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I've been trying to play a particular WMV file and i cant seem to get any player to play it smoothly (tried Coreplayer 1.1.1 and TCPMP 0.81 - various settings, GDI / DirectDraw / RAW Framebuffer etc).
The video itself is 640x480 1448 kbit/s
Would i be right in thinking that the file itself is just too large for 'any' portable player to play it?
Thanks!
Pooper said:
I've been trying to play a particular WMV file and i cant seem to get any player to play it smoothly (tried Coreplayer 1.1.1 and TCPMP 0.81 - various settings, GDI / DirectDraw / RAW Framebuffer etc).
The video itself is 640x480 1448 kbit/s
Would i be right in thinking that the file itself is just too large for 'any' portable player to play it?
Thanks!
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You're almost certainly right in your assumption. Have you tried using Media Player? WMV is about the only thing it plays really well, and the ATI Imagion is supported by Media Player too which should help!!!!
Haha awwwwwww poo!
Really cant be bothered to start re-encoding vids to play on my phone... but at least i can stop fiddling around with TCPMP now... i prefer the aesthetics of Coreplayer
What's the best video format for this PDA? What format plays it best? (Without fps drops). I've ordered the TC but it's still on it's way so I started preparing by getting the correct programs for it.
Thanks in advance.
Try DivX Converter.
jant90 said:
What's the best video format for this PDA? What format plays it best? (Without fps drops). I've ordered the TC but it's still on it's way so I started preparing by getting the correct programs for it.
Thanks in advance.
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Pocket Divx Encoder - it is free and it does the job..
Just leave the settings as is and do 320x240 resolution - I am not experiencing any issues with videos done like this.
Top Tip. Thanks Nikiiv. Will try it today.
nikiiv said:
Pocket Divx Encoder - it is free and it does the job..
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Great program (with free xVid), but DivX Converter is better.
Whichever converter you use isn't particularly important. The OP asked about video *formats*. Down-sizing an AVI to 320x240 (as mentioned above) certainly seems to work fine on my TC - 227% on Core Player during a high action scene. So that's certainly what I'd recommend - AVI, 320x240...
avi is not a true format though it's a container which can include various formats
divx being one of the nicer ones
think it's the same with mov from apple it also have various formats like mp4 and others
Can anyone do some speed comparison on DivX vs. Xvid?
Or perhaps 3GP plays more efficiently? Or some other format?
Has anyone done some testing with this? Taken a source file and converted it to the various formats a TC can handle, and seen which of these formats gets handled best?
I have tried a few different formats (I converted Holy Grail; Life of Brian and Meaning of Life so I can have them witn me at all times). I had set them all to convert at 320x 240.
I used Roxio10 to do the conversions.
I had initially been playing back on WM Player but found CorePlayer better ito ease of use and DivX playback.
3GP: smallest size of about 118MB; video was a little too blocky and there was some Video/Audio lag.
WMV9: large size, excellent picture quality but very choppy video and some Video/Audio lag.
WMDevices: as in WMV9 but much less choppiness and better Video/Audio lag.
DivX:
Large size (about 408-448MB per movie); excellent picture quality, no VIdeo/Audio lag.
Therefore, I deleted all other formats and now just use DivX with Coreplayer.
Videos/Movies are stored on a Sandisk 6GB Micro-SDHC card.
Hope this helps you with your choices.
T
Turnipio said:
I have tried a few different formats (I converted Holy Grail; Life of Brian and Meaning of Life so I can have them witn me at all times). I had set them all to convert at 320x 240.
I used Roxio10 to do the conversions.
I had initially been playing back on WM Player but found CorePlayer better ito ease of use and DivX playback.
3GP: smallest size of about 118MB; video was a little too blocky and there was some Video/Audio lag.
WMV9: large size, excellent picture quality but very choppy video and some Video/Audio lag.
WMDevices: as in WMV9 but much less choppiness and better Video/Audio lag.
DivX:
Large size (about 408-448MB per movie); excellent picture quality, no VIdeo/Audio lag.
