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[ROM][KFHD7][7.4.8] ♦ Kinology 3.3 ♦ 2014/03/12 ♦ Final

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Introducing Kinology - The Premier KFHD7 Custom ROM​
Standard Disclaimer: I cannot be held responsible for loss, damages, or any kind of issue whatsoever that could arise from installing this ROM. You install it at your own risk.
Kinology is the premier custom ROM for the Kindle Fire HD 7" tablet. It will not work on any other device. Kinology should be considered a "hybrid OS"; it contains Amazon's 7.4.8 ICS-based core along with Google's ICS Services Framework and application stack.
Feature list
Installation / Download
Advanced Configuration
Known Issues
History
Screenshots
3.3 will be the last version of Kinology. The 7.4.9 update does not leave enough room on the system partition for the Kinology base. Additionally, that version of the Amazon OS is using server side filtering that prevents many non-Amazon approved applications from working correctly. My investigations into the issue did not turn up an easy fix.
What's new?
3.3 - 2014/03/12
Update the base to 7.4.8 and updated included apps. See the History page linked above for further details.
3.2 - 2013/11/21
Kinology itself is unchanged for this release. Only apps have been updated. See the History page linked above for details.
3.1 - 2013/08/11
Updated the base OS to 7.4.6.
The restart/failure message when flashing the boot zip will only be shown if the recovery is actually changed.
Installers now apply ASLR correctly to all libraries.
Added Adobe Flash Player again, as it no longer causes browsers to crash.
Updated GmsCore, Hangouts, and Play Store in the Google package.
Updated Adobe Air in the Amazon Updates package.
Behind the scenes stuff:
* Added code to the make scripts to build all-in-one installation.
* Modified the make scripts so that .apks with identical code and resources always result in binary-identical files.
* Because of the previous modification, update zips can now be automatically generated.
* Many other changes to the make scripts so that they are more resilient.
3.0. - 2013/07/21
Updated the base OS to 7.4.5.
Fixed the disabled wallpaper issue in 7.4.1.
Removed text on battery icons (a percentage option was added by Amazon).
Updated Gmail, GmsCore, and the Play Store in the Google package, and added Hangouts instead of Talk.
Update SuperSU and included SuperSUNoNag.
Removed Adobe Flash Player as it is not compatible with 7.4.5.
Fixed the install process: the boot zip is now required, but it will only flash items that you do not already have installed.
Separated Amazon app updates from Kinology proper in the install process.
XDA:DevDB Information
Kinology [KFHD7/TATE], ROM for the Amazon 7" Kindle Fire HD
Contributors
JulianPaoloThiry
ROM OS Version: 4.0.x Ice Cream Sandwich
Based On: Amazon OS 7.4.8
Version Information
Status: Stable
Current Stable Version: 3.3
Stable Release Date: 2014-03-12
Created 2014-10-16
Last Updated 2014-10-16

I was just cleaning up my system (Had CM10.1 on it, but was facing issues with Video chat in GTalk) to go back to Kinology 2.0.1 and was facing some boot issues. When I went back to see the potential list of ROMs to try, I noticed this thread.
Edit: Flashed it and seems to be stable so far. Still checking stability of various apps.
Edit 2: Spoke too soon. Just got a random reboot. The screen was in landscape mode and was trying to get it to portrait, it just rebooted.I did a first reboot before setting up the device as mentioned in the installation procedure.
Sequence of events before I got the random reboot: I flashed the files as per the installation procedure (verbatim), did a reboot after the first boot, set up the system, added google accounts, installed nova launcher, set that as my primary launcher, tried hangout, it hung in the Video call, force stopped it, then was editing the message here in the forum, went back to Kindle, was rotating to portrait mode, kindle rebooted.
EDIT 3: I am still getting random reboots trying to play around hangout. I will find GTalk apk from somewhere and install. I will update the status after that.

No flash, no fun . That was one of the best features in android for me, besides the roms. If it's possible, i would love to see a fix for it.
Thanks,
Grwy
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Request to package just Gtalk and allow option to users to upgrade to Hangouts
One humble request: If you could, please let the users decide if they want to upgrade to hangout. I am facing issues with that, and I was able to uninstall updates to go back to GTalk. But given that Hangouts was directly add to the ROM itself, I could not go back to GTalk by just uninstalling it in Playstore.
I will figure a way to get GTalk back. But it was easier to uninstall from play store

raj3366 said:
I will figure a way to get GTalk back.
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I can make an updater zip that replaces Hangouts with Talk. Will probably post it tomorrow sometime.

GreyGeist said:
No flash, no fun . That was one of the best features in android for me, besides the roms. If it's possible, i would love to see a fix for it.
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This bugs me a lot, too. I'm not sure if there will be a solution. Unfortunately, the crash is very low level (in the .so files), so it's very tough to even begin to know how to work around it. I certainly plan to continue working on it, though.

raj3366 said:
I am still getting random reboots trying to play around hangout.
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I successfully made a video call using Hangouts to my phone for testing and didn't get any reboots. I know that's just one anecdote, but if I recall, GTalk's video/voice didn't work very well for some on Kinology 2 either.

