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Has anyone seen a photo of the base connector for the new XDA, it would be kind of nice if it fits my existing car kit ( Not much chance of that)
Can anyone help
Thank you
Paul Jones
Not the photo. I have tried to connect xdaII (dummy) to my car kit! it works just fine.
Thanks for the feedback Andrej, maybe I wont have to junk my carkit at the moment !! :lol:
Regards
Paul Jones
I am very sure that the Xda II will use a different carkit to the existing Xda - someone at O2 told me this.
I am in a similar situation - I think I will try to sell my Xda carkit now!
Hi
I do nit have a car Kit but I suspect as the XDA II has and SDIO slot and the XDA does not, then whilst they may 'fit' they may not function correctly.
Cheers
Ric
It will not be compatibel!
There will be a new Car Kit for MDA II
Is that going to be the same for other accessories? E,g GPS, keyboard etc?
If the socket is the same then maybe there is a possibility of a rewire to match up the io interface.
Parrot CK-3000 V3.00 Works Well With XDA II
I tested Parrot CK-3000 Works well with XDA II
The XDA II works fine in an XDA Full Carkit with the following exceptions:
The phone does not automatically switch on when you insert it into the cradle (the XDA did).
The phone is a slightly tighter fit in the cradle (its thicker) but still fits fine. The top clip of the cradle does not come all the way down but rests on the top of the XDAII, which is also fine.
I use it daily and have no problems.
As a point, all my XDA peripherals work with my XDA II including my Foldable Keyboard.
I can second this.......just received my MDA II and everything works fine with the carkit: Handsfree phone, GPS, Power.......
It is a bit tight, but I heated up the bottom of the carkit with a blower till it became soft and then put in the MDA II and let it cool down. Now it is quite workable without having to buy a new carkit........
xda II car kit has plugin for gps devices, so is slightly different. Got this from the blurb on www.o2.co.uk/xda
Carkit
To use your device in the car - or truck - you need to install a fully wired and properly mounted carkit, as mandated by recent UK Legislation.
These units are not provided with aerial kits - these are separately provided by the carkit installer and are appropriate to your vehicle.
These carkit's are especially designed to fit Xda and Xda II respectively, and is built to integrate with most modern car connectors. In addition, the Xda II carkit supports direct connection of a GPS unit - such as that provide by TomTom Navigator - allowing you to use Xda as a navigation system.
Xda Carkit - AHTXDAKN - £176.50
We have not seen ANY existing XDA II carkits yet, so we cannot judge to soon.
At the moment all the photo's referring to the carkit from the providers are the XDA I carkit.
This carkit always had the GPS external connection, I have been using it for almost a year now with TomTom and a Holux GM 210 mouse. I have cut the XDA connector and connected the appropriate wires to the GPS mouse......works like a charm, also with the New MDA II.
Look at my review I wrote almost a year ago (It's in Dutch, but you can throw a webtranslator over it if you want to):
http://www.pocketpc-club.nl/content.php?id=1319
Re: Parrot CK-3000 V3.00 Works Well With XDA II
ronlkh said:
I tested Parrot CK-3000 Works well with XDA II
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Hi
I am thinking about buying a CK3000 but was worried that there may be a Bluetooth compatibility issue (like there is with some Bluetooth GPS systems at the moment Tom Tom + Navman apparently). Is your CK3000 working fully with the XDA 11 via Bluetooth as a Handsfree System i.e. sound through your car speakers, mute the stereo when a call comes in etc? Do you know of a supplier who will also install/configure it?
What else would I need besides the CK3000 - A XDA 11 Passive Holder and a Cigar lighter Charger?
Any help advice you can give me is very much appreciated.
Steve Grunnill
The parrot CK3000 has a Handsfree and a headset profile.
The XDA/MDA 2 only has a headset profile.
So as long as the carkit has a headsetprofile also, it will work...
Why not use the XDA II with the speaker phone enabled ??
Have you tried it ?
it's hard to quickly enable, and it's not loud enough...
Car charger seems ok...
I immediately tried my xda car charger in my xda II and it fits and seems to work in that the orange charging light comes on.
But could I be doing some damage that I am unaware of? (Incidentally some people refer to a cradle: my car charger is not a cradle...)