Therefore, I deleted all other formats and now just use DivX with Coreplayer.
Videos/Movies are stored on a Sandisk 6GB Micro-SDHC card.
Hope this helps you with your choices.
T
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That was really useful, thanks. I'm already using CloneDVD Mobile to convert my DVDs (to DivX, 320 x 240) and it does the job really well. I'm using the generic DivX setting, 1 pass and quality set at 66 (I think I can have it lower without a visible quality loss), cropping of the black bars at the top and bottom (full letterbox zoom) and including subtitles of choice. It only takes around 30~ minutes to convert an entire DVD. File got 1,05 GB at this quality though. Also I saw that CloneDVD is using DivX4, will this be a problem? (Latest version is 6).
Now I just need a program to convert my movie files, I tried Pocket Divx Encoder quickly but it gave me errors. I'll play with it some more.
Thanks again,
Jan
I use SUPER as my video converter between any type of video files and I think it's pretty good and is also free!:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
Cheers.
= J =
profitoral said:
I use SUPER as my video converter between any type of video files and I think it's pretty good and is also free!:
http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html
Cheers.
= J =
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Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
jant90 said:
Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
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I never tried subs... I think I would go blind trying to watch them in such small screen
Cheers.
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Hmm, SUPER is doing a good job but I can't combine cropping with resizing, I wanna crop my 16:9 movies to 4:3, but the cropsettings get overwritten by the resize settings. Also I'm more looking for a one-click-crops-all solution, like CloneDVD Mobile is doing with it's letterbox zoom option. Does anybody know if there is such a program?
Playing DivX files with CorePlayer produces a nervous audio sync effect, that is impossible to get just right, even with tweaking the a/v sync.
Playing them with DivX Player mobile is the best, after you adjust the player's a/v sync to about +.25 s.
Anyone else done this?
edan said:
Playing DivX files with CorePlayer produces a nervous audio sync effect, that is impossible to get just right, even with tweaking the a/v sync.
Playing them with DivX Player mobile is the best, after you adjust the player's a/v sync to about +.25 s.
Anyone else done this?
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Adjusting it to -0.25s seemed to help me immensely with my sync issues, both in Core player and TCPMP. With Coreplayer, QTV and Medium quality a 512*288 DivX of Jericho seems watchable without any noticeable slowdowns. Will be doing some more testing, and will see if I can try DivX Mobile too..
*Edit* Wow DivX Mobile was awful. Horrible framerate AND quality, hardly any settings to choose from, and the interface was terrible too. That's not staying on my memorycard..
I just installed the updated CorePlayer, the previous one made picture taking unusable, and did the -.25 a/v sync, and it really looks good. I hardly notice any dropped frames.
I've pinned the CorePlayer shortcut to directly to the touchFlo cube. That's the best we can get right now...
jant90 said:
Good tip, the program looks really nice! Too bad the lastest version is bugged for Vista users (like me). How is this program handling subs (if you tested it)? I believe it can only encode subs via DirectShow, right?
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Don't know about you two, but I would try the damned Super program if the website wasn't so flawed (not to mention verbose) as to bring me about in circles. And yes, I did read his note about empyting my cache and Java, and blah blah blah, he needs to fix that website.
Edit: Just found the actual link after skimming everyingthing, I'll edit this post w/my impressions once I try it out.
I´m using Spb Mobile DVD.
XviD - 25fps - 320x240 - 500kbit/sec
Playing this stuff with CorePlayer 1.2.0.. Its perfect
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I just installed the updated CorePlayer, the previous one made picture taking unusable
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Which version caused problems, and which version do you have now?
Maybe this is a really dumb question,
but i have this problem with longer movies, say 50 movies. If i watch them on my phone they hang and lag terribly! i dont know what the problem is... short movies arent the problem! plz help
which player do u use?
try tcpmp.
i watch much longer movies using that and no lag.
tried tmcp but same result! could it be that my memory card is too slow?
cpt.bert said:
tried tmcp but same result! could it be that my memory card is too slow?
