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o2 xda Orbit II.....AAC Files

Please could someone help or explain.I purchased the orbit II last week,I am still getting used to its power and capabilities.
In the manual it says it can play AAC files.I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
It recognises and plays MP3 files.The aac files are not protected they are ones that I downloaded myself from my own cds.
Also why can I not see photos that I have just taken that are saved to my storage card,in the photo viewer on Touch flo.
Thank you in advance for any help,
Peter

pocketmusic can play aac

Thansk for that,but I was looking to find out what the situation was with the phone rather than get a programme that will do something that the manufacturers are saying the phone should do.
I have noticed that the windows media player does add the tunes to its catalogue but files them under ARTIST "UNKNOWN" (as though the tags arent working).The touch flo or HTC player however doesnt even do this.
Does anybody know of a solution to this other than spending money on a progamme to do something that the phone should do already,
many thanks
Peter15965

It's really wierd. I have the same problem and also had this problem with my previous phone which was an O2 XDA Orbit 1 (i.e. rebranded HTC Artemis).
I'm afraid that I never found a solution that didn't involve third party software. I think the problem is that, although HTC have included the decoder to play AAC and AAC+ files, neither of the built in players seem to be able to read the tags from the m4a container format so, although they can play the contents, they can't incorporate the tracks in a meaningful way into the library (I also saw Windows Media Player putting everything as unknown).
I know it's not what you were hoping to hear, and I'd love for someone to prove me wrong, but right now I think you're stuck with going the third-party route.
If you don't want to spend money then I initially used TCPMP. It doesn't have any library browser built in but I found that by intelligent choice of the directory tree structure I used to store my files (My Music/<Artist>/<Album>/<Tracks>) then I could use the file browser in TCPMP to browse my collection in a fairly convenient manner. I now use Conduits PocketPlayer because that has a fantastic library browser and reads the m4a tags perfectly; the program is pretty resource hungry but for now I'm keeping the faith in the hope that they'll address that at some point in the future (their support is good).
- Julian

Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965

peter15965 said:
Thanks Julian at least I know its a common problem(does 2 handsets constitute common).
I will look into pocketplayer as a solution for the timebeing.I was hoping I wouldnt have to put other apps on that would slow the phone down.
Thanks again
Peter15965
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You're welcome.
In most cases putting other apps on shouldn't slow down the phone. The reason apps can slow down the phone (and/or drain battery) can be because they have a Today plugin which, if not well written or if it needs to keep accessing the network, can slow things down. If an app does have a Today plugin (as PocketPlayer does) then you can often disable it (as you can for PocketPlayer).
The other reason for third party apps to slow down the phone is because Windows Mobile default behaviour when you click the top-right "x" button is to minimise the app (i.e. leave it running in the background) rather than close it down completely. Again, in this case an app that does anything significant when it is running in the background can slow down the phone. Clearly a music player needs to keep running while it is playing music but, once finished, you can make sure it is out of memory completely by selecting Exit from the application's menu.
In short, if you're careful to fully close apps when you don't need them, then you shouldn't slow down your phone at all (except so far as having a music player running in the background, whether built in or third party, will always put a drain on the CPU and make other apps run more slowly while the music is playing).
- Julian

