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which ROM KITCHEN do you use/like ?

which ROM KITCHEN do you use/like ? post ur reviews/feedback here.

I like Pandora's, seems complete and the ROM is fast. Even without overclocking

I was using Pandoras so I could have the latest and greates WM6 ROM however it proved to be too unstable and most importantly: I couldn't make A2DP work. Anyway I switched back to the previous WM6 .960 and grabbed Core 2.0, chucked it into the Core Pro kitchen and found it to be awesome - the programs just do it - no problems and even less clicks than the other kitchens! Plus it can extract any ROM you like into packages which is the biggest bonus.

I've used Faria's RK, edhaas' RomPacker, and now the Core RK. Overall, I like the Core one the best due to what all it can do. My only complaint with it is that all the scripts assume everything is on your system drive and in the directory Core. I'm going to have to rework all the scripts so it isn't like this, as I will sometimes have multiple kitchens setup as I test various things (and to keep old versions where I can fall back to them but still be in a working kitchen). This isn't an issue with the RomPacker kitchen.

mfrazzz said:
I've used Faria's RK, edhaas' RomPacker, and now the Core RK. Overall, I like the Core one the best due to what all it can do. My only complaint with it is that all the scripts assume everything is on your system drive and in the directory Core. I'm going to have to rework all the scripts so it isn't like this, as I will sometimes have multiple kitchens setup as I test various things (and to keep old versions where I can fall back to them but still be in a working kitchen). This isn't an issue with the RomPacker kitchen.
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I agree with you on this but one thing it did remind me of is that its very good about backing up previous files cooked in the kitchen in the Core kitchen.

nottoosmart said:
I like Pandora's, seems complete and the ROM is fast. Even without overclocking
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ROTFL

anichillus said:
ROTFL
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But surely that's the kitchen you use to produce your ROMs?

neonkoala said:
But surely that's the kitchen you use to produce your ROMs?
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Whaaaat ?

Joking as you have your own kitchen....

I have a tough time choosing between CorePro and Pandora's, simply because I like the option, of being able to check and uncheck the boxes!! LOL. But the corePro kitchen is very advanced, it shaved ~13mbs off of the ROM I cooked in Pandoras.

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I'm probably one of the few who prefers to use Molski's Devpack kitchen. only reason i use it is quite simply because it was the first kitchen i used! that and it was relatively easy to learn (i only really use it to add/remove programs and stuff, nothing exotic). the best bit of it is you just lob the 'nk.nbf' into the source folder, dump and its ready for you. i dont know if the different kitchens like pandora give you this option.

neonkoala said:
Joking as you have your own kitchen....
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Ah...sorry
Yes, that's the kitchen i used, mostly. But i had to repack it so that others can use it...since i had it all spread allover across my HDD ...
I think i forgot to thank 004 cos his kitchen meant the begining of my kitchen.
So : Thank you double_ofour !
duke_stix said:
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I'm probably one of the few who prefers to use Molski's Devpack kitchen. only reason i use it is quite simply because it was the first kitchen i used! that and it was relatively easy to learn (i only really use it to add/remove programs and stuff, nothing exotic). the best bit of it is you just lob the 'nk.nbf' into the source folder, dump and its ready for you. i dont know if the different kitchens like pandora give you this option.
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Mine does !
It is a combination of molski's way of cooking combined with the new stuff that's out there.
I kept both ways of cooking.
badbert said:
I have a tough time choosing between CorePro and Pandora's, simply because I like the option, of being able to check and uncheck the boxes!! LOL. But the corePro kitchen is very advanced, it shaved ~13mbs off of the ROM I cooked in Pandoras.
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You can do that in my kitchen too LOL . I thought i saw a option.xml generator somewhere .... Hmm, dunno where tho ...mabe the Hermes forum

I started to think this thread was heading towards a "popularity contest" like the "best chef" thread...
I'd like to think everyone's goal in this forum is to offer support to other developers and users, and to improve the overall user-experience.
I personally don't care if anyone uses the kitchen I primarily support - which is based on doubleofours adaption of the new mUn rom.
However, if you do want use it, I'll do what I can to help make it work as best as I can. Because in the end, if we all work to fix all the issues, we all end up with an excellent rom - and just the way we each individually want it. Which kitchen isn't the base factor, it's working together as a team.
My goal is to help other users, not to win a contest of "who's the best" or whatever. I build a rom as I would want it, let others try it, and update the kitchen as issues are found. Is it the best way? Who cares? As a group working to debug issues, everyone can benefit.
Maybe someone should start a poll for who's the most supportive in the forum? At least that would reward others by recoginition for support, rather than how many users they can convince to use their stuff. There's no monitary reward here - let's not treat it that way.
So who's is best? I have a "philosophy" on that and it's debate:
Opinions are like a "rectum" (don't like to use profanity in public...).
One individual's may stink/smell nice more than others, but that's only up to the other individuals who smell it.
We're all human, and entitled to opinion. Sometimes its just better to keep it to ourselves.
How about we kill the poll's and get back to developing!