JulianPaoloThiry said:
I can make an updater zip that replaces Hangouts with Talk. Will probably post it tomorrow sometime.
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That would be awesome. I tried replacing the Hangouts.apk with Talk.apk in the google update zip. But the signature (SHA1-digest) had to be updated in META-INF/CERT.SF and META-INF/MANIFEST.MF files. So I could not get it working.
I had very good success rate using GTalk in Kinology 2.0. I guess my mileage varies. But having GTalk gives me the freedom to upgrade to Hangouts or stay with GTalk depending on whichever works. Again, that's just my personal opinion.
Thanks for looking into this Julian. I am sending this Kindle to my parents so that I could chat over Video call. I have to get it stabilized before that. They are not tech-savy.
So far I am not seeing any other issues. I will report back, if I run into any.
I can't thank you enough for doing this.:good:

JulianPaoloThiry said:
This bugs me a lot, too. I'm not sure if there will be a solution. Unfortunately, the crash is very low level (in the .so files), so it's very tough to even begin to know how to work around it. I certainly plan to continue working on it, though.
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Alright, thanks. I've always really liked Kinology, but the gapps and lockscreen issues were its downfall for me. Are these fixed yet? In the previous build, gapps constantly crashes (especially chrome), and the lockscreen would randomly disappear.

There is now a download available to rollback from Google Hangouts to Google Talk. Be aware that your launcher's caching may cause the icon and/or name of Hangouts to remain unchanged. Be sure to actually launch the app and check it before claiming that the rollback did not work.
Edit: Hmmmm. Hold off downloading that. I can't seem to find the voice/video options at all now.
Edit: False alarm. Turns out that Google Talk cannot voice/video chat with Google Hangouts users. So if your friends upgrade and you do not, you're SOL. There's nothing wrong with the rollback package, so use it if you like.

GreyGeist said:
the gapps and lockscreen issues were its downfall for me. Are these fixed yet? In the previous build, gapps constantly crashes (especially chrome), and the lockscreen would randomly disappear.
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... no one reported either of those issues previously...
I've used Kinology since it was released and have not seen them. I must admit, however, that I have the lock screen disabled (my Kindle never leaves the house and has a book-like cover), so I wouldn't have noticed that one.
I do use Chrome and most other Google apps, and can't recall them ever crashing. Capturing a logcat dump immediately after a crash and sending it to me is the best way to get that sort of thing identified. The only other workable alternative is to report reproducible steps that always result in a crash.

JulianPaoloThiry said:
There is now a download available to rollback from Google Hangouts to Google Talk. Be aware that your launcher's caching may cause the icon and/or name of Hangouts to remain unchanged. Be sure to actually launch the app and check it before claiming that the rollback did not work.
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Thanks a lot. That solves my problem. I will try it tonight when I get back home and update you. As long as it works with other google talk users, I am good. Is there procedure to repackage it myself? (if you update the google zip, I would not want you to re-package it every time. I would be more than happy to do it myself and share it for those who need that.)
EDIT: I just saw the size of it. I guess no re-packaging necessary. I just need to flash it as the last zip. This even more awesome. Thanks!

Launcher
How do you start up in tablet mode, not Kindle carousel?
Do you need a launcher?

Wind Dancer said:
How do you start up in tablet mode, not Kindle carousel?
Do you need a launcher?
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If you do not want to use the carousel as your default launcher then you will need to install an alternative launcher from the Play Store, such as GO or Nova. The next time you reboot (or press the home button, I think), your Kindle will ask you which launcher to use, at which time you can tell it to stop asking and just use the one you pick.

JulianPaoloThiry said:
If you do not want to use the carousel as your default launcher then you will need to install an alternative launcher from the Play Store, such as GO or Nova. The next time you reboot (or press the home button, I think), your Kindle will ask you which launcher to use, at which time you can tell it to stop asking and just use the one you pick.
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okay, thanks for the confirmation

GreyGeist said:
Alright, thanks. I've always really liked Kinology, but the gapps and lockscreen issues were its downfall for me. Are these fixed yet? In the previous build, gapps constantly crashes (especially chrome), and the lockscreen would randomly disappear.
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Odd, I never had a problems with Gaaps (Google Applications) although I have not liked chrome on any of my Android devices. . .Sorry, I can't compare with lockscreens -since I don't use one on my KFTT, but when I did it was never an issue. . . I hope this new version will be a stable, and dependable as Kinology2 -I am downloading now! (Thanks!) :victory:

Sorry to change topic but does anyone have the full build/version number for 7.4.5, it should be something like this: 7.4.5_D025_XXXXXXX
Thanks

Gilly10 said:
Sorry to change topic but does anyone have the full build/version number for 7.4.5, it should be something like this: 7.4.5_D025_XXXXXXX
Thanks
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4513120

I cat find the update file anywhere the one i found will not manually update. Could you send me the stock update file for 7.4.5. I like to be up to date as much as i can but amazon is not posting this update on there web site and my auto update is not updating to 7.4.5
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Hinzman420 said:
I cat find the update file anywhere the one i found will not manually update. Could you send me the stock update file for 7.4.5. I like to be up to date as much as i can but amazon is not posting this update on there web site and my auto update is not updating to 7.4.5
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I downloaded this 7.4.5 file but since I'm not on stock Amazon OS I can't test it to see if it'll update properly, also supposedly Adobe Flash doesn't play nice with this build.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/kindle-fire-updates/update-kindle-7.4.5_D025_4513120.bin

Error -400 Google Play Store

As you can see in the picture I have an error!
Is there any fix for it?
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Mine has also stopped working but not given a fault code.. Says downloading but no progress

mattan1999 said:
As you can see in the picture I have an error!
Is there any fix for it?
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Try any of the method mentioned in this blog:
http://ahwee321.blogspot.in/2013/10/how-to-fix-play-store-download-error.html?m=1
dchd310870 said:
Mine has also stopped working but not given a fault code.. Says downloading but no progress
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It happened to me several times when WiFi or mobile data connection disconnects several times when download in progress and download manager just says downloading and shows no progress at all. Only way to solve this is cancel download and start again
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I've tried them. None work. Either my app has stopped working or my data isn't working. Although I've cleared caches of the service and the app, cleared data and reinstalled the app with the brand new updates. Nothing has worked

dchd310870 said:
I've tried them. None work. Either my app has stopped working or my data isn't working. Although I've cleared caches of the service and the app, cleared data and reinstalled the app with the brand new updates. Nothing has worked
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Just clear data and cache for download manager under settings/apps or applications/all

