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Hey everyone, I'm posting this to gather information about Android Multitasking.
I have used android since i had my G1, I am now on a g2, otherwise known as the HTC HERO.
In my opinion android multitasks beautifully when we talk about speed! It doesn't however manage it's open applications well at all. I mean switching to a application which is open in the background is tough. Pressing and holding the home button gives you a menu to RECENTLY open applications which doesn't conform to what IS open at that very moment. And the task bar notifications dont really give you a full list of all applications open..only apps that support it.
With the iphone really gathering it's bearings, and beginning to multitask [kinda better multitasking management then android imo] Im beginning to waver in my support for android.
I can imagine if holding the home button brought up a card view like webOS, giving you a preview of all the open applications in the background. Or something similar. I mean if HTC sense has a pinch gesture to view home screen in a hard view environment, i don't see what's stopping android from having a more polished and robust multitasking experience.
What are your thoughts on this?
the iphone 4 implementation looks to be exactly what you are complaining about with android. it offers a list of recently used apps. with iphone none of the apps stay running, they have background services that an app can start but the app will close. Android is similar. the ui for an app isnt necessarily running. it will be killed by the os and started again when you ask to see it.
WebOS does actually show you exactly what is running. I havent used a webos device for an extended period of time, but it dies seem their card metaphor is the easiest to understand for users. if your phone is slow just look at the cards you have open and flick some out.
I agree with your point though, i find the android app switcher inadequate. Far too often the app i want to get back to is no longer in the list. i think the iphone will have the same issue unless their list can grow very long.
It'd solve a lot if the android switcher had a button to pull up the app drawer.
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hexix said:
the iphone 4 implementation looks to be exactly what you are complaining about with android. it offers a list of recently used apps. with iphone none of the apps stay running, they have background services that an app can start but the app will close. Android is similar. the ui for an app isnt necessarily running. it will be killed by the os and started again when you ask to see it.
WebOS does actually show you exactly what is running. I havent used a webos device for an extended period of time, but it dies seem their card metaphor is the easiest to understand for users. if your phone is slow just look at the cards you have open and flick some out.
I agree with your point though, i find the android app switcher inadequate. Far too often the app i want to get back to is no longer in the list. i think the iphone will have the same issue unless their list can grow very long.
It'd solve a lot if the android switcher had a button to pull up the app drawer.
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Yeah I suppose you're right, but i cant help but think the iphone will just be better at it then android.
Other then that. Yes Android really needs to polish it's multi tasking system.
EDIT: Also, I have used WebOS and honestly it's a superior mobile platform to android [imo]. It's community however is not as enriched as the android one and there aren't as many apps available for the palm pre. Palm really screwed themselves over limiting it to one phone...it would have been a strategic move to stop manufacturing phones and start working on EXPENSIVE palm software like webOS
Or maybe you can try AppSwipe!
There's also a nice app (imo) from a user on here, he tried to mimic the webOS cards system, and is doing pretty well until now. No previews yet but its still a nice powerful task manager that views icon in a nice view and has launch on search / camera button press too!
It's called TaskOS!
I've tried both task os and app swipe and still...they are both very unpolished multitasking management systems =/
I hope eventually something will come along.
I came from the Palm Pre before I got my HTC Hero, and multitasking was wayyyy better than Android. In fact, if the Pre wasn't so slow, I would have kept it over the HTC Hero. It took me over a minute to open Google Maps... with nothing else running! (and the keyboard sucked)
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It'd solve a lot if the android switcher had a button to pull up the app drawer.
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Dxtop has a second App Drawer that does just that. It works great.
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Dxtop has a second App Drawer that does just that. It works great.
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Eh, that shows background services like home and what not..
Personally I'd like to disable the drawer from showing apps on my ignore list
what would be nice is if you held home then cards poped up like in webos and showed your running apps with a preview pic of the app
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what would be nice is if you held home then cards poped up like in webos and showed your running apps with a preview pic of the app
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YEah thats something to look forward too.
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YEah thats something to look forward too.
