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Does anybody used or tried this device on XDA2/MDA2? How's compatibility with the device to XDA2/MDA2 compared to Tom Tom? The features look promising! check it out on their website: www.alk.com
I use CoPilot Live 4 on my XDA II. I use to run it on my XDA with a hardwired (permanent and hidden) GPS receiver. I now use it with my XDA II and the Socket Bluetooth GPS receiver. It works great. It is very intuitive and easy to use. Also, the Socket GPS receiver has an external antenna connection so I hacked into my Chevy Tahoe's OnStar GPS antenna and it works great and is always on and out of sight, but I can easily open up the console and take it with me, fully charged.
Highly recommended.
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superperry said:
Does anybody used or tried this device on XDA2/MDA2? How's compatibility with the device to XDA2/MDA2 compared to Tom Tom? The features look promising! check it out on their website: www.alk.com
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I use the European database version with BT GPS (Socket) and after installing Towa's BT fix, it works like a charm. Highly recommended.
I even tried it on the motorbike with BT GPS receiver in my jacket pocket and XDA II with headphones. It works, but there was alot of wind noise. I am seriously considering buying one of those Sony active noise reducing headphones to use on the bike.
Ottoman.
Hi!
I have browsed through the board and some websites concering GPS kits for the XDAII and I am even more confused than before.
Can anybody give me a suggestion about which GPS Device works good with the XDAII and which card software is to be preferred?
I want to use my XDAII as a navigation system in my car and I am from germany (if that does matter somehow).
Thanks alot!
Dominik
Hi,
I would say: Emtac Bluetooth GPS Receiver...
http://www.emtac.com/
This one is really great!
Combine this with XDA II + Bluetooth Tools + Emtac BTGPS is the best solution for GPS...
Greetings,
Sam
Navman 4410
navman 4410 with bluetooth gps receiver, works perfect,
BUT if you go for the fixed version, go for the t-mobile carkit for €199,- to get from the german t-mobie stores, this is the BEST DEAL arround. you get the carkit, plus the sat-nav software, plus the gps receiver.
OK its build in, but a very strong deal
If you have a BT gps do you still not have to plug it in to the car cigar lighter so to some extent is it not still hardwired?
Or
Do you just use alot of batteries
Navman 4410
My navman BT Gps has batteries which are good for 30 hours, but can still plug it in the cigarete lighter if I am in the car. so multiple options
The good thing of this one is, when I am in town by foot or train, I can still use the gps.
That is so perfect
Is the Emtec BT GPS the same one as made by Socket comms but just with a different badge, because i know this as a GPS is probley the most sensitive GPS i have ever used and its excellent where other GPS dont see any or only a few sats, this one still works fine
John
That is rubbish
My navman, sees in the UK at least 8 sats
Hi!
I am still unsure if I should get a bluetooth GPS or a wired one.
The wired ones are about half the price of the bluetooth at the moment.
I wonder how the USB GPS are powered? Do they need a seperate battery or do they get their power from the XDA over USB?
Can I put my XDA in the cig-lighter for power and the GPS in the XDA without needing any additional batteries?
Thanks for help!
Dominik
You cant use a usb gps with your xda, you will need a serial gps, I have been involved with gps navigation for pda's for some time now. I cannot see that a bluetooth gps has any advantage over a wired system if it is for use only in the car, the xda needs to be powered for anything other than short journeys so it is still wired even if you use bluetooth. I am about to sell my xda2 as bluetooth was the main reason for getting it however I think my xda1 with 64 meg ram and 256 sd card does all I want it to, I will be using a dirt cheap digitraveler gps which I can also use with any other computer with a serial port, if no serial exists on the laptop I can use a usb to serial adaptor. Having said all that, if the person uses the gps away from the car then bluetooth is a bonus as the gps is self powered, but so is the digitraveler, though larger and heavier it runs on 3 x aaa batteries and could be used away from the vehicle. Its different strokes for different folks so buy what suits your needs. By the way the Fortuna GPSmart and the Holux gr-230 can be used as a wired gps using a cheap optional cable/charger, or as a wireless bluetooth gps, both run at a fast 38400 and are very good at the task of locking to gps.