I have experimented with every kitchen thats been released so far. I still like the old school methods of rom cooking though.

mattk_r said:
I started to think this thread was heading towards a "popularity contest" like the "best chef" thread...
I'd like to think everyone's goal in this forum is to offer support to other developers and users, and to improve the overall user-experience.
I personally don't care if anyone uses the kitchen I primarily support - which is based on doubleofours adaption of the new mUn rom.
However, if you do want use it, I'll do what I can to help make it work as best as I can. Because in the end, if we all work to fix all the issues, we all end up with an excellent rom - and just the way we each individually want it. Which kitchen isn't the base factor, it's working together as a team.
My goal is to help other users, not to win a contest of "who's the best" or whatever. I build a rom as I would want it, let others try it, and update the kitchen as issues are found. Is it the best way? Who cares? As a group working to debug issues, everyone can benefit.
Maybe someone should start a poll for who's the most supportive in the forum? At least that would reward others by recoginition for support, rather than how many users they can convince to use their stuff. There's no monitary reward here - let's not treat it that way.
So who's is best? I have a "philosophy" on that and it's debate:
Opinions are like a "rectum" (don't like to use profanity in public...).
One individual's may stink/smell nice more than others, but that's only up to the other individuals who smell it.
We're all human, and entitled to opinion. Sometimes its just better to keep it to ourselves.
How about we kill the poll's and get back to developing!
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I agree with you, that's why i decided to have some fun. I however think some of your message was addressed to me. I don't want to win an popularity contest and i think the number of posts and if you read them all you'll see that i always tryed to help others...even when the question was asked 100000 times before.
I started to hate polls...just because the fact that i know how much i worked on every release that i made, and how big support i gave every time and i don't say that others didn't do it, cos i am sure that they did ...but i don't like to get my hard work in any stupid contest.
All messages written above by me had a bitter sweet sarcasm in them.
You can't imagine how i feel untill you do it yourselves. It is really degrading to see that after over 3000 downloads with previous roms and another 500 with this kitchen(for the wizard only) i released...which i surely consider the only FULL kitchen there is out there except Scoter Kitchen , people making my hard work into some stupid contest.
I did it for all not for just a few, and i didn't made any test on who's the best one to have my rom.
You're right, this is democracy but it's wrongfully understood. Why ? Because i asked soooo many time for suggestions with my every release and i took notice of them all but people still not satisfyed. I asked : what do you think it's missing from my kitchen ...no responses...what should i think ? That is perfect the way it is or that people just don't care and only start stupid threads so they can use the "best" rom , the "best" kitchen..and so on.
Mabe it's just me...but i don't want to spend so many hours in front of my pc so that some people trash my work as they think.
I am so fed up with this that you can't even imagine.
just my 2 cents and i forbid using my kitchen, roms or even my nickname in any stupid contest!

Well said my friend. May the polls be dammed!
Edit: Oh, forgot to mention that no direct negativity intended - more so at the whole idea of "who's got the best ...". I can see where it could look that way - my apologies. Venting after long weekend of sleeping in till 11, drinking till 3, kicking back by the ocean... and thinking of what I could be doing if I only had my computer...

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nottoosmart said:
I like Pandora's, seems complete and the ROM is fast. Even without overclocking
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Is Pandora's what you used to build your "MyOS" with?

MaciejN said:
Is Pandora's what you used to build your "MyOS" with?
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Correct, but the contents are from all over the Wizard forum.

Why all these new WM6 ROMs?

I am a bit surprised that so many new WM6 ROMs are appearing on this board. The majority just appear to have been created using the Pandora kitchen.
The Pandora kitchen is so incredibly easy to use so why not just create your own ROM. We all have different requirements so no downloaded ROM is likely to suit anyone other than its originator.
The current Pandora kitchen is IMHO close to perfect. Cook your own it really is easy.
Provided you only flash the OS and nothing else you are no more likely to "brick" your Wizard than if you flash one of the preprepared ROMs - perhaps even less likely.