Oops. One big thing I forgot to mention. If you do look at PocketPlayer then don't download the latest version (3.51) from their web site. There is a nasty problem in that build specifically related to playing AAC files on HTC devices that I reported to them and has been fixed in an internal beta for 3.52 which, as the reporter of the bug, I have been given to test. You should email [email protected] and say that you want to use it for AAC on an HTC device and hopefully they (Carrie) will let you try out a beta build with the issue fixed.
The issue by the way is that 3.51 doesn't correctly detect end-of-stream when an AAC track has finished so (a) it doesn't auto-advance to the next track in the playlist because it thinks the current track hasn't finished yet and (b) even worse, if you forget to explicitly turn off your device after you've finished listening then PocketPlayer thinks it is still playing your last track and so the device will not put itself into standby and can drain the battery. The issue is fixed in the latest beta build and as an added bonus it also parses m4a tags natively (in 3.51 you could tag your collection by using an option in PocketPlayer to infer the tags from the filenames used in your folder structure but it now reads the real tags in the latest beta).
There is also one other more obscure problem I'm trying to help them diagnose related to AAC on HTC devices but I've been a bit busy recently so am due to give them some feedback and check status on that today or tomorrow. This may or may not be fixed at this stage, I can probably give more feedback in a couple of days so personally I would hold off until I give you an update. If you definitely want to go ahead with a beta build then I can give you a workaround that works most of the time.
- Julian

Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965

peter15965 said:
Thanks again Julian, a fantastic answer by all accounts.I will hold off until you get an answer back about the problems you mention.
Thanks again for a most comprehensive answer.How will we know when the fix is through?
Peter15965
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I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
- Julian

peter15965 said:
I have downloaded some onto the storage card and the touch flo player hasnt recognised them, nor has the windows media player.
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I found out some interesting thing: Some files are playing correctly but others refuse to work. I think that has to do with the bitrate of the files. All my m4a-files are bought from Apple Music Store. Most times my files are the unprotected ones with higher bitrate, but I have a few files which were protected (unfortunately I must have lost the copy protection somewhere, I'm really sorry for that ). The protected ones were encoded in a lower bitrate. What I found out is, that all my former protected files are played correctly. So maybe Windows Media Player can only handle files up to certain bitrate which obviously should be lower than 256kbps.
Further test: I created a playlist within windows mobile, but the Audio Manager (Touch Flo) wasn't able to read it. I managed that the playlist was recognized by the program, but it couldn't find any files.
So it is possible to play aac files (up to a certain bitrate) and to create playlists in Windows Media Player without any issues (yet). But I couldn't get it working in TouchFlo.
So, ok, I made half the way. Now it's up to you to make it fully functional.

have the same issue, I see the AAC file in the explorer and can play them from there but they are not loaded in the catalogue. anybody any other idea how to make the visible there? is buying pocket player the only solution?
thanks for the help in advance to everybody

JulianL said:
I emailed them this afternoon and got the answer. They've fixed the problem and I'm about to install a new beta to check it's OK. Apparently it was a Windows Mobile bug that they've managed to work around. I'll play with this new update pretty extensively tomorrow so you should get an answer from me in about 24 hours.
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The news isn't as positive as I'd hoped. The latest build has improved the problem (so at least they've identified it and found the right area to make changes) but it hasn't fixed it completely.
The player is still usable with AAC files but there is one glitch. After it's been playing for a while, say about 2 hours, then something seems to get corrupted in the image or via a bug in Windows Mobile itself such that thumbnails of the artwork for the album covers no longer display properly when browsing your music library. With the previous build the device would lock up at this point and require a soft reset so at least they've fixed that problem but there is still some sort of issue unresolved.
The workaround seems to be to just fully exit PocketPlayer every couple of hours and then re-launch it again so it's not too arduous and shouldn't prevent you playing with the trial version (although this partially-fixed beta isn't publicly available so you will need to contact support to see if they'll give it to you and given that it still has a known issue they might just ask you to wait a bit).
I'm obviously still working with them to try and 100% nail this issue.
- Julian

Bluetooth A2DP annoying problem with WMP/TF3D & S2P

Hi all,
I have an O2 stereo BT headset which is 1 year old. I used it with my prophet previously just fine with S2P. No problems when I press play etc.
Since using it on my Touch Pro, when I press play on it, both WMP/tf3d player would play simulatneously. I have to stop s2p. It is annoying to say the least. I would like to continue to use S2P than wmp/tf3d.
How come I'm having this conflict & what to do about it?
Thanks
Posted it here because I thought it may be a general question rather than a problem with S2P.

