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Hi all
I'm toying with the idea of getting a GPS based navigation system to use with my QTEK 2020i.
I think that the Navigator kits are quite pricey for someone who isn't sure they;lll get the use out of them though.
What's my cheapest option if I wanted to try this stuff out?
I don't mind buying a generic GPS receiver as I'm sure I can use it for something else (!?????) other than satnav.
Is it as simple as buying one of those £29 GPS reciever jobbys off ebay and then downloading a trial version of tomtom???
Cheers all
Wayne
there is no version for trialing tomtom. your best bet would be to to buy a kit from 1 of the online shops to be honest and i wouldn't recomend ebay as they are not legal copy's and hence don't work properly
andy-c1 said:
there is no version for trialing tomtom. your best bet would be to to buy a kit from 1 of the online shops to be honest and i wouldn't recomend ebay as they are not legal copy's and hence don't work properly
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eh?
So I can't download like a 30-day trial!...How do they expect people to know if the product is anygood?
I know it probably is but that for me isn't the point...I want to see if I'll actually use it and how I'll use it, that's how I'll know if it's worth me buying it.
Cheers
Wayne
Well, I bought a Qstarz BT-Q880 32-channel GPS receiver, which works excellently with the XDA 2i and TomTom 5.
However, I did download TomTom 5 via BitTorrent... Purely for evaluation purposes. Of course.
If you have €369 to lend me (with long-term repayments at a low interest rate) so I can buy the damn thing straight away, then hell I'll buy it straight away. I do think they charge an arm and a leg - and the Plus maps (the more detailed versions of the maps) cost a good €150 extra - at least.
The long and short of it is that you'll have to break the law in some way or another if you want to evaluate GPS software before you make your own purchase of the software - which I do intend to do when I have the cash (Uni students don't really have that much spare to be honest, but I do buy the software for my XDA whenever I can).
just to say though, no matter how you aquire the software, a basic GPS receiver is still gonna cost you around £45 - £50 via Ebay.
And I'm not sure what other use you would have for it other than SatNav, except maybe wifi hotspot logging.
Geocacheing!
Gajet said:
just to say though, no matter how you aquire the software, a basic GPS receiver is still gonna cost you around £45 - £50 via Ebay.
And I'm not sure what other use you would have for it other than SatNav, except maybe wifi hotspot logging.
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still, that's a lot cheaper than paying £££ on TomTom!
If I did it this way and then used a less-than-legit version to trial it, I could then upgrade to a proper version later and then sell the GPS receiver.
If I buy TomTom now and don't use/like it then I stand to loose a lot more money (especially seeing as the general impression people seem to have is that TomTom on ebay is fake or no good).
...you see my predicament
Cheers
Wayne
If you did fancy Geocaching or even just the chance of an Ordanace survey map. I recommend 'aquiring' a copy Memory Map too. I have both on my xda iis, Tomtom drives you to the local area, and memory map will plot everything after that.
Now that sounds like a plan...
Gajet said:
If you did fancy Geocaching or even just the chance of an Ordanace survey map. I recommend 'aquiring' a copy Memory Map too. I have both on my xda iis, Tomtom drives you to the local area, and memory map will plot everything after that.
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Geowhating? Sorry to sound dumb but you've lost me now :S
Cheers
Wayne
dispite all it's bad press on most websites tomtom on the whole is a very good product ,i persoanlly havn't had any reall issues with tomtom apart from the problem being the sd card being to slow with the 2i , i've signed up for the traffic updates which i find to be about 90% correct
i also think most of the problems arise because people are using illegal versions
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dispite all it's bad press on most websites tomtom on the whole is a very good product ,i persoanlly havn't had any reall issues with tomtom apart from the problem being the sd card being to slow with the 2i , i've signed up for the traffic updates which i find to be about 90% correct
i also think most of the problems arise because people are using illegal versions
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Not sure I agree with the problems all being down to illegal copies (more so on the 2i).