Dude, not all ppl have the patience, the knowledge (to edit files, edit/delete hex strings), and probably neither the courage to flash their own device for uncountable times in order to make something that will suit their needs.
I am not trying to tell you that I've got balls and super-knowledge to do that and someone else doesn't. The Pandora's Box is awesome, so is the Core Pro Kitchen also. But If it was THAT easy, MS would have also released a kitchen for every user to cook their ROM.

Im afraid I must agree with scotch whisky.
It reminds me of all these "WINXP UTILITIES AIO 2007 XP GOLD" packages that you often see.
I moderate a few boards and I do remove such things, Its not to say that what is being produced here isnt worthy of recognition, but I think it is certainly an idea to thin it a little.
For example lock the topic as soon as it is created and then have simply 1 well moderated thread for bug reports.
(And for gods sake can someone please shoot the noobs that feel they must post useless cr*p in every thread i.e "plzz sum1 [email protected] WM6 4 my PSP!!! PLZZZ!!!)
Just my 2ct...

Whiterat said:
Im afraid I must agree with scotch whisky.
(And for gods sake can someone please shoot the noobs that feel they must post useless cr*p in every thread i.e "plzz sum1 [email protected] WM6 4 my PSP!!! PLZZZ!!!)
Just my 2ct...
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i like idea of wm06 for PSP ( screen calibration specifically ).
rofl.

Yep, I sort of agree... I'm about to work on the next release of XM6, but it basically is just going to be from the excellent Pandora Kitchen and packages, so was starting to question even releasing it (I may do some customizations to things, but really not sure). There are so many slight variations with minimal "custom" changes (other than splash screens) that pretty much any of these can be built by about anyone with minimal work (or thats the way it appears).
Faria and Doubleofour opened the cooking floodgates with their easy to use Kitchens. The Core and Pandora kitchens have just increased the proliferation.
mattk_r's work on providing a "Complete" solution (kitchen, excellent base rom, and tons of oem packages, and even cleaning up MMS and all and giving multiple versions) makes Cooking like a Instant Dinner. Just add the premade ingredients that you want, mix, and bake... Presto, your "perfect" rom just for you...

mfrazzz said:
...so was starting to question even releasing it...
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While the shear quantity of ROM's is, perhaps, unneeded, I for one sure hope you release the next version of XM6! Part of the internet community's ideals is reuse. I surely appreciate mfrazzz's (and the others' he built on!) ROMs.

mfrazzz said:
Yep, I sort of agree... I'm about to work on the next release of XM6, but it basically is just going to be from the excellent Pandora Kitchen and packages
mattk_r's work on providing a "Complete" solution (kitchen, excellent base rom, and tons of oem packages, and even cleaning up MMS and all and giving multiple versions) makes Cooking like a Instant Dinner. Just add the premade ingredients that you want, mix, and bake... Presto, your "perfect" rom just for you...
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Couple of things. First, MFrazz, your Crossbow Reloaded ROM is fricken awesome. What was the reason to change from Faria to Pandora? I'm not asking sarcastically...since I am new to all this I am really curious and I'm wondering if I should drop your previously made Crossbow to go with XM6 (or XM6-Reloaded or whatever you plan to call your next version).
Also, where can I get Mattk_r's "complete" solution with the base ROM and all the OEM packages? I would love to see what I'm capable of doing if I had all the right tools and packages available. I have a little bit of creative talent inside me. Yeah, I guess I could just ask Matt...or he could respond...so whoever knows the answer, that would be cool. Matt posts too much (and is a huge help!) to just do a search on his name.
Thanks!!

I once tried every new rom. But then i stopped flashing - because every rom only have minor changes and some have programs instlled i never use.
I think it was hard work for the first released WM6 ported by faria and mun - which were made very clean by e.g. anichillus (and many more....)
But now - afetr this great kitchens were released - cooking is very simple. So it is not really nessecary to release every new liitle step of a rom.
I stop for it - and started USING my device.
BTW - i have a herald now. But still read some of the wizard forum stuff - but it is getting more and more a "fight" - who got the NEWEST files and the BEST looking - it´s more a pimp contest then a developers forum.
Like other say: Just my 2 cent
lol

Interesting views and opinions. A while back when I first joined the forum, I tested a few roms (Xplore 1.0/1.1, MBE and Love) and quickly jumped onto Faria's/Scooters/Doubleofours kitchens to figure out how to build my own. It became apparent that it needed some "simplicity" and consolidation.
I still like the idea of roms being build and developed by cooks. This way the non-technical users can try them out and give honest feedback, without having to go through the kitchen learning curve. It's hard enough just to keep from bricking your hardware for the newbie.
User feedback can help drive improvements to the base packages and ultamately back to the kitchen - and other builders will benefit as well.
The kitchen I post is a collection of everyone elses work. I simply try to keep it updated with the great improvements that collect amongst all the different threads. I don't take / want credit for what's there - I didn't make it - I just try to make it easier

Ya i would say that there is way to many rom going around that just as too much the same!! I have my own base and i just run off that!!! No need to chnage and chnage from one to another!! I was going to release mine but then i thought that i would not be able to put up with poeple moaning so i have not! It is built how i likw it and that is that!

