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JABRA Oddities

Ok, I have a BT200 that is working very quirkly with my i-mate. Sometimes the phone transfers the call to the headset, sometimes it doesn't. After deleting and recreating the bond, it works, but not for long. Anyone have one of these setup and working properly? Is there a trick to it?
Also, does anyone know if other headset drivers exist that may work on the i-mate that would allow you to hear all audio (not just phone) through a bluetooth earpiece?

Figured it out?
Ok, I've finally pinpointed that it works fine until I turn off the jabra headset, then when I turn it back on, I have to go through the entire thing again of re-creating the bond, etc..
Anyone know how to avoid having to recreate this everytime I turn the headset on or off?

I don't now ... but i have also jaba 200 and the MDA II is must arrive...
well please chip us informed
Thanks
DenisJ

I have the same combination and have also observed the same hassles.
It seems to work when I turn the BT headset function on the MDA off and on also. Thsi seems to result in a rebond.

Exact Steps
TBD,
If you could post the exact order of the steps you take to turn on / off the headset, I'd appreciate it. Right now, I'm doing the following:
1. Finish BT Headset Call.
2. Disable Bluetooth Headset Mode on Phone.
3. Disable Bluetooth on the phone.
4. Hold button on JABRA to turn it off.
Then, attempting to...
1. Hold button on JABRA to turn it on.
2. Enable Bluetooth on the phone (Set to "On" or "Discoverable")
3. Enable Bluetooth Headset Mode on phone.
4. Attempt to make call.
So if you could posts steps like that, i'd appreciate it. Also, do you set your bluetooth to "On" or "Discoverable"? Do you ever turn off the Bluetooth Radio completely?
Thanks,
Jon.

Yup me an all. I too have the Jabra BT200 and have the same problem. Providing you don't switch off the headset or go out of range your ok, but for instance when you leave the headset in the car and take the XDA2 with you you have to create a new bond to use it again. AHHHHHHHHH!!!
Shame cos so much else has been sorted on it.....and more. What a piece of kit!!
SOMEBODY HELP!!!

OK, so here is the sequence, which seems to work (for me).
1) I set everything up as per instruction. creating the bond between the Jabra and the MDA II.
2) Before (or after) I turn off the Jabra I disable the BT-Headset on the Today-screen.
3) Then I turn the Jabra on again and wait several seconds before enabling the BT Headset on the MDA II.
This seems to work most of the time, though the hint regarding going out of distance might explain the instabilities I have still observed. In any case, using the BT-Headset ON/Off on the Today-screen seems to resync things most of the time and get the Jabra up and running again.
Hope this helps and always open for new ideas

I have been a bit impatient after turning the BT headset on. I'll try it and let you guys know.

I may have been a bit optomistic. :roll:
Today I observed that sometimes the Headset reacts very late. Consequently you miss half of the call. Seems to be an XDA problem.

As for my XDA II with Sony Ericsson HBH-65, after creating the bond, before i turn off the BT headset, i turn off BT profile and BT on my PDA, then turn off the Headset.
If i want to turn on the headset, i activate BT on my PDA, then BT profile, the the headset. Sometimes in teh day headset seem to lose the bond and cannot use the BT to call or whatever. I tried turning on/off BT on my PDA, did not work. Turn on/off headset, it worked. So for me most of the time is my headset causing the problems

i am having the same problem with the new moto bluetooth headset although i have experienced no problemzs with the se hbh-30 bluetooth headset....i can turn off and transfer calls without any impact on teh bonding

Jabra problems
I've had similar problems on a boring old Nokia 6310 with my BT200. In the end, all I could do was find the 'automaticly reconnect' option on the Nokia. during calls, the link is allways fine, but between calls, when I guess one end or the other goes to sleep, the link will drop out, and then instantly reconnect. This happens around 2 or 3 times an hour.
Is there a 'automaticly reconnect' option on your XDA?
All the best
James

OK, I finally sacked my Jabra 200, because of its instability. What use is a headset, that doesn't repond when a call comes in? :evil:
I bought a B-Speech from B-Data yesterday and it seems to be working much better :lol: .

