Success in creating BigStorage 1.11 Chinese ROM - JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading

Thanks to various pioneers on this forum - I have just updated the Dopod 1.11 CHT ROM to have access to 26.72M Storage.
1. Use the official Dopod link www.dopod.com.tw/download/Dopod818_1110_153_11100_Ship.exe to update the ROM to CHT 1.11.
Use MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe if your pocket pc is not a Dopod 818.
2. Run RomUpdate.exe to dump the ROM to SD Card.
3. Run "ntrw read chtbig.nb1 s:" where s: is the SD drive.
4. Use HexEditor to modify "80 00" to "b8 01" at the following two locations of chtbig.nb1 - 00007e4a and 01fc232e.
5. Run "ntrw write chtbig.nb1 s:".
6. Flash the pocket pc with the new ROM on SD card.
The key is about identifying the right locations of the ROM to modify. Please note that different machines and different ROM versions will have different addresses to modify.

Thanks for your explanation
How to identify the right locations to modify?
I just have my O2 mini upgraded to 1.12.00WWE and would like to modify it to bigstorage.
Regards

Woo ~~ good job !! but can you show more for point 4
Talents said:
4. Use HexEditor to modify "08 00" to "b8 01" at the following two locations of chtbig.nb1 - 00007e4a and 01fc232e.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23250&sid=97eea813b4222410de0a3e6fbb2f9390

Hey ! I got it. now my O2 had 27MB storage and CHT 1.11 rom . :lol:

I am glad that the method works on the pocket pc of others.
In theory, this DIY method should work for any newly released ROM versions, unless HTC changes the coding structure.

Thanks. It works for me too.
Just a reminder for others: The first boot will takes about 5 mins for formating the storage space.

yes, I have also encountered this problem but my O2 mini is work fine now.

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Still no body knows how to unlock the ext-rom?

