Well at last, looks like the makers of all previous incarnations of the XDA (XDA1 to XDA2i an 2s as marketed in the UK) are ready to release this to the world later this year, so I reckon this is the proof that many of us suspected anyway, this will be the XDA3! I guess this also means that we are never gonna get upgraded officially to WM2005 on the 2i or 2s.........hey ho....2003se seems ok so far.
http://www.htc.com.tw/news/index.html
Already announced as the MDA IV too - so the question is, will O2 call it the XDA IV or confuse the easily confused by having a IIi and a III?
I think O2 deliberately held off using the '3' so that they could use it on the first 3g device.
It would make a good name - XDA 3G
looks good..but
the only problem i think i will have is the thickness of it as it has a keyboard and prom the pix it looks pretty fat to be honest. also any1 no exactly when it comes out?..thinking of getting one
tried one of them 2 weeks ago - and it is really big!
bigger than the Blue Angel - and for me as a MDA Compact fan, just not the right device.
I don't want to have a small laptop with build in UMTS.
I want to have a mobile device like the Compact, with a video cam and build in UMTS.
The keyborad and additional space is just grap.
Just take a look at the number of sold Blue Angels vs Compacts/minis - the rate at T-Mobile is 1:4
1:4 it's just the ratio of people that need wifi on their usual day of work vs the ones who don't need it and are happy with something sticking out of their magicians...
XDA3 - MDA4 Unversal etc
Spoke to a contact at at o2 in the UK, and he reckons they aint gonna get the universal...............no idea why as they carry the X phone which is 3G, maybe a licensing issue in the UK, now that Vodaphone - Orange etc have jumped on the bandwagon and stolen o2's thunder in the last year or so....Its a great shame as without the foresight of o2, many XDA users wouldnt have been able to get one in the UK............................Come on o2, sort it, I hate orange and vodafone!
the whole reason O2 messed with the XDA II IIi IIs names is so the XDA4 would be called the XDA3 here, for 3G.
they WILL release it.
Just reallllllly laaaaaate.
Pyrofer said:
the whole reason O2 messed with the XDA II IIi IIs names is so the XDA4 would be called the XDA3 here, for 3G.
they WILL release it.
Just reallllllly laaaaaate.
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no it won't. if me sources are correct, they will imate to market.
if o2 dont carry it then cant people just buy the imate or qtek versions they are as a rule not locked at least my qteks never were then people can put in their o2 sim and all will be well
well I am delighted to have been mis informed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
looks like the xda3 (named EXEC) will happen in the uk from o2! sometime in September
PS Thanks to pjcltd and his info!
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Hello peeps!!!!!!
Anyone here knows if this is true??? Is XDA III exist??? where's the proofs? What is the estimated price? larger than 1000 US Dollar? is in it?
if not then it would prob not be on the frontpage of this site
http://forum.xda-developers.com/front_page.php
but people feel it's not big upgrade compared to xda2 since the only difference is that it have wifi and a keyboard
There are allready some pre-sales sampels out to some providers.
XDA III has definitely been confirmed and XDA IV has been rumoured
EXTRA EXTRA read all about it:
http://www.msmobiles.com/index.php/0,0,1.html
Just a few pictures of MDA III, I had it in hands, it is heavier but the battery is 1500 mAh, wlan on board etc.. [email protected]
Does it have Voice Dialing via a Bluetooth Headset? Handsfree Profile? That's the major reason I'd want to upgrade.
Wow, looks great, thanks for the pictures.
Any idea on a release date? :?:
I must say, this device is very well endowed with buttons. I see eight just in front, without being able to see any side buttons. This is without the keyboard.
Extra buttons... I would love those on my xda 2, so I could make it a more one-handed device.
Surur
Yeah one thing I dont realy like with my P800, no buttons on front, two on the side, Camera and internet(not opera! some no javascript browser!) The jog dial, which was great. But you can do anything with one hand!
So the XDA3 with keyboard and buttons is the reason why I am jumping boats from P800 to XDA LAND!
Can some body comfirm me that you can now buy this phone in Germany? I was in a T-Mobile shop today asking when it would come out and she said it was out in Germany stores but Austria is about 4months behind.
I dont think she is right, but just incase have anyone seen it there? or heard of some new info on the web, I can find anything new about it?
thanks
If my information source is correct I beleive the MDA III is coming out in Germany and the UK in September!