I have the same problem...
I am having the same problems and from the research it looks like the profile for the blue tooth is set to always call up Window Media. I have been using Mort Player with no issues on an older model S9 motorola stereo headset. Now with the new one no go!!! always calls up Windows Media.
I have tried different media players - looks like there was a version of pocket player 4 that bypassed this issue and cut off Windows media player. Unfortunately it jsut doesn't work for my Touch Pro 6.1 stock rom.
i am thinking if anyone out there can make this fix available it must be the XDA people...
Anyone have suggestions, hack, new profile that can fix this annoying issue??? Please???

i thought no body else had this issue but i'm sure other people have it as well.
thanks for the research. tried looking in the registry for a2dp profiles and wmp, but no luck.

Best Media player for stock fimware

i am currently sitting on stock firmware and dont feel comfortable flashing my phone. I like that i can watch movies and videos on my device but windows media player is really laggy and jumps a lot. what other suggestions do you guys have for media players for 6.1 pro...

coreplayer is not free but its really great. plays divx better than divx player for wm. though it doesnt do tv out very well sadly. but its good enough to watch movies on my phone full framerate.

yea i have been looking at that. I just cant justify spending like 30 bucks for it. Thanks for the suggestion though.

roush611, consider for one moment getting comfortable flashing, it is very fun! I was very hesitant too but now I flash weekly!
On to your question...I wonder if S2P would remedy the issues you would are having? It uses WMP as it's 'engine' but maybe it would solve these issues.

Search for TCMP, free version of Core Player.

well i flashed my g1 and it was cool for a bit but then i could never get it back to stock fimware. So i dont really wanna mess with that again.
I tried to download TCMP but it just crashes everytime i open it... I am kinda at a loss.

You can try Kinoma play free version. It worked wonderfully on mine, and s2p was previously mentioned by someone. Nitrogen is another if the other 2 dont wor for you but kinoma imorts your media library while the other 2 dont.
The free version of kinoma play doesnt let you use the equalizer but it was never a problem for me because htc includeds audio booster with its phones.

You could try Pocket Player http://www.conduits.com/products/player/
I have only used it for podcast and audio myself but I'm very impressed with it. You should be able to download a 30 free trial version.

I've started a thread about this, but Pocket Player is probably the best player out there. However, every app that I've found does one thing really good, and another important thing really poorly. YMMV, though.

Search for "TCPMP Tech1 PRO7 Digital Play HD StandAlone Version.cab". It's really great. It does flash videos better than anything I've tried. I think the forum is everythingdiamond.info, or something like that. Read and follow the setup info.

Best alternative music player.

I like the music player in Sense and I also quite like the look of S2P (although the lack of any treble and bass controls means it's a non-starter for me) but I'm looking for a decent alternative with a good finger-friendly UI. I have tried numerous other media players but hardly any have a suitable interface for non-stylus use. In these I include PocketPlayer and PocketTunes. I tried Nitrogen but for some reason the slightest adjustment on any of the frequencies results in distortion.
Any suggestions?

I'm just up to my neck in suggestions here!

I use on an everyday basis Pocketplayer from conduit. It's very good and full of options: podcast, equalizer, internet radio, media guide. It's not free but it worth it.

I tried that out but it's clearly designed for a stylus. It also didn't look right on 6.5.x and the bottom of it's window sat over the bottom toolbar. I was thinking more along the lines of a music application specific to the HD2 or suitable for WVGA capacitive devices at least.
I was looking at Nemo player on the Android. Something like that would be ideal.

I'd also like a good music player that has an ecxellent equalizer because the audiobooster keeps being buggy

I remember seeing something somewhere about SRS WOW or something like that, i don't know if that's just an equalizer or a media player, some clarification would be nice.

I would strongly recommend SRS WOW as an alternative to Audiobooster. This would allow you to use S2P (or any other stand alone player) and maintain high end equalization.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584626&highlight=srs

Why don't you try the finger-friendly version of TCPMP?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=634951
Worked great when I tried it on the floor model HD2 at T-Mobile.

