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£5 reward for a fix to my problem!

I have recently purchased a HTC Touch / ELF (So i thought) from eBay.
Turns out it was a CLONE.
To make matters worse it is hanging on the Windows Mobile screen.
Also, a hard reset is not working. Im not even sure it can do a hard reset.
There are also no Red numbers when the phone starts.. does this phone not have a boot loader?
Can i fix this phone at all? I really would love too do so..
I will pay £5 maybe more, to anyone who can get my phone working!
Payment will be made through PAYPAL.
Thanks people!
Lee.
Topic on clones here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3240425#post3240425

I'm not sure, but even after thinking it may be a clone, you miiiight want to try
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379318 there.
Can you take any pictures of it?

Just curious, have you tried manually entering bootloader?

Sorry guys just got a reply from another seller of the same phone on ebay.
Turns out the phone does have a bootloader..kind of.. you can hard reset but flashing is not possible.
To enter boot loader you have to hold volume up, camera, and soft reset, then middle button i belive.. i presssed it anyway..
Thanks anyway guys.

leethedon1 said:
Sorry guys just got a reply from another seller of the same phone on ebay.
Turns out the phone does have a bootloader..kind of.. you can hard reset but flashing is not possible.
To enter boot loader you have to hold volume up, camera, and soft reset, then middle button i belive.. i presssed it anyway..
Thanks anyway guys.
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haha I'm kinda curious now, is it infact a clone?

Yep. Take a look at the link in the first post. There are tiny differences. Weight, screw placements, serial's, performance etc..

Orbit 2 White Screen need help.

Hi all.
I recently came into the posession of one of these awesome devices.
my only problem is that when turned on, the screen comes on but is just pure white.
the device seems to boot up ok as you can hear all the noises in the background, also the digitizer works as the backlight comes on when you touch the screen and you can hear windows mobile clicking away.
could this be the lcd thats broken? or could it be an issue with the mainboard?
anyone have any ideas? or have had the same problem?
i just dont wanna go out and buy a new screen to find out thats not the problem lolol.
(btw i have tried hard reseting multiple times and that dosent seem to be the problem)
thanks all.

Um how du know that you have HR properly if you cannot see the screen, or can you see it on the HR screen?
Also if you can can you see the bootloader, and have you tried a different rom, never know it may work

heya chris, thanks for the reply.
reason i know it has hard reset ok is i used a htc touch next to it to guage where the setup screen (screen calib etc) buttons were and tapped on the digitizer unitll it got to the main screen and reset itself after customisation (took friggin aages to do that lol)
then managed to fudge it to get media player running by using the arrow buttons etc.
sayin that what combo of buttons do youse to HR. ill give it a try if theres another way ;-)

For me its ok and windows key, the one beneath the send and end keys
Then when booted it will say "blah" and press send to restore. Press send then it will take about 15 seconds or so to restore then it reset's and boots up again.
To do the bootloader its the camera button and reset, but i dont know if thats helpful if you cant see the screen!!
Um is it still under warrenty if so go that route and if not try taking it apart and then try to see if any of the screen connectors are loose i think that someone has done this already on here with pictures if you want some help with it.

tried the hard reset again and still met with the same white screen. dang...
as for warranty, its an ex business phone i got through my work so no warranty, and i have since stripped it down 3 times to look for faults.
have tried slotting the ribbon cable in and out of its socket and had no luck.

hmm i would say maybe new motherboard or screen, which you prob already know by now.
Apart from that im out of ideas as to what to say would be a solution for the problem with it or how to fix it without replacing parts

cheers for all your help chris.
i think ill just have to take the dive and order a new screen.
god i hope its the screen lol

Fully bricked Captivate? Please, help! Tried many things..

Hi everyone,
Here's my problem :
Since some few days, my Captivate won't start up, and won't connect anymore.
The screen stays black!
I tried usually things : removing battery,sim,microsd, then pressing vol up, down and power, connecting with ODIN3.. Nothing happends.
It was bricked after a custom ROM update. I did format data, cache and .. system ! As usually, because I tought formatting system was necessary. Maybe it was the wrong thing that made it crashes..
So, I thank you a lot for bringing me any help !!