So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)

This is a simple question to answer.
Some people don't have the time to learn to cook a rom, such as me. I just like flashing couple times here and there specific roms that match my preference. Rom cookers are nice to share their stuff with the community and this helps fix current bugs and everyone learns something new with the bugs. I don't mind the experimenting.
You got all the random people complaining about how this rom needs this app or this rom should remove this. With different roms shared, one of the roms should be close to what they need.
Right now, the pandora 3.2 VC version is fitting my needs and experimenting with the different roms, this is the one I like the most.

ExploreMN said:
So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)
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I would say to you, ya go for it make your own rom how you like it!!! There is so much help on here that you will always be able to do it!!!
Try faria's kitchen
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8 Button Commanger
I have different packages aswell that i have not shared on here so if you need something let me know!

ExploreMN said:
So Matt, I was looking at the thread in your signature link listed as "kitchen thread" and it looks like it doesn't work for T-mobile, is that correct? (T-mobile is always listed as "coming soon")
So for a guy like me...T-mobile user...heavy interest in business use and e-mail use (so Office and messenging are required...other toys are just fun fluff) what is the best kitchen to use for making my own ROM?
Or do you think of novice newbie like me should just stick with other people's ROMs? (Be honest...if its too hard to do...I'll screw up my phone in a heartbeat)
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the tmobile reference is only for the extended rom. you would have the same result if you cooked your rom and ran the cabs afterwards. I'm adding the tmo ext roms just for those cookers that would like to "automate" the installation of said cabs, but aren't ready to make their own - it's easy but one more learning curve to hurtle.
For example, I cook my combo, click the "enable extended rom" box, and build the rom. Since my extended rom has already been flashed, I don't have to add it every time to the nb2nbf_wizard. When the phone flashes, it goes to the extended rom and runs my WAP cabs. Saves me a couple extra steps, since I flash so damn much.

scotch, Ive been saying the same thing since The kitchens appeared. The real releases should be only Build number changes. Unless the builds change, why cant people just use the kitchen, put in what they want and call it a day

ExploreMN said:
Couple of things. First, MFrazz, your Crossbow Reloaded ROM is fricken awesome. What was the reason to change from Faria to Pandora? I'm not asking sarcastically...since I am new to all this I am really curious and I'm wondering if I should drop your previously made Crossbow to go with XM6 (or XM6-Reloaded or whatever you plan to call your next version).
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Yes, Crossbow Reloaded was based off of the Faria "the real thing" ROM kitchen. I only moved away from that base for XM6 because the Ingenetics rom came out which is a newer base (but didn't have some of the newest updates since it was built when that rom first was released). Personally, the Ingenetics rom seems more stable, quicker, and easier on battery, so I felt it was the next best direction to go (but since the base was different, I renamed it so it wouldn't confuse people as it is different than the Crossbow Reloaded series). If I get time, I may go back and revisit Crossbow Reloaded again (as I liked those roms too). Maybe look at melding the two back together (but they are pretty close already other than the base, and I see the Pandora / Ingenetics rom kitchen helping me do that, thus the direction the next release of XM6.

theres so many new roms because cooking is popular now...People never like the roms that are out so they think they could make a better one they way they like it..so they do..I've done the same thing not to many roms fit my needs..i need something clean but with everything still so i created my own rom and I'm Very happy with it right now so I released I must of made atleast 100 different roms before the release..so if someone sees your rom and it meets there needs thats good for having so many roms..

WizeMan said:
Dude, not all ppl have the patience, the knowledge (to edit files, edit/delete hex strings), and probably neither the courage to flash their own device for uncountable times in order to make something that will suit their needs.
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I think this says it all. With the Pandora kitchen you don't edit files or edit/delete hex strings.
You just select what you need and press the button. It takes no more than 10 minutes to cook a ROM including flashing.
You need close to zero knowledge of computing to do it.