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but for that to happen google probley would have to add that in there rom in a update hopefuly it'll happen
nice idea. I wish i knew how to make it happen.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=668232
Wow i was just thinking the same thing today, (i used to own a pre) But check out TaskOS in the market guys!!! It's legit, almost exactly the same as cardview on webos except it just shows icons instead of real time view.
If you want a nice way to switch apps without the stupid home key crap just install advanced task killer and switch the default click option to switch too instead of select/unselect. Its one swipe down for the notifications, one click on atk, and one more click on the app you want. Its not as good as webOS but its the best method I can find for now. I also leave a shortcut to atk on my home screen.
there is also MultiTask Manager. Once again not as good as WebOS card view but its more like an Iphone multitask thing. I think I like TaskOS the best. Well I'm not allowed to post links because of new member thing so just look it up.
It wouldn't be hard if you can get live preview's of the application windows.
I've been searching google for "android sdk live preview" and the like for a while though and its not looking good
can the current state of multi-tasking allows, for example, one uses the phone with the speaker while trying to look up some info/or do something with another application(eg, look up notes that you have written down from an application)?
cheers
It's the question everyone always asks so I'll be the sacrificial lamb....what apps would help the idol 3 specifically to function better? I've heard folks not happy with the default launcher are using nova launcher (prime) which also has it's own double tap to wake. Some are worried about the screen eating so much battery up...well you can try the free version of Lux which might help. I could list all my usual fav apps but I'm more looking for ones that enhance or overcome features of the idol 3. Until we can get root many of my fav's such as Titanium Backup will be mostly useless.
I'm using Nova Prime with the app Screen Off in order to get the DTTS. Works great. And of course the Google keyboard as the stock keyboard has no swipe function.
I don't mind the stock launcher, but I did install now launcher and nova prime just to try some different ones. Replaced the aosp keyboard with the google keyboard. I installed smart unlock because I liked the wifi based unlocking better than the location based unlocking that comes stock.
Easy App Switcher
Considering that I find the Recent Apps to be the aspect of the phone that has the most lag, I found an app that makes tasks switching a little more efficient ...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.echoff.easyswitch
I mention some apps here that might be useful: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61209163&postcount=19
smart suite app
famewolf said:
It's the question everyone always asks so I'll be the sacrificial lamb....what apps would help the idol 3 specifically to function better? I've heard folks not happy with the default launcher are using nova launcher (prime) which also has it's own double tap to wake. Some are worried about the screen eating so much battery up...well you can try the free version of Lux which might help. I could list all my usual fav apps but I'm more looking for ones that enhance or overcome features of the idol 3. Until we can get root many of my fav's such as Titanium Backup will be mostly useless.
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i use the 6045l and did not have a phone management app. was looking for a PC and phone app to backup my phone. well alcatel onetouch global site has now got one up for download, it is called "Smart Suite v 3.0.5" build date 4-17-2015 and is for the idol 3 5.5. also one for the 4.7 too. the file can be found on the global onetouch site, pull up the idol3 as if your looking to buy and review specs, under the specs heading click the plus sign to see full specs, scroll down the specs to find the smart suite app. download to pc and install, i can tell you norton security bounced this file do to it being so new not enough info on it but i forced norton to ignore and installed. this is a official alcatel app so i felt it would be safe, then after app is installed on pc plug your phone into the pc the app will install the phone portion app. i can tell you this app very much looks and operates like samsung kies app. it will check os and update or you can manage your phone files and apps for backup and restore, install new apps and use your wifi.
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I'm using Nova Prime with the app Screen Off in order to get the DTTS. Works great. And of course the Google keyboard as the stock keyboard has no swipe function.
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this one?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.katecca.screenofflock&hl=es
Yep, that's it.
hey all
So I recently got myself a Nexbox A95x to play with, hardware is really nice, looks sleek, then I turned it on.. The first thing that hit me is the launcher UI is horrible.
