Question Camera qualitty - Google Pixel 7a

Hello,
What do you think about camera quality of main sensor?
My observations:
result are overexposed
mnissing (a lot) exposure compensation in settings
white balance works flawlessly
too agressive postprocessing
missing manual focus
missing manually take exposition
missing PRO mode
indoor photo isn´t good
By my opinion, camera output is little worse than output from my previous Xiaomi Mi A3 with GCam 7.3 port by Burial.

pajos.gabros said:
Hello,
What do you think about camera quality of main sensor?
My observations:
result are overexposed
mnissing (a lot) exposure compensation in settings
white balance works flawlessly
too agressive postprocessing
missing manual focus
missing manually take exposition
missing PRO mode
indoor photo isn´t good
By my opinion, camera output is little worse than output from my previous Xiaomi Mi A3 with GCam 7.3 port by Burial.
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Google camea does not feature a Pro mode. It's a point and shoot camera setup for the average user.
Otherwise you can try a different GCam port from BSG, Shahim or BigKaka with the proper config file and see what suits you best!

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[Updated v3.6] Google Camera HDR+ Portrait (Selfie & Back) fully working

I have been following this website which upload all of Gcam versions. Recently a developer from the Russian forum 4pda (scrubber) uploaded APK which fixes all the problems of portrait mode and HDR+ for the selfie and back camera.
The Gcam doesn't require any configuration it's already set to the Nexus 6p model which gives the best details and the outcome of the pictures is amazing looks like it was taking with Pixel 2.
Direct Link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/scrubber_GCam_5.1.018_25.apk
Thanks to @leomedeia
cstark27 version got the best white balance instead of the blue tint that was on scrubber's version.
Direct Link: Better Low Light v3.6(20/3/2018)
Latest version website: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
I can't post pictures right now cause im traveling but please check it yourself
Working fine, thanks!
Installed it and works fine, but what about Lens Blur?
GeorgeWD said:
Installed it and works fine, but what about Lens Blur?
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I've been following these ports for a long time too and I'm currently using "scrubber_GCAM_5.1.018_25". It has portrait mode on both the front and back cameras and works like a charm. Plus you don't have to configure anything since it's already done. So I suggest you try using that version.
I'm using the one you are suggesting and yes it has portrait mode but what about lens blur;
GeorgeWD said:
I'm using the one you are suggesting and yes it has portrait mode but what about lens blur;
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There can either be Portrait mode or Lens blur. If you really want Lens Blur, then the stable version that I used before, for Lens Blur was "GCam5.1.014-Arnova8G2-v9.1".
It produced some great results with Lens Blur and ofcourse with HDR+. Tho it depends on what config you use in the settings.
Why rear camera shows maximum resolution as 12 megapixel instead of 16 megapixels.
Please add the advance setting in ths app,so that we can swap between portrait n blur mode.
vipulxda said:
Why rear camera shows maximum resolution as 12 megapixel instead of 16 megapixels.
Please add the advance setting in ths app,so that we can swap between portrait n blur mode.
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Its because google pixel 2 has 12 mega pixel in its rear camera resolution
Scrubber's versions were made to work on his Xiaomi Mi Max 2. It's a "install and forget" app, that's why you don't see an option to enable/disable Portrait Mode and probably the reason why you can't go past 12 MP on the back camera (that's the max resolution on his phone).
Try Arnova's 5.1.018_v1.5 instead. You will need to configure the app so HDR+ works without any issues. I have the OnePlus 3 and for that reason can't tell you which settings are the best for this phone, but try the ones compatible with the Nokia 8:
Model: Nexus 6P (or Pixel 2XL for less noisy, and less detailed, photos)
Config camera HDR+: Pixel 2017 Zsl Hdr+ (ZSL available with Auto HDR, not with forced HDR/HDR enhanced)
HDR+ parameters: High
Or try some very stable, but limiting, settings:
Model: Nexus 6P (or Pixel 2XL)
Config camera HDR+: Nexus 6 Auto
HDR+ parameters: Default
Some of the settings inside the "advanced" menu may not be compatible with this device. If the app starts crashing, you might be using incompatible settings or have enabled some incompatible feature.
This port is always evolving, so with time Arnova's 5.1.018_v1.5 will became "old". Keep trying his apks and the ones from B-S-G. Or just use these "install and forget" apks... they work too.
By the way, I have this telegram channel for update alerts. When I upload new apks to the page linked by @sayedam, I also post them on the telegram channel.
I have also been following the gcam development and almost test each update on daily basis on Nokia 6 (2017)
Till now(as of January 16,2018) the best camera for Front and back portrait working flawless is the
cstark27_GCam_5.1.018_24_rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen_v1
Link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...Cam_5.1.018_24_rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen_v1.apk
Development record Link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Which is based on @scrubber 's work.
This camera is the best install and forget app yet for Nokia 6
Front and back cameras both have portrait mode working.
I will attach the camera results ASAP.
minhas729 said:
I have also been following the gcam development and almost test each update on daily basis on Nokia 6 (2017)
Till now(as of January 16,2018) the best camera for Front and back portrait working flawless is the