No the pinlayout of the XDA and MDA/XDA 2 are the same...
Has anyone found a car cradle for the XDA II (hardwired not BT). I have searched several sites an I cannot find anything. Surely there must be enough users for a company to warrant the development
Hi!
I have browsed through the board and some websites concering GPS kits for the XDAII and I am even more confused than before.
Can anybody give me a suggestion about which GPS Device works good with the XDAII and which card software is to be preferred?
I want to use my XDAII as a navigation system in my car and I am from germany (if that does matter somehow).
Thanks alot!
Dominik
Hi,
I would say: Emtac Bluetooth GPS Receiver...
http://www.emtac.com/
This one is really great!
Combine this with XDA II + Bluetooth Tools + Emtac BTGPS is the best solution for GPS...
Greetings,
Sam
Navman 4410
navman 4410 with bluetooth gps receiver, works perfect,
BUT if you go for the fixed version, go for the t-mobile carkit for €199,- to get from the german t-mobie stores, this is the BEST DEAL arround. you get the carkit, plus the sat-nav software, plus the gps receiver.
OK its build in, but a very strong deal
If you have a BT gps do you still not have to plug it in to the car cigar lighter so to some extent is it not still hardwired?
Or
Do you just use alot of batteries
Navman 4410
My navman BT Gps has batteries which are good for 30 hours, but can still plug it in the cigarete lighter if I am in the car. so multiple options
The good thing of this one is, when I am in town by foot or train, I can still use the gps.
That is so perfect
Is the Emtec BT GPS the same one as made by Socket comms but just with a different badge, because i know this as a GPS is probley the most sensitive GPS i have ever used and its excellent where other GPS dont see any or only a few sats, this one still works fine
John
That is rubbish
My navman, sees in the UK at least 8 sats
Hi all
I am new to this forum but I could really do with your wisdom.
I have an XDA 2 that I use for business use.
However I need a system for GPS and a hands free driving kit. I suspect that a bluetooth system is the way forward.
However reading these pages I believe that there have been several issues that have caused a great deal of consternation with the TomTom system.
O2 have really messed me around over the last year with their hands free kit. They have been unable to supply anything and with the new vehicle legislation they have been totally unprepared.
The system that I thought about using would be...
XDA2
Tomtom 3
Parrot CK3000
Has anybody tried it and if so is there anything else that I would need, ie cables, brackets, chargers etc.
Regards
TOP
I am using
xda2 with TOMTOM3 Bluetooth.
For Handsfree I use a Jabra Bt250 and it work fine.
Maybe you need to bluetooth Tools
I use a Parrot CK3000 carkit together with my Bleutooth TomTom GPS. It works all very good. The only thing is that the sound of your XDA is not comming via the carkit, but in the future that will be possible (with an upgrade of my XDA).
But for now it works very well.
I have a CK3000 and it works OK on its own. I have had some issues with integrating it with the Car Audio though (new Nissan Primera), but that is another matter.
The other thing I would point out... It is a real pain if you also have a Blue Tooth headset. You need to keep renaming from the Headset to the Carkit and vice versa.
The new version of BT Tools does sort out the multiple headset problem, however..... my CK3000 will not work with the new version, so I am using the older version till this is fixed.
My suggestion may be a fixed mount in the car of some sort, especially if charging the unit is required. That is the way I am thinking of going unless BTTools or the ROM is updated soon.
Thanks for all your help, it is much appreciated.
From what you have said everything should work fine.
With regard to the headset, I am determined to rid myself of this as I suffer from headaches if I wear it too much.
Surely once the Parrot is paired then can it not be set as the default vox unit?
EelcoV
Thanks for that. Its a great relief, however when you say that the sound is not coming from the car speakers is that for the TomTom system? Surely that is a good thing as I don't want my Mozart, Mendelson or Motorhead to be interupted with..."At the junction turn left!"
IanF
I am planning to use my Nissan Navara as my main vehicle for the Parrot kit, is the problem you are experiencing a Nissan thing?
Jupiter
Thank you from the moon of Titan...I will look for Blue Tools.
Does anyone know if a charger and bracket comes with either of these systems.