Well now i have the same Problem.... Someone finally found a working solution? I am just tired from trying several "fixes" that should have worked. I am at the end. I need help. I have this problem only when I try to install a theme on cyanogenmod 11 snapshot 9 or icon packs. Pls help.
Thank you in advance!
P.S. ok i checked something, and for some reason i can not install any Themes. I am using CM 11 M9 with Go Launcher Pro, Using Xposed with XBlast Tools and some other little tools, but i did not had any problems before. It just happened, and i did not changed anything. Someone got any ideas how to fix that?

If Google Play services is updated try uninstall updates

Same problem here. Tried everything above..
CM11 nightly 20140928.
I can install some themes but most of them bring up error -400.

I guess it has something to do if a keyboard skin is also in there or not. I wanted to install the MIOS FREE - CM11 theme, but the actual update contains a "themed keyboard Latin". I am using the google keyboard from the gapps stock package. Could that be the problem? I installed another icon pack without problems (the FLAT - ICON PACK from the same guy), but the ones with keyboard thingy don't work. Someone got any solution?
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kazuya_kun said:
I guess it has something to do if a keyboard skin is also in there or not. I wanted to install the MIOS FREE - CM11 theme, but the actual update contains a "themed keyboard Latin". I am using the google keyboard from the gapps stock package. Could that be the problem? I installed another icon pack without problems (the FLAT - ICON PACK from the same guy), but the ones with keyboard thingy don't work. Someone got any solution?
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I have the same problem on the same device with the same theme. Before update of 1st october theme installs good and working good. When come update and i push update button, play market bring me error -400. I tried to uninstall it and install again, but error won't disappear. I had read troubleshooting guides including those in this thread, but they doesn't work for me. I noticed, that the theme appears in installed apps, with strange icon and size equal zero (see screenshot).
I have old version of theme (1.8) backuped with Titanium Backup, it restores theme without error, but still theme don't updates. I want to try install theme from .apk file, but i can't find it latest version.
I hope, the problem will be solved in some day.
My device is I9300 with the last CM11 nightly.
Sorry for my english, i using google translate.

We need help
Polotenchick said:
I have the same problem on the same device with the same theme. Before update of 1st october theme installs good and working good. When come update and i push update button, play market bring me error -400. I tried to uninstall it and install again, but error won't disappear. I had read troubleshooting guides including those in this thread, but they doesn't work for me. I noticed, that the theme appears in installed apps, with strange icon and size equal zero (see screenshot).
I have old version of theme (1.8) backuped with Titanium Backup, it restores theme without error, but still theme don't updates. I want to try install theme from .apk file, but i can't find it latest version.
I hope, the problem will be solved in some day.
My device is I9300 with the last CM11 nightly.
Sorry for my english, i using google translate.
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well i have downloaded the newest version (the apk file) from the play store through some program. but trying to install it also results in a fail. Someone here to help us?

It's all very strange. I update my device to today's nightly ( cm-11-20141003-NIGHTLY). In changelog there are changes in themeservice (see screenshot). I thought that now all be ok, but it doesn't, Mios free theme still don't installs. But now error looks different (see screenshot #2). Other themes installs without error, for example Obsidian theme (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cyanogenmod.obsidian), which have theme for google keyboard. I'm think the last hope is to email developer of the mios theme, maybe he prompts something.

Polotenchick said:
It's all very strange. I update my device to today's nightly ( cm-11-20141003-NIGHTLY). In changelog there are changes in themeservice (see screenshot). I thought that now all be ok, but it doesn't, Mios free theme still don't installs. But now error looks different (see screenshot #2). Other themes installs without error, for example Obsidian theme (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.cyanogenmod.obsidian), which have theme for google keyboard. I'm think the last hope is to email developer of the mios theme, maybe he prompts something.
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I already E-mailed him, and he changed the keyboard in todays update (to black) but it still does not work. I Emailed him again and he told me that he will check it. Lets see how long it will take....
P.S. i am using Xposed module with Xblast tools and activated some minor tweaks, but even after careful checking of everything (the settings doe not have anything in common that could have caused this error) and also disabling the Xposed modules it still does not work.... that is really strange. But seriously.... Is there no one who knows something about themes in this section that can help us?

No one got an idea? Pls i really need help

try it
I learn and read many information but this error happen when your phone or internet had problem!
All fix way processing on your phone. try this way!
Problem
The download is impossible and the request is ''forbidden''. This usually happens when two Google accounts are used to buy applications on one device.
Solution
Go the Google Play Store with the correct Google account. Uninstall the application in question. Next try to get the app from Google Play again and click the purchase button.
2nd Solution
Clear the proxy you have possibly set up by going into the settings, then choose Wireless and Networks (or More) and then Mobile Network. Select APN, which stands for Access Point Name and hit Clear Proxy Option. Afterward you can always reinstated the proxy.
3rd solution
Another solution would be get erase your entire search history which you can do in the Play Store itself by choosing the settings button. Next, select Clear search history.
4th solution
Try creating a new Google account and using it instead for the Play Store. Go to the Google Play, and select the menu button again. Then select accounts and choose the new Gmail account. Then re-install the app.

