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SD cards of doom

hi all i have 12 XDA 2 under the Qtek brand. And i have had stupid amounts of issues with sd cards. i have gone though over 30 of em.
im using the latest firmwares and im usign them for tomtom 3.09 and email attachments.
but i keep getting the SD cards dying. do most users find this normal?

i had a sandisk 256MB with my xda1 and that never gave any problems but were a bit slow
with my xda2 i had a 128MB sandisk card also slow
now i have a kingston 512 elite pro and it's fast and ok
never had a sd card die in any device
but sd cards have limited writes before they die but they have 1000's of writes before that

i have had many SD cards varing from dane elec. Viking. and kingston.
all of these are 512k and not (hi speed) just standard. but i hav e had to send so many back for completly dying. my supplier thinks i eat them or something

odd maybe there is something wrong with your xda so it gives them too much power or something
you mean 512MB right ?

Try Kingston. Mines a 256mb and I haven't had any problems at all. TomTom is fast (both version 3 & 5) and never had any die on me

I've also had a 256MB Kingston, which has been faithful in my XDA 2i.
I thought ok, time to get bigger, so put in a 1GB Toshiba, followed by a 512MB Toshiba.
Both of which are now DEAD!
90 quid, Mwaa... Bye bye!
I tend to agree with RudeGar - I would imagine that the HTC manufacturers didn't want the extra cost of a variable regulator to power the SD card, so if it negotiates a lower voltage, they are not able to supply it...
Linux just reports "block read error" when trying to access a dead card, Windoze hangs!
Anyone found a way around this problem?
Cheers,
Richard.

My 256 meg sd card today passed away, it was a viking I think and it contained my tomtom program and maps. I am glad it didnt happen while travelling as I get lost easily, anyway it has now gone to silicone heaven and I am heartbroken.
Anybody got a any cheap replacements :?:

My Kingston 256 MB is OK too, but now I'm very leery of upgrading to higher capacity... :?

yess it is
oh yes it is

dunno if this will help anyone, but i started with a regular sandisk 128mb, then upgraded to a sandisk ultra II 256, then a kingmax (not kingston!) platinum 512mb, then now a toshiba 1gb. All this on my xda2.
all have been fine except one time where i had a problem with the kingmax platinum, but i suspect that was because i dumped it in a card reader, and did some major transferring in and out of large files (movies, etc). Soon it would show a greatly reduced capacity in both my xda and card reader. Got cnetx's flash format, fixed & formatted it, and now it's fine, though i've since moved it to my digicam, and now use the toshiba 1gb.

I had a Toshiba 512 SD which completely died within a week now I have a Kingston 512 MMC+ had it a month and still going strong and very fast.

sd cards...
Hi all, I've got a maxell 128mb and a Panasonic pro high speed 512mb. My Maxell gave me a bit of a scare when i had my Xda2. All my data was wiped off !!! I inserted the card the one day and it was as empty as the day it was born. Took it back to Dixons and that was not much help. They said i can send it away to try and retrieve my lost data.
I cut my losses and formatted the card on my PC. No probs since
I am now using both cards in my xda2i and i've had no data loss.(touch wood)

I have been using 128 and 256 Ridata cards for 3 years without any problems. Also I have used a 512 Astone for the past 9 months for movies also without incident.
I always keep my spare ones inside a case and don't expose them to direct sunlight. They may be tough critters but you can damage them if they are mistreated.

MMC or SD
I have an XDA IIi (Well the Qtek version of it) and am going to get a memory card in the order of 512Mb for it. There seems theres been a lot of bother been had with the SD cards. Has anyone had any problem eith MMC's? Are there any disadvantages to using MMC cards (speed etc)? Can anyone reccomend a cheap SD card at this size that they have had no problem with? Cheers
Tom

2GB MiniSD Card issues

Hi, I recently bought a 2GB MiniSD card for my Treo750v. When I put it into the system it worked fine, I installed some programs and put some music on. Then I left the phone alone for a while and the automatic keylock came on. When I returned to the phone and activated it from keylock the sound that is played when removing the card was heard and it reported that there was no card installed when there clearly was. To return the card to working order i had to remove and re-insert it. After that it was fine until keylock came back on and the same thing happened again!
Anyone got any ideas on why this is doing what it is doing!
Point to note, the card works perfectly in an HP device running WM5 and my Digital Camera!