Regards
TOP
With the TomTom Navigator comes a brodit cradle, which will charge your XDA.
The Otter's Pocket said:
I am planning to use my Nissan Navara as my main vehicle for the Parrot kit, is the problem you are experiencing a Nissan thing?
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It is in the Primera because of the new Central (N-Form) console. The ISO connectors supplied on Parrot do not fit the Radio, which is built into the console, and there is no conversion kit on the market at the moment.
I was luck and had a Nokia Phone kit installed and intrgrated into the car when I bought it, so I have done a bit of extra wiring to this kit which has made it acceptable.
Check you can get an ISO Harness for your car model/radio.
Ian
EelcoV said:
With the TomTom Navigator comes a brodit cradle, which will charge your XDA.
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That's Incorrect, you can buy Tomtom Navigator as a bundle with the TomTom Carkit, this is not the same as a Broditcradle.
I'm currently using a Carcomm XDAII cradle and it's superb. Available in the UK from TotalPDA.
Bluetooth handsfree/GPS
Hi all
Another newbie! I am contemplating buying TomTom3 Bluetooth for use with my xda2 (I want to be able to move it between my family's 2 vehicles). Any thoughts (I am not particularly concerned about the TomTom 3 Bluetooth GPS receiver's limited battery life as I would anticipate using it with a dual pda/gps charger cable)
I believe that there may also be an issue with using Bluetooth GPS and my Jabra BT250 headset together? I see Bluetooth Tools mentioned on here as a potential solution to this - is this a download package? Where can I obtain it?
Any help much appreciated. 8)
I'm using an O2 XDA2 with the standard bluetooth software (ie not using bluetooth tools or anyone elses bluetooth stack).
I use TomTom Navigator 3 with their own bluetooth GPS receiver and I also use a bluetooth telephone headset unit as well.
Both work fine - even at the same time.
I've used both a Plantronics M3000 headset and also a Parrot CK3000 in-car handsfree headset.
Either work fine either on their own or in parallel with the TomTom BT GPS.
The only problemmatical area is that the PDA can only pair with one bluetooth "headset" at a time - so if you want to use both a BT car kit and also a separate BT headset, you need to keep deleting one pairing and pairing to the other.
I gave up and lent my Plantronics headset to someone else - and now I just use the Parrot CK3000 car kit.
Oneday, the XDA2 might support the handsfree profile as well as the headset profile, but for the time being we're stuck with just the latter.
I tried installing bluetooth-tools to see if that would give me a hands-free profile but couldn't seem to get anything to work so I de-installed it quick...!
Hi
Those who recognise my name will know I recently got a fantastic Brodit holder and charger for my XDA2, but now I'm looking for GPS stuff too.
Does anyone have any suggestions on which is the best (and more importantly value for money) GPS receiver, and also what is the best software? Not that I would encourage such things, but are the "evaluation" versions you can "acquire" off the net any good, do they show you how it works before you then go and buy the real software?
I'm interested in the smaller gps units as I do not like the look of bulky ones.
Cheers
Anthony
Hi
I use the Fortuna Clipon Bluetooth. it is portable and has an 8 hour battery life. The software i use is TomTom 3.
There are plenty of reviews at www.pocketgps.co.uk .
Regards
The Pilgrim
I would definitely recommend any Bluetooth GPS receiver.
Plusses:
- Own power supply (rechargeable battery)
- Less wires inside car (no "Y-cable", but if you want it permanently powered you still need it wired to +12V)
- Can be used outside of car (bevause of battery)
- When constantly powered keeps its fix (this is the best plus for me)
Minus:
- Price
On eBay you might get lucky in buying a cheap one. I bought my DCONNEX DC230, rebadged Holux GR-230, for about 100euro incl shipping there.
I used Belkin BT GPS...
edsub said:
I would definitely recommend any Bluetooth GPS receiver.
Plusses:
- Own power supply (rechargeable battery)
- Less wires inside car (no "Y-cable", but if you want it permanently powered you still need it wired to +12V)
- Can be used outside of car (bevause of battery)
- When constantly powered keeps its fix (this is the best plus for me)
Minus:
- Price
On eBay you might get lucky in buying a cheap one. I bought my DCONNEX DC230, rebadged Holux GR-230, for about 100euro incl shipping there.
