Well, I'm glad I always back up stuff... I have installed Windows 7 on my laptop, and everything works well...except for syncing contacts and the calendar. It deleted everything I had on the WM unit (an Atom Life). All contacts and all appointments. It doesn't seem to work with Outlook 2003 at all. Anybody got this working, or am I just a too early adopter? I may of course set up a virtual machine with XP and run Outlook 2003 on that, but it's a bit of a hazzle.
Maybe Outlook 2003 is the problem...time to go office '07...trust me, it is so much better
Actually it's not. I really, really, really hate the interface. It's total crap, created for the mouse age and for people starting up with that version. I'm 40+ and firmly and forever stuck in the "everything worth doing is possible to do with a keyboard" age! And I have all shortcuts and menues in Office 2003 firmly in my fingers. I tried 2007 for two weeks, but I found out that I worked at least 40 % slower with that, after those weeks. That was of course better than the first few days, when everything took at least twice as long... But it still didn't seem to improve much more beyond the first week. So I went back to the image of my hard drive before I installed it.
But thanks a lot for the idea! It didn't occur to me that the problem could be there. I will try to install just Outlook 2007 and see if that helps! Maybe even the slightly newer version that comes with the Atom Life might help. I think I'll try that first. I'll let you know!
Edit: Make that slightly older... It's Outlook 2002 that comes with the Atom!
Solved! I wish everything was this easy (all though the easiest stuff can be the hardest to figure out). It only takes three steps to sync your WM unit with Windows 7 prebeta:
1. Download Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 for Vista.
2. Install Windows Mobile Device Center 6.1 for Vista.
3. Sync.
That's all that was needed. I thought that was already built in, but it isn't. So now I'm syncing like crazy with my beloved Outlook 2003!
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Actually it's not. I really, really, really hate the interface. It's total crap, created for the mouse age and for people starting up with that version. I'm 40+ and firmly and forever stuck in the "everything worth doing is possible to do with a keyboard" age! And I have all shortcuts and menues in Office 2003 firmly in my fingers. I tried 2007 for two weeks, but I found out that I worked at least 40 % slower with that, after those weeks. That was of course better than the first few days, when everything took at least twice as long... But it still didn't seem to improve much more beyond the first week. So I went back to the image of my hard drive before I installed it.
But thanks a lot for the idea! It didn't occur to me that the problem could be there. I will try to install just Outlook 2007 and see if that helps! Maybe even the slightly newer version that comes with the Atom Life might help. I think I'll try that first. I'll let you know!
Edit: Make that slightly older... It's Outlook 2002 that comes with the Atom!
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Gotta agree. The biggest problem to me is having successfully mastered the way Office was, learning the new Office isn't something I want to spend my time doing.
mastiff can to provide link by pm where u got the window 7 from.
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Gotta agree. The biggest problem to me is having successfully mastered the way Office was, learning the new Office isn't something I want to spend my time doing.
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Touche! I've been using Excel for years, took me about 5 minutes to find how to protect the data !
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Touche! I've been using Excel for years, took me about 5 minutes to find how to protect the data !
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The new Word and Powerpoint interfaces are totally different.
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Well, I'm glad I always back up stuff... I have installed Windows 7 on my laptop, and everything works well...except for syncing contacts and the calendar. It deleted everything I had on the WM unit (an Atom Life). All contacts and all appointments. It doesn't seem to work with Outlook 2003 at all. Anybody got this working, or am I just a too early adopter? I may of course set up a virtual machine with XP and run Outlook 2003 on that, but it's a bit of a hazzle.
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Can you let us know where you downloaded windows 7?
Thanks,
can people not use google, torrent searches, demonoid or rapidshare searchers
well i think the above posts asking where it is answered my qustion
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can people not use google, torrent searches, demonoid or rapidshare searchers
well i think the above posts asking where it is answered my qustion
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Hey, you don´t have to be that rude, we all know that sites, here the idea is to help, so if I ask this is to have the opinion from the one I´m asking to, so he can point me the site he downloaded and any other comments. So let´s try to be nice here.