This is my main concern. If I shell out for an app that crashes etc with little to no support/help from TomTom.
As it is I will probably try a dodgy copy and if it's stable I'll get a proper version. I know that a bad copy may be the cause of the crashes but with TomTom not supplying a trial copy how do they expect people to make an informed decision? You wouldn't buy a car without test driving it would you?!
Nearly all software (including that on the Pocket PC platform) provide trial versions. I've even seen some posts on here to suggest that TomTom used to do this...but not now for some reason?
Lost business I say.
Cheers
Wayne
dotn got to halford and have play with a tomtom go or one the app is the same as is the maps as anis the andy says there have been problems with the 2i this is mainly down to a hardware issue the way round it most users have found is to get a the fastest sd card you can find currently mappopolis is the olny vendor to have a 30 day trial
Aye, I must say for the record that TomTom on my 2i MOSTLY works fine, it only crashes out if you do something like try to use the Ring Number feature - it'll show the screen, but as soon as you select the Point Of Interest category you want, it has a think about it then crashes back to the desktop.
The same if you load up too many Points of Interest on a map, I've also found. I guess that's most likely down to the fairly old SD card I have, an old PNY 256Mb card - but it does the job very nicely, and just has enough space on it (6.66Mb! remaining) to store the TT files, the Netherlands map and the Great Britain Plus map. If you want to load more maps though, you'll definitely need the 1Gb card, the France plus map is something like 370mb - and the main Western Europe map is even bigger.
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Geowhating? Sorry to sound dumb but you've lost me now :S
Cheers
Wayne
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I can't say I've ever tried it, but Geocaching is a bit of a GPS treasure hunt. People leave these caches hidden in "interesting" places and provide the GPS coordinates to a website, then other people can use their GPS devices to locate the cache and leave a message in the notebook, take photos with the camera or maybe even recieve a little prize. It's for those odd people who go outside, when they could be huddled up in the warm over their PC's
If that vaguely interests you you could look at
http://www.gagb.org.uk/
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Hi all
I'm toying with the idea of getting a GPS based navigation system to use with my QTEK 2020i.
I think that the Navigator kits are quite pricey for someone who isn't sure they;lll get the use out of them though.
What's my cheapest option if I wanted to try this stuff out?
I don't mind buying a generic GPS receiver as I'm sure I can use it for something else (!?????) other than satnav.
Is it as simple as buying one of those £29 GPS reciever jobbys off ebay and then downloading a trial version of tomtom???
Cheers all
Wayne
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www.mapopolis.com
Mapopolis looks promising from the site, their bundles are quite handy if you don't want all the extra steps of buying the phone holder, buying the carkit... All of which I did, hasssssssle - I do think I would miss the nifty 3D view which TomTom displays whilst you're navigating your way through the world, but I guess that's only because I'm feeling spoilt now.
When it comes to caching, geocaching.com used to be one of the definitive sources of info on the net, but it's suffering server problems at the moment.
Other good sites:
http://www.gpss.tripoduk.com/caching/
http://www.gagb.org.uk/guidelines/guidelines.php - deserves a second mention, as it's a very useful site...
And of course, http://www.geocaching.org.uk/ ! Get caching kiddos.
mapopolis
download mapopolis demo and ill show u how to register it free...its good software and free!
christopherwoods said:
Aye, I must say for the record that TomTom on my 2i MOSTLY works fine, it only crashes out if you do something like try to use the Ring Number feature - it'll show the screen, but as soon as you select the Point Of Interest category you want, it has a think about it then crashes back to the desktop.
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have you upgraded your tomtom as mine did exactly the same till the new upgrade i havn't had to soft reset since then
I don't have to soft reset, the program just crashes back to the Today screen. I don't really need to use the Ring Number feature anyway, kinda pointless as I can just 118 500.
The issue is moot anyway, since I'm using a less-than-100%-legitimate copy... I'm sure once I have a job post-University I'll be able to afford to buy it, but until then I'm not keeping my hopes up.