To cut a long story short, I've looked on the Play Store and I can't seem to see any launchers that look anything close to the UI experience of Google's Leanback launcher so I'm wondering what you guys recommend as the launcher for one of these types of boxes?
Also, is there any apps you use to be notified on your TV when you get an sms or whatsapp etc?
I should also note I'm a dev, and I'm seriously considering building something better than what I've currently found out there so far so I'm interested to know if I've missed something or if the state of TV ui apps atm really is lacking..
You could try https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.awe.dev.pro.tv
Once it been set-up, it's very good. You can change artwork of apps and rearrange with ease.
Does this replace original launcher? Or does it act app like? Does it start itself when booting android TV?
I know this thread is old but I recently purchased the A95X and wanted to share my thoughts for anyone who may find this in the near future.
The A95X isn't the greatest box by any stretch but the TV Launcher linked here has made this box worth using. I've been looking for a way to sideload the Google Android TV Launcher but this device is not listed as compatible with the play store listing. Still searching for that but in the mean time, TV Launcher is a quality app that does run app like but you just set it as the default launcher and it starts when you boot the box. I recommend it.
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I know this thread is old but I recently purchased the A95X and wanted to share my thoughts for anyone who may find this in the near future.
The A95X isn't the greatest box by any stretch but the TV Launcher linked here has made this box worth using. I've been looking for a way to sideload the Google Android TV Launcher but this device is not listed as compatible with the play store listing. Still searching for that but in the mean time, TV Launcher is a quality app that does run app like but you just set it as the default launcher and it starts when you boot the box. I recommend it.
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you can use cetusplay from playstore.. inside cetusplay there is app section from which leanback launchers can be installed..
but for some reason google leanback launcher not showing recommendations.
I will also suggest you to use HAL launcher.
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hey all
So I recently got myself a Nexbox A95x to play with, hardware is really nice, looks sleek, then I turned it on.. The first thing that hit me is the launcher UI is horrible.
To cut a long story short, I've looked on the Play Store and I can't seem to see any launchers that look anything close to the UI experience of Google's Leanback launcher so I'm wondering what you guys recommend as the launcher for one of these types of boxes?
Also, is there any apps you use to be notified on your TV when you get an sms or whatsapp etc?
I should also note I'm a dev, and I'm seriously considering building something better than what I've currently found out there so far so I'm interested to know if I've missed something or if the state of TV ui apps atm really is lacking..
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it is really difficult for me to even imagine anything worse than lean back launcher
https://www.atvxperience.com
I'm considering the M5 8.4 to replace my aging Nexus 7 (2013) and would like some feedback on the EMUI software experience.
Do you like the skin? Is it similar to stock Android?
Since there probably won't be many ROM options, how is Huawei's track record with updates?
Thanks,
Rick
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There should be lots of ROM options shortly if not right away, since the device is Treble compatible as are other EMUI 8.0 devices.
For whatever it's worth:
I am running EMUI - but debloated with Nova installed (I couldn't imagine Android without Nova). I'm also not 100% sure what features are EMUI vs stock Oreo.
There's a "Launch" feature built in to EMUI that allows you to specify which apps are allowed to launch in the background, allowed to be launched by a secondary app, and allowed to run in the background. I like this feature, but if you don't bother setting preferences for each app, EMUI kills background apps somewhat aggressively.
EMUI lets you choose between a collapsible navbar (if rooted you can use Exposed Edge Pro instead), and/or a one-button navigation system using the fingerprint sensor - tap for 'back,' hold for 'home,' swipe for 'recents.' I am using the one-button system in conjunction with Edge Pro and to me it's pretty seamless (but I still have to work on not hitting the sensor by accident).
The dialer and SMS skins are fine. Stock DPI options are a bit high, but you can change via developer options (after every reboot). Stock camera app no longer works if you change the DPI, but you can always use opencamera (or change the DPI back).
The other day I had an issue with background music playback about 45 minutes into streaming music via an old version of eDJing premium. Issues stopped after I disabled Doze (via root app that I had set to run at boot). That's probably an Android issue?