I am starting to think this is a "problem" with the Treo because mine does the same with a 512mb card. Sometimes it wont be "seen" by the PDA but not a problem when put in my other pda.......
Jim

I get the same thing, also with a 2 gig card. But it happens only every other day or so. Still very annoying. Have no clue why this is happening.

I had the same trouble, too. But the trouble has already disappeared by replacement of 2GB mini SD to 1GB mini SD.
Remainning problem is that Spb pocket plus still cannot get application icons on storage card.

Went to a Vodafone store today and told them about the issue. They said it is a known issue and was a problem on a couple devices. They said if I would bring the box and invoice, they would exchange the device. Will do that in the next few days. Hope that solves it.

I have the same problem with my 512mb card and my 2Gig card. But I am in the U.S. and cant bring it in to Vodafone. Does anyone know what else can be done?

I should've did some homework and checked this forum before jumping on my 2GB which I bought 3 days ago. 'doh... I have the same issue here... except in the midst of playing with it, inserting and removing etc... all the data got corrupted. I have to figure out how to reformat the whole card.
Hopefully, there's a software fix later.

Hey
Thanks guys n gals for ur help!
magxs I might have to do the same!!!
Oh bum, silly silly smartphones! I just want something that works!

I've also been having problems with my Treo 750v and the miniSD card (2GB SanDisk Ultra II).
When I insert the card, the Treo sees it and can run programs that are installed on it. When I return the Treo after it has been off for a while the card is no longer recognised and the memory manager claims that no storage card is installed. At this point all I can do is either take the card out and reinsert it, or otherwise to a soft reset. The time it takes for the Treo to loose its connection to the card varies; sometimes I can turn it on after a few minutes and the card is gone, sometimes it still works after a couple of hours.
When I came across this discussion yesterday, I phoned up Vodafone and reported my issue. According to the customer service rep, this is not on their list of known issues but he agreed to an exchange anyway. I'll get the new device today. I hope that'll fix it, but by now have my doubts.
Someone else suggested formatting the SD card, citing issues with FAT16 vs FAT32. I might try that if the new Treo still suffers the same issue.
In another thread on this topic, someone reported that such an issue was observed on some other PPC device and was fixed by a ROM upgrade. I emailed Palm about it. Palm eventually got back to me today saying:
This may occur only with cards that are not Palm branded. If possible please try to use a Palm card to test it.
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Either that's a lame excuse, or they're trying to force people into buying their overpriced own branded accessories by making their hardware incompatible with the industry standard. Unless SanDisk don't know how to make miniSD cards...
I guess my next step - after the reformatting - will be to throw £60 at a Palm branded storage card; I don't expect that would work any better than my current card, but at least then Palm can't argue that I'm using "unsupported hardware".

I exchanged my Treo yesterday at a different Vodafone store. The people there didn't know anything about SD card issues either, but they exchanged it anyway. Have been running the new device for about 24 hrs now and no issues, yet. But even on the first device, the problems only started later and even then it wasn't an everyday occurrence. So, I will need to watch it a bit longer.

new rom
Have you tried loading the Cingular ROM and see if it fixes this problem?

After two full days with my new Treo, the SD card was lost again over night. So, it doesn't seem to be an issue that just a few devices were affected by. Too bad....
I didn't try any other ROMs yet.

