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why isnt there a forum dedicated to the xda atom yet when its already been released?

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The only two things not wrong about the name of this site are the dash and the dot. This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a secretive firm called HTC in Taiwan.
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Perhapse because it is not actually a HTC device?

I thought it was xda developers not htc developers... :wink:

I don't think that many people have the device to justify having a forum perhaps.
It's only officially released in a limited number of countries around the world.
I had the pleasure of playing around with my mates Atom- two things that put me right off were 1) the screen contrast- absolutely terrible and 2) considering it has 128MB memory, it is relatively slow and sluggish. Would definitely like to these things fix in the next ROM upgrade.

I just got my Atom and I can honestly say it isn't bad.
The Screen contrast is completely adjustable and it seems better than my XDA II.
Also it is slow however, it gets a lot faster when you remove all the crap out of startup.
Only been using it for a short period but I'm currently happy with it.

cyeoh said:
I just got my Atom and I can honestly say it isn't bad.
The Screen contrast is completely adjustable and it seems better than my XDA II.
Also it is slow however, it gets a lot faster when you remove all the crap out of startup.
Only been using it for a short period but I'm currently happy with it.
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How do you adjust the contrast? I only played around with it for about 20 mins. Like I said it belongs to a mate.

i actually considered that its a quanta device and not htc but as the other poster said, i think the XDA part of the Atom has more weight than its company of origin.
i dont think its because its only been released in a few countries either.a forum dedicated to the universal was up even before it was released if i remember correctly.
so, again i ask the question: why isnt there a dedicated forum to the XDA atom?[/quote]

i dont think its because its only been released in a few countries either.a forum dedicated to the universal was up even before it was released if i remember correctly.
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But there are going to far less of these devices than HTC products since O2 Asia is the only carrier of it. The Universal was/is available in many variants by many carriers hence more devices being sold.
All the better if they do have a forum.

sh500 said:
i dont think its because its only been released in a few countries either.a forum dedicated to the universal was up even before it was released if i remember correctly.
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But there are going to far less of these devices than HTC products since O2 Asia is the only carrier of it. The Universal was/is available in many variants by many carriers hence more devices being sold.
All the better if they do have a forum.
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but remember, china is the most populous country in the world!!!

My 2 cents,
Simple fact is this forum is for people with these devices to communciate.
People with XDA Atoms will continue using the forum to communicate regardless of whether there is separate forum for it
A separate forum will make it easier to post in the correct location and stop clogging up the General Discussion, so regardless of who makes it and where it is available, it really doens't make sense not to have a separate forum for it.
Cam

I had the Atom for about a week now. The thing looks stunning but performs quite poor. The memory is is a big corncern for me as it's just too low, I've only got 6 Megs left in the storage memory and I haven't loaded half the programs from my Jam yet.
I'm a bit lost and don't know what to do with my Atom because I've also got the K-Jam on upgrade for £30 and it perform much better but just very bulky and not as good looking. I brought the Atom from Expansys and have about 21 days return policy on it.
I really want to keep it but it's such a buggy thing for £552!!

I would suggest not to go in for the k-jam instead of the atom as its WM5 which is the problem (slow) I had the k-jam for 10 days, it was so damn slow I had to get rid of it...I mean if I use the device without installing any other software (WM5 compatible) its fine but as soon as I put 1 or 2 softs its lagged terribly, so stick with the atom & wait for a ROM update...
Also try removing the start up program like the user mentioned above...

There are also registry Hacks to make WM5 faster.

Atom & Dopod 818 Pro (Prophet) are hot machines in Hong Kong market and users are actively arguing about their pros and cons.
However, seems like a new ROM for Atom has been release but only available through service center, even not seen in seeo2.com (official O2 Asian support page). The ROM version is 20051223B2WWE. The general response is the ROM make the machine much much faster and the radio (not FM radio) signal is improved as well. I don't have the machine so cannot verify.
For 818 Pro, we Hong Kong people hearing more and more negative feedback... seems like the bad things raise slowly to the surface, like bubbles in thick oil. On the other hand, a side track news: Dopod is not going to release ROM upgrade as fast as before because so many people do ROM hack. It's really bad news and make me think twice before going for 818 Pro. :x
Not considering the bad reputation and performance during Atom's initial launch, seems like Atom with new ROM patch defeat 818 Pro a little bit... :?:
For me, I have stopped and just wait, to see which device will have a dedicated forum here... if there is no resource and feedback from you guys and play with the device together, no matter how well the device, it's just a consumer gimmick and not compariable to even magician