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Hi!
I have an XDAII. Do I need a serial or USB GPS for it?
So, with that wired GPS, is the setup stated above possible? Like no batteries in the GPS, connected to the XDAII being charged by the cig-lighter itself?
If not, I would have to charge two devices at the same time during long travels....
Thx
Dominik
You could buy a cheap haicom gps, with all the serial gps kits you get a lead with a lighter plug connected, the same lead powers the gps and the xda/pda. Have a look here and use the drop down box on the haicom ad, choose xda, very cheap, very effective and powers both xda and gps. This is for use in car only. For less than £50. Also you can obtain various leads for it that will allow you to use it with another pda/laptop/pc etc.
http://www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk/allprods.php?category_id=14
Will it power and work on the XDA II.
Yes, make sure beams in unchecked under settings/connections, in tomtom choose tomtom gps then choose com1.
Hi
Those who recognise my name will know I recently got a fantastic Brodit holder and charger for my XDA2, but now I'm looking for GPS stuff too.
Does anyone have any suggestions on which is the best (and more importantly value for money) GPS receiver, and also what is the best software? Not that I would encourage such things, but are the "evaluation" versions you can "acquire" off the net any good, do they show you how it works before you then go and buy the real software?
I'm interested in the smaller gps units as I do not like the look of bulky ones.
Cheers
Anthony
Hi
I use the Fortuna Clipon Bluetooth. it is portable and has an 8 hour battery life. The software i use is TomTom 3.
There are plenty of reviews at www.pocketgps.co.uk .
Regards
The Pilgrim
I would definitely recommend any Bluetooth GPS receiver.
Plusses:
- Own power supply (rechargeable battery)
- Less wires inside car (no "Y-cable", but if you want it permanently powered you still need it wired to +12V)
- Can be used outside of car (bevause of battery)
- When constantly powered keeps its fix (this is the best plus for me)
Minus:
- Price
On eBay you might get lucky in buying a cheap one. I bought my DCONNEX DC230, rebadged Holux GR-230, for about 100euro incl shipping there.
I used Belkin BT GPS...
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I would definitely recommend any Bluetooth GPS receiver.
Plusses:
- Own power supply (rechargeable battery)
- Less wires inside car (no "Y-cable", but if you want it permanently powered you still need it wired to +12V)
- Can be used outside of car (bevause of battery)
- When constantly powered keeps its fix (this is the best plus for me)
Minus:
- Price
On eBay you might get lucky in buying a cheap one. I bought my DCONNEX DC230, rebadged Holux GR-230, for about 100euro incl shipping there.
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I agree with "edsub", bluetooth GPS gives you more freedom to move it around. Here in the United States I bought Belkin BT GPS (its a Fortuna Clip-on rebadge) the navigation software is included ((iNav/iGuidance) Version 1.0 US and Canada) very cheap too $170 including shipping. Usually cost $399.99 but when you using coupon 82242, you will get only $140+S/H=$170.00 here in the US. Buy directly from Belkin website (brand new).
For US resident this is a good opportunity to buy BT GPS. I am not sure if Belkin deliver overseas.
If the gps is for car use only I would suggest a cheap wired version such as Haicom hi-203e. Even if you have charged your bluetooth gps in the house you have to remember to take it to the car, if you get it to the car you have to be confident that the battery will last for the duration of the journey, your xda will need to be on charge all the time in the car so I dont see the problem with having a y cable that works off one cigarette socket. The only drawback I can see is when the car has a windscreen that will not allow gps signal through, the length of lead on wired gps wont allow you to place gps in rear window. I have used and tested dozens of different gps/pda combos and that is my 2 pennies worth of advice.