I actually want to cook my own rom but maybe I made it harder than it needs to be. For one thing, are all of the packages available in a thread or do the cookers go hunting for packages? As an example, all the programs I want are included in Crossbow Reloaded, but I don't want all of them (and maybe I want to add a couple more but that's not as important). Now, are all of these packages readily available to add to the ROM?
I was also unclear on why sometimes ROM cookers talked about compressing some components. Like, I remember mfrazz would say that he was removing compression on a couple of htings when the dialpad started disappearing on ROMS.

abasu2003 said:
I actually want to cook my own rom but maybe I made it harder than it needs to be. For one thing, are all of the packages available in a thread or do the cookers go hunting for packages? As an example, all the programs I want are included in Crossbow Reloaded, but I don't want all of them (and maybe I want to add a couple more but that's not as important). Now, are all of these packages readily available to add to the ROM?
I was also unclear on why sometimes ROM cookers talked about compressing some components. Like, I remember mfrazz would say that he was removing compression on a couple of htings when the dialpad started disappearing on ROMS.
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I think what is needed here is for someone (Matt!) to write a simple user guide to using the Pandora kitchen. It is obvious from this thread that many people believe that using the kitchen is far more complicated than it actually is.
Matt and others are the experts here. They have made the kitchen incredibly easy to use but do not appear to have got this fact over to a minority (or is that majority) of users.
A simple user guide avoiding all technical terms is required. Anyone who can flash one of the pre-prepared ROMs has more than enough knowledge to use the kitchen.
Matt- It I didn't say before -Great Kitchen

Thanks...

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I just got my new TyTn today, so I started browsing the Hermes forum and grabbed a base OS to start playing with. I wasn't overly pleased with what i was seeing. Pride and ego seem to be the prevailant theme, and I hope it never infects this group.
It reminded me that I want to thank everyone for being excellent contributers. I've found nearly everyone curtious and very helpful . On a scale of 1 to 10, I rank this forum as a 9+. I can't say the same for others
I'll still maintain the Kitchen thread, though I'll have to rely on input for the OS improvements since I won't have any hardware to flash. Hopefully it's nearly done. If there's a big issue, feel free to PM me if an needed.
*sigh* Is a faster phone worth it? Damn, I hope so...

Are you keeping your wizard? I did and tradee off every day.

Already have a buyer - gotta offset the cost of the new toy

Hey Matt, thanks for all of your hard work on the ROMS and kitchens and good luck with the new phone.

mattk_r said:
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I just got my new TyTn today, so I started browsing the Hermes forum and grabbed a base OS to start playing with. I wasn't overly pleased with what i was seeing. Pride and ego seem to be the prevailant theme, and I hope it never infects this group.
It reminded me that I want to thank everyone for being excellent contributers. I've found nearly everyone curtious and very helpful . On a scale of 1 to 10, I rank this forum as a 9+. I can't say the same for others
I'll still maintain the Kitchen thread, though I'll have to rely on input for the OS improvements since I won't have any hardware to flash. Hopefully it's nearly done. If there's a big issue, feel free to PM me if an needed.
*sigh* Is a faster phone worth it? Damn, I hope so...
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Regarding the Hermes forum...i think that as long as you don't ask any questions at all, and know a little bit of this and that...it could be pretty funny...in a sick sadistic way
Considering you own a hermes now...maybe you want to take a look at my Hermes kitchen and suggest a few changes .. considering i don't have one...and some people reported errors...some didn't so i wouldn't know what's wrong or how to improve it.

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Already have a buyer - gotta offset the cost of the new toy
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That wizard of you must of worth a fortune... like a Stradivarius violin
It`s the device that made the superb kitchen possible and solved us endless bugs...
It should of been sold as chef mattk`s device not like just another wizard.
Thank You for your contribution, i am amazed how much work you did.
YOU did bring us closer, because you shared everything you made this forum so much better.
Thank You again!

My next phone is the Athena.

anichillus said:
Regarding the Hermes forum...i think that as long as you don't ask any questions at all, and know a little bit of this and that...it could be pretty funny...in a sick sadistic way
Considering you own a hermes now...maybe you want to take a look at my Hermes kitchen and suggest a few changes .. considering i don't have one...and some people reported errors...some didn't so i wouldn't know what's wrong or how to improve it.
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I'd be happy to do so. Is it like the Core kitchen?

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I'd be happy to do so. Is it like the Core kitchen?
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It is the Core kitchen adapted for the Hermes...a little step more advanced.
The latest is the Artemis Core Kitchen..which is the more advanced(couple of bug fixed and some remakes)...and i will have to make one that will work for all (well..not all but most....you know what i mean).
BTW...you're lucky ...i want a hermes too
Have fun with your new toy

i flashed a hermes for a buddy yesteday and must say the process was alot longer but not all that difficult. there are some nice roms out for the hermes, but i agree that forums there are almost worse than what they were here last year when some of the wizard chefs were leaving

Ditto on thanks for all your hard work and patience with people. I also have a Hermes so will see you on the other side...