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I agree with "edsub", bluetooth GPS gives you more freedom to move it around. Here in the United States I bought Belkin BT GPS (its a Fortuna Clip-on rebadge) the navigation software is included ((iNav/iGuidance) Version 1.0 US and Canada) very cheap too $170 including shipping. Usually cost $399.99 but when you using coupon 82242, you will get only $140+S/H=$170.00 here in the US. Buy directly from Belkin website (brand new).
For US resident this is a good opportunity to buy BT GPS. I am not sure if Belkin deliver overseas.
If the gps is for car use only I would suggest a cheap wired version such as Haicom hi-203e. Even if you have charged your bluetooth gps in the house you have to remember to take it to the car, if you get it to the car you have to be confident that the battery will last for the duration of the journey, your xda will need to be on charge all the time in the car so I dont see the problem with having a y cable that works off one cigarette socket. The only drawback I can see is when the car has a windscreen that will not allow gps signal through, the length of lead on wired gps wont allow you to place gps in rear window. I have used and tested dozens of different gps/pda combos and that is my 2 pennies worth of advice.
TomTom 3 and a BT Receiver. Couple that with our Safety Camera database and Digitools superb UKPostCode Plug-In and you have a system way better than any other.
And as you have an XDAII you can subscribe to the Traffic Service and have live updates overlayed on your map via GPRS
I hafta agree with Griffog. i have everything he says and i would (excuse the pun) be lost without all that :wink:
I have the Leadtek 9537 BT Receiver and regularly travel round with between 7 - 9 sats.
Bluetooth
I use a TOMTOM BT GPS purchased from ebay £70 and it is fantastic. Absolutely no probs whotsoever. No spaghetti junction on the dashboard and alot can be said for that.
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If the gps is for car use only I would suggest a cheap wired version such as Haicom hi-203e.
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I have a wired GPS antenna and have never tried a BT one, for I have and XDA1 only, but agree with the principle that since you will probably want your XDA powered, a wired solution is fully acceptable.
The model Haicom 203 has been replaced with Haicom 204.
BIG plus for the BT option is to always have a fix, independent whether the MDAII is connected or not. I heard of cases where it can take up to one minute before a GPS mouse has found a new fix.
I solved the battery issue by hooking the BT GPS to a permanent power lead that is put behind the roof-fabric of the car (GPS is located in a bllack box next to the mirror because that is the nly place where there is no heat-resistant layer on the windscreen).
edsub said:
BIG plus for the BT option is to always have a fix, independent whether the MDAII is connected or not. I heard of cases where it can take up to one minute before a GPS mouse has found a new fix.
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This is correct.
It will matter in the case of a car which will cut power to the cigar plug when the key is off.
It's not the case any more in most of recent cars. It was the case for my previous car where locallisation would take from 20 seconds (normally) to 3-4 minutes in the worth cases (unsure what the reason why but it did some days)!
I have wired the power cable that came with the TOMTOM gps to a USB connector. I then plug this in to my cigarette lighter which has a female connector on it. I also use this to plug my XDA charging cable into should I need it
I got the information I needed to solder all the connections etc from the web! a great little experiment that I helped to teach my son the art of soldering, a couple of sore little blisters later all works perfect.
Bluetooth's certainly good. But if you're a complete cheapskate, I guess the cheapest option is the RadioShack Digitraveler. It's out of production now, but on eBay you can get it for $40 thereabouts if you watch. Comes with its own software, but Mapopolis is so much better that I would advocate getting it. Cheapest software I think is MS ActiveStreets or MapPoint or something. But it too doesn't match up to Mapopolis. My GPS setup is a total of $50.
gps
hi guys
i have been looking for a gps system for ages and i have currently got a global sat sd501. i am running this in partnership with mapopolis and i find its great not too sure on the navigation side yet. but it is really accutate and i think its great with the xda2 you can find a review at the site below
regards kevin beecher
http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/globalsat-sdio-gps-sd501.php
Whilst the GlobaSat SD GPS is superb and very sensitive the big issue with all SD GPS is where do you store the maps?