TomTom 3 and a BT Receiver. Couple that with our Safety Camera database and Digitools superb UKPostCode Plug-In and you have a system way better than any other.
And as you have an XDAII you can subscribe to the Traffic Service and have live updates overlayed on your map via GPRS
I hafta agree with Griffog. i have everything he says and i would (excuse the pun) be lost without all that :wink:
I have the Leadtek 9537 BT Receiver and regularly travel round with between 7 - 9 sats.
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I use a TOMTOM BT GPS purchased from ebay £70 and it is fantastic. Absolutely no probs whotsoever. No spaghetti junction on the dashboard and alot can be said for that.
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If the gps is for car use only I would suggest a cheap wired version such as Haicom hi-203e.
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I have a wired GPS antenna and have never tried a BT one, for I have and XDA1 only, but agree with the principle that since you will probably want your XDA powered, a wired solution is fully acceptable.
The model Haicom 203 has been replaced with Haicom 204.
BIG plus for the BT option is to always have a fix, independent whether the MDAII is connected or not. I heard of cases where it can take up to one minute before a GPS mouse has found a new fix.
I solved the battery issue by hooking the BT GPS to a permanent power lead that is put behind the roof-fabric of the car (GPS is located in a bllack box next to the mirror because that is the nly place where there is no heat-resistant layer on the windscreen).
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BIG plus for the BT option is to always have a fix, independent whether the MDAII is connected or not. I heard of cases where it can take up to one minute before a GPS mouse has found a new fix.
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This is correct.
It will matter in the case of a car which will cut power to the cigar plug when the key is off.
It's not the case any more in most of recent cars. It was the case for my previous car where locallisation would take from 20 seconds (normally) to 3-4 minutes in the worth cases (unsure what the reason why but it did some days)!
I have wired the power cable that came with the TOMTOM gps to a USB connector. I then plug this in to my cigarette lighter which has a female connector on it. I also use this to plug my XDA charging cable into should I need it
I got the information I needed to solder all the connections etc from the web! a great little experiment that I helped to teach my son the art of soldering, a couple of sore little blisters later all works perfect.
Bluetooth's certainly good. But if you're a complete cheapskate, I guess the cheapest option is the RadioShack Digitraveler. It's out of production now, but on eBay you can get it for $40 thereabouts if you watch. Comes with its own software, but Mapopolis is so much better that I would advocate getting it. Cheapest software I think is MS ActiveStreets or MapPoint or something. But it too doesn't match up to Mapopolis. My GPS setup is a total of $50.
gps
hi guys
i have been looking for a gps system for ages and i have currently got a global sat sd501. i am running this in partnership with mapopolis and i find its great not too sure on the navigation side yet. but it is really accutate and i think its great with the xda2 you can find a review at the site below
regards kevin beecher
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/globalsat-sdio-gps-sd501.php
Whilst the GlobaSat SD GPS is superb and very sensitive the big issue with all SD GPS is where do you store the maps?
If you only have the SD slot then you have no other option and if you have a PDa with both CF and SD, why pay the premium for an SD GPS when you can use a CF?
I'm very satisfied with the BT Rikaline 6030 (it is technically the same as the Leadtek 9537, I believe) together with Alturion Pro 5.3 navigation software. The main reason for choosing Bluetooth is that I want to be able to walk around with it, using GPS-supported map-software. With a (replacable) battery with a battery life that lasts for 10-12 hours, the Rikaline suits me fine.
One thing, though. If you regularly are confronted with traffic jams or other traffic nuisances, it might be worth considering to use a GPS device in combination with TMC/RDS and of course the appropriate navigation software (Alturion Pro supports this, I don't know about TomTom). Right now I use the TMC information (via GPRS) that is supplied by Alturion's TMC-server. But that is only limited to the Netherlands & Belgium.
With the combination GPS and TMC/RDS it is possible to avoid traffic jams in all areas where radio stations broadcast traffic info. Up to a few months ago there were only wired and no BT receivers that offered the combination GPS+TMC/RDS, but recently I saw an offer for navigation software (don't recall the name but is was not TomTom or Alturion) including a Bluetooth GPS as well as TMC/RDS receiver.