Still no body knows how to unlock the ext-rom? I try everyehere here, but still no one can do it?
I've been wondering that myself since I moved over from a PDA2k and saw how easy it was to do it there with the Unlocker tools.
Apparently, since it's so comparatively new and the architecture is allegedly different from some of the other models, the only individual who went far enough to hack it is no longer active or no longer a willing participant in the community. His much-appreciated hack simply cleared out the Extended ROM area and moved it into the usable Storage memory area.
Until we get more people who are acclimated and bold enough to risk tinkering with their Magician models, it's either an all-or-nothing scenario when it comes to the Extended ROM. For me, I decided to hold out from installing the "BigStorage" hack until I know we can easily go back and forth without jeopardizing our devices with SD card-flashing techniques. There seems to be too many variables (read: ROM variations) to make me feel comfortable about possibly flashing some other carrier's version or rendition of the ROM onto my i-mate NA-850MHz JAM.
Ext rom
Ok Beondthetech I understand - it's not to easy load aplications to ext rom (like MDA2) . We wont personalize our devices after loading system ( after Hard reset ). Aplications like ewallet , callmanager , ... etc. Metod is not relevant. W wont only automatically instal other programs ( not included on rom ). Or what's the metod to enrich orginal rom. But I prefer upload ext rom. Tools like Unhide and Unlock not work ( Error: FL_IOCTL_HW_PROTECTION- Yhe parameter is incorrect). When I try something write i saw Cannot copy : error code 19 The media is write protect (after use loadvdisk.exe) Thanks for all replies . Sorry for my english.
As I understand it, the memory configuration and layout is different between the Blue Angel and the Magician devices, so the Unlock tools won't work.
I decided to remove my Extended ROM portion altogether and use Anansky's BigStorage hack. I now have 27MB of Storage area instead. I copied out the Extended ROM's CAB files and incorporated it into my normal "build" when redoing all my applications on a new device.
How to make your own ExtROM for the Magician
I recently managed to make my own ExtROM for my Magician.
A short howto:
1. First dump your rom to a SD-card, using the well know method.
2. Next get the rom to your pc, using ntrw
3. Using a Hex-editor, copy 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) to a file.
4. Mount that file as a virtual Harddisk (I use the virtualdisk-plugin for total commander)
5. Modify your ExtROM on that Virtualdisk.
6. Umount the Virtualdisk.
7. paste the contents of the (modified) file back into the rom-file, at precicly the same position and save it under a different name.
8. put the modified rom back onto your SD-card, using ntrw.
9. Flash your Magician, with the new rom.
Have fun with your modified ExtRom
Re: How to make your own ExtROM for the Magician
DrChair said:
I recently managed to make my own ExtROM for my Magician.
A short howto:
1. First dump your rom to a SD-card, using the well know method.
2. Next get the rom to your pc, using ntrw
3. Using a Hex-editor, copy 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) to a file.
4. Mount that file as a virtual Harddisk (I use the virtualdisk-plugin for total commander)
5. Modify your ExtROM on that Virtualdisk.
6. Umount the Virtualdisk.
7. paste the contents of the (modified) file back into the rom-file, at precicly the same position and save it under a different name.
8. put the modified rom back onto your SD-card, using ntrw.
9. Flash your Magician, with the new rom.
Have fun with your modified ExtRom
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Does that remove the simlock?
Re: How to make your own ExtROM for the Magician
Oesie said:
Does that remove the simlock?
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Nope, it's only a way to customize which things are installed after a hard-reset.
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
Hi!
I can not find this section in my file. i use hdd Hex editor. see the attachment. thankx
Pamela said:
Hi!
I can not find this section in my file. i use hdd Hex editor. see the attachment. thankx
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You miss understand. 2BC019C (HEX) is Location not Content.
ups...
Sorry... :wink:
thankx
Pamela, he is referring to the exact position in the file, not a hex string to search for.
The idea is that you're ripping a chunk out of the ROM dump and turning that into a mountable volume, to which you can modify the contents, then inject the modified chunk back into the ROM dump, then SD-flash your device.
3EC019C hex = 65,798,556 decimal
2BC019C hex = 45,875,612 decimal
65,798,556 - 45,875,612 = 19,922,944 bytes
So, from the ROM dump you make, you'll be ripping out nearly 19 MB into a file that you'll use as a "virtual hard disk" to make changes as necessary.