I have the Atom for the past 3 weeks and I guess I am not overly satisfied with the product,
even though this is my first PPC , I am a regular reader of all forums and have been following all product launches ,
one fo the main reasons for me to go in for the Atom was WM 2005
but it seems the product as such has some HW issues especially in the sound front ,and Data Transfer rate ,
The speakes are just too bad for what is supposed to be a media center PPC and the USB Active Sync Data Transfer rate is at best OK,
I do not know how a ROM upgrade will improve poor speaker quality and the Data Transfer speed, I guess I will have to just grin and bear it
I will be doing the ROM upgrade next week , will give my updates once I observe the perfomance of the Atom after the upgrade

A few more Atom gripes
Apart from the poor response time, I also find the standard alarm function does not work properly. A quick test with the alarm set for 10 minutes ahead works well, but 6am the next morning does not sound at all, until you later go into the alarm section to find out why, and then it goes off. Any ideas anyone?
Also, my Atom turns itself on accasionally for no reason. No incoming call or SMS, no alarm set, no USB or bluetooth connection, etc. It just turns on and sits there. Any ideas anyone?
Also - another poster advised removing items from start-up. How do you do this? Does it require a registry edit?
thanks,
depressed_atom_user

No registry edit to take items out of startup, done it on both 2003Se and WM5.
Programs - File Explorer - Device - Windows - Startup

What is the best new Mobile Device?

OK thats an ambiguous title I know, sorry, but I needed to start somewhere. I have not been around Mobile Devices for some time, I mess around with Blackberries in work but have not had an HTC device at home for a couple of years.
I had the original XDA and XDA2, the Jasjar (universal) and had the original Orange SPV, which I gave to my son only for him to leave on a wall in a service station 3 days later All were great fun learning apps, unlocking, themes, s/w etc. But I have not had a high spec phone for some time, and to be honest looking at the VAST number of devices it's all a bit overwelming.
So, I am looking for a device that has a qwerty keyboard, touchscreen, OS is not important so long as I can get misc apps working like TomTom, irc, spreadsheet, ftp, and some decent e-mail/calendar s/w. Also a decent music/video player (used to love a DivX app on the universal).
I am UK based, will buy on contract, don't mind waiting a couple of months if there are new devices on the horizon. I don't mind NEW technology, as in, with a few Bugs, so long as the basic stuff works.
GPS is a nice to have but not essential, I would be using it as a phone, so nothing too big, the universal was as big as I would go for something you carry around with you most of the time.
Any thoughts or ideas?
Cheers, Shire

shire29 said:
OK thats an ambiguous title I know, sorry, but I needed to start somewhere. I have not been around Mobile Devices for some time, I mess around with Blackberries in work but have not had an HTC device at home for a couple of years.
I had the original XDA and XDA2, the Jasjar (universal) and had the original Orange SPV, which I gave to my son only for him to leave on a wall in a service station 3 days later All were great fun learning apps, unlocking, themes, s/w etc. But I have not had a high spec phone for some time, and to be honest looking at the VAST number of devices it's all a bit overwelming.
So, I am looking for a device that has a qwerty keyboard, touchscreen, OS is not important so long as I can get misc apps working like TomTom, irc, spreadsheet, ftp, and some decent e-mail/calendar s/w. Also a decent music/video player (used to love a DivX app on the universal).
I am UK based, will buy on contract, don't mind waiting a couple of months if there are new devices on the horizon. I don't mind NEW technology, as in, with a few Bugs, so long as the basic stuff works.
GPS is a nice to have but not essential, I would be using it as a phone, so nothing too big, the universal was as big as I would go for something you carry around with you most of the time.
Any thoughts or ideas?
Cheers, Shire
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If it has to be HTC I would suggest Touch Pro, it has the best keyboard after Universal, and has very nice specs! However, you can forget watching decent DivX or xvid movies without converting them, in fact there is almost no new HTC device that can play back a movie without heavy converting becouse of missing drivers! Sucks I know, but the best HTC device I had was in fact the universal! Also Touch pro as well as other new HTC devices are having problems with the so called GPS lag, search this forum to find out more about it!
However, you should check out the new Sony X1 if keyboard is important to you! I have not tested it, but it should be able to play back movies correctly, and maybe no gps lag?
If however a hardware keyboard is not that important to you, then the Samsung Omnia will be a winner! It is very slick, much like the Iphone, and it has all the drivers, so no problems with anything at all!

Enter here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446362
And let´s see what all members think about the best device!
Hope everybody can vote!