I have the Cingular ROM, and have the same exact problem.

hi,
i am new to this board and hope you dont mind my bad english. i am from germany and proud owner of a treo 750v
and i tell you what: i am so glad i am not alone with the storage card problem.
it was nearly making me mad.
now i know that there are a lot of other people with the same problem. that may not solve it but gives me a better feeling an hope for an update which solves that.
PS: i use a 1gb sandisk

Well It's working
I bought another MiniSD card the other day, a 512Mb Kingston one, and so far so good, it works well (about 5 days now) and has not been "lost" so far! Not sure if it's the size of card or the make or what but I will keep investigating this!
Hope you resolve your issues!!
A

What kind of card did you have issues with?
I get the feeling the this might be related to specific cards. To find out: please everybody state which card you are using and if you have problems.
I'm using Sandisk Ultra II 2GB and it's dropping out.
Thanks

magxs said:
What kind of card did you have issues with?
I get the feeling the this might be related to specific cards. To find out: please everybody state which card you are using and if you have problems.
I'm using Sandisk Ultra II 2GB and it's dropping out.
Thanks
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i am using sandisc (normal) 1 gb and have the problems.

Card Type
Mine was a generic 2GB card bought on EBAY but the one that is working now is a Kingston 512MB card. The Generic 2GB works perfectly in my Digital camera. There are no Identifying marks on the 2GB card sadly so Cannot say for sure who makes it!

I'm also using a SanDisk Ultra II 2GB, and it's getting dropped regularly.

Sounds like SanDisk is the one to blame.
But would be good to have more reports before we all go out buying new cards. Keep em coming...

Mini sd 4gb

Hello, I've seen on Ebay a minisd of 4gb.
Is it compatible with Treo 750v? Anyone has tried it?

Hey,
Ive tried one in the XDA mini S it works in mine, but doenst work in my dads? think its something to do witht he contact length on the actual mini sd card, the longer the better. BUY A WELL KNOWN BRAND!

Actually I believe it has to do with the either the operating system's or hardware's ability to address 32bit file allocation tables. 16bit FATs only address (under normal circumstances) 2GB volumes. I believe official SD specifications require any hardware requiring more than 2GB to be SDHC (SD High Capacity) wich addresses volumes differently than none SDHC hardware/cards.
So in short, without having first hand experience to try it, I do not believe 4GB cards will work on the Treo. I'm sure, however, that someone will quickly come along and correct me if I'm wrong ;-)

I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289848&highlight=sdhc and then found one on eBay from the link on that page. I won my bid and just paid for it. I should receive it within two weeks, at which time I will try to get back on here and let everyone know if it works for me.
My phone is actually a (UT Starcom) Audiovox PPC 6700 from Sprint, but I would guess that there isn't much difference pertaining to the miniSD driver and what it can/can't read. Also, I can't see WM5 having trouble with the FAT32 file system, but I could be wrong. You *can* format FAT16 up to 4GB, but it is HIGHLY inefficient compared to FAT32 at the same size.
I just hope MS releases a driver for SDHC support soon. After all, miniSD still uses the SD driver. The only difference is physical dimensions, hence why you can put a miniSD card into the SD adapter and it works in SD card readers. The pin-out is the same, etc.
Here's hoping all works well for me. I want to be able to ditch my iPod and only carry my phone.

I have not formatted a memory card with FAT 32. I do not know how WM5 will handle FAT 32 but I know that SDHC has more to do with addressing memory than simply FAT structure. There are hardware differences between SDHC and non-SDHC.
The physical similarities between the SD cards will not make up for the fact that they are internally different. Just like a CD will play in a DVD player but not vice versa. An SD card will work in an SDHC slot but not vice versa.
4GB SD cards do exist but do not fall within legitimate*SD card standards. They may or may not work based on the card manufacturer, the host device, and the direction of the wind. Keep your fingers crossed and your receipts handy.

main question open again
So coming back to the main question,
has anyone tried the 4GB miniSD card (they are all HC, FAT32 formatted) on Treo 750?
I am waiting to decide whether to buy a 2GB or go for the 4GB and come to the same capacity level as the iPhone (4GB version!).
thanks
Phal