WinHex and UltraEdit are two good hex editors, and WinHex is good for ripping chunks out and injecting them back in (you don't want to "insert" the code, but replace the 19,922,944 bytes with your modifications - inserting will make the ROM dump file larger and corrupt it).
little_frog said:
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
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I was trying to understand Anansky's bigstorage rom, by comparing it with my own rom, when I stumled over something that looked very much like a FAT16 bootsector. So I had the start-address. Knowing that the size of the ext-rom was 1300000 (hex) it's simple math to find the end-address.
DrChair said:
little_frog said:
Hi DrChair,
I have a question for you. How did you find out that The LOC 2BC019C (HEX) till 3EC019C (HEX) is the ExtROM ?
Thanks
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I was trying to understand Anansky's bigstorage rom, by comparing it with my own rom, when I stumled over something that looked very much like a FAT16 bootsector. So I had the start-address. Knowing that the size of the ext-rom was 1300000 (hex) it's simple math to find the end-address.
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Thanks.. DrChair
BeyondtheTech said:
Pamela, he is referring to the exact position in the file, not a hex string to search for.
The idea is that you're ripping a chunk out of the ROM dump and turning that into a mountable volume, to which you can modify the contents, then inject the modified chunk back into the ROM dump, then SD-flash your device.
3EC019C hex = 65,798,556 decimal
2BC019C hex = 45,875,612 decimal
65,798,556 - 45,875,612 = 19,922,944 bytes
So, from the ROM dump you make, you'll be ripping out nearly 19 MB into a file that you'll use as a "virtual hard disk" to make changes as necessary.
WinHex and UltraEdit are two good hex editors, and WinHex is good for ripping chunks out and injecting them back in (you don't want to "insert" the code, but replace the 19,922,944 bytes with your modifications - inserting will make the ROM dump file larger and corrupt it).
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Wow! Is it possible for any1 to make an App that will do this Automatically? similar to the bytecopy app provided by some1 in this forum(great work btw!)? Or go the distance and upload a cooked ROM with the most useful apps that will go in after a Hard Reset?(based on the experience of the gurus and nice peeps in the house)
Use at own risk.
Sorry if it sounds too technical, but theoretically, one can go into the bootloader mode of the Magician and just dump the Extended ROM area to the SD card (i.e. d2s 82BC019C 83EC019C [untested!]), then 'ntrw read' it, mount it, edit it, unmount it, 'ntrw write' it, then 's2d 82BC019C 83EC019C' to write it back to the Magician.
I haven't found any documentation on 's2d' so that might be the reason he's dumping the entire ROM, then extracting the Extended ROM portion.
There are a good threads on how d2s/s2d is used on an iPAQ and an XDA II, but I'm sure it can be applied to most Pocket PCs:
http://discuss.pocketnow.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=46855
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/PDAforum_posts.asp?TID=62&PN=1
And these are possible commands and its arguments for use in the bootloader mode:
http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/h2200-port/1/0146.html
Hi!
I have problems to mount the file to a disk. What ending should the file have? *.iso *.nrg ???!!!
i also have problems with total commander. the plugin does not work...
Plz HELP!
Pam
Hi!
now i fixed my problems... thankx
But an other question:
Is it possible to create a small ext. Rom only for IIWPO so that the rest of the Storage is useable to install Programms in?
What about a NEW self cooked Rom with IIWPO. There are many threads about this with the other HTC devices. Is it possible with the Magician without loosing the Big Storage??
Thankx. By, Pam
BeyondtheTech said:
theoretically, one can go into the bootloader mode of the Magician and just dump the Extended ROM area to the SD card (i.e. d2s 82BC019C 83EC019C [untested!])
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That would be d2s 82c00000 83f00000
BeyondtheTech said:
I haven't found any documentation on 's2d' so that might be the reason he's dumping the entire ROM, then extracting the Extended ROM portion.
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I didn't know that command existed. I thought i tried that once (s2d, without any arguments) to flash back a entire rom when I'd put back the sd-card when i was already in BL-mode, but iirc that gave me an "Invalid Command" message...
Anyways i'll give it another try this weekend.
And thanks for the url's, already googled for boatloader commands but found none
Pamela said:
Is it possible to create a small ext. Rom only for IIWPO so that the rest of the Storage is useable to install Programms in?
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I'm still trying to figure that out aswell, but uptill now without any succes...
It would be nice to have approx 10 MB ext-rom and the rest added to storage.