ClownShoes said:
I would strongly recommend SRS WOW as an alternative to Audiobooster. This would allow you to use S2P (or any other stand alone player) and maintain high end equalization.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584626&highlight=srs
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I don't rate SRS WOW at all, I have used it previously on the HD2 and other Windows Mobile devices in times past. I'm quite an audiophile and, despite tinkering with it for hours, I couldn't get a sound I liked with it, eventually getting one frequency sounding good resulted in other frequencies becoming overpowering or near silent. I also think the 3d effect is ridiculous.

Without any hesitation... Kinoma Play
It's really the best music player. Sound quality is perfect and the interface is absolutely amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYZ-bC20eM
It's a paying soft, but it's worth the price.

arturobandini said:
Without any hesitation... Kinoma Play
It's really the best music player. Sound quality is perfect and the interface is absolutely amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfYZ-bC20eM
It's a paying soft, but it's worth the price.
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How is it's equalizer?

I tried Kinoma Player, it seems to be a jack of all trades master of none to me. It also looks a bit crap and blurry on the HD2 as they have no WVGA skins for it. Not overly impressed and not what I'm looking for.

Pagnell said:
I tried Kinoma Player, it seems to be a jack of all trades master of none to me. It also looks a bit crap and blurry on the HD2 as they have no WVGA skins for it. Not overly impressed and not what I'm looking for.
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This has no sense. You are saying that you are looking for a decent alternative with a good finger-friendly UI.
Obviously Kinoma has probably the most finger-friendly interface of all. You may not love it for some reasons but I'm pretty sure it's better than S2P for instance.
Very difficult to understand what you are looking for exactly. Finally I don(t understand the purpose of your thread. Just test all the audio players available on the market and chose the one you like. It does not deserve a specific thread. That's all mate.

I use Nitrogen

Hi there really interesting post!
I need a good player too, cause 70% of time spent with Hd2 is for play music
but it's difficult to find a serious and stable solution, they seem all to young software..
htc audiomanger
+beautiful and default
-no alphabet scrolling bar,difficult to import playlist without wmp11-12, it search for all mp3 on storage, ringtones too (solved with reg twaek)
Pocket Player
+the best in general,scrolling ,playlist,nowplaying,albumart.. (haven't tryed with 10 gigas jet)
-some bug-now fixed skin on 6.5.x-, i can't open my mediamonkey playlist after sync!!i'm trying to solve but.. damn. and waiting 4.2!
S2p
+overall, best free alternative, good extended options with S2U2, it read mediamonkey imported playlist with no problem
-false now playing list,too laggy interface on hd2..
Nitrogen
+so nice..
-but so young too , no playlist, buggy excution ...
Kinoma Play
+ it seems to have a really good a stable base system
- but music it's only part of too many services, already installed on hd2..
This is my experience, there are also other player but i think the upper are the best. The problem is that i still not have a definitive solution for mp3...
An mp3player must be able to import playlists from pc for me, i have too music and it's unusefull play all the imported tracks toghether..or recreating them manually on device..
Solving sync for PP playlist could be for me the perfect solution, but i 'm not finding ways ..I there someone that can help?
When i sync playlists with media monkey, it transfer playlists written with wrong addresses info. The player read welll all titles but when it try to open a track, PP search for playlist addresses with 'Storage Card\artist\album....' while the imported playlists from MM have just 'artist\album....' written in . Anyone experieced and solve that?