huunam0241 said:
I learn and read many information but this error happen when your phone or internet had problem!
All fix way processing on your phone. try this way!
Problem
The download is impossible and the request is ''forbidden''. This usually happens when two Google accounts are used to buy applications on one device.
Solution
Go the Google Play Store with the correct Google account. Uninstall the application in question. Next try to get the app from Google Play again and click the purchase button.
2nd Solution
Clear the proxy you have possibly set up by going into the settings, then choose Wireless and Networks (or More) and then Mobile Network. Select APN, which stands for Access Point Name and hit Clear Proxy Option. Afterward you can always reinstated the proxy.
3rd solution
Another solution would be get erase your entire search history which you can do in the Play Store itself by choosing the settings button. Next, select Clear search history.
4th solution
Try creating a new Google account and using it instead for the Play Store. Go to the Google Play, and select the menu button again. Then select accounts and choose the new Gmail account. Then re-install the app.
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i have tried everything that you listed and all other things mentioned in the internet already. But strangely enough, Error -400 is almost nowhere to be found.... really odd

kazuya_kun said:
i have tried everything that you listed and all other things mentioned in the internet already. But strangely enough, Error -400 is almost nowhere to be found.... really odd
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Happened to me as well. After some digging in, I noticed, my phone date was wrong. After fixing the date, the downloads started. Hope this helps someone.

[Help] GMS (sort) of working?

Hi everyone,
So although that I had made attempts to successfully install gms without any errors, I did not fully succeed in any of the guides. My firmware was 114 or 117 (don't remember now) and I tried several times with this firmware, as well as with 121 firmware (the only update I had).
So far, Google photos, Google maps, Google drive, YouTube, whatsapp, all work, however I am getting the notification "device is not play protect certified" when I open them (attached).
NEVERTHELESS, I do note foll:
- whatsapp backup successfully restored from Google drive, - Google photos sync and backup successfully between devices
- maps work (haven't actually navigated, but seems that everything is calculated properly).
-Contacts have synced with my Google contacts
-Gmail app works, but whenever I launch the app I get a banner saying "Google is having trouble with play services. Please try again", however I can see behind the banner that all new mails are there, but if i click the compose msg button, then I keep getting the error and cannot proceed.
-What I noticed though is that no any app currently installed on my p20 pro has been restored from play store on the p40 pro.
-i have NO notifications from Google apps
-Google search app works only for searching, I have no cards displayed on Google feed and it shows that I am not signed in, although all other Google apps have me properly signed in.
-Google Home does not work, since it does not allow me to sign in.
-Youtube works normally without any errors, actually I am also receiving notifications of newly uploaded videos :/
What the heck is going on? How come they partly work since my device is not certified and I am getting the notification page in all Google apps when they first launch?
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IMO you should factory reset the phone and try another method for installing GMS until you find one that works for you. I tried a few and this way I was able to made it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83303057&postcount=262
It seems it is not possible to have both notifications and play store working together, so you use Icebox to freeze Google Play after restoring your purchased in order to have notifications. Then use a replacement store like Aurora.
Good luck and don't give up ?

I have Google installed, with Google Play and notifications active (I don't know if that metod still works)
https://youtu.be/SrRW5ZcX1M0
A friend had installed Google on Mate30 pro yesterday and today from here:
https://youtu.be/VA-gyruGORo
https://youtu.be/J141DvUxIrU

I've tried both of these methods and both work on my P40 Pro with firmware .131. I've now updated to August security patch .154 and all Google services are still working fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fTIZFehwlw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA-gyruGORo This is the one I am currently using for the last few weeks with no problems at all.
Good luck and don't give up

sko4a said:
IMO you should factory reset the phone and try another method for installing GMS until you find one that works for you. I tried a few and this way I was able to made it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83303057&postcount=262
It seems it is not possible to have both notifications and play store working together, so you use Icebox to freeze Google Play after restoring your purchased in order to have notifications. Then use a replacement store like Aurora.
Good luck and don't give up [emoji846]
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Thanks mate
I tried many methods so far, the one you used, one from a German guy, the other from the Portuguese guy (video in English) but all more or less resulted the same.
What I cannot understand is whether I do have play services working after all, or not, since as I said, my content syncs, although I am getting the non-certified error. Ok, and I do not have notifications from gapss.. [emoji23]
So I am really really confused.
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Shymmy said:
I have Google installed, with Google Play and notifications active (I don't know if that metod still works)
https://youtu.be/SrRW5ZcX1M0
A friend had installed Google on Mate30 pro yesterday and today from here:
https://youtu.be/VA-gyruGORo
https://youtu.be/J141DvUxIrU
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I will try the second one, first already tried, thanks! [emoji3]
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potsykate said:
I've tried both of these methods and both work on my P40 Pro with firmware .131. I've now updated to August security patch .154 and all Google services are still working fine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fTIZFehwlw&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA-gyruGORo This is the one I am currently using for the last few weeks with no problems at all.
Good luck and don't give up
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Mine didn't work with that, or did it? I really don't know what to say. It's just weird, I have my content but I have this error and I don't have any notifications, yet everything syncs. Google photos sync automatically between my p20 pro and the p40 pro, etc
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potsykate said:
I've tried both of these methods and both work on my P40 Pro with firmware .131. I've now updated to August security patch .154 and all Google services are still working fine.
&feature=youtu.be
This is the one I am currently using for the last few weeks with no problems at all.
Good luck and don't give up
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How to downgrade? Some tutorial just downloading firmware with checking firmware approve or not approve. Is it safe to install with differen region firmware? Or all firmware just the same and can be installed to all devices?

dalfshiro said:
How to downgrade? Some tutorial just downloading firmware with checking firmware approve or not approve. Is it safe to install with differen region firmware? Or all firmware just the same and can be installed to all devices?
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No, it is not save to install a firmware that does not suite to your device. In best case it just can't be installed, in worst case you'll brick your phone. This is at least what I think and what a heard from other user reports in this forum. Do you have difficulties to find the right firmware?