zebra363 said:
Hi everyone,
Here's my problem :
Since some few days, my Captivate won't start up, and won't connect anymore.
The screen stays black!
I tried usually things : removing battery,sim,microsd, then pressing vol up, down and power, connecting with ODIN3.. Nothing happends.
It was bricked after a custom ROM update. I did format data, cache and .. system ! As usually, because I tought formatting system was necessary. Maybe it was the wrong thing that made it crashes..
So, I thank you a lot for bringing me any help !!
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could you give pls a little detail. as to what custom rom did you flashed, is it the froyo rom or ginger rom? and elaborate further on what did you do when this happens it might give other people here some more understanding on how to help you. If your your phone won't power at all and the soft bottons won't light up and won't respond with key combos or even a jig you likely had a perma brick as in hard brick.!!......If you are still on warranty no worries just tell them that your phone suddenly dies and that you have no clue what happens to it.
You can also try this if you like read the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1020976&page=3

Thanks for your answer!
I flash many of my phones, so, unfortunately, I can't remember what kind of ROM it was! I also try many of those I can find on XDA.
Here's what happens :
Had formatted data,cache, and system. Then, flashed the ROM, and selected "reboot". Just after that, I was making coffee.. So, I came back 5 min after, and the phone was .. dead!
After many, many, many Captivate's ROM flashes (maybe 70 !?), first time it happends!
The phone is no more under warranty, so I can't do anything..
Btw, what is a "jig" ? Heard alot that word but..
And thanks for the thread, but I don't think there's a solution in it!?
I will browse it tomorrow, thanks
Thanks again for help!

JIG youtube video
^ "Btw, what is a "jig" ? Heard alot that word but.."
Here ya go....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdn5GoRjhn0
The jig is usually the last resort for some. That is if holding volume up and volume down then plugging in the usb cable into your phone ( the other end being already plugged into your computer) does not put it into download mode.

zebra363 said:
Thanks for your answer!
I flash many of my phones, so, unfortunately, I can't remember what kind of ROM it was! I also try many of those I can find on XDA.
Here's what happens :
Had formatted data,cache, and system. Then, flashed the ROM, and selected "reboot". Just after that, I was making coffee.. So, I came back 5 min after, and the phone was .. dead!
After many, many, many Captivate's ROM flashes (maybe 70 !?), first time it happends!
The phone is no more under warranty, so I can't do anything..
Btw, what is a "jig" ? Heard alot that word but..
And thanks for the thread, but I don't think there's a solution in it!?
I will browse it tomorrow, thanks
Thanks again for help!
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U can either buy a jig from someone like mobiletechvideos on YouTube or make one urself using resistors (tutorials are scattered around the forum). U plug it into ur micro USB slot and it will put ur phone onto download mode. This works if ur phone is soft bricked and it may not work for u but definitely worth a try
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Sounds like you flashed a single bootloader and hard bricked your phone. Either jtag it or buy a new one...

JIG2WIN4LIFE if you can still turn on your phone without a perma black screen anyways

Hi,
I took a look over "JIG" on eBay, and found it for approx. 8 $.
But it says it can be used for ALL cases, at the exception if the screen stays black ! And that's my case..
So, do I have to buy it anyway, or is it really dead?
I don't want to buy another one!
Thank you.

sometimes the jig works, if you take out battery, DO NOT TOUCH ANY BUTTONS, put in jig. worked for me.
BUT your phone is under 1 year old. it has a warranty. if it happens to get broken in a way that they cant tell, and can never read the phone again... you get a [email protected]!!!
think speaker magnet or
2 seconds in the microwave 1 or 2 times MAX.. dont want phisical dammage! and there is plenty of electronic parts to get messed up very easy this way

TRusselo said:
sometimes the jig works, if you take out battery, DO NOT TOUCH ANY BUTTONS, put in jig. worked for me.
BUT your phone is under 1 year old. it has a warranty. if it happens to get broken in a way that they cant tell, and can never read the phone again... you get a [email protected]!!!
think speaker magnet or
2 seconds in the microwave 1 or 2 times MAX.. dont want phisical dammage! and there is plenty of electronic parts to get messed up very easy this way
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Wow, nuking it will cover your tracks if they try to access anything on it?

if it is electrically damaged and wont work, they cant access it, and they cant see your tracks...
and my buddy nuked a phone before, to destroy it for fun, there were sparks immediatly. if that happens the phone aint going to work anymore. so do it in very short bursts. you do not want any physical damage.
or wave it in-front of a LARGE magnet to degause it until it doesnt boot anymore.