Nokia HS-3w headset with XDA II
Well! I am using the Nokia HS-3W Bluetooth Headset with my XDA II . I can pair up two devices and use it for only ten minutes :twisted: . After that, the headset will off(goes to sleep) . I Have to turn on the headset every ten minutes. I ask the dealer about the problem. They told me this headset work fine with Nokia's phone. They told me , there is three color on the light. Red light will flash when you turn off the headset. Green Light will flash when you turn on the headset up to ten minutes, if cann't find the phone devices , it will goes off.White light will flash, when the headset connected to the phone. When I turn on the headset, I just can see the green light only.But, if someone call me or I make a call ,the white light will flash.After the that the headset will flash the green light again for about ten minutes and goes off. Can anyone help me with this problem? Thanks!

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Hi, I will like to ask how your headset B-Speech is working.
It works 100%?
I have a jabra 250 with the same problems as BT200
Please let me know
Regards
JoseF

The B-Speech Headset is working OK, however it doesn't solve the problems with the Microsoft BT-stack.
Some observations, probably also applicable to the Jabra:
:?: When you go out of range with the headset, it will probably not reconnect automatically (but how do you know)
:x On an incoming call, the XDA may be very slow in activating the headset, so you might miss the call (seems to be tied into what the XDA s/w is just doing at the time
When you turn the Headset off, make sure to turn it off on the Today screen first. And when you turn them on, make sure to wait about 2 sec. after you turn the headset on before turning it on on the Today screen.
:idea: What seems to work best, is turning that Headset off and then on again on the Today screen. It usually comes back after that.
Mind you, it isn't the headset thats causing these problems. Its just that Microsoft botched the Bluetooth stack - probably the programmers had blue teeth from all the wine they were drinking!

I've found the out of range issue to be mute on my jabra 200. The only time the bond is broken is when the headset has been turned off. Or sometimes when it has been on charge.....

Strange........I use the Jabra BT 250 with the MDA II and have non of these reconnection problems. I f I turn it on and place a call (or receive) it reacts immediately.
However, I cannot use the advanced Headset Profile features of the Jabra with the MDA, but this is not the fault of the Jabra........

Could the people who are having problems and the people who are not having problems with their Jabra BT200's please post their version numbers of the Jabra BT200. You can find the version number on the boom going to the microphone. It will be 2 numbers and a letter, like 48A or something like that. I'm testing a theory that I think will help identify why some people work and some don't.
Thanks,
LouisK

Ok, the number on my Jabra Bt 250 is 44B.

Bluetooth headsets - sequence of operation

I decided to open a new thread although there were several threads on the use of bluetooth headsets. My intent is to explore whether there is a particular sequence that we need to follow when operating the XDAII and BT headset. I am using a Ericsson HBH-65.
First observation:
I notice that I need to end all calls via the bluetooth headset rather than from the XDAII. If I end a call using the XDAII (ie depressing the red button), for subsequent calls whether incoming or outcoming, I cannot use the headset. There is no connection between the 2. I seem to be able to simulate this almost 99% of the time.
Second observation:
I normally switch off my BT headset overnight for charging purposes etc. At the same time I deactivate the BT settings on my XDAII.
The next morning, I would activate the BT settings, BT profiles and then switch on my headset.
I notice that for the first call I made/receive the next day, I will have problems using the headset. I am not quite sure whether it is the case that I need to switch on my BT headset first and then the XDAII BT settings and BT profiles. I say this as to resolve the problem, I seemingly need to deactivate/activate the BT profile settings before it works and then for subsequent calls I would have no problems using the headset. This needs further testing to test my hypothesis.
Anyone notice anything different on their part.
regards

Same issues
I have had the HBH-65 and have noticed the same issues. I have also had an Logitech and did not have any problems with that.. I am guessing the issue is with the firmware on the HBH-65.