Guys,
Couple days ago I sold my PDA2K, now I'm totaly lost :?
What should I get????? In my signature you'd see what I had from handsets.. There's still the JAM and the XDAIIi..
I saw today the Nokia 9500, I kinda like it, but in a way I don't wanna revert back to nokia mobiles.
In Lebanon we don't have the XDAIIi yet since Imate didn't release it, thus I never liked the Magician, too small for a pocket pc.
So, tell me your opinions..
Thanks in advance.
MDA IV......?
I wait MDA/XDA IV.........
Well MDA IV could be the right one but we have to wait until the summer
(woo first post ^_^)
So.. umm yeah i expect there are a thousand of these posts around here and you're all fed up with talking about them. But i need to ask you people this...
XDA Mini S (i think this one is the "wizard" right?) or XDA Atom???
Simple issue here... i like the idea of the keyboard on the XDA Mini S, but im not sure if the processor is going to be up to scratch.
And i like the fact the atom has more processing power and a 2MPixel camera (but thats really not that important to me).
So... What would you suggest?
caff.
I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.
No, but presumably O2 would launch something like Xda Mini S2
... and you can always port your number. At the moment T-Mobile look well ahead with their tarrifs.
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ahh, i wish but no sorry.. im stuck with xda's as its an upgrade from o2 im getting.
if the processor in the xda mini s is good enough for pretty much everything then ill get that
caff.
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I have seen no problem with the O2 mini S processor speed. You have to remember that the processor speed looks slow, but in reality you are not comparing like with like, this is a Texas Instruments chip, with a different command set to other chips you are comparing it with.
I can run all the applications that I want, TomTom for example funs faster on here than on my Dell X5 (400 Mhz).
The one thing you have to remember is that you are not running a Pentium4 3Ghz 2Gig RAM 250Gb Hard drive machine, but a PDA with phone capabilities.
For me, its all I want in a phone/PDA I would not be without mine now.
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I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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I have a Universal, and a colleague just got one of the new JAM's this week (not the Hermes itself obviously), and I have to say, it makes me kinda want the same form factor again.
Sure I love the laptop type clamshell of the Universal, but usually end up holding the thing flat anyhow when the keyboard is out.
I like the protection a clamshell provides, but I can buy a case.
I like the SD card, but I don't swap my SD with my camera any more, and you can get 1GB Micro SD cards today.
I like the VGA screen, but I wonder if 640x480 is one reason why some map progs seem a bit more sluggish compared to my old slower-processored JAM?
Now that I can get a JAM-sized phone/PDA with 3G, I'm definitely buying the Hermes from T-Mobile when they release it in June as the MDA Vario II.
yeah bilbo i thinik your right, its all to do with comparisons.
but im pretty sure the omap 850 chip has a better cache then the intel chips in the xda IIi. So i think it will probably be ok
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck
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I suggest waiting for the HTC HErmes. It's got what you want in terms of processor and also keyboard
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Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.
bilbo_28 said:
Looking at the info on the Hermes, I think it has the same 416Mhz IntelXscale processor that my Dell X5 had 5 years go?
Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications.
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I think it has a 300MHz Samsung? But you're right - "Bigger numbers dont mean faster applications", which is why I'm not worried about it's 300MHz.
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caff said:
if no-one has any major objections i think im going to go for the xda mini s... that is unless the o2 shop guy turns around and tells me something new is coming out in a month hehe.
thanks all
caff.
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One thing to remember when you go to the O2 Shop is that they will charge you £79.99 for the phone on a contract that is less than £45 per month...... unless you ask then not to.
I got my XDA-mini-S soon after they came out. I went to the O2 Shop, looked interested until the guy said there was a charge. After very little he said that to get me on board an O2 tariff he would drop the charge.
Remeber they can and will drop the charge, if not go to walk out and see what they say.
Good luck
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Good advice, thanks
ill be going in on wednesday to purchase it, so ill let you all know how it goes
caff.
One thing that no one seems to mention is the screen. The atom has an 18 bit screen and that can give a hit on performance for graphic intensive programs. The transfer of those 18 bits as oppsed to the 16 in most other ppc is ineficient and for games = bad.
"TOUCH PRO" "TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO""TOUCH PRO"
my brain is now doing overtime........