I agree, it's WAS bit more of a process. BUT - I already have it to where there's LESS steps to cook and flash a Hermes than the way the bepe based kitchens do And it's only my first few hours playing

Congrats on the new phone, matt. Sorry to lose a good cook.. Thanks for all the help... Still see you around though as I browse all forums to see all the gadgets here...

Hey Matt, thank you for all the hard work and personal time you spent to bring good ROM's and kitchens here. I have been using Pandora v3.2 since 6/22 and haven't had a need need or much of a desire to flash another ROM.
Enjoy your new toy.

Sorry to see you go...
Congratulations on the new Hermes. Thanks for all you have done to this part of the forum. Good luck cooking for those lucky Hermes people who now have a great person with them!

Hey Matt....sorry to see you go also
I switch to at&t a month a go and I've been using my Blackjack. I didn't think I was gonna like it but its working out really well. WM5 , Quick and reliable though .
My next device is that Kaiser...I initially wanted the Tytn but decided to wait.
I'm selling my device cuz I'm a flash junky.
Thanks for the ROMz and hard work.
You've been great to deal with .... see ya around the forum.

Thanks Matt
Man,
Now I have to get a Hermes.
Anyways thanks for all the great input and help. But please do stop by once in a while to check up on things.

Ranger666 said:
Man,
Now I have to get a Hermes.
Anyways thanks for all the great input and help. But please do stop by once in a while to check up on things.
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ya please do...you have done so much for us here and me also...you basically held my hand as i recently coocked my first rom...i feel so accomplished lol...but thanks alot really...

Dude, congrats for your new toy, I think I'll follow (I have phone upgrade from my provider next month)

Ranger666 said:
Man,
Now I have to get a Hermes.
Anyways thanks for all the great input and help. But please do stop by once in a while to check up on things.
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I'll second this. I didn't want to get a Hermes, was going to wait for one of the new HTC Models, but who on earth wants a perfect phone.
Thanks again Matt
Regards
Tony

The future of this forum

Things have been so quiet lately, that I thought I'd just put up something so people have something to read! The usual suspects that hang around have been missing for a while. Haven't heard from Phil in months. Nitro is about to leave. And Vjgrace never promised to be around for too long. I think we're in a long, lonely stretch here, fellas!

I think we 'Tornado'ian are a 'dying' breed. ROM flashing dont excite many people anymore after
vjgrace's almost perfect v3.7 release. Hopefully Nitro can bring us some excitement with his next release. But I bet the excitement will be short-lived.
I for one would like a change to the mundane Tornado Homescreen. On the horizon there is PointUI (www. PointUI.com). But it is far from perfect. Gregory's HTC Home cracked was ok but lacked user customization. Maybe Homescreen design competition!
Well, what do we do to bring some excitement to the Tornado? Wait for WM7 ROM cooking? Linuz? or port the Android?
The answers are within us.
Post ideas here.

Don't worry, my friends. There is a "dynamic equilibrium" in this forum; some people leave, new people come. Andot came when Phil left, EA came when Andot left, etc. There will always be someone to improve our ROMs or just provide support. Don't forget that there are many people here who don't cook but are here for us when we have a problem (DSF, karhoe, you bipinsen and illi, and many more).
So, there's nothing to worry about. This forum has many good members to carry on our ...legacy!

I just started playing with my TMO SDA (Tornado) on Sunday night. Flashed a NitroGenius WM6 for the first time.
However, making my own ROMs is fun so I already started the process. I ported 5.2.1711 Build 18165.0.5.0 from the TMO Shadow ROM dump posted in another forum (OS only). I will make a vanilla kitchen out of it if anyone is interested... well, even if nobody is interested I'll make a kitchen of it anyway because it's fun to do!
Weird that there is a 5.2.1616 18165.0.5.0, it must be some kind of hybrid because each Microsoft build number is associated with only a specific version, 18165 goes with 1711.

See, there will always be someone to continue the Tornado WM6 ROM project.
Nice work, GnatGoSplat. You have a pm.
I also plan to release a kitchen as soon as I create the option.xml files for BuildOS. Maybe we can cooperate on this.

You have PM! I won't have much time to work on my kitchen until things calm down at my workplace, but I'll send you the XIP tonight and you should be able to get 5.2.1711 available to the public very soon!
With as many HTC devices as I own, the Tornado is one of my favorites, it's so slim and compact, but it has Wifi! I will probably be around here for some time.