Thanks Bro...the best one will be the Rafael, I use to have the original Touch, but I was missing the keyboard and Wi-Fi, and all the other wonders that the Pro has, the Sprint version is decent, could be a little bether, but it's nice to work with!!!

Thoughts on the HTC Fuze?

Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.

Fuze is a pretty good cell phone.It's vga lcd is impressing!!!

I use mine daily for work & leisure with a TAEL ROM, works fine for me I like it.
If you can live without a keyboard it may be worth looking at the Diamond 2.
These devices are good but you do need to more technically capable to get the most from them.
Will be sticking to mine for a while as minimal button & no d-pad devices are ****e in the real world, I have yet to see anyone who can type as fast & error free on a touch keyboard.

I've had my fuze since it came out and i love it. I usually run the latest energy rom on mine though and I didn't like the phone near as much without it. So my advice is if you have a little computer know-how and are willing to read the forums the hardware is just fine and everything is here to make the fuze exactly what you want it to be, well aside from the 1Ghz speed and wvga res of the new gen of phones I'd say go for it
Oh and I second the look at the diamond 2 if you don't need hardware keys cause it has a better blue tooth stack, but no keyboard means I won't buy personally

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pwntatochips said:
Hi, new to HTC phones, been an apple fanboy, but now I'm trying out different phones. I've been eyeing this one, HTC Fuze of late, cause mainly, I don't have a data plan and don't plan on too either. I want to know what owners think about this phone, and I can decide from there.
I mean many youtube comments of reviews over this phone been on both sides, and I mean the phone has been discontinued and people say from all the bugs and problems.
Sway me people on the XDA forums! Are you happy with the choice of this phone and recommend it? Or pull me out of its death trap.
Please comment cause it would really help. Thank you.
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for around 100 bucks its a really solid phone assuming you only need english load up the latest http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536751 energy rom(id suggust cookie 23xxx builds) and all those problems disappear (except camera, still as in reviews)
once you put the new roms on it you would think it was released in late 2009

So does any one know what are the best roms and changes?

it all depends on which phone did you previously used...if you have used low level phone..then definately you will like this......i love this phone.....especially when using energy roms.....as previously i had htc opal.....

I had the HTC Fuze and the problem with these phone with a keyboard is that it will eventually break over time. The phone was also thick and heavy. Oh yeah, the D-pad was practically unusable. I dont know if the Touch Pro shares the same problem as the Fuze. Anyways the main thing that got me to sell the phone was the keyboard breaking.

the board will break????

WM or Droid?WM fan needs help choosing new all around ppc

Hi,
I need help choosing a new PPC.
With Android available and WM seemingly not keeping up I am not sure I should stay devoted to WM.
I have been a WM user for years (Blackjack, Kaiser) and here's what I enjoy about the platform.
>Modification (Love to tweak reg etc)
>Exchange Sync (Calendar, notes, and contacts not email at this time)
>Apps (Bittorrent, good browser? I don't really care about flash but its fun to have )
>Office Mobile Pro (Is there a Open Office for Android or other *.doc *.xcl editors?)
Is Android an option for a universal user (business minded with pleasure added)
My criteria
I would prefer a hardware keyboard as I have never used anything else and think the switch to a touch screen keyboard would be painful as I enjoy the tactile feel of a button and a qwerty keyboard. Is the switch hard, does the onscreen keyboard minimize what you can see on the screen or other quirks or if I was at home would a blue-tooth keyboard be an option etc..?
Good Stereo BT (still stack issues? with both?)
Wifi
Wifi hot spot
4g (I live in Bethlehem/Allentown Pa 40 minutes north of philly and 50 minutes south of NYC, its not available yet but this area is stuck in the middle)
Carrier isn't an issue, I will go with any.
Cost is not an issue.
HTC fan but it doesn't really matter.
Gyro whats? d.n.a. or should it?
Gps? d.n.a
thanks for reading and hope you can help

Well you are in the middle of Verizon country. The X is looking pretty nifty as well as the Incredible. I am so far from my 2yr. (may 2011 ) But you can play with them for 30 days and decide.
good day.