Battery life for me is in line with what I have experienced with every similar phablet I have previously owned.
Anyways, all EMUI 8.0 devices share key things in common, so the dev community is larger than it seems.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback. I also use Nova and will probably remove some of the reduny apps. I can see myself rooting and using Magisk.
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In my opinion the emui is not bad.
The personalization of Android that Huawei made is pretty clean.
However they obviusly add some bugs:
- adaptive icons do not works correctly: you can have only the circular one (even with Nova)
- the resolution of the display or the information that the apps get are really strange: some app starts always in landscape, no matter the actual orientation, other render the pages in strange ways when the tablet in turned fron landscape to portait, etc... Really really annoying
- battery optimization is too agressive and it is not (for me) completely clear how to tune it
- every time the launcher is updated, it switch back to its stock launcher, and i have to set the nova again as default (this can be done just in the default app in the settings). Probably this will happen also for other apps.
The hardware is solid and the battery life is good.
The position of the touch sensor and of the hardware buttons are not imho right and a big design failure.
If you keep the tablet in portrait with the touch button in the buttom: the hardware buttons are almost inaccessible unless you have a prehensile bellybutton ?
In landscape if you try to change the volume with the hardware button your finger will touch the touch button and the current app is "closed" (the tablet swith back to the home screen). This is a software feature (bug?) that i will like to change
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Also the Mediapad is now listed as enterprise device. I'd be surprised if they'd stop with updates soon.
As for EMUI:
It's a mixed bag for me. There are 3 annoying bugs which most likely have their origin in EMUI:
- 2 fingers at the same time without instantly moving makes the tablet not recognize the input anymore. (there is a thread on xda about it)
The other 2 are about the keyboard accessory which is probably irrelevant for you (for everybody else):
- flipping the cover from front to back triggers a "refresh", black screen on netflix or a return from edit mode to view mode in xodo pdf
- EMUI always asks if I want to start desktop mode when a keyboard is connected, doesn't matter if you tick the "don't remind me again" checkbox
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- adaptive icons do not works correctly: you can have only the circular one (even with Nova)
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Squircle works for me. I think all work. I'm not sure they work how they should. Not that I care.
- the resolution of the display or the information that the apps get are really strange: some app starts always in landscape, no matter the actual orientation, other render the pages in strange ways when the tablet in turned fron landscape to portait, etc... Really really annoying
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This usually has to do with the apps, not EMUI. Install Rotation Control to force auto rotation across all apps.
battery optimization is too agressive and it is not (for me) completely clear how to tune it
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This is probably the biggest issue with EMUI. But almost everything is tunable and with root/feedback from other EMUI users, I don't expect this to be a long term issue for anyone. (I started having issues playing music in the background without a charger plugged in - they fixed themselves last night and I'm not sure why. My preferred music player app was last updated in probably 2011, might or might not be a factor.)
every time the launcher is updated, it switch back to its stock launcher, and i have to set the nova again as default (this can be done just in the default app in the settings).
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I can confirm that you do not have this issue as long as automatic updates are turned off. I have also seen a general improvement after uninstalling updates to Google Webview.
The one EMUI feature I like that I forgot to mention in my previous post, is Eye Comfort. It's a partial blue light filter that works better than any apps I've found on the Play Store.
Nope the adpative icons do not works, and this is something that you may corcern since this is one of the feature of Oreo and the app on oreo only gave icons to works as adpative. The circle one are just ugly.
Regarding the orietation, the same app works all correctly on my previous tablet and on all my other devices.
Root should not be required to solve implementation problem.
The sotck rom must be as much as posdible bug free.
For all this bug we should blame Huawei: have a look to the support fotum for nova launcher or chronus, just to understand the real situation.
As usual what it is important for someone count nothing for the others
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Hi anyone on EMUI in the UK with the 10.8 Wifi version (CMR-W09). Would you please tell me what is the version you are on (Latest). As I am considering going back from Lineage for a short while as there are too many bugs just now. Stupidly I didn't note down what version of EMUI 8 I should be on and there are tonnes of them. Cheers.