cstark27_GCam_5.1.018_24_rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen_v1
Link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/...Cam_5.1.018_24_rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen_v1.apk
Development record Link: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
Which is based on @scrubber 's work.
This camera is the best install and forget app yet for Nokia 6
Front and back cameras both have portrait mode working.
I will attach the camera results ASAP.
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Some shots caputred by @cstark27 mod with rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen
Pic sequence:
1. Indoor back camera portrait in good lighting.
2 Indoor back camera portrait in normal lighting.
3. Outdoor front camera portrait in day light
minhas729 said:
Some shots caputred by @cstark27 mod with rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen
Pic sequence:
1. Indoor back camera portrait in good lighting.
2 Indoor back camera portrait in normal lighting.
3. Outdoor front camera portrait in day light
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4. Outdoor back camera portrait in day light.
5. Outdoor front camera portrait in night with flash
6. Outdoor front camera portrait in night wdot flash
7. Outdoor back camera portrait in night with flash
8. Outdoor back camera portrait in night wdot flash
While using @Arnova8G2 's latest mod......GoogleCamera-PixelMod-Arnova8G2-5.1.018-v1...... Just like all previous versions i have tested. For Nokia 6 although this camera gives exteme details and good photos with any configuration we use but one and only issue comes that front camera picture whether its Normal capture or portrait mode from front camera have blue tint on pictures
Otherwise this camera is the great in picture quality.
Tagging dear @Arnova8G2 here so that if he can look and if he can help us with that ?
Attaching the tinted pictures we get from front camera in normal and portrait both modes
minhas729 said:
While using @Arnova8G2 's latest mod... Just like all previous versions i have tested. For Nokia 6 although this camera gives exteme details and good photos with any configuration we use but one and only issue comes that front camera picture whether its Normal capture or portrait mode from front camera have blue tint on pictures
Otherwise this camera is the great in picture quality.
Tagging dear @Arnova8G2 here so that if he can look and if he can help us with that ?
Attaching the tinted pictures we get from front camera in normal and portrait both modes
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Which version GcMod5 or ModPixel ?
In this version GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.5Beta2 the problem does not exist?
By your answer I could correct on the next version
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Which version GcMod5 or ModPixel ?
In this version GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.5Beta2 the problem does not exist?
By your answer I could correct on the next version
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Sorry i was editing the post and you answered really quick... Brother its pixel mod v1 ...its previous version also had same issue.. I have tested all the previous versions gcmod5 as well.
For gc5mod the pictures from front camera contain no details i.e. look like 0.2 MP pics. But also they have no tint.... Right now i am again checking the mod u link to confirm it...
Give me just 120 seconds to confirm it
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Which version GcMod5 or ModPixel ?
In this version GCam5.1.018-Arnova8G2-V1.5Beta2 the problem does not exist?
By your answer I could correct on the next version
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Dear @Arnova8G2 brother
The GCam you linked behaves like this here on Nokia 6
Back camera normal mode.... Black screen
Back camera portrait mode... Works perfect
Front camera normal mide... No tint.. but pic quality is like 0.2 MP camera
Front camera portrait mode... No timt... Same low pic quality
To be honest pixel mod is best only tint is the issue there. That's all
Works great, thanks. Btw, is there any chance to hide slow-motion from the menu, since it doesn't work?
@Arnova8G2 Is there a way to circumvent the 12MP limitation and get PDAF to work since the Nokia 6 has a 16MP PDAF sensor with a nicely working Camera2 API?
minhas729 said:
Some shots caputred by @cstark27 mod with rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen
Pic sequence:
1. Indoor back camera portrait in good lighting.
2 Indoor back camera portrait in normal lighting.
3. Outdoor front camera portrait in day light
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4. Outdoor back camera portrait in day light.
5. Outdoor front camera portrait in night with flash
6. Outdoor front camera portrait in night wdot flash
7. Outdoor back camera portrait in night with flash
8. Outdoor back camera portrait in night wdot flash
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Dear @cstark27 brother, can u make a version of rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen with more camera resolution of back camera i.e. 16mp
Nokia 6 has 16 mp back camera and 8mp front with camera 2 APi enabled by default
Your camera is already awesome but if more resultion can be supported, we will be very very thankful to you brother
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Dear @cstark27 brother, can u make a version of rTaimen_fAngler_cTaimen with more camera resolution of back camera i.e. 16mp
Nokia 6 has 16 mp back camera and 8mp front with camera 2 APi enabled by default
Your camera is already awesome but if more resultion can be supported, we will be very very thankful to you brother
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For photos? I am not sure. My LG V30 supports 16mp with the mod I made so that's weird.

