I recently discovered you can use web n walk with a pay as you go sim. The deal is that there is a maximum you can pay each day for usage of £1. This allows you up to 2gb of data per month. So you can get as many payg sims ( say 5 to allow 10gb usage a month) and it will cost you a maximum of £30 month.
If you got on contract with them, you will pay at least £20 month ( i have a vodafone contract for voice data, so web n walk pro would be the option ), but this will be capped at 2gb and if you go outside of their terms of usage, you will lose your whole contract (wheras you can just throw that one payg sim away).
Any thoughts?
Si
Just went in and got one! If you have a TyTn with HSDPA enabled it gives the full speed data. I am on Vodafone and have the 50mb pack which I go over on every month. I also have web n walk pro on a data card but I always forget to take the sim with me with me so this is ideal as a top up for data. Vodafone tell me that they are introducing new data traiffs on the 3rd of september so fingers crossed they'll offer something useful then
Phil
I'm not sure if it's a good deal if you are a light user. 136KB will bring you up to a £1 (0.73p/KB) which is around 3 web pages. Also data roaming is £20/MB.
Orange have a good PAYG deal, for light users - if you get their Orange World 4 for £4/mo for 4MB on top of the inclusive 1MB (if you top up at least £10/mo). Not sure if you get £1/MB if you go over the 4MB on PAYG (you do on contract). Also data roaming is £8/MB (same as contract).
o2 isn't so great - £3/mo for 2MB, or £5/mo for 4MB. Data roaming is £15/MB.
T-Mobile seems good for 3G since it's "unlimited" but you can't use it with your laptop, VoIP or IM.
Agreed - not a great deal for light users at all!
As for the usage restrictions... I wonder how well they monitor it. I've heard people are using the no pro web and walk with a laptop with no problems. Are they monitoring the connections carefully? Also, if you have a payg connection, the sim card only cost £5, so is easy to replace if one account becomes disabled for incorrect usage.
I'm holding out for vodafone to change their tarrifs - having one sim for both web and voice would certainly be the best solution (although I am looking into dual sim shenanigans atm)
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Not sure if you get £1/MB if you go over the 4MB on PAYG (you do on contract). Also data roaming is £8/MB (same as contract).
o2 isn't so great - £3/mo for 2MB, or £5/mo for 4MB. Data roaming is £15/MB.quote]
Also Orange do £1 for a day of unlimited browsing, so you can have your £4 for 4mb add on, and if you are going to use a lot in one day, you add the £1 bundle on, and at midnight, it will switch back to your remaining £4 bundle.
Works out MUCH cheaper than the t-mobile offering, but they don't support HSDPA yet, however this is supposed to be soon, but they do have EDGE in some areas.
O2 don't support full web access on PAYG data, only wap, however you can reconfigure a proxy to get around this, but certain things like Messenger and so on still won't work.
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Hi All,
What is the best Pay as you go sim card deal in the UK? I just need a UK sim card for three weeks. I'm looking for the lowest upfront fee and then cheapest minutes. If it had some data capabilities that'd be good.
Cheers!
Asda mobile is cheap for calls 8p per min and 20p per meg for data the sim card cost 50p in asda stores.But if you use alot of data virgin have unlimited data (well 25mb) for 30p a day but the calls cos 15p per min.
If you know someone under 25, get them to get you a blyk simcard. They give you £15 credit a month without you ever even topping up, and all they do is send you a couple of advertising texts a month.
Only disadvantage is its not 3g
T-Mobile had one of the best PAYG data rates, think it was £2.50 for 5 days and sort of unlimited. Been contract for a while now so not sure if it's still current.
i've been on tmobile's 200mb req smartphone web for $15 for a while and i realized it isnt enough. i went over many times. i cant afford the extra $15 a month for the unlimited smartphone 4g web. currently, i have a g2x on gingerbread 2.3.3, but before, i had a nokia 5800 on tmobile's $10 unlimited web plan.
is there any way i can get that $10 unlimited web plan on my g2x?
(i had to sacrifice the $10 unlimited from my nokia when i got the $200 upgrade price for the g2x)
thanks in advance for any answers.
Tmo rep here. If you would have updated your data plan recently to the no overage 200MB plan you would have been able to get unlimited with just reduced speeds after the 200MB. However, they just recently changed those plans back to overage after 200MB so now the minimum plan you can get without overages is 2GB.
If you are on a grandfathered contract right now, check to see if the Classic plans may be cheaper because the 2GB no overage data plan is only $20.
But in short, no you can't get the $10 unlimited plan back that you had (technically at least). You can always try having the retentions department do it (those guys can do anything).
right now, i have a $59.99 even more plan + 1 line (750 minutes)
i checked there was a $59.99 Classic 1000 plan.
so if i do sign up for that, i could get some type of "no overage" plan for $20?