arturobandini said:
This has no sense. You are saying that you are looking for a decent alternative with a good finger-friendly UI.
Obviously Kinoma has probably the most finger-friendly interface of all. You may not love it for some reasons but I'm pretty sure it's better than S2P for instance.
Very difficult to understand what you are looking for exactly. Finally I don(t understand the purpose of your thread. Just test all the audio players available on the market and chose the one you like. It does not deserve a specific thread. That's all mate.
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The purpose of the thread is obvious but I will point it out anyway for your benefit. I was hoping people would make suggestions regarding music players I hadn't used, for example you suggested Kinoma and I tried it out and found it to be wanting. Just because my opinion of it differs from yours it doesn't equate to it making no sense. You said it's interface was 'absolutely amazing'. I disagree with that.
Your comment on this not deserving a specific thread is somewhat unusual given the type of forum this is. Perhaps you would like to specify exactly what subjects deserve to have threads and what doesn't? I'd say this thread is perfectly valid for the reasons pointed out above.

TommyRose said:
Hi there really interesting post!
I need a good player too, cause 70% of time spent with Hd2 is for play music
but it's difficult to find a serious and stable solution, they seem all to young software..
htc audiomanger
+beautiful and default
-no alphabet scrolling bar,difficult to import playlist without wmp11-12, it search for all mp3 on storage, ringtones too (solved with reg twaek)
Pocket Player
+the best in general,scrolling ,playlist,nowplaying,albumart.. (haven't tryed with 10 gigas jet)
-some bug-now fixed skin on 6.5.x-, i can't open my mediamonkey playlist after sync!!i'm trying to solve but.. damn. and waiting 4.2!
S2p
+overall, best free alternative, good extended options with S2U2, it read mediamonkey imported playlist with no problem
-false now playing list,too laggy interface on hd2..
Nitrogen
+so nice..
-but so young too , no playlist, buggy excution ...
Kinoma Play
+ it seems to have a really good a stable base system
- but music it's only part of too many services, already installed on hd2..
This is my experience, there are also other player but i think the upper are the best. The problem is that i still not have a definitive solution for mp3...
An mp3player must be able to import playlists from pc for me, i have too music and it's unusefull play all the imported tracks toghether..or recreating them manually on device..
Solving sync for PP playlist could be for me the perfect solution, but i 'm not finding ways ..I there someone that can help?
When i sync playlists with media monkey, it transfer playlists written with wrong addresses info. The player read welll all titles but when it try to open a track, PP search for playlist addresses with 'Storage Card\artist\album....' while the imported playlists from MM have just 'artist\album....' written in . Anyone experieced and solve that?
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Good post, thanks. I will have to find the reg tweak to stop the Sense music player picking up ringtones.

Hi there, i just open a new thead on managing music on devices
hoping will be useful..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=665484
bye

Bookmarks wanted
TommyRose said:
Hi there really interesting post!
I need a good player too, cause 70% of time spent with Hd2 is for play music
but it's difficult to find a serious and stable solution, they seem all to young software..
htc audiomanger
+beautiful and default
-no alphabet scrolling bar,difficult to import playlist without wmp11-12, it search for all mp3 on storage, ringtones too (solved with reg twaek)
Pocket Player
+the best in general,scrolling ,playlist,nowplaying,albumart.. (haven't tryed with 10 gigas jet)
-some bug-now fixed skin on 6.5.x-, i can't open my mediamonkey playlist after sync!!i'm trying to solve but.. damn. and waiting 4.2!
S2p
+overall, best free alternative, good extended options with S2U2, it read mediamonkey imported playlist with no problem
-false now playing list,too laggy interface on hd2..
Nitrogen
+so nice..
-but so young too , no playlist, buggy excution ...
Kinoma Play
+ it seems to have a really good a stable base system
- but music it's only part of too many services, already installed on hd2..
This is my experience, there are also other player but i think the upper are the best. The problem is that i still not have a definitive solution for mp3...
An mp3player must be able to import playlists from pc for me, i have too music and it's unusefull play all the imported tracks toghether..or recreating them manually on device..
Solving sync for PP playlist could be for me the perfect solution, but i 'm not finding ways ..I there someone that can help?
When i sync playlists with media monkey, it transfer playlists written with wrong addresses info. The player read welll all titles but when it try to open a track, PP search for playlist addresses with 'Storage Card\artist\album....' while the imported playlists from MM have just 'artist\album....' written in . Anyone experieced and solve that?
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What surprises me is that there seems to be no need for Bookmark or a similar function. I know that Pocketplayer has this option. For me that is certainly a must. As for the quality of playback whatever the player it will never be like a stereo set.
The most ideal for me is a mediaplayer what can play all the formats, music, video, photo and E-books. is completely configurable. Has an excellent equalizer and Bookmark function. But like all good things in life, they are not within reach
regards, fred