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maybe the video you are watching is too big to handle for the vox's cpu ? if thats the case.. then use PocketDivXEncoder to scale down the file and qulity, which you can't see on the phone.. This allways works and you won't have any lag at all .. ! Try it, its free.. Not only that but your video files will get much smaller in size!
It usually is a memory problem. You should reencode them to lower bitrates and/or resolution and use a codec that doesn't need much processing power!
EDIT: Ups you were faster!
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It usually is a memory problem. You should reencode them to lower bitrates and/or resolution and use a codec that doesn't need much processing power!
EDIT: Ups you were faster!
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Hehe well then it just got confirmed..
But my suggestion would be that you use TCMP and then encode your videoes with PocketDivXEncoder.. It encodes the movies in divx format which TCPMP supports fully..
Good TIPS Friends... I convert all movies to MP4 format and plau using my default 710 (Windows Media Player). No issue for me. I will also have a try of TCPMP player and compare it Hope this will be much light for phone memory
Q: What format is best for pocket pc (MP4 or Divx converted by PocketDivXEncoder) ?
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TCPMP Player: http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocket
PocketDivXEncoder: http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Video Recoding Tutorial - Video Settings
I worked on this pretty long and finally I do it this way:
Convert my videos with "Any Video Converter" (Freeware, google for it).
Use the following setting and the video will flow easily and the quality remains good:
Profile (defines the format): Mobile Phone MPEG-4 Movie
Codec: mpeg4
Size: 320x240 or 220x176, in this case size doesn´t really matter and does not effect the filesize that much.
Videobitrate: 96 kb/s is enough and gives u a good videoquality, the audioquality is more important, especially when u listen on the build in speakers.
video framerate: 15 fps (frames per second) are enough for fluid playback.
Audio Bitrate at least 128kbs, lower bitrate will sound like a tin.
Samplerate: 48000, sothat the audio is synch to the video.
So finally u will get a 90min. movie with about 130-150MB. That sounds little, but believe me, the quality is as good as a 300MB movie. If the quality is bad, the original movie itself has alot of pixelfractures in it.
U can watch the movie in win-mediaplayer without any codec-problems.
I got about 30 full length movies on my 4GB storagecard on VOX.
Here are my tips:
U can batch-encode them, just load the movies in the prog an check all boxes, do the settings once and let the prog recode all movies.
U can merge 2 files into 1. if u got the movie in 2 parts for example. just check the 2 files and rightclick merge down.
Check the aspectratio of your movies. in most cases it´s no problem with 320x240 size, but if u haven´t got a 16:9 movie, for example a 4:3 or widescreen without letterboxes, the movie will not be shown correctly, concerning the ratio. in this case set the size to "original", and probably change the settings in win mediaplayer not to fit the video automatically on screen.
What increases or decreases filesize the most are the video and audio bitrates.
Tried it a million times, the settings here are the best. otherwise u will get a huge filesize with almost no better video quality. But don´t get lower than the settings I mentioned above.
so thats my way, works best!!
PS: It´s actually not a matter of what player u use, it´s just that videoplayback in general uses the cpu heavily. But even if u got a better phone with better cpu u can use this settings, as I mentioned, u cannot see alot of diffrence to an 300MB movie, but u will be able to store the doubled amount of movies on your sd-card.
Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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How about uploading one of the shorter videos for the rest to test and see who can play it most smoothly?
amv7 said:
Hello guys!
I've purchased recently a brand new x7510, mainly for navigation (love the display) and mobile office. I've installed the latest coreplayer 1.2.5 and loaded some vids that I used to show on my old good iPAQ 4700.
And.. surprise
the screen is green and there is no sound. I've played with the settings (changed video output from ati imageon to gdi) and now videos are running but way too slow. The builtin benchamark of coreplayer gives me different scores from 50 to 70%
What's wrong?
What settings are you using? Or maybe there's a better player around?
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I am using DirectDraw. It works well. No problems here.
eaglesteve said:
How about uploading one of the shorter videos for the rest to test and see who can play it most smoothly?