I use Bluetake GII with my xda2. No sequence, no problems. I never even think about switching it on or off. Works in any sequence. Nice looking too! :wink:

I have a Jabra 250, and I do not have to follow any ritual to have it to work fine

I have a Logitech Bluetooth headset with my Qtek 2020 (rom 1.60.21), and it works like crap.
First of all, the headset wont turn on/off sometimes.
Second - if its turned on, and the qtek has been turned off, i need to reconnect it, to switch automatticly when recieving a call.
Thirdly - both speak and hear is very poor quality/fare away (very silent) even though ive turned the volume to maxx.

BT Headset - Works Flawlessly
I have a Sony Ericsson HBH-30 headset and I never give the slightest thought to sequences or procedures. I can turn the headset on and off, the profile on and off, even the BT stack on and off - without ever having to re-bond or anything else.
Now if I could just voice-dial a call with the bloody thing I would be truly happy indeed.

Same problems but getting it figured out
I have the HBH-65 and it seems to work fine now that I've hopefully figured it out. I do a few things. First, I leave the Bluetooth on, on my i-Mate. Second, once it's in range I've noticed it takes about a minute for it to link up. When it links it either makes a single beep (if I just turned on the Headset) or a quiet click if it was already on. I doesn't work ALL of the time, but the more I use it the better it gets. I really expected it to be a little easier.

I have the HBH-200 with call display...which the salesman assured me that it would work with my XDA 2! Call display does not work, and if I end a call on the O2 the headset will hang. Other than that it's great!

I Have a XDAII and a HBH-35
They key to it seems to be not to turn anything off ! it's really frustrating when you think it's all linked up and then get in the car only to recieve a call and not be able to answer it with the headset.
If I have turned the headset off it's a right pain to bond again, red, green lights, funny beeps it's very confusing !
Once it's bonded it's great ! I am amazed with the call quality.

I have an Sony Ericsson HBH 35, I have no problem w3ith the bluetooth pick up call are end calls.
I can even transfer call from my bluetooth to the handaset and by reverse pick up call on my handset and then transfer the call back to the headset all I have to do his to hold the button on the headset fro a few second and the call transfer from the handaset to the bluetooth headset no problem.
Great piece of headset I would really reccomended it to anyone.
The rom on my XDA II is still the version 1.05
Regards
Gigino

Cheers Gigino
Do you ever turn your headset off or disable bluetooth?
I don't have any problems when it's bonded. Just problems if I turn the headset off to save battery

I only turn the headset off at night when I charge it. I use to swwitch off the headset but not anymore becauswe if it is on it use very very little power so it last all day with no problem.
The bluetooth on the XDA II I have never turn it off since I bought it 5 month ago the bluetooth headset on the XdA II is always on.
I've try it switch it of and then on the bletooth and the bluetooh heaset on the XDA II but when I turn it on and turn the headset on it all works fine.
They is no issue on the headset I've tryed every diffrent combinetion the is and the headset works fine.
I have never needed to rebond the headset with the XDA II.
The only thing I have not try is if I can receive a second caller.
Mean trying to switch between 2 caller when I have the chance I will try it.
Regards
Gigino

cheers

Parrot CK3000 BT car kit for XDA2

Just letting people know that the Parrot CK3000 car kit works great with my XDA2. It only uses "headset" mode, so functionality is limited, but it routes the calls through the car speakers and mutes the stereo, so that's all you can really ask.
On my Alfa, I couldn't use the standard ISO connectors, as the car has a separate amplifier in the boot, but chopping the ISO connectors off and connecting the wires separately to the "telephone in" connectors on the back of the radio worked just fine. I can even adjust the volume of the phone call via the steering wheel audio controls!
There's a reassuring "beep" when I turn on the ignition to let youknow tha the devices have bonded and every few days, something goes skewey on the PDA and I have to do a soft-reset to make the bluetooth bond work again, but otherwise, it works fine.
I've put an icon on my PDA for the warm-reset, so that I can do it easily in the car if I realise that it hasn't bonded automatically.
The only real glitch I've found is that if you get to your destination whilst still on the phone, I can't find any way to transfer the call back to the handset without terminating the call - any help on that would be gratefully appreciated.