Camera2Api

Why everyone need camera 2 API. Miui camera is best, I test on miui 9 Google camera and it is the same. Only advantage of camera api it is possibility to write RAW file, but only some people want it
No, Gcam produces better dynamic range, better color production, less noise. In daylight difference not that big but especially in low light gcam is far better. Only bad thing on gcam you have to wait too long for shoot a photo. Also stock camera on selfies is literally garbage, doesn't use all capabilities of the sensor.
No, Google Camera is absolutely better, especially on the night photos :highfive:
I not tested front camera on camera 2 API.
Back camera is near the same imo
Gcam generally produces better images, the result is worth the added processing time. Portrait selfie is a lot damn sharper and that one is nowhere MIUI camera can touch.
Guys, join the petition on the official MIUI forum. Here's the link, we want our Camera2 API back on our Mi Note 3!!
http://en.miui.com/thread-3737375-1-1.html
Done
Config about Camera from Miui 10 has difference from Miui 9 which Mi 10 has not Level 3 but Mi 9 has config Level 3
you can install app name : camera2 Probe and droid hardware info from play store to check your config
So we are staying with miui 9 until xiaomi unlocks this?

Open Camera now allows P20 PRO to record video using all lenses

Hi all, you might know this already but I just found out and it seems like absolutely great news for this phone. The latest Open Camera update allows you to record video using every camera on the phone. Even the monochrome one works. No need to have perfect lighting conditions in order for the camera to switch between main and telephoto. You now have a dedicated camera button which lets you select what lens to use. Did you get the chance to try it out? I didn't have any issues yet.
Link please
Here it is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
Is the recording quality improved?
I'm not sure. You do have to option to record with maximum 80Mbps but I I find it hard to tell if that is any different from the 30Mbps standard rate. Video looks crisp and clear, colors are very good, especially if you lock the white balance.
Quality seems not as good.. Also can not use Camera API 2, for high res to get extra control in manual mode.
I'm not sure why you can't use camera2 api. For me it works and I can select iso and exposure during filming. I have a CLT L29.
boradu said:
I'm not sure why you can't use camera2 api. For me it works and I can select iso and exposure during filming. I have a CLT L29.
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whats your max resolution for recording video using Camera2 API?
For the 40mp lens and the telephoto lens, I have 3840x2160. The monochrome camera however has a resolution of 3264x1840 for video.
Sorry for necropost, but anyone tried open camera for B&W photos? Does it allow exposure bracketing? Raw or at least png for file saving? I would like to try p20 pro just for that monochrome lens...
You can save RAW with the B&W camera but for some reason the pictures appear purple.