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Here's an example:
(new 007 trailer)
http://rs26l33.rapidshare.com/files/134288468/Agent007.2008.epidem.ru.rar
I also have many 700 mbs DVD rips which are way too slow on the x7510. It seems to me that we have a great piece of hardware, but we don't have the appropriate software
Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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I have some flv files downloaded from youtube, but mainly videos of concerts recorded on my home computer from sat tv in wmv
One of those is about 30 minutes of Jewel concert:
Audio codec DMO WMA 44100hz 2 chanels/96kbit/s
Video codec DMO WMV (WMV9) 384 x 288, 1,15 Mb/s.
I think I've rocoded it for my mobile, but do not remember.
I just converted Superman Returns using Pocket DVD at the following settings:
IMAGE
Width: 464 pixels
Height: 288 pixels
AUDIO
Duration: 2:34:05
Bit Rate: 40 kbps
Audio Format: MPEG Layer-3
VIDEO
Frame Rate: 24 frames/second
Data Rate: 605 kbps
Video Sample Size: 24 bit
Video Compression: XVID
The only settings I changed from Core Player are:
1. Menu>Tools>Preferences>Video>Video Output>Direct Draw
2. Menu>Tools>Preferences>ATI IMAGEON>check Keep ATI Driver Active
3. Menu>Tools>Preferences>Buffering>Normal Buffer Size 700000
I also tried watching some You Tube Videos, randomly. No problems at all, except some anime looked crappy probably because they were not meant to be seen at such a big screen compared to other PPC.
I don't have any problems playing my converted DVDs. NO SKIPS, NO LAGS, NO DELAYED VOICE OR SOUND which I often see others complaining about. From my point of view, it is a matter of what converter and settings you used and what settings you have Core Player on.
So am I happy? HELL YEAH!!!!! It's better than watching using my Universal.
I don't know about the missing drivers that I often read others are asking. If Core Player can play my converted DVDs as good as my Universal, I don't see any problem with that. As I said, check your settings.
Nope still lags audio lag for me tried your settings...What version of coreplayer are you using? Did you use headphones when you played the video?
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Here's an example:
(new 007 trailer)
http://rs26l33.rapidshare.com/files/134288468/Agent007.2008.epidem.ru.rar
I also have many 700 mbs DVD rips which are way too slow on the x7510. It seems to me that we have a great piece of hardware, but we don't have the appropriate software
Tadeusz, what kind of video are you playing (resolution, codec, etc)?
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I just tried that video, when using core player 1.2.5 it almost runs fine, just that I don't have the ac3 audio codec. I also noticed a little tearing during scene change (fullscreen only).
My core player settings are:
Video output: DirectDraw
Video quality:High
Smooth Zoom: on
Dither: selected
Acceleration:not selected
DirectDraw settings:
overlay with colorkey:unselected
use blitting instead of overlay:selected
use device stretching for blitting: unselected (however I find that when I select this option with the one above I notice the tearing seems to go away but the video quality seems to go down a little)
I also increased buffersize:
normal buffer size:3392
preload at:70%
preload audio:64
Microdrive mode: selected
microdrive buffer size:56000
microdrive starts:1472
and thats what I have for coreplayer. Hopes this helps.
I'm going to try this vid in TCPMP and see how it handles it (I tend to get better video performance with TCPMP)
Another note, I have a x7501, however they're basically the same hardware.
I am using 1.2.5 version of Core Player.
I'm also using Coreplayer 1.25. Unfortunately I do not have the AC-3 codec. In any case, with rawframe buffer and set to highest video quality output, the picture is sensationally clear and fluid. I get 96.65% speed. Absolutely stunning and beautiful playback.
What audio plugin do you guys use for this video?
no problem playing videos properly coded for 640x480 sizes at max resolution, sound, etc
using TCPMP or CorePlayer, they both plays great!
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no problem playing videos properly coded for 640x480 sizes at max resolution, sound, etc
using TCPMP or CorePlayer, they both plays great!