Good to hear it works, I have a CK3300 with the BT GPS Functionality on route for review.
In asnwer to your question, to hand over the BT headset call to the phone just tap the 'Headphone' Icon on the status bar of the XDA.

Darren,
Funnily enough, I was just outside in the car experimenting when you replied.
Sure enough, if you tap the headphone icon on the PDA, the call is successfully transferred back to the PDA and you can carry on the call directly on the PDA.
If you then press the green button on the car kit, the call will also transfer back to the car kit again.
But - Here's my last issue - If you get into the car with a call already in progress on the PDA and then turn on the car ignition, the car kit beeps to confirm that it has bonded, but I can't find any way to actually transfer the open call to the car kit....
Finally - I've come to the XDA forum for a break from Pocketgps.co.uk! I usually spend my evenings on your site. Tonight, for the first time in weeks, I thought that I'd go and seek other company. Who should be the first to reply to my post here but you!
You're going to tell me now that you also drive an Alfa and that you too frequent the alfaowner.com site as well aren't you!!!
Cheers Darren.

Ah well you see we obviously share a passion for gadgets but not Alfa's, current car is an X-Type shortly to be replaced by a Discovery and yes I spend time at both of their owners ites as well (Note to self, need to get out more!).
I think I'm correct in saying that you can't hand over an active call to a BT Handsfree be it headset or car-kit, I suspect this is a limitation of the XDA's BT Stack (thanks Microsoft NOT!)
I shall leave you in peace now, you've probably had enough of my ramblings back at home base ;')

Is this the same kit: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=PAR_CK3000
There is also an upgrade http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=FLS-KIT but it doesn't say what you get for your £45.
Any ideas?

alfiejts said:
But - Here's my last issue - If you get into the car with a call already in progress on the PDA and then turn on the car ignition, the car kit beeps to confirm that it has bonded, but I can't find any way to actually transfer the open call to the car kit....
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Hit the green button on the carkit, that should do it.
If not, install the XDA2 Bluetooth tool, and retry...

Nope - Green button is documented as being the way to do this for most phones, but it doesn't work with my XDA2....
I did try to install Bluetooth tools ut then couldn't get the devide to pair with the Parrott at all, so I hastily removed them.....
I'll think that I'll live with as it is, now that everything else is stable and works OK....

Annoying issue with bluetooth headset

Hello all,
I've had my TP for over a month now, and globally I'm pretty much happy with it. Of course there are some glitches here and there, but no doubt a firmware upgrade will fix those bugs soon.
That said, there's an annoying issue with the way bluetooth headsets work with the phone part. Let me try to explain :
- When an incoming call occurs and I answer using the "take call" button on my headset (which is a Plantronics Pulsar 590), sounds is transferred to the headset and everything works fine.
- When an incoming call occurs and I answer using the "answer" button on the mobile, the sound stays on the TP even if the headset is switched on and connected to the TP.
When the latter happens, I can't get the sound back to the headset. When I select "transfer to hands-free" from the phone menu, the transfer works erratically.
Is there a fix available somewhere to make sure that, when the headset is on and connected, the sound of an incoming call always goes to the headset?
Thanks a lot in advance for any help you may bring on solving this issue!

Are you using AEBPlus?

No (and honestly, I don't see how that relates to the problem)

Hi Guys,
I also have this issue.
But if I press the 'answer call' on the mobile the sound stays with the Touch Pro but if, once I realise what I've done, I press the 'answer call' on the headset then audio is transferred to the headset again.
Does that happen for you? I'm using an SBTHS-3500 BT headset.
Cheers,
D.

clandestino_usr said:
No (and honestly, I don't see how that relates to the problem)
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Sorry, I had multiple tabs open for responses.
Copy'n'Paste error.
P.S. I had this issue on my TP and Diamond as well. I have since installed a 2.03-based ROM which fixes the issue (since you can no longer press the phone button to answer, but rather have to use a slider).

Enable SMS over Bluetooth?