Which software do you guys use? i download a few from ppcwarez but they dont work..........any suggestions to compatible software?
copilot live 7 works flawlessly
http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/htc-copilot-dach.asp?language=German
iGo 8 in my opinion is the best.
The usual procedure here is; try a few different pieces of software until you decide which has the best maps / features / interface for you. No harm using ppcwarez for this I suppose. Once you've decided, buy it. Ironically enough, you will probably still end up using the cracked version from ppcwarez as, for example, iGo8 comes on a microSD card, so it can't be used with the Diamond. Diamond 2 has a microSD slot, but I don't know if it works as I don't have my Diamond 2 yet. Anyway, I prefer having my navigation software and all my other apps on the one large memory card, rather than be swapping them out all the time. But the main thing is that you've bought a licence, and you have access to their technical support, online map and poi resources etc.
Also consider TomTom 7. Many people here seem to use it and like it, but I'm not particularly fond of it.
Unless the search engine on this site allows 3 letter word searches then a new GPS thread is going to start for the Topaz every week!
For some reason the last thread was not under the software topic either. Here it is .....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511298
I use iGo 8 by the way
Is there a problem with Google Maps or Windows Live Search?
You can't beat the price (free), and they get the job done.
I prefer Windows Live because I can speak my destination.
harolds said:
Is there a problem with Google Maps or Windows Live Search?
You can't beat the price (free), and they get the job done.
I prefer Windows Live because I can speak my destination.
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... except to people that do not have an unlimited data plan!
i also i dont belive that those also do turn-by-turn navigation...but i could be wrong.
They both have turn by turn navigation.
Why would you own such a phone without unlimited data plan?
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They both have turn by turn navigation.
Why would you own such a phone without unlimited data plan?
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i stand corrected.
because some carriers do no offer it , like mine, and the ones that do at least where i m want something stupid like £80 per month contract.
at the moment i pay £10 for 100mb.
harolds said:
They both have turn by turn navigation.
Why would you own such a phone without unlimited data plan?
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where im from we dont have unlimited data plan and even so the data plan is really expensive.......so i bought the phoen cuz it has a internal gps antenna and if have maps loaded on the phone already it will be free...........that is why i bought this phone for that and many reasons
I have try to install Igo8 on my Diamond 2. Install works fine, but when i start i see a short time the loading symbol and then back to desktop?
I use Garmin Mobile XT for European and US maps and MapKing for Asian main cities.
Both run fine from my SD card.
Personally i really like Amigo
It's basically a skinned version of Igo 8 but i really like the menu's. They are very easu to use. So currently i am very satisfied witj Amigo
I use Garmin Mobile XT and love it!
Works perfectly!
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Personally i really like Amigo
It's basically a skinned version of Igo 8 but i really like the menu's. They are very easu to use. So currently i am very satisfied witj Amigo
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I am using iGo My Way 8.3.2. My only issues are:
- can not tell it to avoid traffic lights
- I can not tell it to find a petrol station but it knows where they are and draws pretty graphics of petrol stations
Do you have these issues?
extracrunchie said:
Which software do you guys use? i download a few from .... but they dont work..........any suggestions to compatible software?
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You don't seem to bright. XDA is no warez related site! Please modify your post and do some reading about different navigation software.
we don't do warez here
people have answered your question....now go and buy the software
thank you
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Hi all,
I'm a frequent traveller, I often change countries for business and/or pleasure and am planning a very long journey by car, from Australia to Europe.
In order to let my friends and family know where I am, I was wondering if there was a app I could install on my TyTN II that would use the built-in GPS, get my position and upload it on a website (but NOT using the Internet). Such beacons exist for yachts, they send once a day the exact position to the vendor, using GPS only, and then friends can know where the boat is. I don't have a boat I have a 4WD
Any thoughts ? I've looked online and so far I could only find apps that would use the Internet... Not very practical when you're in the middle of nowhere in Mongolia, I doubt there is free WiFi in Ulaanbaatar
Thanks.