4GB miniSD cards and the Treo 750
I've got a 750v -- had it for several months. I was using a Transcend 2GB 80x miniSD card that worked just great. No issues with "disappearing", pretty fast read/write, etc.
I wanted a 4GB card so decided I would try a SDHC card from Transcend. It does not work in the Treo 750v. Works fine in my newest PC card reader, but no-go on the Treo. Figured as much, but wanted to try.
Then I bought another 4GB card (non-HC) from eBay that was branded Topram. It suffered the issue of not being able to see the card on the Treo without doing a soft-reset first, and it was very slow in writing to it -- like 1-2MB/sec from a USB 2.0 card reader. Didn't much care for that.
Just recently bought yet another 4GB card (again non-HC) from eBay. It was a generic card. I'm getting 3MB/sec write speed from my PC card reader, which is slower than my original 2GB Transcend 80x card, but not as bad as the Topram card. On the Treo itself, it's read speed is about the same as with the 80x Transcend 2GB card, which was pretty good. Overall the Treo feels about the same with the 4GB card versus the 2GB card installed, in terms of launching Tomtom or playing MP3s.
It also does not suffer any "disappearing" or the need to soft-reset the Treo to recognize the card. I've ejected it many times and put it back it, and have never had any issues with this. I'm going to stick with this card for now, as it seems fast enough and isn't causing me any grief.
This card is shown here: http://cgi.ebay.com/4GB-MINI-SD-SEC...QtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem?hash=item110080023472
So, that's my (long winded) story on 4GB miniSD cards and the Treo 750v.
Mark

Peteshoard said:
Hey,
Ive tried one in the XDA mini S it works in mine, but doenst work in my dads? think its something to do witht he contact length on the actual mini sd card, the longer the better. BUY A WELL KNOWN BRAND!
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I just bought a 4GB mini SD from MobyMemory.com for my O2 XDA mini S. The first card would not register at all with the device. I sent it back and the replacement now at least registers (as 4GB) but after loading any sort of volume of data on the card/device it locks the PPC up!
What BRAND of 4GB mini SD card did you get working with your "XDA mini S" (and did you have any problems once you'd actually started using it to store anything over a few MB)?

Tresend 4gb mini-SD card doesn't work with Treo 750...

stay away from ebay when buying memory(card, flash drive, etc...)
90% of them are fake. Although they might work just fine, chances are it'll crap out on u eventually.

WISH I WOULD OF FOUND THIS SITE EARLIER.
Yeah I just bought a transcend 4 GIG mini-sd for my TREO 750. IT makes the noise as the TREO recognizes it but it doesn't show up in file manager. I have formatted it with my USB SDHC card reader, I can only select FAT32, and it shows 3.75 GIG.
NO GO ON TREO 750 (CINGULAR)
-anyone have any ideas on how to get it to work?
-Keith
please email me
[email protected]

Will 4GB mini SD card work?

Will a 4GB mini SD card work in the Trinity (Orange SPV M700)?
If so which 4GB card will work (Please send me a link for UK purchase).
Thanks in advance

I do have 4GB minisd card, showing total memory 3982,20 MB
bought on ebay!

Which type (OEM 4gb mini sd, MEMOQ 4gb minisd ...)of them works???thanks a lot

4gb Mini Sd
Something recognizes this company?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4GB-MINI-SD-M...96415249QQcategoryZ118260QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I am using 4G SDHC without problem

SHATTAH100 said:
Something recognizes this company?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4GB-MINI-SD-M...96415249QQcategoryZ118260QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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i'm also interested in knowing the quality and reliability of this card
TOPRAM minisd 4GB
any idea??

I'm using a standard mini 4GB sd - no probs at all.
Filled it up with about 3GB of media and prog files so far.
Formated it using Pocket Mechanic.
Takes an age to defrag

how long have all of you had the 4GB mini sd cards? i have heard of people having them working for a couple of months but they die after a few months.
thanks

I need to know too
Interested in topram as it seems to have the best rep

Didn't work for me :-(
I bought a TwinMOS 4 GB MiniSD HC Class 2
Can't get it to work at all...
If anyone else has a 4 GB MiniSD working can you post the details of it? Cheers!