The Most Direct Method to get BigStorage

So far, we know that BigStorage can be created for 1.11 or 1.12 ROMs by replacing 80 00 with b8 01 at the following two locations:
English version (i-mate JAM, T-mobile compact, etc.)
7e32 and 211e32e
French version (qtek, etc.)
7e32 and 212332e
German version (T-mobile compact, etc.)
7e32 and 213232e
Traditional Chinese version (Dopod 818, O2 Asia, etc.)
7e4a and 1fc232e
Simplified Chinese version (Dopod 818, etc.)
7e42 and 1fc232e
It seems that the two locations change with the language, rather than the brand. Older ROM versions have different locations.
Could anybody provide the locations of other language versions for the reference of those who need them?
Please note that some have reported success in creating the BigStorage by replacing the bytes at the first location only, leaving the second location unchanged.
For those who need a summary of the steps:
1. Dump your original ROM to SD card. (romupdate.exe and ntrw.exe)
2. Edit your own ROM. (hex editor)
i.e. search for the two locations in the ROM with "02 00 00 80 00 20" and replace 80 00 with b8 01.
3. Write the edited ROM back to the Magician and hard reset your machine. (ntrw.exe)
That's it!
- no more downloading of others' BigStorage ROMs
- no need to replace the first 416 bytes
- no more unsolicited splash screens
- a simple, safe, do-it-yourself method to create your own BigStorage based on whatever ROM version you already have or upgraded.
Thank you so much.
I have an Italian ROM. Can anybody give me some help?
Talents,
A good assurance for people....
Nice one
I put this together with bits taken from this forum
Does anyone know if this will work for older versions of the ROM (i.e. 1.03 or 1.06)? I still am having problems with the GPRS with the newer ROMs so I would like to apply the BigStorage to older ROMs.
Thank you,
F
I used this method on the 1.03 wwe version and it is working perfectly. I used the same method as described. Found the two locations made the changes etc. and all is well.
Thanks, I will try it out
NTRW PROBLEM
Everytime i try to run NTRW
i get the following message
USAGE: NTRW FILE DRIVE:
and it doesn't create a file
what am i doing wrong?
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micha said:
Everytime i try to run NTRW
i get the following message
USAGE: NTRW FILE DRIVE:
and it doesn't create a file
what am i doing wrong?
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You seem to have an old version of ntrw. Get the latest one (2.0) from this forum's FTP server.
Cheers
Daniel
Worked for me with French_11202_125_11210 8)
The first reboot took more than 5 min though.
glad to know that it works on your French ROM.
We should have warned everyone to be patient with the first boot up after upgrading. It takes 5-10 minutes to format the BigStorage, with the screen apparently "stuck" at the splash screen.
I've found a .nb1 file for BigStorage on the ftp server of this forum. I think it's the BigStorage version for ROM 1.12. Is it possible to use that file and enable BigStorage without a cardreader?
For example, when you execute the upgrade program an TEMP directory is created with a bunch of files in it. If I were to copy those files (which also include some .nb1 files) and replace one of those with the one I found on the ftp, would that give me BigStorage?
Welrogie,
I was actually thinking the same thing as you...
Although if it were possible, I'm sure someone would have posted somewhere on this site anyway (?)
BigStorager work great for 1.12 FR ROM
many thanks
your post is excellent, did it to a 1.12 and no probs, please just check the pdf instruction sheet as it mentions 2 different file names, 1 to download from SD card and another to upload, maybe I misread it but I just uploaded the modified version of the file I downloaded and it all went swimmingly. cheers
Just carrying out a few 'test' searches on rom files to locate the necessary information...
On the 3 that I have performed the search on, i seem to find the bytes ok but the locations never matches the one stated by Talents and others. Does it matter that they appear in different locations than the ones specified?
Thanks.

Upg to 1.13 WWE ROM (with 1.13 Radio) in 10 easy steps!