Hi,
Thanks for your reply, but my phone is no more under warranty..
There was no warranty when I bought it from USA (on eBay), and I'm living in Belgium! So, no way
I will have to try the JIG then.. I suppose it's my last chance

yup jig is your last chance..
now the other day i bricked and the jig wouldnt work either unitl I found a trick that helped my jig work. this worked FOR ME in my situation. not all.
remove battery count to 5 and replace battery
DO NOT TOUCH ANY BUTTONS
put in jig. download mode!!!!
if i touched ANY button the jig would not work. worth a shot.
jigs are about 8$ on ebay or can be made with a few resistors for a couple dollars. (or whatever currency you have in Belgium). there are many threads on how to make them in the captivate forums on xda here. just make sure not to touch the resistors with your fingers if you make one. use tape to hold it.!! good luck buddy!

Thanks a lot!
I will buy a JIG on eBay then.. It would be safer!
We are using Euro currency in Belgium . So, a JIG is approximately 6 €.
It's a cheap price for this kind of tool! But by the way, HTC has much more solutions to unbrick their devices..

Phone screen won't come on!

I'm not sure if it's lag or what, but my phone screen won't come on. I think it's a ribbon that was disconnected or something though. For about a few hours if I were to press power to see the lock screen, all I saw where a bunch of rainbow static. Then I powered my phone on and off because nothing would work and now it's jut black! Does anyone know what's wrong? I can't boot into clockwork so I don't think it's a rom problem. Does anyone know the problem or have any idea to fix? Anyone I should ask specifically?

maybe water? even having my phone in the bathroom while i take a shower cause me that

It's not water, I never bring my phone close to place with water :/

can you boot into the screen where there are 3 droids with the skateboards? (i not sure whats the name)

I think I can boot and my phone still works, because it still rings when someone calls and it still vibrates when someone text it, but I just can't pick up or reply (because the screen won't come on). I should be able to boot into that thing, but I can't anything :/

well bro sorry i cant help you :/ maybe it could be the screen,the ribons or somethings loose. did it fell?

aznangel1408 said:
I think I can boot and my phone still works, because it still rings when someone calls and it still vibrates when someone text it, but I just can't pick up or reply (because the screen won't come on). I should be able to boot into that thing, but I can't anything :/
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Seems like either broken ribbon that connects the screen to the "motherboard', or dead screen itself. That's exactly how 1 of my phones died (it was too complicated to disassemble and fix it myself)
But once I had similar problem with my TP2, the screen first become unresponsive to any touch, and then it went just black after restart (and every next restart). However all keys did work.
Hard reset somewhat helped, the screen actually came back, but it was still stuck on setting up Windows Mobile (if you know WinMo: the part where you calibrate touchscreen), apparently "touch" part of the screen didn't work.
I thought it is ribbon or screen assembly, but since all the keys worked I flashed another ROM and what do you know: all problems went away. It worked fine for as long as I had it. I never figured out what caused it/was the problem.

koete said:
well bro sorry i cant help you :/ maybe it could be the screen,the ribons or somethings loose. did it fell?
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MT4GS said:
Seems like either broken ribbon that connects the screen to the "motherboard', or dead screen itself. That's exactly how 1 of my phones died (it was too complicated to disassemble and fix it myself)
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Yea I think that's the problem here. I think I'm just going to borrow a friends mt4gs to use and navigate recovery and do a back up and just buy a new one and restore. Thanks for all the help guys

Skyrocket randomly restarts and vibrates at 2 second intervals?

This has been happening for a few days now, the phone turns off and endlessly vibrates until I pull the battery, and then it does it again and again but it'll work for a few hours before it happens again... I've tried different roms but its still happening and it's getting very frustrating

does it do it on stock? And are you over clocked?
CM9 Skyrocket

droid512 said:
does it do it on stock? And are you over clocked?
CM9 Skyrocket
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I'm back on gingerbread now cuz ICS was unstable and im not overclocked

Sounds like a stuck power button. There is a thread on this somewhere
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

mindmajick said:
Sounds like a stuck power button. There is a thread on this somewhere
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2
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You mean like physically? Seems fine the phone just starts doing it randomly while it's just sitting on the bed. Right now it's not even turning on at all no matter what I try :/

...

Here is one example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
I know there is a good one that goes through the logic of it... but the symptoms seem the same.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

It's in download mode now, I'm going to try downloading stock Rogers ICS and see if the problem persists, if it does I still have 5 months of warranty so hopefully that'll be covered

Ok. You can try jamming on the power button repeatedly too...
Good luck!
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using Tapatalk 2

Looks like the skyrocket's done for good.. I'm going to take it in to the store tomorrow but what do you think they'll say when they fix it and find out it's rooted?