I find Pocket Player to be the best music player for WM. It was certainly not developed with finger friendliness in mind, but it can certainly be very easily used on the HD2. It has great features and despite some bugs (related to WM 6.5) it is certainly better than S2P (which I believe to be just an iPhone copy - I don't like that).

[Q] Stock mp3 Player reverses song order in Playlists - Ideas?

Hey guys,
I've got an odd problem with samsung stock music player on my note 10.1.
Every playlist I add to the device is (dis)played upside down. At first i suspected isyncr, which i use to sync my Itunes with the note, to be the problem - but it turned out it is not.
I already did the following:
checked the m3u playlist isyncr generates with a text editor - everything fine
cleared data of stock music player
cleared data of "media storage"
created a playlist with a 3rd party player (amazon) => reverse order in samsung player, correct order in poweramp, player pro
created a playlist with samsung player => reverse order in 3rd party players (amazon, poweramp, player pro)
searched the internet and xda
asked samsung support for help - twice
Internet knows a similar problem with samsung fascinate without any solution, here on xda i found an old thread which i suspect describes the same problem on a different device (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404735), but also without a solution or idea.
I can hardly believe there is such a bug in the stock music app and hardly anyone steps into it. I also find it hard to believe that samsung had this bug in Fascinate's music player, fixed it in the Galaxy S2's (which i also own and doesn't have this problem), just to re-integrate it in the Note 10.1.
Samsung support is not able to give any qualified answers and rather tries to force me to use kies (which I even tried, but despite its poor performance cannot help me with this problem). I will, however, try to ask them a 3rd time.
The Problem existed in ICS ROM as well as in Jelly Bean, which arrived about 2 weeks ago (XXBLJ9).
Any Ideas what I could try next?
If you read this and don't know an answer either, you can still help me by verifying the problem on your note 10.1 - just create a playlist with for example amazon mp3 (playlist, not album) and open it with samsung stock music player. Would be great, thanks in advance!
Greetings,
Oliver

Okay...seems like nobody has an idea how to solve this...no problem.
You can, however, also help me by just trying it out, takes about 1 minute of your time...is nobody using the stock music player and any other player?
As Internet isn't full of complaints, i suspect that it could be a configuration specific problem with my note. I am willing to wipe it in that case, but as it is not rooted i've got to restore its current state manually after that - which might take some hours So I just want to make sure that there's a chance that wiping helps me with my problem.
Anyone? Can (or can't) you confirm my problem?
Thanks and Greetings,
Oliver