I am using two 4GB TOPRAM mini SD since one week ago and I haven't had any problems. I bought them in ebay to Kofkl and Erkirkland. Do not buy to Mobilemem (not reliable Supplier).

well i had a 2gb right now topram, kind of died i believe, the computer seems to see something but just hangs and then says i either dont have a device in, or get an I/O device error i believe :/
but i was really looking into the 4gb topram one, but also want to know who had one for over a few months working still as some people reported them to not work after a while??
and were are the other manufactures that have 4gb NONE sdhc :/ MiniSD

I use a Sandisk 4 GB mini SDHC Card without any problems.

ulischultz said:
I use a Sandisk 4 GB mini SDHC Card without any problems.
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I'm glad to hear that your SDHC card is working well. What rom version are you running and have you done any tweaks to your device? Also, do you use the Windows Media Player on your Trinity? I'm just trying to track down where the problems could come from. Thanks.

I bought a 4Gb mini SD from mobymemory. It came with a nice little adaptor/keyring too.
Unfortunately it kept corrupting data from day 1. Files and folders being deleted, then named with strange characters.
To give mobymemory credit they got me an RMA very quickly and refunded me within a week.
In the end I went for a 1Gb card from Crucial (as was in a desperate rush). £10 with special next day delivery. Wanted 2Gb but they weren't in stock that day.

MobyMemory's 4GB miniSD is working fine with mUn's latest WM6 ROM(2.0.0.SE), filled it up with music and no problem so far(some user reported that MM's 4gb card worked nice until it was filled with more that 2GB of data, so, I decided to test that with mUn's ROM).
With a previous WM5 & LVSW WM6 rom(2.0.0.3) I had a few issues, a couple of 100% percent data loss events lol, it hapened whenever I stressed the card, i.e. listening to music while playing a game installed on the card, power off the device while still playing the game( or auto power off if the music was paused ) and powering the device on again.

My MiniSD 4GB memory card worked fine for only one month! After that My trinity stacked and had to to soft reset wich time I pushed the start menu, all this with the old ROM without GPS.
I've inserted in a card reader, and copied everything to a folder in the host pc, formated the 4gb card copied again everything to the card, udated the ROM and is workig very fine so far, until when????

Kingston doesn't work - SPV does not see it at all.

Sandisk MiniSDHC
I'm using a Sandisk 4 GB miniSDHC Card for about 2 weeks now without any problems.

dave the hampster said:
I'm using a standard mini 4GB sd - no probs at all.
Filled it up with about 3GB of media and prog files so far.
Formated it using Pocket Mechanic.
Takes an age to defrag
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Defragmenting Memory Cards is completely useless There is no Harddisk Head running around on your SD Card, so defragmenting is useless. And: SD Cards only have a limited count of read/write cycles which will be reduced by defragmenting them.

Touch Pro corrupting my 16GB and 8GB MicroSDHC Cards... I´m the only one ?

Hello !
Someone got the same problem ?
My
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Raph100,
1.90.401.1 WWE,
1.02.25.19,
52.33.25.17W
HTC Touch Pro T7272
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corrupted my 8GB Sandisk Ultra II after 3 days of use.
The card could be read INSIDE of my Raphael but not on my PC with different card readers. This would be a minor problem but my Raphael also destroyed randomly files on the card too.
I thought the Micro SDHC Card was defective and send it back.
Now I own a Sandisk 16GB Card and it got also courrupted in like 2 days of use.
Some file from my *Notes* was thrashed and other files followed.
Raphael will try to open the file and then stay busy. After like 20 seconds a message containing "There is not enough memory " pop up... (150MB free ram should be enough to open a 2 kb Notes-file )
Wierd thing -> My *old* Sandisk 6 GB MicroSDHC Card I own for more than half a year now works flawlessly... (Till yet )
Someone here got the same experiences ?
Someone got some advice for me ?
I read something about updated SD sdrivers from member Tucan which he cooked into a german stock rom. Are they any good for me ?
Is there a Rom which should solve my problems ?
Help will be really appreciated !!

im sorry but the new memory you have must be fake, that explains why it works with your old mem, and why after sending it back, the same place sent you another fake.

Oh lord here we go, I just ordered my 8gb MicroSDHC card from newegg since the Fuze will be out soon I hope this isn't a common problem.