SGS2X said:
Looks like the skyrocket's done for good.. I'm going to take it in to the store tomorrow but what do you think they'll say when they fix it and find out it's rooted?
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EDIT: Is there any way to get my files off the internal SD without being able to turn the phone on? can't get into download mode or recovery because the phone just turns off 3-4 seconds in

SGS2X said:
EDIT: Is there any way to get my files off the internal SD without being able to turn the phone on? can't get into download mode or recovery because the phone just turns off 3-4 seconds in
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no.
try this test, when it goes through the bootloop, keep the power button depressed w/out releasing it and see if it displays the same charactersistics as your bootloops, also count the seconds each situation has, if they are the same then the problem is the sticky power button

As posted earlier, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
It's the power button that is messed up, hands-down.
Try and try and try and sooner or later you'll probably get it. I could care less about the phone as I have a replacement coming, but I wanted to get my data off of it.
Open up you're phone if you're comfortable and mess with the power button directly some, either you're going to fix it long enough to get your data or break it completely...doesn't really matter at this point.
Just put the battery in and right after the phone vibrates hold the power button and see how lucky you are at getting it to last the full 8+ seconds instead of the usual 2 before it reboots and vibrates.
Once you get it working, don't touch that *****. As gently as possible, set it down and get your USB in, turn on Mass USB and debugging and copy your stuff. Put the timeout to the max or download an app so you don't have to touch the power button ever and just touch the screen every once in awhile if you don't have an app. Don't forget to reset your flash counter and reflash stock ODIN if you're rooted or on anything custom (Use ADB to reboot through all this)
Honestly...I let my phone restart on its own for a total of like 8 hours (I didn't care and honestly hoped it burnt up or something and was completely fried) and I watched it for a good chunk of the time and it never booted up on its own. After I took it apart twice and beat the hell out of the power button a good while I finally got it to work.
Repeatedly mashing it after 'attempting' to clean it and then pulling the battery/reinserting and seeing if it worked is how I finally got mine.
Now it's just a paper weight till the new one comes.
Edit: I find it weird that a lot more of these problems are popping up. I noticed a bunch of threads on various sites towards the end of June that had popped up and now some are here too recently. I guess the Skyrocket's cheap-feeling Power Button is indeed...cheap.

It isn't the power button. I posted this problem months ago and took it in to a device center. It was actually a battery issue where it connects into the phone. The charge going into the phone doesn't stick, causing it to flicker power and thus restart constantly. They never ended up getting my old one to turn on and never saw it was rooted and what not. Ended up just giving me a refurbished one.
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aceownstheworld said:
It isn't the power button. I posted this problem months ago and took it in to a device center. It was actually a battery issue where it connects into the phone. The charge going into the phone doesn't stick, causing it to flicker power and thus restart constantly. They never ended up getting my old one to turn on and never saw it was rooted and what not. Ended up just giving me a refurbished one.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I727 using xda premium
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well if it never turns on, then its not the sticky power button problem, the sticky power button has a reboot symptom at a consistent interval