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Hi anyone on EMUI in the UK with the 10.8 Wifi version (CMR-W09). Would you please tell me what is the version you are on (Latest). As I am considering going back from Lineage for a short while as there are too many bugs just now. Stupidly I didn't note down what version of EMUI 8 I should be on and there are tonnes of them. Cheers.
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SHT-W09C432B151 (8.0.0.151) is what you need
Hey there,
It's not a mixed zone for me:
1) If I wanted an Ipad I would have bought that.
2) I do not like limits in terms of app-drawer etc. (fixed this, now using Nova Pro)
3) battery optimization too heavy: hell, using the keyboard with firefox (nebo, playstore, and may more) is almost impossible as the screen brightness lowers even if automatic brightness adjustment is turned off ...
What I love is:
1) Battery live
2) How it all fits together (So the "Iphoneish feeling" that I cried about above is not my taste, but it's a consistent Design at least ...)
I bought the Mediapad mainly because of the Pen, the Hardware, and the Keyboard(if I am not hating it for ausing brightness trouble...) and these are the things that I really like!
I don't mind emui has some good features and of you use Nova you can make it look stock. I like the themes and the book cover feature. I like the battery optimisation it lasts so well.
I'm trying to get ahold of the stock firmware so I can root mine.
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SHT-W09C432B151 (8.0.0.151) is what you need
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Thanks very much. Appreciated!
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I don't mind emui has some good features and of you use Nova you can make it look stock. I like the themes and the book cover feature. I like the battery optimisation it lasts so well.
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the tab has great features but some disadvantages (brightness bug with keyboard for me ... weird behavior at least)
Best of all certainly is the battery life! And I am using Nova ... That's why the look is not too much of an issue
I do notice the aggressive doze feature.
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I decided to replace my aging, but beloved, Nexus 7 2013 WiFi (running LineagoOS 15.0) with something a bit meatier. After much consideration, I ordered and received a 32GB M5 8.4 (SHT-W09) from Amazon UK.
First up, the hardware is awesome. I really notice the difference with the move to 4GB RAM and the updated CPU / GPU. The performance is worlds apart from the Nexus 7 - very zippy, very responsive, games run great etc. The display also is a significant improvement - I really like the 16:9 ratio too and don't agree with review feedback that it impacts eBook and web browsing. It works great for those and just looks incredible for movies and TV. No surprises so far, then, given the 5 year old spec of the N7. On the subject of this display, note that both Amazon Prime Video and Netflix now support HD playback on the SHT-W09. Absolutely brilliant. Audio is fine, I'd always listen through Bose BT OE headphones anyway. The lack of 3.5" headphone jack doesn't bother me in the least.
So, on to the OP question about EMUI. To be honest, I really don't like it. The sheer number of junk apps installed is disappointing, especially as some (YouTube, for example) cannot be uninstalled. Note that of the 32GB available, only 16GB was available out of the box. Adoptable storage has been explicitly disabled in EMUI, so there's no option to use external SD as internal storage. A bit disappointing, but a 128GB MicroSD gives plenty of storage for media, if not apps. Within the UI itself, I miss the app drawer button (I'm sure there's an option somewhere) and it all just doesn't feel "familiar" enough for my liking. The Themes idea is great, but the version delivered with the tab only seems to support local themes - there's no "Theme Store" as such, unlike the phone version of the app. As such, customisation feels limited. I've simply installed Nova and couldn't be happier with the end result.
A really worthy replacement for the king of Android tablets, the Nexus 7 2013, so I'd encourage the OP to give it a go!
@mroshaw similar for me. I replaced my Nexus 7 (2012) by the SHT-W09 and I am quite happy. I uninstalled all the apps I do not use (ebay, facebook, some games, ...) and I replaced the laucher with the Pixel-Launcher. The only parts which still remember me that I am running on EMUI are the top bar and the configuration settings, but I can live with that.
I do not regret having it bought. There are not many Android tablets out offering such a build quality and performance for such a price tag.