GnatGoSplat said:
With as many HTC devices as I own, the Tornado is one of my favorites, it's so slim and compact, but it has Wifi! I will probably be around here for some time.
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Welcome to the forum GnatGoSplat! Nice to have you here.

NiTroGenious AFAIK you expect Shark's new build rom, he said it wouldn't be ready in january...
on subj i can say that there will be some progress soon, cause microsoft promised wm 6.1 in 1Q2008, for sure it will be possible to port it for our old friends

GnatGoSplat said:
I just started playing with my TMO SDA (Tornado) on Sunday night. Flashed a NitroGenius WM6 for the first time.
However, making my own ROMs is fun so I already started the process. I ported 5.2.1711 Build 18165.0.5.0 from the TMO Shadow ROM dump posted in another forum (OS only). I will make a vanilla kitchen out of it if anyone is interested... well, even if nobody is interested I'll make a kitchen of it anyway because it's fun to do!
Weird that there is a 5.2.1616 18165.0.5.0, it must be some kind of hybrid because each Microsoft build number is associated with only a specific version, 18165 goes with 1711.
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Glad to have you around GnatGoSplat. WELCOME!
The excitement continues... I am looking forward to a vanilla version
@Nitro - hardly an hour of your posting, here comes someone along to "continue the legacy..."

illi said:
ROM flashing dont excite many people anymore after vjgrace's almost perfect v3.7 release.
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i guess you are right. why would one flash another rom when the existing ones (e.g. vjgrace, NiTroGenious) are that good? i think when MS releases something new some people might start again, bringing this alive on the tornado.
but for the time being...

I like Flashing
I just can't keep re-installing my phone all the time
I do need it for actual phone calls every once in awhile

rom kitshen
im a noob and i realy mean noob i realy dont no´how to make a ro and i now i have asked many times but bad answers and i need a good techer from the begining and if you now a video or webbsite that lern that sings so please show or learn me
and if you now a rpogram that´will be good

Thanks NiTroGenious... unfortunately i've lost my ultra-mega-passion for WM (limited time, univ, etc)
But, as you've said "some people leave, new people come" and some of them remain in "background"..
Wish you a great time with the military service! Good luck
We wait you back, you're the man .

End of my work ?

Hi everyone,
Some news about my work : i stop creating roms.
My reasons : for some time, i try to integrate the new sys 19593 and 19700, without success, each time the phone freeze at boot.
I am tired, i tried several and several solutions, but no success. I stop my research, except if somebody can help me.
I sought too a long time, it is finished, no more motivation.
You have very good roms here : like Mona Lisa !
Bye.

fireburned said:
Hi everyone,
Some news about my work : i stop creating roms.
My reasons : for some time, i try to integrate the new sys 19593 and 19700, without success, each time the phone freeze at boot.
I am tired, i tried several and several solutions, but no success. I stop my research, except if somebody can help me.
I sought too a long time, it is finished, no more motivation.
You have very good roms here : like Mona Lisa !
Bye.
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Hey Fireburned! what are you talking man! keep it up! we all are with you. pl dont get frustrated.
You know u are one of most valuable and knowledgeable person here. we all respect and love u a lot.
See in my sense, you have produced best ROMs for VOX.

I Can only repeat this! dont leaf us! all the vox users need you! may you can try to work with dr martin gonzo an fr_hottelman!
creating an ultimate rom!
this would be sooo great!!!!!!
please have a second thought on it!
we all dont wanna loose you!!!!

fireburned said:
Hi everyone,
Some news about my work : i stop creating roms.
My reasons : for some time, i try to integrate the new sys 19593 and 19700, without success, each time the phone freeze at boot.
I am tired, i tried several and several solutions, but no success. I stop my research, except if somebody can help me.
I sought too a long time, it is finished, no more motivation.
You have very good roms here : like Mona Lisa !
Bye.
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Oh no man you cannot give up. I hope Dr. Gonzo or someone else might be able to help you out.

Nonsense
Hi from Czech republic,
Im using your ROM on my VOX. Its more quicker and stable than original. Thx a lot. Keep up your work because no one else will. Im checking this forum every day for news.

fireburned said:
Hi everyone,
Some news about my work : i stop creating roms.
My reasons : for some time, i try to integrate the new sys 19593 and 19700, without success, each time the phone freeze at boot.
I am tired, i tried several and several solutions, but no success. I stop my research, except if somebody can help me.
I sought too a long time, it is finished, no more motivation.
You have very good roms here : like Mona Lisa !
Bye.
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We need you man. dont leave us!!!