I have the Kenwood DNX8120 and it works fine with my Fuze (did have disconnect issues but just updated the Kenwood firmware which should take care of that) but the SMS feature on the radio doesn't work. I know only certain phones are compatible with this feature but on the Kenwood compatibility list there are several HTC devices that work. In any case, does anyone know how to enable SMS over bluetooth on the Fuze?
Thanks

I have the Kenwood DNX8120 in my car and have had no luck getting the Fuze to work correctly. It constantly drops connection. I updated the Bluetooth firmware and that only seemed to make matters worse. It will pair with the Kenwood, but either won't make a phone call or will take up to 60 seconds (or not at all) for the Fuze to recognize I it the call button on the radio. SMS, sent and received call history also do not work.
Have you had similar issues?

I can not get sms working. The only other issue I have is that after a call, it drops the connection. If I get another incoming call, it will reconnect and the radio will ring and handle the call. But, if I want to place a call, I have to either select "set as hands free" of something similar, in the bluetooth settings on teh phone and it reconnects and I can dial. I just upgraded to elite rc3 and the problem is still there. I havn't messed with it enough yet to know if it dials ok without having to bring the phone out of standby yet. I too have updated the bluetooth drivers from Kenwood and that didn't help. I also tried the jetware handfree extension and didn't see any improvement.

I called HTC about this, and they told me it only "officially" supports a hand full of car units. Mostly in the Audi and BMW. They don't "officially" support anything from Kenwood so they were absolutely no help on this. I've also noticed this phone drops all connections except cell and data when it sleeps. Wifi, GPS and Bluetooh all seem to go to sleep with the phone. This seems to make bluetooth pretty useless if the connection drops every time the phone sleeps and needs to be manually reconnected.

I haven't seen it drop the bluetooth connection during sleep. I see that the Kenwood supports some HTC devices but not this one specifically. The other wierd thing is that the first time it pairs it shows the battery indicator but after the next connect it doesn't show it. It shows the battery icon but shows it empty. The jetware extension however does fix that. I will play some more with it and report here.

After resetting my phone to AT&T's original setup, I am experiencing the exact same functionality as you. It now sync's my call history and phone book. No voice dial support or SMS yet. (These have never worked with any of my phones) It will disconnect after a couple phone calls and I have to set as hands free to reconnect. Also, mine still looses the connection to the unit when it goes to sleep. I'm keeping it on a car charger for now and turning off any sleep function when charging. That at least keeps it connected until I make a call. It's almost still not worth using with having to reconnect hands free. Maybe if a hands free quick connect shortcut could be created?
This is all really ridiculous that a phone with this kind of tech can't auto pair and be ready for a call. My LG Chocolate had absolutely no problems with the Kenwood. As soon as the Kenwood finished booting the LG would auto connect and be ready for a call.

I thought I found a workaround at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ghlight=bluetooth+connection+drops+phone+call
But, once installed an trying to run BT Restart I get an error saying that I need .net compact framework (version 1 or 2) installed. Not sure what to do now, cant seem to find a cab for this.

I've used this package from another post on the forum. It has many useful apps including the latest version of .net compact framework.
http://www.tyguy.net/_xchg/PPC/@essentials.rar
Let me know how it turns out!

I will take a look but I have 3.5 already installed. I guess that app needs the older version. Not sure I want to mess with downgrading it.

Not Kenwood
Hey Guys,
I drive a Jag XK8 and it has the same issues you are mentioning with your Kenwood, but its an Alpine unit, it drops calls, and after the first call connects the second call rings on the stereo but you can only answer on the handset.
I also recently had a new Jag XF for a week. It had a full integration to the phone. It also only showed the battery status when the phone first connected then the battery showed empty. It would drop bluetooth connections constantly on some days (every 90secs) and then somedays it would keep the bluetooth connected without issue. Very unreliable.
The reason I bring this up, is just to let you know these issues are not limited to the Kenwood.
Dave

Just an FYI. I have found it easier to just go into setup in the Kenwood and reconnect the bluetooth from there when the phone disconnects. It's under Setup/Bluetooth/Set, then just click on the device and hit connect. It seems easier than fiddling with the phone while your driving.