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But on which device, x7510? You mean you were able to install TCPMP on X7510?
Then which version? And could you provide your installer?
lennie answered that already
see your other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=378040
best video
I have a x7501 no matter how I set it the video display is not smooth. I lovegbe big screen but when I made a video comparison with iPhone 3g, x7501 is worlds apart. iPhone 3g is so sharp and bright. I think it's a OS issue
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lennie answered that already
see your other topic
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=378040
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Yes, and I commented that also. This version is no solution for me. It is not only to install the app, but to be able to play my videos as well.
This version gives me good audio and scrambled video, so no joy.
I have already CorePlayer and am happy with it, but just was curious.
hi
any news ?.....ways to improve?
I was looking for the best performance for CorePlayer on my 7510 and this configuration is best for me:
video:
selected driver - ATI Imageon (acceleration turned "off"!). Don't choose "DirectDraw", "Raw FrameBuffer" or "GDI" on HTC 7510 - they are slowest than Imageon without acceleration!
dithering - "on". halftones - "on". quality - "best"
Buffer: video output buffer set to: 4200 kb
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
For best performance, it's best that you convert it. The more you start doing it and mess with the settings, the better you'll become and find which settings yield the best results.
I originally tried Quicktime Pro for this, but the people at Apple have decided that the iPhone screen is the biggest resolution they want to support on export, and I don't want the player scaling up, so I had to look elsewhere.
I'm playing with a program called Allok MPEG4 converter (http://www.alloksoft.com/mp4_converter.htm), which seems to do a nice job if a bit slowly. Of course, to do a nice job requires LOTS of processing power. I have been using the defaults except for making the output H264 and 640x480. Once the files are converted, I just copy them to the Fuze's SD card and play them from there.
I use a program called VideoReDo (www.videoredo.com) to suck in the DVD files and make a single large MPG file from them (the free DVDShrink will also work for this, if you can still find it somewhere), then load that single file into Allok and let it run. A decent DVD will take pretty much overnight to process. The results have been very good so far.
Start with a small (5 minutes or so) piece to practice with and try various settings, then when you're happy, let the full movie conversion run overnight.
Also, be aware that most commercial DVD's will have DRM and you will have to deal with that before you can do anything with the files.
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How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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If you are converting from an .avi file then you can try PocketDivXEncoder (freeware). It has presets for Diamond which you should start with. You should decide whether you want VGA or QVGA. VGA should look a little sharper but will be ~30% increase in file size and on a 2.8" screen the difference may not be much. Test for your self
I would modify some of the settings though. Leave video as is. Change the audio (small arrow on the left) to 32Khz 80 kbps stereo. Go to advanced and tick 2-Pass and Xvid.
What is your source file for the movie? If its on DVD then you definately want to convert it. Once all of my media is ripped or converted to the container / format I want I leave it at computer base resolution and just play it on the phone. Core player has done pretty well at handleing what I put at it so far.
Now that PocketDivx Encoder is a good program and does a pretty good job and shrinking files down.
Any recommendations on codecs, resolution and bitrate? I would especially be interested if anyone knew which settings preserved battery life the best while watching video.
Menneisyys has a good thread on video playback.
I use Core Player and I really don't covert any of the TV shows that I watch.
Windows Movie Maker is a great tool too. Its free (if you have XP SP2 installed) and it uses WMV format that Windows Media Player Mobile will play without any addons.
If you watch alot of movies on your Touch Pro I would suggest investing in Core Player, it plays most of the commonly used codex and its pretty quick too.
Bit rates and resolutions: I have found that if its a TV show that is about 40 to an hour, I dont have to do anything with it. For example an episode of House is about 42 minutes long, its 624x352 and running at 23.97 frames. With Core Player the episode looks flawless, eventhough the statistics on Core Player say its dropping frames, I can't tell.
I would think that a full length movie would perform a little worse, or a TV show with alot of action.
Also fatheadpi has this thread posted about encoding video for the Raphael phones.
Thanks for all the reply's. I'll try them out.