When is HTC gonna give us break?
for the last few months i have been waiting with patients for my Diamond upgrade,
Now reading the Diamond posts and checking out
http://www.htc.com/www/default.aspx
i found out that the so called "TOUCH PRO" IS ON ITS WAY GRRRR!!!!!
What does 1 do????
wait again for it to come out,
which by dat time HTC will most probably bring out the "HTC TOUCH PRO DIAMOND ULTIMATE THINGY" or something....
here we go again.......
My advice dont get the 1st batch wait a little longer and you still wont be happy or have wot you wanted in the fist place...
"that didnt make sense see wot its doing to me"
I will do wot HTC wants:
Diamond 1st then wait for the Touch Pro....
So they can sell the same product again & again & again with suttle changes and a shiny new look....like every other company...
Lets have your comments or advice.....
Forget the Diamond - wait for the Pro.
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Forget the Diamond - wait for the Pro.
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when's it out though, and what century will it be on orange? i'm nearly tempted to go and get a iphone 16gig.
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i'm nearly tempted to go and get a iphone 16gig.
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Bite your tongue man!!
In IT, there is always something bigger and better just around the corner, you just have to decide when your going to bite the bullet and buy a phone.
HTC will soon make something better than the Pro, do you wait for that?
Diamond Pro for me
pro for me
i hope tmobile usa will get the pro by years end .... i like the diamond but the pro is the icing on the cake.... found out that tombile uk is getting one of them soon think its the diamond
I must admit that I'm getting tempted by the Diamond. Rumours are that it will be out on Orange in a few days. Still no word on the Pro.
Play.com say they're going to have them on 29 of August for £549.99
http://www.trustedreviews.com/mobile-devices/news/2008/07/03/HTC-Touch-Pro-Sim-Free-Priced-Dated/p1
Better start saving up!
expansys have the diamond in stock for around £400 ish, TBH HTC is not that pad, the Pro is essentially the long awaited successor to the Universal, there has been nothing pocetable with a
VGA screen
Fold out Keyboard
and up to date spec like in built GPS and HSDPA
since the Uni in 2005
ice_coffee said:
expansys have the diamond in stock for around £400 ish, TBH HTC is not that pad, the Pro is essentially the long awaited successor to the Universal, there has been nothing pocetable with a
VGA screen
Fold out Keyboard
and up to date spec like in built GPS and HSDPA
since the Uni in 2005
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The Universal isn't the most pocketable of devices... And there have been offerings from other companies (Toshiba G9XX anyone?), but the Raphael is probably the best yet!
lol i guess i must have big pockets, the uni was an excellent device in its time, and whilst there have been offerings from other manufacturers, I was talking about HTC
the only issue with either of these phones with me is that they are both only triband... i need quad..if it wasnt for that I would jump all over either one really.
From what I have been reading, wait for the Pro.. I am
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The Universal isn't the most pocketable of devices... And there have been offerings from other companies (Toshiba G9XX anyone?), but the Raphael is probably the best yet!
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G900, i have one and its higher res than the universal and roughly the same size as the TyTN
800x480. However, res aint everything. I am now downgrading on screen real-estate to an Omni because, whats the point in having a tv that will do 1080p but is only 32inch? There ain't none. I now question 640x480. It's all very well having sharpness but, on 2./3.2inch screens, that are essentialy phones, does it make any practical diference? I'm sure there are people who watch movies on there phones but no one can honestly say they are any good at this - yea, yeah, it will play and you can watch it but, come on, its rubbish quality compared to pmp's.
I spoke to orange cs today regarding the Diamond they said if HTC dont change their mind
it shoud be out by the middle of this month @ the latest.....
I've made my mind up im getting it... "THE HTC DIAMOND"
and i cant wait.
The last time i upgraded it became a 12 month contract in stead of 18 so it aint so bad....
""" if i hear that THE PRO wont be delayed much longer i just mite consider waiting"""
i got my ELF as soon as it was released & within a month they released the Vogue & the Nike...
I was gutted but then when i found out that the Nike aint got WiFi,smaller screen and a slide out keyboard that aint much help etc etc etc...i was smiling again (-)
but as 1 of you said ""DO YOU JUST KEEP WAITING AND NEVER HAVE WHAT YOU WANT""
I want 1 & i want it now.....
I cant believe how many ppl have viewed my post looks like its gonna go a long way.............keep em cumming......
Whats the difference
Between the Dimond and the Pro, is it just the keyboard or something else ?
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Between the Dimond and the Pro, is it just the keyboard or something else ?