This community is to help each other members, not to say how noob we are.
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Can you let us know where you downloaded windows 7?
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he cant answer you because the beta version of windows 7 hasnt even been released yet!
the version going round the various torrent sites has not been officially released by microsoft stay clear till official beta is released sometime in dec 2008
I found that Windows Mobile Device Center would crash every time I attempted to sync with a Windows 7 computer, the only way round this so far is to set the compatability program to Windows Vista RTM.
Now the phone happily syncs (and for some reason much faster than it did on Vista) on Windows 7 pre BETA.
Not trying to argue here but one 60 minute session of training on the Ribbon was all I needed. I have increased my productivity within Office as a result. I find that every command I need is one click away where as older versions needed multiple clicks.
The gentlemen who mentioned all keyboard controls I can't argue with but for my touch screen Office work the ribbon is bomb.
Question might be better fared here...
Allegedly, my employer does not support BBConnect, only Blackberry Only devices.
If I was to run BBConnect on the HTCFuze - would it work? I'm not familiar with the BES interface and settings... so I figured you all may be a bit more knowledgeable on this.
Any help is appreciated...
As a BES admin i can say that the BES does support BBConnect but it is quite possible that this functionality has been disabled at the BES itself.
For it to work, and i am assuming that you are looking for full two way synch of mail/calendar/address book, then you are going to need the co-operation of the BES admin. If he says no dice then i am afraid it is no dice.
Also BBC is never going to give you the full BB experience, i had two BBC users, one of whose handsets broke and after two days with a real BB he said to not bother replacing the dead handset.
Are the company going to be paying for any part of this?
Thanks for the responce...
They are not paying or any part of this- as I'm a 3rd party consultant. I've previously used my blackberry that has since died. I'd assume the information I got was their general dismallal of useage of the blackberry connect.
All I really need is my mail useability on a WM6 platform- so I can utilize the phone for my consulatant company needs, as well as my employer (blackberry) needs right now. This would mean a WM6 platform letting meuse webmail- and a secure BBconnect app on the WM6 to let me just check my mail- thats all I need from the BES.
Im just trying to avoid carrying 2 phones with me... that's really all. I'm not trying to compromise security- they are interfering with my productivity!
do they allow OWA access to your email? if so look at setting it up as a BIS connection. never done it and we don't run Exchange so it's not an option for us but it may do what you want without impacting anything else.
Once again Microsoft has made the decision to scale back features for Windows Mobile users.
I received an email from Microsoft today indicating that they would be ending the service of two more Windows Mobile FEATURES.
The first service to be cut this time isn't too bad. Microsoft is terminating the Marketplace website within a few months. The site is scheduled to go offline forever on July 15, 2011. You will still be able to utilize the Marketplace mobile application to buy and download applications. No big deal right???
Then comes the decision that really chaps my hyde.
Microsoft is also discontinuing the MyPhone service ALL TOGETHER!
I don't know about you, but that was one of the features that I use frequently & even influenced my decision to use Windows Mobile instead of Android or the iPhone.
Microsoft heavily touted this feature in their information and marketing materials. One of the things I PAID FOR was the ability to backup ans sync my device information and it's location on a daily basis. Many cooks use the MyPhone service & I don't know anbody that hasn't had to use it a time or two.
Microsoft is terminating completely, the MyPhone service, both the website & the mobile device application on August 7, 2011.
This is an absolute tragedy & a terrible decision in my opinion & the opinions of all the users I personally interact with.
This was a great service & something that really set Microsoft apart from many other platforms. Say your phone died, you are out of town on business & need your contact, out came the old backup device 7 wham, minutes later you had your texts, contacts, email & documents back in your hands.
What is even more saddening, Microsoft is trying to sell us on the fact that SkyDrive is the superior product, that they are somehow helping us out & giving us a better solution to use. Where is SkyDrive mobile? Does it help me find my lost device? Can SMS & email messages be backed up & downloaded straight to my device through a neat & nicely integrated application? THE ANSWER IS NO!!! MyPhone is great for road warriors & is used by so many people I know. Not just the app, but the website that also saved this information from my previous device as well.