This post will be divided into several posts for the sake of reading cimplicity.
Contents
Contents
Introduction
AT&T breakdown
T-Mobile and Verizon breakdowns
Conclusion
Alternatives for $$$-savvy consumers
Since AT&T announced their NEXT program (and Verizon subsequently their Edge program), I've wanted to do a comparison, but long hours at work have gotten in the way.
Last week, T-Mobile announced their JUMP program (just upgrade my phone), which allows two upgrades in a 12-month period. Since then, AT&T and Verizon have followed suit in announcing their own plans that allow a 12-month upgrade path. So, which is cheaper and how do they compare?
On the surface, AT&T and Verizon have designed their plans to look cheaper. They're actually more expensive as you now pay a double-subsidy. For this comparison, I'm going to use the 16GB iPhone 5 (the best selling phone in the US), and I'm going to compare plans that offer unlimited talk, text, and approximately 2GB of data on an individual line.
AT&T: There are two plans which meet the criteria. We'll be comparing 3 plans (one alternative)
Voice/Data/Messaging - unlimited talk is $69.99, text is $30, and 3GB data is $30, bringing this to a total of $129.99/month. There was no 2GB option, and using the $20/300mb option would incur too many overages. Alternatively, you could use the 450 minute plan + rollover minutes for $30 less per month.
Mobile Share - $45 for smartphone unlim talk/txt, $40 for 1GB of data, and $15 for a 1GB overage brings us to $100/mo.
T-Mobile: T-Mobile has one plan
$60/mo for unlim talk/txt, 2.5GB of high-speed data (unlimited thereafter, no overages).
Verizon: Only one plan, and it meets our criteria exactly.
Unlimited talk/txt on a smartphone for $40, plus $60 for 2GB of data, $100mo total.
AT&T has two plans that I wanted to focus on, with one alternative plan with lower minutes. The alternative isn't an apples to apples comparison, but it's not AT&T's fault that Verizon and T-Mobile don't offer more flexibility with their minutes.
Under AT&T's next program, you pay $0 down when you get a new phone, but you pay the full cost of the phone over 20 months. This would be a great deal on its own if they would remove the subsidy from the calling plan, but they don't. You still pay the phone subsidy, and then you pay for the phone. The perk here is that after 12 months (paying for 60% of the phone), you can trade in your phone for another $0 upgrade.
Using our iPhone 5 16GB example, you pay $0 down and an additional $32.50/month on your bill. Here's how the AT&T plans compare over 12 months with this method.
Voice, Messaging, and Data (unlimited minutes):
$0 down, $32.50/mo for the phone ($390)
$69.99/mo for voice ($839.88)
$30/mo for unlimited text ($360)
$30/mo for 3GB data ($360)
$162.49/mo
Grand total of $1,949.88 over 12 months with an initial phone and one subsequent upgrade
ALTERNATIVE - Voice, Messaging, and Data (450 minutes):
$0 down, $32.50/mo for the phone ($390)
$39.99/mo for voice ($479.88)
$30/mo for unlimited text ($360)
$30/mo for 3GB data ($360)
$132.49/mo
Grand total of $1,589.88 over 12 months with an initial phone and one subsequent upgrade
Mobile Share:
$0 down, $32.50/mo for the phone ($390)
$45/mo for unlimited voice and text ($540)
$40/mo for 1GB data ($480)
$15/mo for 1GB data overage ($180)
$132.50/mo
Grand total of $1,590 over 12 months with an initial phone and one subsequent upgrade
T-Mobile and Verizon each have one plan that truly fits into this comparison, so I'm combining them into one post. One again, we'll be using the 16GB iPhone 5 for this comparison.
T-Mobile separates the subsidy from the plan, which means that you'll be paying less for the monthly service plan, and you'll pay the full price of the phone, up-front or through a 24 month 0% financing program. As part of JUMP, you can upgrade twice at any time within a 12-month period by simply trading in your phone and paying the down payment for the new phone. Participation in this program requires a $10 monthly fee that includes their otherwise $8 insurance program.
T-Mobile Simple Choice Individual Plan:
$145.99 down, $20/mo for the phone (385.99)
$10/mo for JUMP participation ($120)
$50/mo for unlimited talk/text, 500MB high-speed data ($600)
$10/mo for additional 2GB high-speed data ($120)
$90/mo
$145.99 down for next similar upgrade
Grand total of $1,225.99 over 12 months with an initial phone and one subsequent upgrade
Verizon's Edge program is close to AT&T's in similarity, in that you're paying a double-subsidy. However, unlike AT&T, who requires at least 12 months and 60% paid off before your upgrade, Verizon requires 6 months and 50%. Their phone payments are spread over 24 months instead of 20. It seems (unsure) that you can actually pay your choice of $0 down, or the normal subsidy rate, which would get you the upgrade at 6 months as opposed to 12. We'll go with $0 and 12 months for this example.