If you only have the SD slot then you have no other option and if you have a PDa with both CF and SD, why pay the premium for an SD GPS when you can use a CF?
I'm very satisfied with the BT Rikaline 6030 (it is technically the same as the Leadtek 9537, I believe) together with Alturion Pro 5.3 navigation software. The main reason for choosing Bluetooth is that I want to be able to walk around with it, using GPS-supported map-software. With a (replacable) battery with a battery life that lasts for 10-12 hours, the Rikaline suits me fine.
One thing, though. If you regularly are confronted with traffic jams or other traffic nuisances, it might be worth considering to use a GPS device in combination with TMC/RDS and of course the appropriate navigation software (Alturion Pro supports this, I don't know about TomTom). Right now I use the TMC information (via GPRS) that is supplied by Alturion's TMC-server. But that is only limited to the Netherlands & Belgium.
With the combination GPS and TMC/RDS it is possible to avoid traffic jams in all areas where radio stations broadcast traffic info. Up to a few months ago there were only wired and no BT receivers that offered the combination GPS+TMC/RDS, but recently I saw an offer for navigation software (don't recall the name but is was not TomTom or Alturion) including a Bluetooth GPS as well as TMC/RDS receiver.
TomTom also offer a TMC service via GPRS. The BT GPS with TMC you saw was part of the Navigon bundle which we are testing currently.
Dont know if its the same Bt GPS, but Engin (www.engin.nl, Navigation solution by ANWB, the dutch AA) also offers a BT GPS/TMC receiver now. They even claim its modular (so you can buy with or without the TMC module).
Yes that's the same one and the screen shots are identical to Navigon, perhaps this is a rebadged version?
Hi all.
Found this via kelkoo.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/3345.htm
Thought it might have been somebody OEM'ing the original o2 accesory but when I look on the o2 site there is no integrated cradle car kit listed!
I'm looking for a kit that will:-
Mute the standard stereo for calls
Allow audio from the XDA2 so I can use it as a car stereo
Charge the XDA2
Allow connection to a Tom-Tom nav unit.
This item would appear to do the business. However I suspect it may be a kit avialable somewhere else and have been discussed here already.
Any hints/comments appreciated.
Thanks All.
hi
i have seen a gps ready car kit with those functions on o2s site
jim
There's this stuff below listed for XDA2 which one do you mean.
Looks like bluetooth + GPS stuff and the like to me. My focus is on audio from wired connectivity but with an option for GPS. Bluetooth isn't a factor for me. Did you mean one of the below? If you mean somewhere else can you supply a URL? Thanks. Vent mount is no good either.
Cheers.
Safe2Talk Xda II car kit - AORXD2KN
£44.99
You can fit it in seconds with power from your cigar lighter socket - and it's only £44.99.
Bluetooth Safe2Talk Xda II car kit - AORSBLKN
£54.99
Simple to fit and no trailing wires.
Integrated Bluetooth car kit compatible with the Xda IIs - using the Sony Ericsson HCB-300 Bluetooth Car Kit. Features a compact design with a high quality external microphone with speaker volume control. Professional installation needed.
Sony Ericsson HCB-300 Bluetooth Car Kit ASEZ60KN
£159.99
A complete in-car navigation package using your Xda II and one of Europe's leading satellite navigation systems, TomTom Navigator 3TM. You'll get everything you need to get started straightaway; TomTom software to load on to your Xda II, a Global Positioning System (GPS) receiver plus a connection cable and vent-mounted car cradle for your Xda II. We have pre-loaded the mainland Great Britain maps on a memory card for you, which slots in to the top of your Xda II. And there's no monthly subscription for this service, just buy the system follow the simple set-up instructions and you're away.
There are two for you to choose from:
Bluetooth TomTom Navigator 3 - AORBTT3N
£270.00
The GPS receiver uses the latest Bluetooth technology and does not need wires to connect to the Xda II, so you can choose where you want to install the receiver in your car.
Also comes with an AC adapter so you can recharge the GPS receiver outside your car.
Wired TomTom Navigator 3 - AORWTT3N
£230.00
The GPS receiver is connected to the Xda II with the cable supplied.
Keep your Xda II charged whilst you are out and about with the in car charger. - AHTXDALN
£19.99