I just finished upgrading from Qtek 1.11 WWE Big Storage ROM to T-Mob 1.13 WWE Big Storage (with 1.13 Radio). Since the information available on the forum is spread over many threads, I thought I would amalgamate everything here ...
NB: ampda_How_To_PPC_Upgrades_V1.pdf (attached) tells you how to use ALL the tools I mention ... thanks to ampda for this useful write-up!
Before you start:
a) Take full backup of your PPC on SD using Sprite Backup or any other 3rd party app.
b) Take copy of SD on PC
Now for the ROM upgrade ...
1. Take backup of existing ROM (mine was BigStorage 1.11) on SD using romupdate.exe (attached) - Sec. 4 in PDF
2. Convert ROM (now on SD after step 1) to PC using ntrw ver2.0 (attached) - Sec. 5in PDF
3. Install 1.13 T-Mob NL WWE ROM (from ftp ... ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/NL_11300_131_11200.exe) using MaUpgradeUt_noID (attached)
4. Follow on-screen instructions and reset device just before installing customisations (to make extended ROM accessible)
5. Copy Extended ROM to PC (for later use) using Windows Explorer
6. Install 1.13 Radio using MagicianRadio_1.13.00.zip from FTP (attached).
This will hard rerset again so make sure you press the reset before T-Mob customisation starts.
7. Repeat steps 3 and 4 to create an nb1 file of your new 1.13 ROM on PC
8. Open your new nb1 file with a Hex editor (download the latest FREE version from http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html), locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 (at 3 locations in this version of ROM - not just 2)
9. Transfer your new ROM to SD card using ntrw ver 2.0 - Step 7 in PDF
10. Dump your new Big Storage ROM onto your Magician - Step 8 in PDF
You will note that after step 10 your Magician will take a VEEEERY LONG time to boot the first time. This is normal.
Install any required Extended ROM programs from the folder created in step 5 above. To install these CAB files just copy them anywhere on your PPC and click once to install.
Enjoy!
tnx I'm going too try this!
It has been several months since I last visited this forum. I am wondering, why do we need to install the 1.13 Radio using MagicianRadio_1.13.00.zip in step 6?
I thought the 1.13 T-Mob NL WWE ROM should already have the 1.13 Radio... or is it unstable?
Thanks.
programatix said:
It has been several months since I last visited this forum. I am wondering, why do we need to install the 1.13 Radio using MagicianRadio_1.13.00.zip in step 6?
I thought the 1.13 T-Mob NL WWE ROM should already have the 1.13 Radio... or is it unstable?
Thanks.
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Nope, it has radio 1.12 (don't know why, radio version 1.13 is out for many months now...)
KoBolD said:
tnx I'm going too try this!
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Tell us how it goes :wink:
pietrucci said:
Nope, it has radio 1.12 (don't know why, radio version 1.13 is out for many months now...)
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Ok, thanks for the answer. Actually I'm already using radio 1.13 for months already. Now I'm wondering about the changes from rom 1.12 to 1.13... any idea? Does the Pocket IE (with SBP Plus installed) works correctly when mutiple windows are opened?
Thanks again.
i cannot convert ROM to PC using ntrw.exe
i hav follow the instruction by ampda_how_to_PPC_Upgrades_V1.pdf,
and i hav in section 5. i cannot convert the ROM to PC.
its appear:
c:\>ntrw read myrom.nb1 l:
usage: ntrw file drive:
can anyone helps me???
urgenttttt.....
it seems easier just to decode nbf, make bigstorage patch,
change header to what's in DeviceData.txt
and then encode and flash using ROMUpgradeUt
All steps:
1. run NL_11300_131_11200.exe - this will
2. unpack files to temp - copy them ! and
3. write DeviceData.txt to \Windows - copy this one too and view with notepad
4. decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1
5. hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt and
6. replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor
7. encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
8. run ROMUpgradeUt.exe to upgrade CE image
also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Attach: src+bin of enc/dec utility for nbf format used in ROMUpgradeUt.exe ver. 3.0.1.0
bin is in the Release folder
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
kta said:
NB: ampda_How_To_PPC_Upgrades_V1.pdf (attached) tells you how to use ALL the tools I mention ... thanks to ampda for this useful write-up!
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Thanks for the thanks much appreciated
Re: it seems easier just to decode nbf, make bigstorage patc
hlt said:
it seems easier just to decode nbf, make bigstorage patch
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Hi hlt,
I tried your description and all I can say is: IT WORKS! And in my humble opinion this is the easiest method for BigStorage. I've some extra info in your steps, the parts where I had questions, for others to profit.
All steps:
1. unzip NL_11300_131_11200.exe (or any other shipped rom)
2. copy the getdevicedata.exe to your magician and execute to write DeviceData.txt to \Windows and view with notepad
4. decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1
5. hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt (probably only if using a rom from other provider)
6. replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor
7. encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
8. run ROMUpgradeUt.exe to upgrade CE image
also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
Thanks a lott for this wonderful piece of code,
M
Thanks Alot, your guide has allowed me to upgrade from a very early rom to this new one which makes my mdac so much faster! i recommend this upgrade route to everyone!
thanks again
R
thanxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi I have a question. Its been months also since I visited thise site and I didnt know there is already a new ROM for the XDA-Mini. My Rom version is 1.11.00 WWE and I did the Big Storage trick before so I dont have the ExtRom now.
If I upgrade to this new ROM versions, will I get a ExtROM back again or I still have the Big Storage?
thanks so much...
You will get the EXTROM back. The removal of EXTROM has to be done for every ROM you install, hence steps 8 to 10 above
I guess there will always be a chance of things going wrong, but as you don't forget to locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 in your decoded nk.nb1 and use the re-encoded nk.nbf in the upgrade you'll have BigStorage. I did it with a crippled magician, I lost all my storage with a BigStorage attempt, and it gave me back a 26.72MB storage. Now I'm moving a lot of files over to storage, so far all my 'program files' are there and large ones like album and camera. After moving some registry and shortcut changes are needed, but it works. Now got 8Mb in main memory stored and this is with a complete ext-rom installed (manually), MMS, Blackberry and Caller Id are quite large and will be gone this week after a planned hard-reset. First I need to figure out some more files to move. Keep in mind that programs from storage are starting slower than from main memory, especially when you move over the 'program files' and dll's as well.
Good luck, M
kta said:
You will get the EXTROM back. The removal of EXTROM has to be done for every ROM you install, hence steps 8 to 10 above
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thanks, kta for the info.
I'm itching to give it a try now. But wait....is the ROm upgrade v1.13 that you guys are talking about here, applicable to all kinds of XDA-Mini? I mean I am using the O2 XDA-Mini purchased here in the Philippines. Its asian version but its "english".
Because I remember the last upgrade I did which procedure I got from here also...I got the upgrade procedure from a thread specified for XDA Asian version. This time, I couldnt see a thread for Asian XDA specifically....instead I see there's a common thread for all. But its a T-mobile rom, isnt it? Am I in the right thread?
thanks....
Hello dinoalbert,
This is a WWE rom, haven't found an asian 1.13 on the ftp. There's only one asian rom there: o2asia_11100_922_11100_ship.exe, don't know which rom you have currently so maybe you can use it. I guess the trick with exchanging radio's and the BS trick will work, won't know why not.
Gr. M
dinoalbert said:
thanks, kta for the info.
I'm itching to give it a try now. But wait....is the ROm upgrade v1.13 that you guys are talking about here, applicable to all kinds of XDA-Mini? thanks....
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Yes, this ROM is good for all variants of the HTC Magician, except the 850MHz radio version. You would need a different RADIO for that.
KTA,
Do you know the difference between the 1.12 radio and the 1.13 version? Also the 1.12 in the shipped rom has a newer file-date than the 1.13 one, or is t-mob on a different number scheme?
Thanks,
M
@oltp
yup thats the one that I have now...ma_o2asia_11100_922_11100_ship......thats the last ROM upgrade I did which I also got it from here last May or June I think. But that seem to be along time ago already....so I was wondering if there is a new ROM upgrade now.
@kta
so you mean I can go ahead and upgrade my rom to the latest 1.13 rom? My current radio version I think came with that rom i mentioned above...ite version 1.11.00
so what will happen if I upgrade to the latest rom? Why do I need a different radio version?
thanks again...