thanito said:
Hi everyone,
So although that I had made attempts to successfully install gms without any errors, I did not fully succeed in any of the guides. My firmware was 114 or 117 (don't remember now) and I tried several times with this firmware, as well as with 121 firmware (the only update I had).
So far, Google photos, Google maps, Google drive, YouTube, whatsapp, all work, however I am getting the notification "device is not play protect certified" when I open them (attached).
NEVERTHELESS, I do note foll:
- whatsapp backup successfully restored from Google drive, - Google photos sync and backup successfully between devices
- maps work (haven't actually navigated, but seems that everything is calculated properly).
-Contacts have synced with my Google contacts
-Gmail app works, but whenever I launch the app I get a banner saying "Google is having trouble with play services. Please try again", however I can see behind the banner that all new mails are there, but if i click the compose msg button, then I keep getting the error and cannot proceed.
-What I noticed though is that no any app currently installed on my p20 pro has been restored from play store on the p40 pro.
-i have NO notifications from Google apps
-Google search app works only for searching, I have no cards displayed on Google feed and it shows that I am not signed in, although all other Google apps have me properly signed in.
-Google Home does not work, since it does not allow me to sign in.
-Youtube works normally without any errors, actually I am also receiving notifications of newly uploaded videos :/
What the heck is going on? How come they partly work since my device is not certified and I am getting the notification page in all Google apps when they first launch?
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So what I can say from my side, Gmail app works for me. And Google Home allows me to sign in. Anyway I don´t use this app, so I cannot say more about it.
On the other side I had problems with syncing contacts and calendar.. but I found a solution.
Maybe the "functionality" refers to the firmware, maybe the GMS installation is just not "perfect".
Any other apps, that don´t work for you.? I can install them on my phone and try, if they are not country related, as "food delivery service" you´ve mentioned?
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thanito said:
First of all, thanks vm for your assistance
You can try to search for "efood delivery" , but even netflix does not let me sign in, although their behavior is different; when i click sign in to netflix, i get the pop up abt the device not being certified, then takes me back to initial netflix screen. In the efood app, I click to launch the app, i get the error and then the app closes again. The weird thing is that efood is also in appGallery (huawei native store), so supposedly it should work.
To be honest, I love huawei devices for their build quality, cameras, battery performance and I have been debating with myself on whether I should buy the p40 pro (i really need google apps for so many reasons- home automation by using google home, etc), but I guess I am screwed; unless I make things work properly i will have to keep using my p20 pro.
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I just installed efood delivery, at least it lets me to sign in via facebook.
Concerning Netflix. It doesn´t work on some devices. I had problems with OnePlus and also with my Huawei P40 Pro at the beginning. Now it works (after installing through Aurora Store I think). I don´t think it is GSM related. For me it works. But there are some solutions in the app-section on XDA.

Flying Fox said:
So what I can say from my side, Gmail app works for me. And Google Home allows me to sign in. Anyway I don´t use this app, so I cannot say more about it.
On the other side I had problems with syncing contacts and calendar.. but I found a solution.
Maybe the "functionality" refers to the firmware, maybe the GMS installation is just not "perfect".
Any other apps, that don´t work for you.? I can install them on my phone and try, if they are not country related, as "food delivery service" you´ve mentioned?
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The installation is far from perfect i tell you that
Let me ask you something, so if you have a successful gms installation, i take it that after that you have to freeze gsf in order to have push notifications of you have normal push notifications?I am somewhat confused on this. Do you have to freeze gsf to have push and then to unfreeze only when you want to use playstore?

thanito said:
The installation is far from perfect i tell you that
Let me ask you something, so if you have a successful gms installation, i take it that after that you have to freeze gsf in order to have push notifications of you have normal push notifications?I am somewhat confused on this. Do you have to freeze gsf to have push and then to unfreeze only when you want to use playstore?
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No, I didn´t freeze anything. But as I remember it didn´t work from the beginning. I tried so many things and actually I don´t know why everything is working now. I should have written down all my steps . I think I also updated Google services. For syncing contacts I had to downgrade GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.
And I still didn´t recognize, if I get all the notifications that are possible. But I get them for my mails and all other messages (using signal for sms), whatsapp and I don´t miss anything.
If I understood correctly you imported your apps from your P20? Another idea, that there is a conflict with this method? I didn´t have this opportunity as I came from a non huawei device. I had to install all my apps from scratch using Aurora as well as Playstore especially for my paid apps.

Flying Fox said:
No, I didn´t freeze anything. But as I remember it didn´t work from the beginning. I tried so many things and actually I don´t know why everything is working now. I should have written down all my steps . I think I also updated Google services. For syncing contacts I had to downgrade GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.
And I still didn´t recognize, if I get all the notifications that are possible. But I get them for my mails and all other messages (using signal for sms), whatsapp and I don´t miss anything.
If I understood correctly you imported your apps from your P20? Another idea, that there is a conflict with this method? I didn´t have this opportunity as I came from a non huawei device. I had to install all my apps from scratch using Aurora as well as Playstore especially for my paid apps.
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Since I had nothing to lose (phone not being properly setup with gms) I restored my p20 pro backup via hisuite. All my data, even home screen, were restored, minus 76 apps which failed for no apparent reason, I just saw a msg that 76 apps did not complete restoration (I have more than 250 apps installed normally)
Now I am pairing my Samsung watch active 2 to see if this works, but as I see it, I will have to try again from scratch.
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thanito said:
Since I had nothing to lose (phone not being properly setup with gms) I restored my p20 pro backup via hisuite. All my data, even home screen, were restored, minus 76 apps which failed for no apparent reason, I just saw a msg that 76 apps did not complete restoration (I have more than 250 apps installed normally)
Now I am pairing my Samsung watch active 2 to see if this works, but as I see it, I will have to try again from scratch.
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Of course I cannot know but HiSuite could be the problem, especially if you restore data from a different device. Did you just restore app data or also system data? I´m not firm with HiSuite, but also with former devices I sometimes had conflicts by using backup apps - one reason I miss root.... but I knew it before and still happy with Huawei and the given solutions here on XDA.
So yes, maybe give it a second try, but please don´t make me responsible if you brick your phone ... Good luck!
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Or you try to reset all your settings first through the phone´s menu. Maybe you have also restored settings from your older device which cause a conflict now.