Thank you for your reply.
I am a little confused on the being in Verizon country comment though since I just moved here so...
Special circumstances...
I work a 6 day week @ 65 hrs plus driving time + 6hrs (thats a bicycle actually) so my time is very limited and getting to a store is harder than it should and why I was asking for help and purchase something online instead making it very hard to return or physically try before.
I have a mini-laptop so maybe exchange sync isnt that important but not having a hardware keyboard does make a difference as well as moving to android, scary.

kltsin said:
Thank you for your reply.
I am a little confused on the being in Verizon country comment though since I just moved here so...
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With all the traveling I have ever done on the east coast service was always better than my home town. Just always seemed to be VZW heavy in that part of the country.
I myself am going to wait to see how the WP7 pans out being a winmo guy myself.
First I would edit the title of your post to recommend a device or something to that nature.
Next check the sites of carriers for devices offered. I would find it real hard to get a device without having it in my hand. And speaking from experience any carrier's corporate locations are much better to deal with than an "authorized retailer".
Also THIS SITE has a lot of great videos and current device reviews.
good luck in the hunt.
good day.

Again Thank you, I don't know what happened to my title....
I bought my at&t tilt from just reading reviews and satisfied 100% percent with what I expected except its weight.
I am going to have great service from any company because where I live as I stated prior. Though my blackjacks radio was strong the phone wasn't very loud voice wise and both wm devices (the tilt) had a terrible time with my different stereo bluetooth headsets when it came to calls but music never had an issue.
I paid for allot of software for wm as well and hate to see them go to waste, (Resco explorer, yes I bought Opera mobile too pre beta/pre knowing about cooked roms...), but if droid can do the same with no need then it doesnt matter.
Keyboard and office Mobile and bluetooth are still an issue I have to consider with help hopefully.

Well I have been using a wm device since the 8125 and hve had most of the HTC wm phones available up to and including the tilt 2. Along the way I did see lots of growth and customization on this OS. we also saw improvements and new features along the way, however we also saw a lot of issues. With each new phone and or update to the OS I prayed that maybe they got this one right. I was almost always disappointed, sometimes things just would not work. Sure wm devices had the best feAtures but what good are they if they aren't reliable?
I spend months customizing my phones and you can do this on android, just not to the extent thAT you could with wm, But everything works.
I have had slide out keyboards for years, and tilting screens to boot, for the last 2 years or so, so I am still getting used to this on screen kb, but its easier than I thought it would be.
Also getting all of your outlook info synced with android is proving to not be straight forward. Not to mention all the calendar options seems a little confusing and lacking, but I just got my evo 2 weeks ago.
The gps and Google maps and navigation that were built into my phone seems much faster and accurate then my experience with past phones, I get a fix in less than one second everytime.
I wasn't going to let myself get talked into wm7, there's lots of reasons why it might be the worse wm to date, but all my info on wm7 is second hand. I loved my tilt 2, I never stopped customizing it and I still want to use it, but I am going to make my self forget about it and give this evo a shot, love the screen BTW.
On a side note, android doesn't seem to support Bluetooth keyboards wich is a huge setback for me. I'm on the road a lot too and I put a lot of effort into making my mobile devices replace my laptops.
Way off point, but I bet us power users users get more work done on these mobile devices than the averAge desktop user, and its kinda nice.
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I see the droid 2 has a hardware qwerty keyboard...?
I am to tired to think after nearly 70 hr work weeks and trying to grasp each of these devices.. Reviewing allot of devices
On a side note I see the 2 year plan requirements, does that have to include the unlimited data, at&t screwed us on that one (Iphone users got theirs for $29 per month and all other smartphones were $10 bucks more) now they changed their data plans...

What's the best tablet that will out perform for a few years like the hd2 did

Hi all I asked this question months ago but what is currently the best tablet on the market for hardware and future modification of roms ect I want something that will have a high enough spec to hold its own with all the future custom roms like the hd2 thanks
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It's hard to answer this question - none of us can predict the future.
For me it will be Asus Transformer.

what about the xoom or does the transformer have more of a xda following at the moment
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I'm thinking eventually the Xoom will be that tablet.
I would like to see the NC be that tablet but that's bias because I own one

If I had to pick today, from the assortment that is available right now, I would have to say that the Xoom is thus far the best tablet available.
I am a big HTC fan, so I would rather wait for their offerings to see what the future holds, however.
The fact that every single tablet on the market right now has (to me) major issues is an indicator that things are simply too fresh to step out on a limb and say that any given one is "teh future!".
Missing USB hosts, no sd-card support, proprietary cables and connections, closed-source honeycomb, flash integration issues and sporadic pricing compared to specs are all indicators that most tablets are being rushed to market in an attempt to cash in while the consumers are still interested.
I am personally leaning towards a sub-$200 tablet myself, since I can't find one that meets my expectations. At least I can afford to lose that money if a much better tablet hits the market in the next 6 months.
Hope this helps!

g tablet
g tablet - cheap hackability.

NC would be great... if it had HSPA+ (or at least HSDPA).