Storage Problems for a non developer

Hi
I know there are lots of people asking how to save space and mostly they get told to use 'search' and check the stickys.
I'm a keen gadget lover but have no technical background. I have a 64mb Tmobile MDA (with the horrible branding) and the following setup:
R 1.00.10
G 1337.36
D 1.01.00 WWE
I've heard/seen references to big storage etc but I don't really understand it.
Can someone either give me:
- a really simple way to update my rom etc, or
- suggest another way to delete stuff that I won't need (don't want to delete stuff only to find half the programs no longer work)
- explain the easiest way to get rid of all the Tmobile stuff
Many thanks in advance
To prevent the Branding stuff from loadibg you must hard-reset your magician (backup first!!) and after the initialization (calibration etc) you must soft-reset just before the customization starts. You got about 3 to 5 seconds to press the softreset, so when your screen reads 'tap screen to start using ....' you put the stylus in soft-reset hole & then tap the screen. As soon as the default blue WM background appears you press the stylus to soft-reset.
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
To gain more storage you can move camera & album from \windows to storage folder. Remember to change shortcuts & registry as well. This saves ariund 1MB. More is possible: I've got < 8MB ram memory allocated to installed stuff with almost all ext-rom cabs installed. Yes I moved a lot.
To gain BIGstorage you can follow instructions below, but first you should get more familiar with the magician I guess. You can save your ext-rom cabs though & update to rom 1.13
url in instructions. To upgrade you just connect the magician to usb & start the downloaded shipped-rom & follow the instructions. Make a backup first & write down your gprs settings, caus you'll have dutch ext-rom cabs after the update. They're in English but contain dutch TMO settings.
Instruction for BS:
- Get nbfdec.exe from the thread 'Upg to 1.13 WWE ROM (with 1.13 Radio) in 10 easy steps!' @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&start=0&sid=75c5e40168a22052fb7c5554bddd68c2
- get maupgradeut_noid.exe from the ftp
- Download the shipped rom from:
http://www.t-mobile.nl/zakelijk/htdocs/page/service/mda_compact_upgrade.asp
- Download the Hexeditor from:
http://www.hhdsoftware.com/hexeditor.html
1. Unzip NL_11300_131_11200.exe (or any other shipped rom)
2. Put NBFDEC in the same directory as the unzipped shipped rom files
3. Copy the getdevicedata.exe to your Magician and execute to write DeviceData.txt
to \Windows and view with notepad
5. Decode nk.nbf -> nk.nb1:
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
6. Hexedit header to correct ID from DeviceData.txt
(probably only if using a rom from other provider)
7. Replace pattern for bigstorage in hexeditor:
locate the 02 00 00 80 00 20 and change 80 00 to b8 01 in the nk.nb1
(use binary search for this!!)
7. Encode nk.nb1->nk.nbf
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
8. run maupgradeut_noid.exe to upgrade CE image
Also, this way you will save the contents of increased \Storage folder if previous rom was bigstorage one
Usage sample (must be run from the same folder as nbf files or specify full path):
nbfdec -d nk.nbf nk.nb1
nbfdec -e nk.nb1 nk.nbf
Regards, M
Many thanks OLTP for your reply....perhaps it's me but I still find that quite technical....when I have to rename stuff etc I'm not sure where it is to do it.
The tmobile branding piece is clear and I'll have a stab at that tonight though.
Perhaps I'm just destined to struggle with memory or buy a 128mb device.
Appreciate you taking the time though - anyone else want to have a pop at help a keen but useless gadget lover !
BS is unfortunately quite technical & this is the easiest way.
I suggest to remove the branding, that will save some storage. get more accustomed to your magician by exploring it without changing.
I can write you some steps for moving files to gain more ram.
maybe in the future you can think about BS again.
Cheers, M
pna: oltp's guide is about the best you'll ever get!
Basically, to debrand, do what he says in the first paragraph. This will remove all the additional TMobile gunk being installed. So, you need to hard reset (which will restore your system to "factory condition", and wipe everything), and then soft reset at the right time. Then you have a nice, fresh clean system. You can then read the board to see what files you might have skipped by achieving this, but frankly, you won't have missed much.
You can get your tmobile settings (for gprs etc) from here:
http://www.buymobilephones.net/sp3_setup.ihtml
FYI, before doing anything, get hold of a copy of GSFinder+ or a similar explorer. You will need it do any kind of installing/renaming etc.