All I can say is that this is a MAJOR disappointment!
So, why do I buy Microsoft when they kill everything a year or two later?
Well, before this it was because I was a loyal user since the days of CE. Microsoft had a great development platform & was innovative. They really were first on the scene with barcode scanning though Elure, (Remember the stick-on magnifying glass?) It was great, but they let it die.
How about the promise of a great speach to text and search application? Tell me? No, really, TellMe. Microsoft bought TellMe & promised us this great application that first was developed for Blackberry & then never followed through with the application for Windows Mobile users.
Why is it that Microsoft develops competing technologies & then always dumps one without regard for what user want & actually use? I just can't understand why they never integrate the popular features of one service into it's successor. Why should you go out & buy WP7, The OS that took forever to come out & that they are already replacing? In my opinion you shouldn't That should tell you something, because I have been an avid supporter of Windows Mobile from the start, before the start. (Can you say Pocket PC 2002).
I am looking more & more at Android & will most likely be making a new acquisition soon.
I got the same email and althought my phone still has a till is cut off completely (the start of the move to sky drive is on the date you stated) and i also have been an avid supporter of window mobile since the early days, a user since windows CE 2002 and now a developer of applications for the platform, I suddenly feel i am presneted with a choice. Go with windows mobile or android. This presents me with 3 problems. Firstly, i have a little less than a year on my contract before i can upgrade (i can't afford to go out and just buy a new phone right now) and, secondly, i hate android with a passion. Don't get me wrong, it suits most people and i'm not a MS fanboy (boy used loosely since i'm alomst 30) but i just don't like the UI and i miss the feature set CHT brought to my windows mobile device and before that how easy it was to get around the stock windows user interface. Last of all i've not seen anything on windows Phone 7 that would sway me. I'm not an xbox user, i use copy and paste alot (i know there is an update for that coming/out) and most of all, from my reading, i need to go and buy a new WP7 HTC device to get the most out of it and most of them suck!
So what do i do? get a nokia and screw up my work rate when i'm out of the office? Go android and hate every second of my life to the point i wish i'd bought a nokia? or go with windows phone 7 for my hd2 and suffer the pain of all the bugs of porting an OS to a phone it was never designed to run on?
The way i see it, right now, after having a few beers and being on the wrong side of sober, i might as well have been pushed off a building with the words "F**k you, A**hole!"
it seems we are really few users. only 16 posts about this ridiculous decision. see thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115987&page=2
Well as you see I'm a total noob and I claim the title proudly. So while I skewed your poll a little I did find this post to be very informative. I had actually never heard of MyPhone but after reading the passionate thread that sounds exactly like what I could have been using for quite some time now. Though this may be a long shot, if you do come across a program that is comparable to MyPhone would you be willing to share? As being able to easily sync and transfer my data from phone to phone has always been my largest/ chief complaint with any phone carrier.
and MyPhone is one of the key points to WHY I have a wm6.5 phone after all.. this, and compatibility with older mobile software.
If someone finds a replacement app, I would be glad to know it too.
I'm disappointed that Microsoft is getting rid of the service. It really helped with flashing ROMs and such things. Definitely not getting a WP7 phone when I upgrade.
First of all half of this article is confusing. The part regarding the Marketplace shut down is misleading. The only thing that is being discontinued from the marketplace is the website that we can access from our browsers. According to Microsoft's own website (link is in the email, I was confused at first as well).
Next, the MyPhone service is a pretty novel idea, but it's almost one way, you can only sync to the servers, but the servers only sync to your phone, why not just use PPCBackup then if it's going to be synced to one place anyways. It makes better sense now with Hotmails ActiveSync support to use that instead, the only downside being is some data isn't synced (text messages for example, but at least contacts (primary), calendar, email, and tasks are supported). I tried MyPhone before, but the limitation of it being stuck on the MyPhone server and not being able to share it anywhere else was the reason I never used it regularly. I wish they'd upgrade the service to use Windows Live, which would be an improvement over the current syncing.
probably it's not much people knowing this.... i myself never check my live mail mail box and only know microsoft decision right now.....