Boags.
Boags said:
Hi all,
I'm a frequent traveller, I often change countries for business and/or pleasure and am planning a very long journey by car, from Australia to Europe.
In order to let my friends and family know where I am, I was wondering if there was a app I could install on my TyTN II that would use the built-in GPS, get my position and upload it on a website (but NOT using the Internet). Such beacons exist for yachts, they send once a day the exact position to the vendor, using GPS only, and then friends can know where the boat is. I don't have a boat I have a 4WD
Any thoughts ? I've looked online and so far I could only find apps that would use the Internet... Not very practical when you're in the middle of nowhere in Mongolia, I doubt there is free WiFi in Ulaanbaatar
Thanks.
Boags.
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How would the phone connect to upload the information then..? The boat-based GPS beacons transmit their position using a satellite transmitter, but that's separate from GPS (which is a one-way system). Your phone doesn't really have that capability, or any other way to broadcast its location or any other data, without using the internet.
Ha ! I didn't think of that, I didn't know GPS was one way... damn. Makes sense tho. Thanks. Now I feel like a tool
Boags said:
Ha ! I didn't think of that, I didn't know GPS was one way... damn. Makes sense tho. Thanks. Now I feel like a tool
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It's all good man...the only way you would have been a tool is if you didn't come to xda to find out what you needed
Hello ; )
Which thieft and lost protection application is currently the best? I'd like to buy soon a license and i'm wondering which one choose...
I know:
1. WaveSecure
2. Track&Protect
3. Lookout
4. MobileDefense
In my opinion the best is Track&Protect - it has almost all WaveSecure options + photo making and secret callback. But it's also more expensive if i'm going to use it(send a command) to phone more than one a month.
I'm waiting for your opinions and proposals..
Lookout is good and free. My personal favorite is GPS TRACKER and is free too
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I would use tasker to automate tracking. It can do almost everything but you just need to spend some time with it.
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THEFT AWARE hands down, no ?'s is the best app. dam program is unbeleivable.
I use mobile defense and its awesome for keeping tabs on your phone. You can even tell if someone tries to swap the sim card if your phone has one. Of course my Hero doesnt. I know 2 people that have had there phone stolen and using MD we have tracked it down in a few hours.
I use prey, its fantastic and saved my arse once already once..
If your phone is rooted Theft Aware creates an update zip that reinstalls itself if someone factory resets your phone. In my oppinion this is a must because otherwise any 14 year old can google how to wipe your phone, and then your precious GPS location software is rendered useless.
Coedy said:
I use prey, its fantastic and saved my arse once already once..
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another vote for prey
i would vote prey but it only has sms activate and no activation from the web site.. not a big issue, I just would prefer to do it from the website also.. but it's free so who am i to complain?
I use lookout, I haven't had to use it yet but I have tested it and it seems to work fine.
this theft aware looks pretty good, will give it a go
i saw this one...if your phone is rooted it looks good http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...ion-weve-seen-to-date-really-hands-on-review/
Hi,
I would like to introduce my newest application: WatchDog Alarm System. I built it to protect my KTM 990 Adventure R motorcycle from thieves and decided to publish it to the world for free.
I'll be very glad to get your feedback and tests on as much as possible different devices. tested it only on my Galaxy Nexus and Motorola Defy+
This application will help to protect any vehicle by examining their location and position relative to the ground by checking several sensors. If something is changed an alert will be sent to the user.
I love the final result and uses it every day.
App can be downloaded from: type: com.abware.watchdog_client in Google play store
Waiting for your feedback \ suggestions.
Thanks a lot!
Adi Barda
adi.barda said:
Hi,
I would like to introduce my newest application: WatchDog Alarm System. I built it to protect my KTM 990 Adventure R motorcycle from thieves and decided to publish it to the world for free.
I'll be very glad to get your feedback and tests on as much as possible different devices. tested it only on my Galaxy Nexus and Motorola Defy+
This application will help to protect any vehicle by examining their location and position relative to the ground by checking several sensors. If something is changed an alert will be sent to the user.