Before venturing into the hardrest/soft reset business, consider if you want to do the big storage hack. Again, oltp's guide is perfect, but first the theory: the Extended Rom is like a small disk stuck inside your phone, carrying "backups" of the tmobile configuration stuff. If you do Bigstorage, it'll free that space for your use, giving you an extra 20mb or so to use for free. You can install stuff in there, and use it as a small, but bigger, disk to store stuff on. There's no reason not to do it, other than it's difficulty:
Difficulty? Yes, it takes some time, but instructions are provided, and clarified by oltp, so just follow the instructions carefully and you'll be fine.
It does require some knowledge, or confidence to learn.
So ideally, you want to:
1. Backup any files you want to keep.
2. Do Bigstorage.
3. Skip extended rom rubbish.
However, before you worry about bigstorage or anything technical, I suggest you just do this: clean up your system as it is now, and then just in future remember to install every program you want directly to your SD Card. If you do that, your system will generally have more than enough memory to run well. You can skip all the bigstorage and extended rom business. It's only necessary for those on a particularly tight memory budget. This should be fine for your needs I think.
FYI: to install onto your SD card, always choose NOT to use "main memory" when installing from your PC, or on the PDA, download and use a great program called cabinstl. That will allow you to install to your SD card.
V
oltp said:
Now you got a plain WM2003 device. & you got the ext-rom visible, not editable, so you can explore it & choose what to install. Network settings for gprs is set by one of the ext-rom cabs.
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oltp, do you mean I cant rename, move, or delete any of the files in extended rom? So its safe even if they show?
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
Sure,
You can use bal666's tool to convert the ext-rom part of a romdump to a diskimage which you can mount under Windows XP, with appropriate software ofcourse.
Then you can do whatever you want with your ext-rom. Requires flashing of your magician & a hard-reset.
For starters I recommend to skip executing of the ext-rom by applying a soft-reset just before the custmization starts after a hard-reset. This way you won't cripple your device.
M
Many thanks OLTP & vjay555,
The branding thing worked a dream and saved me 6mb.
Now want to do big storage. Have got all the downloads ready but just need a bit more help on the 1-8 settings.
I'm really sorry that I need such basic help - haven't really got a clue what I'm doing but prepared to give it a go - please help.
1. No problem with this...even I can do this.
2. Where is this...I assume I move them to the Magician using explore (through activesynch) - am I right...if so, is there an obvious place that the unzipped shipped rom files will be.
3. Can't find a copy of getdevicedata.exe, Where do i find it, and then how do I execute to write DeviceData.txt
5. Afraid I don't know how to do this
6. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
7. How do I do this
8. Happy to give this a go if I get this far
Also, a little confused in the section after no 8 - what do I do here?
Hope you haven't lost patience with me. Hope to hear back soon.
Cheers
Paul,
I recently updated the wiki (top right link on each forum page & go to the howto part of the magician section) with the BIG Storage from shipped-rom method. This contains some more info than this thread. Pls read it & mail me the remaining questions, you've got my email-address. I'll add some extra help then.
Cheers, M
Trying to download latest UK rom on WIKI site but the link to this ROM is not working: OS 1.12.00 / ExtROM 1.12.131 / Radio 1.12
Any ideas?
Ta
Yep a broken link, pls use this to go to the shipped rom section from the ftp: ftp://xda:[email protected]/Magician/Shipped_ROMS/
Maybe I take the time tomorrow to check some of the links
btw latest uk-rom should be 1.13WWE from TMO.
nm8 said:
oltp said:
Yes,
The magician ext-rom is write-protected. You can't delete the files. Nor format the space. Try it if you like with the delete of the file which mentions the loadvdisk. It's completely harmless, but if you want to be sure copy all cabs first to sd & execute them from there.
Btw the loadvdisk cab, present in a TMO ext-rom, will delete the loadvdisk.lnk from \windows\startup & that's why the ext-rom is hidden.
Cheers, M
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ok.
the thing is, i want to edit my own extended rom, so next time i do a hard reset, it wont install unnecessary junk like skype and other customisation. i also want to add programs to it so they autoinstall when i do a hard reset.
any advice?
cheers
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you may want to check this out at htt*://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=395&PN=1. it is based on bal666 info. go check it out.
That's about romcooking and can be found herevas well. It's no BS hack.
Yes, it's no BS. But just a little info for nm8 to do ext rom customizations from his last reply.