Cleary this is not as big a travesty as you think it is, not to take anything away from you but WIN MO is a dead platform. People always have a hard time admitting this but there are about 12 posts on this subject so I am pretty sure MSFT is not really feeling the heat about there decision. It like seeing someone who lived a full and happy life die, you are sad but know that there time has come, much like everything WIN MO related. I recommend you pick up an Android phone and move on.
Well MS are full of broken promises and dreams, they are keen to kill WM one way or another.
They brought out Visual Studio 2010 and spouted about how you can develop for mobile platforms using Express for free... and didn't mention that not only does Express not include WM in any form, but not even the pro version supports it. (It was even pushed from 2005 standard into 2008 pro only previously).
It's ok, because they promised they'd bring out an SDK...which is..oh nevermind, broken promise. You can't even use it to port your app on to windows phone or try to develop for both...dev friendly or what!
As for the app market...just closing the website...how long before they kill the app store too for WM, you know it will come soon after. They clearly want to push any WM user kicking and screaming on to windows phone, they are trying to do that to the devs too. Imagine if you've developed an app which is on the market for WM, well MS doesn't care anymore.
What form is the transfer to SkyDrive going to take? As of now, there is no support for sms messages/contacts data (oh please don't import them into my hotmail/live account...I never use the contacts there since they were always hacked). Do I have to port them into outlook or something, because for the same reason, I don't want to keep them there either. Let me guess, you will be able to import them into your windows phone 7 device without too many problems using the nice shiny app, and there will be a WM SkyDrive app erm...never (at least from MS). Still you get 20Gb of space which you can access on the move (from a device you don't have...).
For me, I see Windows Phone 7 a bit like Vista, with WM being XP. Yes it has fancy graphics and bells, but if you aren't using the latest hardware, XP does a half-decent job in the mean time.
The plus side, well there isn't much else which MS supply, unless they start to pull SDKs and other files off their sites (I noticed a while back they've removed most of the developer info and videos etc for WM - not just moved, but totally gone).
It's not like they were updating the OS apart from through leaked builds and besides compact .net 3.5 was getting messed up more and more by the poor updates anyway. Oh yeah they promised silverlight and compact .net 4 for wm too at one point, now we know that is a pipe dream. There was talk of keeping WM in some form as a business phone device which would live alongside WP.
Really inspires me to follow them with WP7, as a user and as a dev.
Android is a good option, but I still feel there are too many unknowns with it at the moment, since it is trying to support the latest hardware it is (and needs to) keep up. It's a moving target at the moment and it's not quite landed somewhere. Of course I'll play with it, but pointless investing too deeply in it quite yet, unless you've got spare cash of course.
iOS...it's solid, but it is still due for a big shake up me-thinks (I half expected iOS5 to do that), plus I don't want an iDevice.
@bradgog
Travesty? I think you mean tragedy. ;-)
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
I really do not want to move on from WinMo. I know it's impending, but I really do not like what I see from wp7. Android looks like the better alternative at this point I guess.
Becoming so accustomed to my device with all the programs and tweaks is just going to suck to have to give up. I knew this was coming, but it doesn;t make it any easier. Hell, only 5% of devices even have physical keyboards now. Seems that nothing is tailored for my likes.
It's very a sad news !!
I don't like WP7 and i don't want WP7 !
WM with HCT OEM Apps are a very good solutions....the HD2 is actually a best seller with a lot of possibility...
Just a question.....what about professionnal ? What about the "Windows Embedded Handeld" aka WM6.5.3 ?
The professionnal never want to use this WP7, and Microsoft said after the launch of WP7 that they would to continu a branch of WM for the pro ( WEH).
So what about this ???
Maybe we could contact Microsoft
What on earth are they thinking? surely MyPhone and Marketplace can't take up too much space on |Microsofts Servers!