Flying Fox said:
Of course I cannot know but HiSuite could be the problem, especially if you restore data from a different device. Did you just restore app data or also system data? I´m not firm with HiSuite, but also with former devices I sometimes had conflicts by using backup apps - one reason I miss root.... but I knew it before and still happy with Huawei and the given solutions here on XDA.
So yes, maybe give it a second try, but please don´t make me responsible if you brick your phone ... Good luck!
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Or you try to reset all your settings first through the phone´s menu. Maybe you have also restored settings from your older device which cause a conflict now.
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I will try to start from scratch again today if I have some time to spare. Did you install MicroG as well?

thanito said:
I will try to start from scratch again today if I have some time to spare. Did you install MicroG as well?
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No, both is not possible.

Flying Fox said:
No, both is not possible.
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Meaning? Is there a way to install microG and have everything working without this trick?

thanito said:
Meaning? Is there a way to install microG and have everything working without this trick?
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I don´t think so. Maybe you take a look into this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...-to-google-notifications-gms-sketchy-t4142659.
Especially the first post will answer your question, and also #13 of the OP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83212197&postcount=13

Flying Fox said:
I don´t think so. Maybe you take a look into this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hu...-to-google-notifications-gms-sketchy-t4142659.
Especially the first post will answer your question, and also #13 of the OP:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83212197&postcount=13
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Thanks mate, it starts getting a bit more clear now[emoji16]
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I also noted that in my setting menu when I select Google account it just keeps loading, is it the same in yours?
P.s: yesterday I inserted my sim cards and got a notification for 154 update, finally.. [emoji23] (although I won't be doing the update until I get this working)
FOR the time being, with my device as is, I would say that I could use it if I had Google home working (my local food app suddenly started to work), even though I am getting the error page when I open apps, since it seems that at the same time apps are working. Any solution on that?
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Google Search App keeps updating itself, any way to prevent this?

Hey guys,
I just discovered that the Google Search App (incl Assistant) keeps auto updating on all my devices, although Play Store is set to "manual".
This shouldn't happen at all, find this rather shady.
Has anyone any clue how to block this behavior? I'm rooted, just in case you might ask.
Thanks!

You might be able to at least block it from connecting to the web using netguard.

@shaftenberg
Simply disable automatic updates of apps:
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Simply disable automatic updates of apps:
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Well, as stated in OP, automatic update is disabled in Play Store.
That's why I'm so annoyed because Google App (velvet.apk) doesn't respect the setting.
@SmawtPho20 I don't want to block the Play Store completely, that's not a workaround by itself
Has someone successfully signed velvet.apk so that it won't be recognized by Play Store but still working?
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I just have tried to sign velvet.apk with another key and installed it as system app, but it crashes then. This isn't a solution.

Magisk debloater module to debloat it.

Karma Firewall, uses almost no battery, freeware.
Or...
If you don't use wifi, set to update by wifi only

pl1992aw said:
Magisk debloater module to debloat it.
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Well, I do not want to remove the Google App - I just do NOT want it to auto-update it by itself. I mean, come on, the user setting is "do not update" and Google App and Youtube keep updating nevertheless. Gladly I use Youtube Vanced, so because of the other signature, auto update doesn't work.
But Google App force closes when signing with another key.
I'm using the voice search feature alot, this is the only purpose for the app in my case. So I need velvet.apk / Google App.
OR: Has anyone an idea where to get voice search only? This is baked in unfortunately as far as I know.

Voice search? Bixby's big sister
Just more invasive Gookill data mining.
You're not the customer, you're the product.
You know like cattle...

shaftenberg said:
Has anyone an idea where to get voice search only?
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Try Google Go ?

blackhawk said:
Voice search? Bixby's big sister
Just more invasive Gookill data mining.
You're not the customer, you're the product.
You know like cattle...
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Your post is not useful at all, please stop trolling if you don't have any helpful things to say.
Stumbled upon many messages of you in the past few hours regarding Play Services and Battery drain and it seems, you simply hate Google but your "advices" do not help as they are out of logic in the corresponding threads.
@pl1992aw Google Go does not provide a system wide voice messaging unfortunately, but thanks for the hint!

