ROM without a Flash Disk / Storage area.
Regards,
Haque

It's already been done.
Try Cotulla ROM.
And please read the first post by Cotulla VERY carefully.

kalya said:
Try Cotulla ROM.
And please read the first post by Cotulla VERY carefully.
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Hi, It's for a G3 device whereas I have O2 Xda Exec G4 device. I'll appreciate if anybody can guide me on to what can be deleted from an available kitchen like Tomal's or any other's to achieve a bare minimum state to run the mobile without the Flashdisk or Storage area.
Looking forward to be helped on this.
Regards,
Haque

Haque said:
Is there any cooked version without Flash Disk or Storage so that the major memory can be made available for programs. What I understand that major memory area for Programs can help a lot.
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Just to qualify that you don't loose any of your program memory to storage or flash disk. i.e., if you get a ROM without storage/flashdisk, you won't have more program memory. The most you can expect on 64MB device is around 30MB free program. By getting vanilla version, this would only increase available space on flash disk (if you have one) - which is determined by the ROM builder. The xtra storage space is also only available as just that.
Best that I can see is luca16thebig's 1.4.5 vanilla with 33.28MB free program memory.

JonMorgan said:
Just to qualify that you don't loose any of your program memory to storage or flash disk. i.e., if you get a ROM without storage/flashdisk, you won't have more program memory. The most you can expect on 64MB device is around 30MB free program. By getting vanilla version, this would only increase available space on flash disk (if you have one) - which is determined by the ROM builder. The xtra storage space is also only available as just that.
Best that I can see is luca16thebig's 1.4.5 vanilla with 33.28MB free program memory.
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Thanx! But the problem with the Luca16thebig's 1.4.5 vanilla is that upon closing the programs it actually does not close the programs and these are visible in Task Manager. I have to manually close the programs from Task Manager. Second, the flash disk size is 22MB approximately, whereas I wanted a version without Flash Disk or Storage and the free available memory should be available for Programs or a portion of that for the Storage. See if you or anybody can guide me on this.
Regards,
Haque

Haque said:
Hi!
Is there any cooked version without Flash Disk or Storage so that the major memory can be made available for programs. What I understand that major memory area for Programs can help a lot.
Anybody can guide on this or can help on how to cook a ROM without a Flash Disk / Storage area.
Regards,
Haque
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Stay tuned on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487384&page=10

Haque said:
upon closing the programs it actually does not close the programs and these are visible in Task Manager. I have to manually close the programs from Task Manager
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WM6 will minimise programs by default. Install WkTask. This is what is used in other ROMs to close programs and give the functionality you are looking for.
Haque said:
I wanted a version without Flash Disk or Storage and the free available memory should be available for Programs or a portion of that for the Storage
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As I said this is incorrect. The 'free memory' will not be available for Programs. If you don't have a Flash Disk or Storage, that memory is simply then not used and not available. Both the Flash Disk and Storage make use of memory that you cannot normally access.

orb3000 said:
Stay tuned on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=487384&page=10
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Hi!, I flashed my O2 XDA EXEC with the WM5 shipped ROM and then upgraded to WM6 Shipped version. I got a Storage area with around 10-12MB space. Upon flashing it to Tomal's WM61, my O2 Xda Exec start showing Flash Disk along with the Storage area. Thus I had around 22MB storage area in the phone apart from the main storage and Program Memory. I don't know if some of this space can be freed to make more room for Memory than the mere storage space. I have gone through the post you pointed out and I had a feeling that the freed space can only be utilized for the storage area and not for the Program Memory.
I am planning to get me O2 Xda Exec's RAM upgraded and hope that will resolve the memory issue.
Regards,
Haque

Haque said:
Hi!, ..... I have gone through the post you pointed out and I had a feeling that the freed space can only be utilized for the storage area and not for the Program Memory.
I am planning to get me O2 Xda Exec's RAM upgraded and hope that will resolve the memory issue.
Regards,
Haque
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you're right, it cannot be used as program memory but as mere storage, at least for now. upgrading your ram will do the trick... . regards

phezthie said:
you're right, it cannot be used as program memory but as mere storage, at least for now. upgrading your ram will do the trick... . regards
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Hi! I was lucky to get hold of a friend, who actually runs a mobile repair workshop, to upgrade the RAM of my O2 Xda Exec by harvesting the RAM from Blue Angel. Now my mobile is with 128MB RAM. The process was hardly a 30 minutes job - removing the two 64MB Memory chips from Blue Angel and replacing the 32MB Memory chips on O2 Xda Exec and then shorting the pins as stated in Uni Memory Upgrade article.
I just wanted to know how much of the storage can be freed from the cooked vanilla or regular version and how?
Regards,
Haque

hi guys..

hi guys..
Is there any way to increase the storage memory beyond 30.53MB ? maybe to merge ramdick ..or anything else..plzzz plz..

Do you have a storage card, some programs can be installed on a storage card, saving you space on your device.
PS What device do you actually have, because that might assist people in responding to your question.

my divce is himalaya( qtek 2020)..
thanx man,i dont like to save programs on my storage card..
hope there is any way to merge ramdisk with storage..
thaaaanx...

program memory on ipaq 6828

Hi!
I want to increase the memory program on my hp ipaq 6828 rw. I have an SD of 8GB installed on it running WM6. These days I'm having problems with programs like Skyfire .. it says.. not enough memory... I wan to know if there is a way to increase program memory by reducing internal storage memory .. I want to use only the SD for storage, no the internal.
Help!
Thank You,

if you have a lot of pics then i suggest moving them
other than that try getting a newer rom which may be a but better at space handling

which rom do u suggest?
-PiLoT- said:
if you have a lot of pics then i suggest moving them
other than that try getting a newer rom which may be a but better at space handling
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Well.. I've move all into my SD card, but, still, I just free the storage memory and not increase the program memory.... so which rom do u suggest? ... is there a program that can adjust the partition of program and storage memory???

jdamianb said:
Well.. I've move all into my SD card, but, still, I just free the storage memory and not increase the program memory.... so which rom do u suggest? ... is there a program that can adjust the partition of program and storage memory???
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Hi,
I guess you'll need to do a search for Schap's Configuration Tool 3.3, and with that app you can change your pagepool. I gues if you can make that 4MB, your problems are gone.
Dirk

dirlan2001 said:
Hi,
I guess you'll need to do a search for Schap's Configuration Tool 3.3, and with that app you can change your pagepool. I gues if you can make that 4MB, your problems are gone.
Dirk
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So what feature from that app do u suggest to use? I've installed it already... But I cant find anything to change pagepool...
Thnx,

jdamianb said:
So what feature from that app do u suggest to use? I've installed it already... But I cant find anything to change pagepool...
Thnx,
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Performances | File system cache : 4 MB (or 8MB if you do heavy stuff)
Dirk