Google Camera Mod for Zenfone 7/7 Pro

Google Camera Port for Zenfone 7/7 Pro​
Features
- All cameras working with ZSL HDR+ and HDR+ Enhanced
- Night Sight/Astro photography
- Super Res Zoom (Main camera)
- AWB
- Top Shot
- Portrait on front & back camera
- Video recording upto 4K 60FPS With EIS
- Focus tracking
- Motion photos
- Photosphere/Panaroma
- Playground/Stickers (how to install)
Download & Changelog
GCam 7.3
- 15 December 2020: GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V3.1.1 by me
Bugs
- Face retouching
- Slow motion on main (id 0), ultrawide, telephoto but working on 64mp mode
GCam 8.1
- 15 August 2022: GCam_8.1.101_Wichaya_V1.6 by Wichaya
Bugs
- Face retouching
- Slow motion
Credit
@S4turno (Celso) , @Arnova8G2 [donate] , @defcomg (Savitar) [donate] @Urnyx05
Many thanks to other modder who help me make this possible
Many thanks to the testers.
Donation
You can support my work by send me a donation
https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/wichayapoka
Thanks for this - great work. Definitely seems to capture better images than stock!
I've had GCam on my Oneplus 5 for years now and even that produces better images overall than the ZenFone 7 stock cam IMO!
crumble6 said:
Thanks for this - great work. Definitely seems to capture better images than stock!
I've had GCam on my Oneplus 5 for years now and even that produces better images overall than the ZenFone 7 stock cam IMO!
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I would love to see some sample pictures showing the difference.
Does this install just like the GCam for the ZF6 (i.e., you just have to run the APK)?
Perse26 said:
I would love to see some sample pictures showing the difference.
Does this install just like the GCam for the ZF6 (i.e., you just have to run the APK)?
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I'll try do a few comparison shots when I get chance. Someone already posted a couple in the regular ZenFone 7 forums (non Pro). And yes just install the apk.
Big thanks to everyone involved.
I'm receiving the 7 Pro sometime this week, and I will definitely give GCam a try. Are there any config XML files for this phone yet?
Could someone post comparisions? Especially in situations with high dynamic range and at night on a street. Thanks!
I will post some in about 9-10 hours for the ZF7Pro.
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I will post some in about 9-10 hours for the ZF7Pro.
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I'll try to post some outdoor pictures in the next day or two. These were basically the only pictures I could take with my kids in my face.
The national geographic bag was a low light situation.
In my opinion the Gcam pictures look better (in most ways) except the 3x zoom of the National Geographic bag. Please note there are two different Gcam versions of the "Onward picture." It almost seems like the Gcam
Here are some fairly close range 3x examples of the Zenfone 6 Gcam, Zenfone 7 Gcam and Zenfone 7 Stock. The Zenfone 6 did its best but digital zoom wasn't enough. The Zenfone 7 Gcam added strange dots that show up when pixel peeping. The stock Zenfone 7 software did a decent job.
I processed the 3x shots with some software that I have to see if I couldn't make it look a bit better.
Perse26 said:
I'll try to post some outdoor pictures in the next day or two. These were basically the only pictures I could take with my kids in my face.
The national geographic bag was a low light situation.
In my opinion the Gcam pictures look better (in most ways) except the 3x zoom of the National Geographic bag. Please note there are two different Gcam versions of the "Onward picture." It almost seems like the Gcam
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So now I'm actually having a problem with Gcam.... This morning I downloaded the Gcam from this thread, everything worked great (that's when I took those pictures) it gave me options for the wide angle, 1x, 3x and 64mp cameras. I did a restore from my Zenfone 6 and now I have the gcam from the Zenfone 6. I deleted the Gcam and tried to reinstall the one from this thread and now I keep getting the Zenfone 6 version with just the 1x camera instead of the other options.
Any ideas?
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You need to clear app data to reinitialize default config
mickey36736 said:
You need to clear app data to reinitialize default config
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Brilliant, thank you. I deleted the cache data and all of the "app data," and it worked.
The 3x on the GCam definitely adds lots of little dots, which are visible without pixel peeping. It seems to be some type of error. If this can be resolved in future updates, it will really improve the functionality of the Zenfone 7 Pro's 3x capability.
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The 3x on the GCam definitely adds lots of little dots, which are visible without pixel peeping.
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What could be causing those dots?
jericho246 said:
What could be causing those dots?
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I took about 6 more pictures with different settings, it seems to only happen when HDR or HDR enhanced is on.
Perse26 said:
I took about 6 more pictures with different settings, it seems to only happen when HDR or HDR enhanced is on.
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I think it's because the telephoto sensor has "limited" Camera2 API level. Same with the ultrawide one. Only the main sensor is Level_3, apparently. Although this should be easily fixed, since the bootloader can be unlocked.
What do you think, @mickey36736 ?
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I think it's because the telephoto sensor has "limited" Camera2 API level. Same with the ultrawide one. Only the main sensor is Level_3, apparently. Although this should be easily fixed, since the bootloader can be unlocked.
What do you think, @mickey36736 ?