shaftenberg said:
Your post is not useful at all, please stop trolling if you don't have any helpful things to say.
Stumbled upon many messages of you in the past few hours regarding Play Services and Battery drain and it seems, you simply hate Google but your "advices" do not help as they are out of logic in the corresponding threads.
@pl1992aw Google Go does not provide a system wide voice messaging unfortunately, but thanks for the hint!
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shaftenberg said:
Hey guys,
I just discovered that the Google Search App (incl Assistant) keeps auto updating on all my devices, although Play Store is set to "manual".
This shouldn't happen at all, find this rather shady.
Has anyone any clue how to block this behavior? I'm rooted, just in case you might ask.
Thanks!
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Simply my opinion. You called it "shady" yourself.
So stop stumbling like a smuck

shaftenberg said:
Hey guys,
I just discovered that the Google Search App (incl Assistant) keeps auto updating on all my devices, although Play Store is set to "manual".
This shouldn't happen at all, find this rather shady.
Has anyone any clue how to block this behavior? I'm rooted, just in case you might ask.
Thanks!
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I'm struggling with the same issue. The voice-to-text was wrecked by the last update. Uninstall update and everything is good again. I have also disabled auto update on the Play Store and it keeps updating. All I can figure is that there is an update file saved on the phone that it is accessing. Does anyone know if it is possible to find/ delete the update file? FWIW, I am not rooted on this device (S20).

tacotory said:
I'm struggling with the same issue. The voice-to-text was wrecked by the last update. Uninstall update and everything is good again. I have also disabled auto update on the Play Store and it keeps updating. All I can figure is that there is an update file saved on the phone that it is accessing. Does anyone know if it is possible to find/ delete the update file? FWIW, I am not rooted on this device (S20).
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Try clearing the system cache.
Hard reboot.
SDMaid might be able to find/delete the corpse file on a non-root phone. I use the old Samsung 360° powered Device Care* to clear system logs which works well.
*firewall blocked due to potential CCP spyware

blackhawk said:
Try clearing the system cache.
Hard reboot.
SDMaid might be able to find/delete the corpse file on a non-root phone. I use the old Samsung 360° powered Device Care* to clear system logs which works well.
*firewall blocked due to potential CCP spyware
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Well, I cleared system cache and the app cache and it came back again this am.
Do you happen to know what directory the update file may be saved in and any clues on file name to look for?
Someone on another site recommended disabling Play Store and switching to a different apk app, which sounded promising. My main concern though is that I had already disabled "auto update" on the PS for the Google app and it keeps doing it- so either the file is already on my phone and the app is updating from there, or PS could be ignoring my selection...

tacotory said:
Well, I cleared system cache and the app cache and it came back again this am.
Do you happen to know what directory the update file may be saved in and any clues on file name to look for?
Someone on another site recommended disabling Play Store and switching to a different apk app, which sounded promising. My main concern though is that I had already disabled "auto update" on the PS for the Google app and it keeps doing it- so either the file is already on my phone and the app is updating from there, or PS could be ignoring my selection...
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I keep Playwhore package disabled unless I need it. It will constantly run in the background, at start up etc. I don't use wifi, my wifi is always disabled so I set it to auto update by wifi only.
Nothing updates on my 10+ unless I authorize it to. Updates are way overrated and many times not in your best interests.
You can try locking it down with Karma Firewall. On Pie and below it's valuable logging feature is full functional. Thank Google for the limited app resources change starting with Q.
Karma uses almost no battery. A great app.

tacotory said:
I'm struggling with the same issue. The voice-to-text was wrecked by the last update. Uninstall update and everything is good again. I have also disabled auto update on the Play Store and it keeps updating. All I can figure is that there is an update file saved on the phone that it is accessing. Does anyone know if it is possible to find/ delete the update file? FWIW, I am not rooted on this device (S20).
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Finally there is someone with the same problem Not that I like it, but now I don't feel that stupid anymore.
It seems, that Google pushes updates to Google App and Youtube regardless of the user settings in Play Store. But Youtube can't be updated automatically, because I'm using Youtube Vanced and the auto-update fails (haha).
So I suspected that a velvet.apk signed with another key would help, but this crashes immediately at start.
I haven't found a solution yet other than disabling Play Store, but this isn't a workaround for me. If you enable PS again, it will silently update Google App anyway in that short time frame.
I don't even know if Play Store is the culprit or the Google Play Services. If I had to guess, I'd tend more to the Play Services, but I really don't know.
What do you mean with "update file"? The apk to be installed will be downloaded either in a temp directory which isn't accessible without root, or it will be stored in the cache partition which you can safely clear in your recovery (Vol Up & Power). But I assume, deleting the apk wouldn't solve the problem as it has been installed already then.

Goggle Assistant and/or Quick Search maybe the culprit(s). I have both disabled along with Google Backup Transport and Framework.
I'm running on Pie as well as the factory load for most of the Google apps including Gmail and maps. I don't have this issue.
It may have something to do with Google account settings; there are many spread out in a big mess. Go through them all. I disabled most of them including Firebase and casting.
Gookill sucks.

Well, I am several days now without the app updating. Seems the solution was to disable the Google Play Services (not Play Store) app. Not sure if it is temporary or permanent of if it will cause long-term issues, but for now I have the voice-to-text interface that actually works good.

tacotory said:
Well, I am several days now without the app updating. Seems the solution was to disable the Google Play Services (not Play Store) app. Not sure if it is temporary or permanent of if it will cause long-term issues, but for now I have the voice-to-text interface that actually works good.
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I'm just curious to see if this held or not. I've been dealing with the same thing with my SwiftKey keyboard. The Google app completely ruins speech to text on it. And the more you roll it back, the more frequently it wants to update. I've been fighting it for months and so far the only thing that I found are suggestions that require me to root which I kind of grew out of several years ago.

It is working. I had it backwards in my previous post though. You need to disable Play Store (not Play Services). Disabling Services kills a majority of apps.
I use Swiftkey also, but I don't think it has anything to do with Swiftkey. Swiftkey just uses the Google voice-to-text.
Once Play Store is disabled you have to go the the Google app and uninstall updates. The only negative I have experienced is that you have to enable PS again when you need to download a new app from the store (expected) which will mean uninstalling updates again.