I love the final result and uses it every day.
App can be downloaded from: type: com.abware.watchdog_client in Google play store
Waiting for your feedback \ suggestions.
Thanks a lot!
Adi Barda
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How does this app work? You need two phones? One to notify you and one to store in the vehicle, that's not very practical? I don't understand...how can the phone left in the vehicle detect someone breaking your window or unlocking your door? The only thing I'd think that it would help if someone drove off with your vehicle...
CHUUZE said:
How does this app work? You need two phones? One to notify you and one to store in the vehicle, that's not very practical? I don't understand...how can the phone left in the vehicle detect someone breaking your window or unlocking your door? The only thing I'd think that it would help if someone drove off with your vehicle...
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Yes you need two phones and I think it's great. Forget about the word "phone", we need a black box with GPS, accelerometer, gyroscope and GSM. I checked Arduiono, Odroid, raspberry pi etc. much more expensive and too fragile. You have hundreds of cheap phones containing all needed sensors, reliable, dust/water proof So why not use them?
It works perfect with motorcycles. you have no door/window and even the slightest move/shake of the bike will trigger the alarm workflow.
adi.barda said:
Yes you need two phones and I think it's great. Forget about the word "phone", we need a black box with GPS, accelerometer, gyroscope and GSM. I checked Arduiono, Odroid, raspberry pi etc. much more expensive and too fragile. You have hundreds of cheap phones containing all needed sensors, reliable, dust/water proof So why not use them?
It works perfect with motorcycles. you have no door/window and even the slightest move/shake of the bike will trigger the alarm workflow.
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...I still don't understand how the phone will recognize anything other than someone driving off with your car...how is it going to sense your window being broken or taking your stereo?
CHUUZE said:
...I still don't understand how the phone will recognize anything other than someone driving off with your car...how is it going to sense your window being broken or taking your stereo?
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Thanks for the feedback. Protecting from window being broken is a nice feature and an easy one to implement... next version.
adi.barda said:
Thanks for the feedback. Protecting from window being broken is a nice feature and an easy one to implement... next version.
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All you'd need is a few glass frequency profiles to compare the mic input to. Awesome idea.
As for the app: too bad it requires internet. The places that I am worried about my car typically don't have internet connections available...
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meanm50 said:
All you'd need is a few glass frequency profiles to compare the mic input to. Awesome idea.
As for the app: too bad it requires internet. The places that I am worried about my car typically don't have internet connections available...
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...and I just realized you have to have TWO phone accounts. Lots of us have old phones...but old phones with service??? C'mon.
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...and I just realized you have to have TWO phone accounts. Lots of us have old phones...but old phones with service??? C'mon.
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^this.
Guys,
The agent device (the phone in the vehicle) doesn't need internet connection. It uses Google Cloud Messaging by default but if there is no internet connection available it automatically switches to SMS communication.
Don't know about prices in U.S. Here in Israel, we have basic service which costs 2.5$ / month including free SMS and 10MB data (every extra MB costs ~1 cent) so comparing it to 2500$/year of comprehensive insurance for my motorcycle - it's really a money saver for me.
Such stupid complaints, how else can it inform you if it doesn't have a second phone, by messenger pigeon? I'm a biker too and I think this is great, there are several tracker systems out there most of which can cost a good deal of money and might require long contracts, so I'm delighted to see this. Many thanks to the developer!
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...and I just realized you have to have TWO phone accounts. Lots of us have old phones...but old phones with service??? C'mon.
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as far as I know, all vehicle alarm systems / GPS trackers which sends SMS to the users requires a valid SIM card.
......sounds like a good idea to me :thumbup:!! ....as soon as i can get a used andro-device i will check this app, protecing my good old xt500
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FlamingGoat said:
cost a good deal of money and might require long contracts
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You must be a Cricket customer...because most carriers have at least a 1 or 2 year contract...