I corrupted my 8GB once, but by my own fault. I was in the middle of a transfer and was connected as a hard drive, not through activesync, and hit the power button which disconnected it from the computer. I hooked it up as a hard drive again, went into windows and reformatted the MicroSD... No issues from then on.

ice_coffee said:
im sorry but the new memory you have must be fake, that explains why it works with your old mem, and why after sending it back, the same place sent you another fake.
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I ordered both cards from completly different places, so that is unlikely.
They did work normaly (some days) even on my PC, so I guess it is my Raph which corrupted them
Black93300ZX said:
I corrupted my 8GB once, but by my own fault. I was in the middle of a transfer and was connected as a hard drive, not through activesync, and hit the power button which disconnected it from the computer. I hooked it up as a hard drive again, went into windows and reformatted the MicroSD... No issues from then on.
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I´m always *releasing* my harddrives/cards (on my PC) with the icon in the lower right corner to be save from what you experienced.
Oh man. I have the 16GB Card sitting here and cant use it... I will try it in my old XDA Trion (aka Hermes) for the next days ...
Anyway thanks for your replys !
Someone else has some thoughts about the problem ?
Maybe it has something to do with all the powersaving *features* beeing enabled through -Advanced Config 3.2- and -Diamond Tweak- ?

Well I'm using the same rom as you and was using an 8gb Sandisk card until I got a 16gb Sandisk card and both work flawlessly I'm afraid. I have also applied the power saving tweaks you mention with no ill effect.

using 8gb for about a month now, no problems at all.

Oh, I should mention I've heard many people talk about how there were a lot of Tilts that corrupted MicroSD cards. It was a flaw from the factory, apparently affected a number of them. I wouldn't be surprised of HTC saw some of the same issues with the Fuze, knowing all of the issues they've had already.

My 8gb card works just fine.
For reference, I'm using an A-DATA Class-6 8gb microSD purchased from NewEgg. Cheap, fast, reliable, perfect.

16gb bog standard San Disk Micro SD is working fine at the moment.
Formatted using Panasonic's SD Formatter as I corrupted it before I even put it in the Pro.

my 8GB works fine too

Maybe if everybody posts the brand name of their cards we can determine if this has something to do with the issues.
I remember with my Hermes I had to get a specific brand and produced from a certain plant to not have any issues. I still have my Kingston Micro SD from the Japan plant with no issues.

Using 8Gb and 16Gb of Sandisk with no probs on my Touch Pro.

Hi,
I may be barking up the wrong tree here but are you sure you have not enabled the Encryption setting under Settings. This will encrypt the storage card so it can only be read from the phone. Removing the card and placing in a PC or Laptop would show up as corrupted.
I selected it by mistake once and it corrupted my folder tree and showed garbage.
Not saying this is what is up but is worth looking at.
Personally I have a 16GB SanDisk card in my Touch Pro and it been OK. Been running for about 3 weeks now.
John

maybe the cardreaders from youre PC are not compatible with sdhc.

This is redundand and it may be opinion but im looking into buying a class 6 8gig. Is adata reliable? What company is the best in your opinions for what im looking for. Fastest?

sdlopez83 said:
This is redundand and it may be opinion but im looking into buying a class 6 8gig. Is adata reliable? What company is the best in your opinions for what im looking for. Fastest?
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Sandisk. Always. Forever. For my memory cards at least

FYI...
I put a 16Gb Sandisk in my TP on monday (5 days ago)... not a single problem with it and no corrupted files either.
I was previously using my 4Gb Sandisk card from my old Kaiser... which also worked perfectly fine.

Had a Sandisk 8GB card in mine, no problems. Now have a 16GB Sandisk, no problems.
For me I'll buy Sandisk, and only Sandisk, for my memory cards.

I have the very chip you described in my kaiser (class 6 a-data 8gb) runs without a problem. I've never really had much problems with microsd chips but I gotta admit I got a little worries when this thread poped up not so much about the chip but the phone itself, I've never had a bad chip in my life bought about 20 or so thus far, the a-data does well in terms of speed nothing to be excisted about but for it's class and size it holds its own.