hd2k10 said:
As posted earlier, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1801226
It's the power button that is messed up, hands-down.
Try and try and try and sooner or later you'll probably get it. I could care less about the phone as I have a replacement coming, but I wanted to get my data off of it.
Open up you're phone if you're comfortable and mess with the power button directly some, either you're going to fix it long enough to get your data or break it completely...doesn't really matter at this point.
Just put the battery in and right after the phone vibrates hold the power button and see how lucky you are at getting it to last the full 8+ seconds instead of the usual 2 before it reboots and vibrates.
Once you get it working, don't touch that *****. As gently as possible, set it down and get your USB in, turn on Mass USB and debugging and copy your stuff. Put the timeout to the max or download an app so you don't have to touch the power button ever and just touch the screen every once in awhile if you don't have an app. Don't forget to reset your flash counter and reflash stock ODIN if you're rooted or on anything custom (Use ADB to reboot through all this)
Honestly...I let my phone restart on its own for a total of like 8 hours (I didn't care and honestly hoped it burnt up or something and was completely fried) and I watched it for a good chunk of the time and it never booted up on its own. After I took it apart twice and beat the hell out of the power button a good while I finally got it to work.
Repeatedly mashing it after 'attempting' to clean it and then pulling the battery/reinserting and seeing if it worked is how I finally got mine.
Now it's just a paper weight till the new one comes.
Edit: I find it weird that a lot more of these problems are popping up. I noticed a bunch of threads on various sites towards the end of June that had popped up and now some are here too recently. I guess the Skyrocket's cheap-feeling Power Button is indeed...cheap.
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Alright, I will definitely try and try until the phone turns on before taking it into the store. This has actually been happening for a few days now but I didn't really care too much because I was really busy and I thought since it turns on after a few tries, I'll just take the files off and return it to stock later. Also, yesterday someone gave the suggestion of repeatedly jamming the power button and that actually worked twice but after that it never worked again.
Is it possible to remove the back and fix the power button without voiding the warranty (are there any stickers)?
EDIT: I have it disassembled right now, what exactly should I do to the power button? I tried clicking it a few times and blowing at it nd I put the battery in but still the same thing
EDIT 2: Umm what looks to be the litmus paper on the inside is red.. the phone has never come in contact with water so how is this possible..
EDIT 3: Every housing I've seen online (4-5) has a red square on the housing so I'm guessing it comes in red by default? Either way I'm taking it to Rogers right now, they said I could have a refurbished for 35 or I can just repair this one so I'm just going to repair it and hopefully the files will be preserved.
My only concern.. the phone running Juggernaut 5 right now LOL and the internal SD is full of rom zips and kernels so hopefully they don't look at that, or don't care. Once they repair the phone, what can they really do tho? Break it again nd send it back? haha

SGS2X said:
Alright, I will definitely try and try until the phone turns on before taking it into the store. This has actually been happening for a few days now but I didn't really care too much because I was really busy and I thought since it turns on after a few tries, I'll just take the files off and return it to stock later. Also, yesterday someone gave the suggestion of repeatedly jamming the power button and that actually worked twice but after that it never worked again.
Is it possible to remove the back and fix the power button without voiding the warranty (are there any stickers)?
EDIT: I have it disassembled right now, what exactly should I do to the power button? I tried clicking it a few times and blowing at it nd I put the battery in but still the same thing
EDIT 2: Umm what looks to be the litmus paper on the inside is red.. the phone has never come in contact with water so how is this possible..
EDIT 3: Every housing I've seen online (4-5) has a red square on the housing so I'm guessing it comes in red by default? Either way I'm taking it to Rogers right now, they said I could have a refurbished for 35 or I can just repair this one so I'm just going to repair it and hopefully the files will be preserved.
My only concern.. the phone running Juggernaut 5 right now LOL and the internal SD is full of rom zips and kernels so hopefully they don't look at that, or don't care. Once they repair the phone, what can they really do tho? Break it again nd send it back? haha
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I would just fiddle with the power hoping for the best.
As far as your roms go, I doubt it'll be a problem. A) They're not going to get the phone to turn on anyway. They're probably just going to repair the button and reflash before they even check anything. Either way, like you said, the worst case is they find it but you already have your replacement...maybe they'll try charging you the phone, throw a hassle and offer to cancel your service and tell them to send you your "unwarranteed phone" and the button repair bill and they can have theirs back. I don't seem them getting you for it. All they might do is check the flash counter which probably hasn't been tripped if you didn't use a bad ODIN.

Juggernaut 5
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i never seen this rom, where did u get it, is it for the skyrocket, if not could be your prob

hd2k10 said:
I would just fiddle with the power hoping for the best.
As far as your roms go, I doubt it'll be a problem. A) They're not going to get the phone to turn on anyway. They're probably just going to repair the button and reflash before they even check anything. Either way, like you said, the worst case is they find it but you already have your replacement...maybe they'll try charging you the phone, throw a hassle and offer to cancel your service and tell them to send you your "unwarranteed phone" and the button repair bill and they can have theirs back. I don't seem them getting you for it. All they might do is check the flash counter which probably hasn't been tripped if you didn't use a bad ODIN.
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vincom said:
i never seen this rom, where did u get it, is it for the skyrocket, if not could be your prob
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Flash counter is at 0, I checked when I managed to get into Download mode before it stopped working altogether. Juggernaut 5 is a rom for the Hercules (T989) and that's not the problem, I've used it before and I only flashed it after the problem started because I thought ICS was the problem, but it stayed even after flashing Juggernaut.

so what did u end up doing, fool around w/the power button or did u bring it in