Telstra O2 XDA mini(Limited)

How do you change the Telstra System of my xda mini to an O2 system?
When I do a soft or hard reset a Telstra logo appears on the screen.
Would there ba a problem with this? I this even possible?
Sorry NEWBIE asking sirs!
The splash screen is changed easily to anything you like, just follow the sticky on the board. Changing your mini to O2 requires the O2 ext-rom files to 'brand' it. Visit the ftp ftp:\\xda:[email protected] for the ext-rom files. Best is to skip your current ext-rom (hard-reset, finish the initialization & just after the last tap on the screen you soft-reset quickly) & then install the O2 cab-files. Other possibility is to flash your rom. Visit the wiki (link on top of the page & goto magician & then exe upgrade) for this & get an O2 shipped-rom from the ftp (or anywhere else on the web).
Cheers, M
Ps I'd go for only the cab-files first. Flashing can be done later when you're more accustomed to your device.
oltp said:
Best is to skip your current ext-rom (hard-reset, finish the initialization & just after the last tap on the screen you soft-reset quickly) & then install the O2 cab-files.
Cheers, M
Ps I'd go for only the cab-files first. Flashing can be done later when you're more accustomed to your device.
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Thank you!
How do I install the CAB file?
Which CAB File(O2 version) in the Magician folder is best?
Best? I don't know but watch out, there's a lot of Asian stuff in it. Usually the highest number is the most recent version & preferred.
Just put the cab-files on your device, preferable the SD card via Act.sync or card reaser, then start the file explorer on your device. Navigate to the location you stored them & click on them to install. Might be that you want to install CabInstl first, then you can choose where the apps from the cab's are installed.
M

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