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Telephoto use OmniVision sensor which is a well known for dots issue and hard to fix. There is a work around by adjust some lib patcher for tele to reduce dots. Not depends on Camera2 API level.
Thanks for the work and the samples. Does flipping the camera for front facing images also work?
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Thanks for the work and the samples. Does flipping the camera for front facing images also work?
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Yes it does
I just got the 7 Pro and tested it extensively with stock camera and this GCAM version. As a comparison I used my Pixel 3 also with an enhanced CGAM version. First I ran into some issues:
- HDR plus (not enhanced) is not working when the camera is in selfie mode. Full HDR plus does work. This means outside HDR plus enhanced images in HDR scenes have VERY badly overexposed parts and simply are unusable. Turn the camera back and everything is great. Sadly I do not like the look of HDR plus enhanced (night mode is also a workaround)
- In selfie mode the app does not recognize, that it has a full fledged flash. It only offers sefie light (lit up screen around the viewfinder).
- Colors in low light scenes are too muted. This goes especially for skin tones.
Apart from that the cameras perform very nice. Using night mode on the zoom lens even in better lighting conditions gives very good results. But overall it falls short of what even a Pixel 3 can deliver on its main camera. Sure, in perfect conditions the cameras are very capable - with GCAM and without. But Pixel is sooo much more consistant! Being able to consistantly getting better pictures of faces in low light (selfie or not) even when awkwardly taking selfies with the Pixel's main camera than with the Zenfones flip camera is a no go. I am honestly very saddened; I had high hopes.
(Just a disclaimer to not come across as someone too fixated on selfies: As this is the "killer feature" of this camera and its main gimmic, this was a focus of my testing.)
ThoroSOE said:
I just got the 7 Pro and tested it extensively with stock camera and this GCAM version. As a comparison I used my Pixel 3 also with an enhanced CGAM version. First I ran into some issues:
- HDR plus (not enhanced) is not working when the camera is in selfie mode. Full HDR plus does work. This means outside HDR plus enhanced images in HDR scenes have VERY badly overexposed parts and simply are unusable. Turn the camera back and everything is great. Sadly I do not like the look of HDR plus enhanced (night mode is also a workaround)
- In selfie mode the app does not recognize, that it has a full fledged flash. It only offers sefie light (lit up screen around the viewfinder).
- Colors in low light scenes are too muted. This goes especially for skin tones.
Apart from that the cameras perform very nice. Using night mode on the zoom lens even in better lighting conditions gives very good results. But overall it falls short of what even a Pixel 3 can deliver on its main camera. Sure, in perfect conditions the cameras are very capable - with GCAM and without. But Pixel is sooo much more consistant! Being able to consistantly getting better pictures of faces in low light (selfie or not) even when awkwardly taking selfies with the Pixel's main camera than with the Zenfones flip camera is a no go. I am honestly very saddened; I had high hopes.
(Just a disclaimer to not come across as someone too fixated on selfies: As this is the "killer feature" of this camera and its main gimmic, this was a focus of my testing.)
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One thing I noticed is that the front camera id 1 use ultra wide sensor with cropped resolution at 6.5 mp instead on main camera due to camera2 api. No idea why asus did this but this is the reason why the ultra wide lens doesn't perform as good as the main back camera.
Plus newer Gcam require a lot of individual tweaking by lib pacther settings. Once you try to play around with lib patcher. You realize how much headroom can improve photo quality to suit your tastes. It may not be as simple as the pixel because of different sensors setup but you can tweak as much as you like.
mickey36736 said:
One thing I noticed is that the front camera id 1 use ultra wide sensor with cropped resolution at 6.5 mp instead on main camera due to camera2 api. No idea why asus did this but this is the reason why the ultra wide lens doesn't perform as good as the main back camera.
Plus newer Gcam require a lot of individual tweaking by lib pacther settings. Once you try to play around with lib patcher. You realize how much headroom can improve photo quality to suit your tastes. It may not be as simple as the pixel because of different sensors setup but you can tweak as much as you like.
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I'm finding there's a lot of noise in some lighting conditions on the gcam wide angle lens. Anyone else found this? I've tried tweaking all the denoise settings but can't seem to get rid of it. It's strangely in the outer edges of the shot. Also, such noise is present on stock wide angle too at times.
Though very interestingly, stock night mode used in the same shot with the wide angle pretty much eliminates it.

Can remove noise reduction stock camera POCO X3?

Can someone turn off the noise reduction in the default camera app (miui camera)? I have seen changes to the Poco x3 camera using other app (pro shot) without noise reduction the results are really cool and natural. is it possible for someone to modify the default camera (miui camera) like that? thanks.
It appears that not, there's no option visible to deactive. recently realized that in the stock camera: in selfies the faces look washed out and without details. Hopefully in the new version of the camera for Android 11 improve that.
Until I tried the GCam 8.1 from ArnovaG8, and an improvement in the definition of the photographs is very noticeable (at least from the front camera), the only bad point is that the files are 2.1MPX (FullHD), perhaps with another version .

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