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The Raphael also has 64MB extra RAM, and a MicroSD slot, but loses the 4GB internal memory...
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The Raphael also has 64MB extra RAM, and a MicroSD slot, but loses the 4GB internal memory...
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Thanks, no doubt its thicker as well, one of the reasons I sold my Kaiser and kept the Niki !!!
I have a few questions that I'm sure one of you all have the answer to. I am in dire need of a new phone, currently using a pos Treo 750. I am stuck between the Xperia and the Touch Pro as most are. Will the Touch Pro work on the T-mobile USA network? Do I have to wait for a US release of the phone or can I purchase one overseas to use thats unlocked? Sorry for all the question but I'm kinda new to all this.
Ok, so I have a decision to make, and only till Wednesday to make it ...
Currently, I have the Palm Treo Pro. It's a GOOD phone, I LOVE the keyboard and I love how small/light it is. I DO NOT like the proprietary USB of the "end" key as its uber sensitive. Also, most of my programs don't work on the screen (OliveTree Bible, Mud Inc. Pocket Cribbage, and Handmark Monopoly V1) ... so my other options are
HTC Diamond - I get $ back, but, I lose microSD Card or HTC Pro, I pay around $100 more, but I get the microSD Card slot and sliding keyboard.
WiFi is important, and I should point out, I am on the TELUS Network.
HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....
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HTC touch Pro 2
There are many same subject threads on XDA with further information....
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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA
kepp this phone until tocu pro 2 comes out
One more for TP2
Is not the "Perfecrt" device but is one of the best candidates available
THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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THIS IS NOT THE TOUCH PRO 2! This is the Touch Pro. Version 1. Telus Mobility DOES NOT HAVE TP2 yet and won't till probably December or January ...
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On thatcase just erase the 2, I´ll go for TP!
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I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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You are right mate
kareem9nba said:
I think they're all recommending that you wait for the TP2, they understand that you're talking about the TP1. I well third and fourth that notion. If you can wait for the TP2, it'll be well worth it. You'll probably have to pay quite a bit of money without a contract.
However, to answer your question, i'd definitely go with the TP over the Diamond.
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I can't wait 14-18 months for the TP2 (which is about how long Telus will take to get it *L* as they have ONLY had the Treo Pro for about a month!) ... I think I'll go on Wednesday and get the Touch Pro.
Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month
Because Telus is CDMA but soon (2010) to be UMTS/HSPA
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hmmm TP2 ain't on Telus ... not yet ... not till the end of '09 / early '10 when they turn on their UMTS/HSPA
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Where on Earth do you live???? Sahara??? Middle of the Atlantic ocean?
Ok some usefull info for you:
Diamond - has serious heat issues and its very well know to fry its own screen. HTC are constantly fighting people and refusing to repair faulty units. I owned one and then returned it as it could also not play music without jumping/skipping. Both these issues can be easily found by going to the Diamond section of these forums.
TouchPro - (not the TP2 as everyone else seems to have got confused over) Never owned one so comments are limited to what can be read on this forum but, I miss having a keyboard and am now ordering an Asus on Monday that has a keyboard. Typing an email on the Diamond was a pain in the a*&e and its only marginaly easier on the bigger screen of my Omnia.
Palm thingy - never owned one, never used one. Can't comment.
If I HAD to chose between these then in all honesty, i'd probably keep the Palm! Why? HTC build quality sucks donkey balls. Its a well known and easily googled reputation. Its a shame really as they spec out the phones very well and seem to have every intention of making excellent devices, just somewhere the penny pinchers seem to take control and quality drops.
Best of luck with whatever you chose today
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Diamond overheat issue - dont think anymore needs to be said on this
Music link - with $125 reward for fix
Music link - check out how many pages!
And just for good measure, another music link
Very quick google brings up over 32000 hits on hardware quality
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Then why don't U buy it unlocked from another country next month
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Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?
OK so ... I was downtown yesterday, getting my Security Guard License and walked through Toronto Eaton Centre ... and I picked up the Touch Pro.
So far, I'm happy. I'm still testing things out and seeing what is good etc but ALL my games work, all my programs work AS THEY ARE SUPPOSED to, and I'm happy ...
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Maybe the guy doesn't have/want to spend hundreds of £/€/$ on a phone?
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Especially a phone that only does 3G at 2100MHz to use in a country that uses 850/1900.