I have had too move to Android, not liking Windows phone at all even including the Mango 7.5 update.
Mind you i have been through this before with Windows CE, Windows 2000 Profesesional, so it doesnt really come as much of a suprise.
Im still very unhappy though
Guys guys guys ...
Did you not hear MS telling all it's existing and previously most loyal customers to go f&%k themselves when they went down the WP7 route? They're into competing with Nokia and Apple now for children's phones.
We're all gonna have to get used to Android sooner or later. Just a bit sooner than expected for some that's all.
Come on into the Windows Phone pool, water's fine over here!
It's sad that they want to kill their older system so badly.
When I bought a phone a year ago, I chose Windows Mobile over others as it fit my preferences the best. According to the sales data I saw, I wasn't the only one. Last year a lot more people bought a Windows Mobile phone than a Windows Phone one. If it is true, Microsoft's decision strikes me as strange. They still support Windows XP that is two generations behind the current OS, while they refuse to support WM that is WP's direct predecessor.
well, learn about the news yesterday and i went out to find some replacement.... it turn out that google sync is a much better option for contact sync and calendar. But still, i haven't found others online backup services that's good for text messange backup.
still, it's a shock that microsoft turn down support in less than 2 years after discontinue winmo, there are still lots of people on contract with their winmo devices.
It is indeed a travesty!!
I have a car that is 7 years old, can still get parts easily for that?
There’s Apple with their new cloud, well if you think about it we all had part of that before apple ever thought about it in myphone.
I hear they are moving some of our files / pictures etc to Microsofts cloud, then why can’t they make that function like myphone for us???
I am sure they could, but NO they want us to move on to WM7.
Why would we want to move to a service that is SO VERY CLOSED DOWN before we start.
Microsoft will push our share of their market “US” probably over to Adroid!
Shame on you Microsoft, will you listen to loyal folk.
Paul.
P.S. See you all on the other Side maybe.
who cares ?
Microsoft is dead!
Hi there!
I don't usually start posts 'cause reading yours I find what I'm looking for. But since a long time I have a general question for a particular issue. I found people with the same trouble, but the answer is not clear for me.
Let me make an introduction:
I now own a HTC HD with Windows Mobile 6.5. I'm very satisfied with this device and OS because my needs are fully covered. I'm very comfortable with the speed boost from a custom ROM I installed and it does what I need (calls, music, photo, SMSs, GPS). The point is that this device is getting... old. It has 3 years and... well, it has received several hits... :| So I'm thinking that soon I'm going to need another one. And here's the question: which OS? I don't mind if it is Android, WP, iOS, or whatever... But I've got one essential requirement: Outlook. .... I've got about 15 mail accounts I must control, and thousands of data saved over the years saved in my Outlook on my PC. Now I only need ActiveSync to synchronize the contacts, calendar and appointments. Because of that, don't propose using Gmail or similar. I've got tons of data in my PC and lots of accounts. And I don't want/need a continuous data connection because I DON'T NEED IT and, here in Spain, the prices are abusive...
Another application I use a lot is GPS. I'm very happy with my Tomtom (fast, accurate and I update it when I want) and I HATE WIFI-GPS. What I've seen on friends devices made me hate it. I found it very poor accurate. Maybe it has improved... What do you think?
Well, I see Android and iOS devices of my friends and they didn't think Outlook sync can be done with them. Is it true? Can it be done in some way? Must I keep WM6 to do this? I can't believe that an old concern like this (Outlook is even present in Office 2013) can't be done with these modern and powerful devices!!
So that's the question: can I sync Outlook with a OS/device of nowadays? In which? If not, is there any alternative I may choose?
Thank you for your time!
The best for that purpose would be windows phone. It can be done with android/iOS but its way easier and native on windows phone.
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The best for that purpose would be windows phone. It can be done with android/iOS but its way easier and native on windows phone.
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Thank you lars1216 for throwing a bit of light.
I heard someone who said that Windows 8 won't be compatible with Outlook sync... Hope he was wrong!
So Windows Phone... OK.