Hang in there friend,
I can't offer you help solving problems, but I will offer you moral support an encouragement along with the other vox users on this forum.
I have always enjoyed using your roms.
Best Wishes in whatever decision you make.

don't stop work
this rom is the best
thank

O_O
Meerkats said:
Hang in there friend,
I can't offer you help solving problems, but I will offer you moral support an encouragement along with the other vox users on this forum.
I have always enjoyed using your roms.
Best Wishes in whatever decision you make.
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Quote...I think your roms were the absolutely a step ahead in terms of productivity...I also think that 19700 is not fastest than other XIP but it gives that good impression mainly because they have accellerated the scrolling...nothing more..
I was waiting for a NEO ULTIMATE version maybe with NEO WORKING in WM 6.1 and maybe with the Boot UP screen from MONA LISA (NOT the 19700 one) tha one with percentage which I think is beautiful to see and also quick in booting on the phone.
Whatever you'll decide I'm sure you know you have done a GREAT contribution to us, vox users, and also to XDA community.

hey man.. sad to hear.... i beleive that it is just because you are tired.. you wont give up? right????
Anyway thnx for your roms [i use it ]
and i found this phrase in some SYS porting Guide.. lol
Info: In some cases you will need to copy WinCENLS_WWE folder to SYS folder (if not present in Donor's SYS) from your original ElfIn SYS otherwise your device will not boot
Link:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/htc-touch-touch-dual/109913-xip-sys-porting-guide.html
I dont have any idea about it.. but thought it might be helpfull!
Edit: it is already here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379598

Too bad!! I'm using your ROM with much satisfaction!!!

Fireburned, it has been an honor to chat with you and use your roms. I have enjoyed upgrading and it was because of you that I have enjoyed this phone so much. What you have done on here has been absolutely impressive and you will be missed by a great many of us. Thank you so very much for all of your hard work and time spent on the many projects you have contributed to all of us. Would hate to see such a giving person leave, but can understand totally the "I'm tired" aspect of it. Perhaps a vacation away from the software side for a little while, might be in order. Whatever you decide, I wish you all the best and do hope you keep in touch with us, whether creating or not. Take care my friend!

TheBo said:
Quote...I think your roms were the absolutely a step ahead in terms of productivity...I also think that 19700 is not fastest than other XIP but it gives that good impression mainly because they have accellerated the scrolling...nothing more..
I was waiting for a NEO ULTIMATE version maybe with NEO WORKING in WM 6.1 and maybe with the Boot UP screen from MONA LISA (NOT the 19700 one) tha one with percentage which I think is beautiful to see and also quick in booting on the phone.
Whatever you'll decide I'm sure you know you have done a GREAT contribution to us, vox users, and also to XDA community.
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Well I have installed 19700 from Dr. Gonzo yesterday dont tell me it is not fast. It has a huge difference. I hope fireburned gets a solution.

Fireburned, I feel sorry for you. Frustrations indeed come from failures but remember that failures are the pillars of success. I think other cookers will be able to help you once they hear about your frustration. Rather we would like to invite Dr Gonzo, Hikey, Frauhottelmann and all other cookers to this thread to help you out. Anyway the final decision is yours. And finally many thanks to you for your invaluable ROMS which made our equipment a prized possession. Will wait for you to cook better next time.
Thanks

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Well I have installed 19700 from Dr. Gonzo yesterday dont tell me it is not fast. It has a huge difference. I hope fireburned gets a solution.
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Well entering and going out from folders\subfolders....Windows folder acces time and other things SEEMS TO ME the same as other quick roms out here....i repeat IMHO only scrolling as been improved...surely scrolling fasters helps in usability...no doubt on this...

TheBo said:
Well entering and going out from folders\subfolders....Windows folder acces time and other things SEEMS TO ME the same as other quick roms out here....i repeat IMHO only scrolling as been improved...surely scrolling fasters helps in usability...no doubt on this...
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Well, as far as I am concerned for entering and in folders and other operations are also faster but obviously a Xip update does not update your processor

We All Are With You
Using NEO tell you "It puts a life in VOX"
I dont know much about cooking rom but the thing you made is excellent.
you are Genius !
And Genius Never Surrenders,they never put their weapons against Failures !!!
WE ALL ARE WITH YOU !!!

love using your rom, great piece of work, gl whatever you decide

Fortune favors the brave.
Virgil (70 BC - 19 BC), Aeneid

fireburned,
i moved to your WM 6.1 clean ROM from Dr's Monalisa 19700 ROM and i found yours to be more cleaner and more better base to add-in the big apps/games.
Dr. MG Started it all of the best Vox WM 6.x ROM's and you have upped the ante; we all suggest you NOT TO GIVE UP.
Best Regards,
Chandan