Same issue on Samsung Droid Charge
OliverB82 said:
Okay...seems like nobody has an idea how to solve this...no problem.
You can, however, also help me by just trying it out, takes about 1 minute of your time...is nobody using the stock music player and any other player?
As Internet isn't full of complaints, i suspect that it could be a configuration specific problem with my note. I am willing to wipe it in that case, but as it is not rooted i've got to restore its current state manually after that - which might take some hours So I just want to make sure that there's a chance that wiping helps me with my problem.
Anyone? Can (or can't) you confirm my problem?
Thanks and Greetings,
Oliver
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Hi,
I have had my Samsung Charge since it came out. That problem has always persisted on my device. I find it extremely frustrating as the point of a smart phone is that it is multiple devices. I would like this to be my main music player as well since it has an external 32gb SD card and so can hold quite a bit of music.
I am not a developer (I do do technical support), just decided I am trying to figure out - AGAIN - why it does this. I just downloaded a trial of PowerAmp. Don't know if this might help you figure out the problem. Power Amp shows my synced playlists from Windows Media Player not as a Playlist but as a music folder under folders. So far I have synced just one playlist as a test. In the folder in powerAmp, it is in the correct order. In the stock music player it is in reversed order.
I paused in typing, and after syncing multiple playlists at one shot, the list in Poweramp is garbled. The first try created a single folder with all the songs from the playlist in correct order. Now with the sync of multiple lists, I do have a couple like above but the rest either didn't come across or the music came across but not the playlist. The stock music player also has just some not all of the playlists I synced. The music is all in reverse order.
To me this suggest that problem is with the implementation of the sync on the device itself, given you have the same issue. My guess is it reads and writes the playlist from bottom up. I think there is also a burrering problem since it never seems to bring all my lists over and if that happens only some of the music.
Hope this helps, would like very much to know if you find a solution. Samsung is close to losing me as a customer over this. I care less about browsing and connectivity and more about multi functionality. A music player that works is important to me, and am considering an HTC or maybe even an IPhone (!!!) next time around just because of this - and my next upgrade is in 60 days. I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS SAMSUNG!!!
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dakatisbak said:
Hi,
I have had my Samsung Charge since it came out. That problem has always persisted on my device. I find it extremely frustrating as the point of a smart phone is that it is multiple devices. I would like this to be my main music player as well since it has an external 32gb SD card and so can hold quite a bit of music.
I am not a developer (I do do technical support), just decided I am trying to figure out - AGAIN - why it does this. I just downloaded a trial of PowerAmp. Don't know if this might help you figure out the problem. Power Amp shows my synced playlists from Windows Media Player not as a Playlist but as a music folder under folders. So far I have synced just one playlist as a test. In the folder in powerAmp, it is in the correct order. In the stock music player it is in reversed order.
I paused in typing, and after syncing multiple playlists at one shot, the list in Poweramp is garbled. The first try created a single folder with all the songs from the playlist in correct order. Now with the sync of multiple lists, I do have a couple like above but the rest either didn't come across or the music came across but not the playlist. The stock music player also has just some not all of the playlists I synced. The music is all in reverse order.
To me this suggest that problem is with the implementation of the sync on the device itself, given you have the same issue. My guess is it reads and writes the playlist from bottom up. I think there is also a burrering problem since it never seems to bring all my lists over and if that happens only some of the music.
Hope this helps, would like very much to know if you find a solution. Samsung is close to losing me as a customer over this. I care less about browsing and connectivity and more about multi functionality. A music player that works is important to me, and am considering an HTC or maybe even an IPhone (!!!) next time around just because of this - and my next upgrade is in 60 days. I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS SAMSUNG!!!
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Hi Oliver,
Just discovered that my Amazon MP3 cloud player has all my playlists I just synced (except one) and the songs are all in the correct order. This is confounding to me as I previously had the same reversed order issue in this player. Not sure if it has anything to do with the fact that I went into the file system dorectly and deleted all the contents from themusic related folders before doing the sync for that one then multiple lists. Not sure what happened with that one list, might be related to the fact that it is a custom CD mix ( old school club music, I need the beats for running!). Am going to try syncing that list as I really like the music that's on it. This would seem to contradict my thinking above though. Seems the issue is with the Samsung stock music itself, not the sync. HTC/Apple here I come...

Galaxy stock mp3 Player
I have Samsung Fascinate and it has the same problem with stock mp3 music player. Songs on playlist are reversed. I also tried a few other players but they are not convenient.
So as previous says we can use Amazon mp3 player and widget. It works good for me. It remembers when I paused and even after reboot. So decided use it. It doesn't interfere with other programs (I use in my car navigation app - Navigon). So its very convenient listen music and have navigation.