Watch Movies on Fuze Problems
So I got an HTC FUZE not too long ago and have been trying desperately to get it to play movies.
Windows Mobile Player does not want to play the wmv files I give it...
and no matter what file I use with CorePlayer the audio is terrible
mpegs, mp4, avi, h.264...
All of these videos will play fine on my computer but as soon as I get it to my phone, the audio goes to crap.
To make it all more difficult, I only have a Mac to sync this device with, so Windows based programs are useless to me...
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks all,
'Jammin
I too have been trying and so far no Success
Operating my Fuze in cooperation with a Mac Laptop is difficult enough. The programs most suggest to convert videos exist mainly for PC.
I have used many methods of conversion and found no luck with producing watchable quality on my FUZE
CorePlayer gives me bad audio playback when the video played perfectly on my computer
and Windows Media Player will not play my bigger wmv files for some reason.
Let me know if you found a combo of programs and settings that really works
'Jammin
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
I use this and it works great. Converting the video is a pain in the butt.
+1 Take time to convert but yield a much better result in viewing your video in either Album or WMP
Thanks for the info, but isn't that program for PC's?
I have many different methods of converting videos
from freeware that helps me with wmv's (as I am on a Mac and that is somewhat hard to do)
To Final Cut Pro's Compressor and even Adobe's version
Windows Media Player on my Fuze seems not to like any files over 100mb
and even though the video will look awesome on my computer after conversion, the players I use on my phone completely destroy the audio...
I've searched up and down threads like these and am at a complete loss...
qwik question
which is better to convert movies to my fuze spb video or avs video?
sorry people
um what size micro sd card on average would I need to store the videos?
get at minimum a 4GB microSDHC... under $8 if you're lucky
or a 8GB for $16... no reason to jump for that now that memory isn't that expensive
Use coreplayer bro
I bought it, and its amazing $29.95... Don't convert anything that I get. It only has trouble with on6 flv files, and devs say it'll never support codec. Shame, because flash 9 and 10 protected movies are almost all encoded with this...
A small ffmpeg utility can run one through flv to avi, keeping aspect and original source resoultion, and process a 1.5 hour flv file in about 3 minutes and give you a great quality avi output for your phone
With TCPMP I get lag when watching full movies, but Coreplayer is fine
Set video to the qtv display, high quality.
If you've got bad audio, perhaps you need to lower the pre-am if muffled, or increase if quiet
Also, you may have equaliser enabled, and not know it.
Check the options section go through pages
There definatley should not be a problem playing media with this program
Only problem now is.... I bought this... ya sweet - but now can't afford to get my raph unlocked until next month
So still without a mobile
xhypnotik said:
How will you get a full movie (Wall-E) to work on the AT&T Fuze? Do you have to convert to a different format or size? Please help.
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News Flash
Disney released Wall-E on DVD and Blue Ray discs. I have yet to see a cell phone with a built in DVD or Blue Ray player.
The motion picture experts group (standards body)...MPEG for short, many years ago, decided to evolve the distribution techology (for consumers), from MPEG-2 to MPEG-4. MPEG-4 is a broad spec and covers everything from small hand held devices to HD quality video (H.264, VC-1 etc).
Your Touch Pro has built in hardware acceleration to handle MP4 up to a reasonable limit. Your best built in video players, as delivered by the OEM, are HTC Album and Windows Media Player. Both apps support hardware accleration for MP4 video.
I continue to read about (and have purchased) Coreplayer. In the mobile space, Coreplayer is a modest improvement over the free open source TCPMP player. CorePlayer, caused a brief stir when they half-hacked into the (modest) built in hardware acceleration on the HTC Kaiser.
On a Touch Pro, Coreplayer does support non industry standard video formats, but only in software mode (slowly rendered down sized formats). Coreplayer fails dismally, when compared to Album or WMP for MP4 playback.
So...yes, convert your content to a fully supported format. Or...leech your content in supported formats. Search this forrum and you'll find guidance, and free conversion tools.