Disable Call Recording Announcement on Google dialer devices without PC/Root

Hope you all are well. At present, users of new mobile phones with Android operating system are suffering from a common problem. And that is the problem with Google Dialer's call recording announcement. When we turn on call recording the user on the other end of the call knows that we are recording his call. Google has introduced this call recording announcement system, primarily focusing on the privacy of mobile phone users. And that's what caused us a problem. Because Google did not put any system in their dialer to turn off this announcement system. Today we will share how to disable Google Dialer's call recording announcement system without PC/Root. So let's get started-
Follow the process:
First you need to install this TTSLexx app from Play Store on your phone.
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After that go to Settings- Additional settings- Languages & input- Text-to-speech output- Preferred engine. And select TTSLexx instead of Speech Services by Google. After selecting TTSLexx a warning notice will appear, now click on OK button to confirm.
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Now go to home screen & long-press the Phone / Dialer app. You will see some options, click on App info from here. Then clear all data by clicking on Clear data of Phone app. And clear all running services from the recent menu.
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Now if you call someone this announcement will start before the call connects to the other end or this announcement will start before you receive someone's call. That's why the announcement of this call recording will not hear the users on the other end of the call. Now you can safely record calls on your Google Dialer mobiles.

Thanks a lot

Thanks for the post... i was looking for this

Did it really stop showing the message, but does it really work? Because I'm not finding the recording files. All permissions have already been given to the dialer.
Another thing: could disabling (on PC) the Google Speech app give the same result? I can't test it right now.

Can it record whatsapp calls?

is it sure for credit cards numbers ? if one don't pronunce the numbers i mean....or the app can collect data in other way?

Is this app from the point data safety & security?

Hello, thank you mdjihad1993 but like other users I would like to know if the TTSLexx App is safe and does not steal passwords or other codes. I would also like to know if replacing the Google voice engine then the Google maps services, voice assistant ........ will still work or will be silent.

Jascha2016 said:
Hello, thank you mdjihad1993 but like other users I would like to know if the TTSLexx App is safe and does not steal passwords or other codes. I would also like to know if replacing the Google voice engine then the Google maps services, voice assistant ........ will still work or will be silent.
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After replacing the google voice engine with TTSLexx app others service will run perfectly, none kind of issue will happen with others services. But if comes to security issue, I am not sure about this, is it really stalling or not our password, OTP, search history or anything else..

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This app does not contribute in supressing the announcement. It is just a bug from the dialer. This app suppressing the announcement is just a lucky coincidence. It has been fixed in the google dialer so, now, even if you select the engine, you'll not see record option anymore, so it means google has fixed the bug in their dialer app. Even downgrading didn't help.

mdjihad1993 said:
Hope you all are well. At present, users of new mobile phones with Android operating system are suffering from a common problem. And that is the problem with Google Dialer's call recording announcement. When we turn on call recording the user on the other end of the call knows that we are recording his call. Google has introduced this call recording announcement system, primarily focusing on the privacy of mobile phone users. And that's what caused us a problem. Because Google did not put any system in their dialer to turn off this announcement system. Today we will share how to disable Google Dialer's call recording announcement system without PC/Root. So let's get started-
Follow the process:
Now if you call someone this announcement will start before the call connects to the other end or this announcement will start before you receive someone's call. That's why the announcement of this call recording will not hear the users on the other end of the call. Now you can safely record calls on your Google Dialer mobiles.
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Hi. I came across this topic because i have Android 11 and i need to record phone calls.
Is this ttslexx safe or not? I mean, does it steal credit cards information and passwords?
Another question...i have an old version of the app "google phone", does ttslexx really stops the voice that says "this call is now being recorded"? Has anyone tried to call a friend and check if the friend can hear the annoying announcement?
Please let me know
Thanks.

mdjihad1993 said:
After replacing the google voice engine with TTSLexx app others service will run perfectly, none kind of issue will happen with others services. But if comes to security issue, I am not sure about this, is it really stalling or not our password, OTP, search history or anything else..
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This app does not contribute in supressing the announcement. It is just a bug from the dialer. This app suppressing the announcement is just a lucky coincidence. It has been fixed in the google dialer so, now, even if you select the engine, you'll not see record option anymore, so it means google has fixed the bug in their dialer app. Even downgrading didn't help.
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GRAZIE MILLE

About call recording pre-announcement in Google Phone app.

Thank you very much.
I have an old version of google phone dialer app, if i will never update it, does it mean that the Ttslexx trick will work forever?
Please let me know guys

Hi everyone, my Google Phone app is up to date as of 03/15/22. The TTSLexx works great for now. The voice is still silent.
ADD: The Google phone / contacts and messages apps cannot be uninstalled, so no one has done a nice custom ROM for the Poco M4 Pro yet?

Jascha2016 said:
Hi everyone, my Google Phone app is up to date as of 03/15/22. The TTSLexx works great for now. The voice is still silent.
ADD: The Google phone / contacts and messages apps cannot be uninstalled, so no one has done a nice custom ROM for the Poco M4 Pro yet?
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Hi man, you say that google phone app cannot be uninstalled. What about deleting the updates?
For example. Version 1.0 works with ttslexx, if u update to version 2.0(by mistake or other reasons) in which they fixed the trick, THEN, if u uninstall the update and get back to version 1.0, will ttslexx work?
Of course versions are of my imagination, not the real ones.
One more thing please.
Have you tried to call a friend of yours, to check if they actually cannot hear the "announcement"?
Please let me know.

its not working on oppo reno 5 latest update color os 12 android 12

What data it collects?

Disable announcement without installing 3rd party apps

This post although helps, it shouldn't be in a device specific forum. You should move this thread to Android Development & Hacking