I am growing to like the emui. It's got some grand security features. Like others, I uninstalled a TON of apps, disabled others, then I put an AOSP P Dark theme (from here on xda). The theme takes care of the notifications bar icons - I didn't really like the emui ones - plus "stock-ifies" most of the UI.
@mroshaw To activate the app drawer button, go to Settings, Display, Home Secreen Stlye, choose Drawer.
To enable SD card storage, Settings, Storage, Default Location. I have 45GBs out of the internal 64GB once I adb uninstalled bloat.
The deal breaker for me with EMUI is the missing option to plug in the tablet via USB and mount its storage to be visible and usable with any files operation (I use Linux only). There is no HiSuite for Linux and doing everything via adb is just a pain in the neck.
Having said that, the alternative is Lineage OS as the currently only alternative ROM, but this breaks two other things which are a deal breaker as well: No Bluetooth connectivity (its just dosn't pair anything properly), so no BT audio, which sucks when there is no headphone jack. Plus, with a custom ROM you lose L1 security in widevine, so no HD streaming with Netflix or Amazon video.
Fortunately, my usage for the tablet is different from my beloved N7; I mainly use it as a score reader for my piano. I wouldn't recommend it as a replacement for the N7; for that I bought the Lenovo Tab 4 Plus and it's a perfect replacement - except there are no custom ROM, But you can root it and the Lenovo UI is pretty much stock.
@DF5JT mtp works for me to access the device's internal and sdcard storage. Probably you need to configure your udev rules to identify your device correctly.
Is there any way to get vertical recent apps on Android 10 open beta? The horizontal recent is pretty much useless as it only shows one app on the screen.
Normally you install another launcher (Apex Classic as an option) and you have it (back).
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Tried. But didn't work. I also tried old OnePlus launcher, that didn't work either.
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Tried. But didn't work. I also tried old OnePlus launcher, that didn't work either.
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Hmm try using an alternative launcher and freezing/disabling the oneplus launchers
If freezing / disabling is what it takes, that is a pity for bon-rooters. That would really be customer unfriendly. I hate this whole gesture based thing because I use my fix gestures since 2014 when I started using Apex launcher. It would mean I need to reprogram my brains.
Freezing also breaks gestures
Perhaps soon it'll be introduced:
]https://www.xda-developers.com/late...t-third-party-launchers-already-live-pixel-4/
Here's hoping anyway!
I disabled the horizontal recents in pie.
Now after the update to 10, I don't have recents at all.
I reinstalled the oneplus Launcher. Still no recents.
Any ideas?
Is there any solution for this, the recent apps on the oneplus 7 pro is just horrible
Although the 7 pro is a brilliant phone, Oxygen isnt that great : I come from a Samsung with goodlock and i have to say that i am disappointed at the lack of options in oxygen.
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Is there any solution for this, the recent apps on the oneplus 7 pro is just horrible
Although the 7 pro is a brilliant phone, Oxygen isnt that great : I come from a Samsung with goodlock and i have to say that i am disappointed at the lack of options in oxygen.
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Not that I know of, unfortunately. I've actually just forced myself to get used to it....
There is no vertical recents provider in Android 10.
I have looked all over the playstore for an app that can do something like this but sadly nothing.
As an alternative i am using Jina sidebar and sort the apps there by last used.
Everyone complains about samsung's UI and raves about oxygen, but now that i have it i feel very much opposite
Oneplus 7 pro hardware is fantastic certainly for the price i paid for it, but the software leaves a lot to be desired. Sadly the country i live in has no possibilities for returning your purchase, otherwise i would run back to samsung.
Come on oneplus, make some software !
Any updates on this matter ?
When hell freezes over I'll get used to this stupid horizontal app switcher
If at least I could remap that button to one of those third party recent apps, but not even that.
Once ago (android P) I could freeze the default launcher, and things went back to normal. Now, if I freeze the launcher, nothing comes up.
I think back then the default provider was replaced by an alternative provider, which I would gladly download again if I remembered the name. Something with "quick" on it.