TomTom also offer a TMC service via GPRS. The BT GPS with TMC you saw was part of the Navigon bundle which we are testing currently.
Dont know if its the same Bt GPS, but Engin (www.engin.nl, Navigation solution by ANWB, the dutch AA) also offers a BT GPS/TMC receiver now. They even claim its modular (so you can buy with or without the TMC module).
Yes that's the same one and the screen shots are identical to Navigon, perhaps this is a rebadged version?
Is there a spot to connect a external antenna like on tytn at the back?
No there is not.
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No there is not.
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Are you sure?
Its usually hidden somewhere in the battery compartment under a sticker or label or rubber plug. It might even be under the battery its self.
What is very strange i found it in one phone under a lable saying Void if removed...
Very odd considering the plug while not public common use. Is a perfectly viable antenna connection and often used in rigs, car phones and business.
But most phones have them.
Yes, this doesn't.
thnx for the info guys. hmmm this might change my descion to get it. unless it has better reception then i get with my Tytn i wont be able to get reception without it.
This is an issue for me too, as I just found this:
http://www.easydevices.co.uk/products.asp?partno=TCANTENNATPRO&model=
Says it's an external GPS antenna for the HTC Touch Pro...
Or would this work?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/10939.htm?referer=FR_PROD-PR-P-10939
The first thing is discontinued, obviously because they found out (probably by some angry buyers) that TP DOES NOT have a GPS plug.
The second is a full BT GPS device. Works with any BT enabled computer or PDA (inc. the TP).
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I was also disappointed that there was no BT antenna available.
I was seaching some GPS antenna maker hoping to find some that could use existing MiniUSB port on TP but it seems the port is unable to support communication with GPS software.
So sad, this would have been a good enhancement to TP if there was MiniUSB GPS antenna maker.
Guys do you know what you are talking about?
I suppose not.
BT or USB are not "generic I do it all" technologies. They work based on specific protocols.
A GPS antenna is usually passive equipment - and even for active ones we mean that something amplifies the received signal.
THAT signal (and in fact the whole antenna), is "stupid". It is the part of the chipset to receive the ELECTRICAL data and make them into usable data.
I am not sure if I am getting through, my English are not the best, but the point is that you are looking in the wrong place for the wrong thing.
Now if you want a real USB or BT GPS that you will use instead of the internal ones, that's a whole different story. This works and actually does it by using the "COM" (serial) support that both USB and BT include.
To make the story more complete though, USB solutions will not work for devices that don't support "USB-host" (i.e. being the host part not the client part of the connection). Most WM don't have this (and yes Diamond and TP also don't). So you are left with BT.
To be honest if you are ready to pay for that premium (and you seem to be, by the links you give), what is your problem if what you connected is a full GPS that "replaces" the internal one or not?
I hope everything is more clear.
I presently use a TyTN II, and have an external aerial as the mount for the device is under a metal dash, so shields the signal...
I therefore need an external receiver for GPS.
Se here: http://freespace.virgin.net/shaw.clan/modifications.html and click on the TomTom hiolder link, although this is with the older QTEC 9100.
Make sense?
For driving with my Garmin in the car i used a Re-Radiating in my Xterra with excellent results.
This is basically the setup I have, although the internal antenna wasn't integrated into the power plug.
http://www.semsons.com/gpsreran.html
Mine is a bit more similar to this so you can control where you mount the internal antenna.
http://www.mapsdownunder.com.au/cgi-bin/mapshop/MG-GPSPHMANTRA45.html
I have yet to test it on the Fuze but will probably do it when I have time this weekend. The change in signal strength is drastic (on the garmin).
Woow insanely expensive!
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I have yet to test it on the Fuze but will probably do it when I have time this weekend. The change in signal strength is drastic (on the garmin).
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Please let us know if it works.