Verizon Share Everything Plan:
$0 down, $27.08/$27.08 fluctuating per month for the phone ($325)
$40/mo for unlimited talk and text ($480)
$60/mo for 2GB of data ($720)
$127.08/$127.09 fluctuating monthly total
Grand total of $1,525 over 12 months with an initial phone and one subsequent upgrade
So, as a conclusion, here's the 12-month ranking from cheapest to most expensive.
T-Mobile Simple Choice Plan - $1,225.99
Verizon Share Everything Plan - $1,525
AT&T Voice, Messaging, and Data Plan (450 Minutes) - $1,589.88
AT&T Mobile Share Plan - $1,590
AT&T Voice, Messaging, and Data Plan (unlimited Minutes) - $1,949.88
Across the board, AT&T seems the worst, but to be fair, they give the most flexibility. They do not have a NEXT compatibile plan that offers unlimited talk and text with 2GB of data. So, I had to fudge their plans to give more data, or fewer minutes. Verizon and T-Mobile offer plans that fit the criteria almost exactly (2.5GB on TMO's plan), which is why they came out "ahead".
You can alter all of these plans to some degree. For T-Mobile, reducing the total cost by $120 ($10/mo) brings your data down to 500Mb of high-speed. I'm currently using this, and they are VERY generous with their post-500MB throttling. I've had no problems with basic tasks and web browsing, and even Pandora works with rarely a hiccup (while driving, no less). Or, you can go $120 in the other direction for truly unlimited data, and still come out cheaper than the plans from other carriers.
But for some, T-Mobile isn't an option. Verizon and AT&T are about the same in price between their Mobile Share and Share Everything Plans. Verizon's EDGE program requires a lower monthly fee for the phone to participate, so they will always be cheaper than AT&T in this regard. However, AT&T still offers their older plans, listed as Voice, Messaging, and Data. You can reduce the minutes as low as 450 + rollover, switch to pay as you go texting if you're not a big texter, and/or go down to 300Mb of data. Doing so will STILL cost more than T-Mobile's offering (unless you literally never send/receive a single text message outside of messaging apps). But, it will beat anything that Verizon offers.
So, what are the alternatives if you want to upgrade more quickly, but save some money? For AT&T and Verizon, the option is simple. Buy their phone on contract on subsidy, and when it's time to upgrade, sell the phone and buy a new one full price.
For Verizon, this is more costly when compared to AT&T, as CDMA phones have much lower resale value. For example, let's say that you bought the Galaxy S3 when it came out for $199.99, and now you want to upgrade to the Galaxy S4 ($649.99). Used SGS3s on Verizon are currently trading around the $200 mark. So, you'd sell it for about what you paid for it, bringing your 12-month cost to $1,849 after the cost of your new phone. The next year, though, you're upgrade would be at subsidy price, bringing your second year cost down to $1,200. You'd average an annual price of approximately $1,525, or, exactly what Verizon offers without having to go through the hassle of finding a buyer for your phone. So in this case, Verizon's plan is a fair deal. If you're an iPhone user, you'll get more money on your resale, making it worthwhile to sell and upgrade on your own.
For AT&T, you have the option of using branded handsets and unlocked handsets that have higher resale. You could sell an AT&T branded SGS3 for about $300. When you upgrade, you could opt for a lower-priced Nexus handset for $350. Alternatively, you can use AT&T's excellent new prepaid plan, which is $60/mo for unlimited talk, text, and 2GB of data. This brings them roughly on par with T-Mobile, except that you have to pay full price for the handset, and you have to sell it on its own. If you like T-Mobiles costs, don't mind paying up front, but need better nationwide coverage, this is the best plan out right now (among the big 4 carriers).
With T-Mobile, there's not much flexibility, but you're already at the bottom in price. As mentioned in the Conclusion post, you can move the annual cost $120 in either direction based on your high-speed data needs. You could forego the $10/mo JUMP program and just resell your old handset, buying a new phone either full-priced or financed through T-Mobile. Or, you could switch from their Simple Choice to their prepaid plan. They cost exactly the same on paper, but there is a cost difference. Simple Choice supports corporate discounts, while prepaid does not. Simple Choice carries the usual unfees, IE, fake taxes and fake regulatory charges, whereas prepaid only charges the sales tax associated with the seller (you can buy online refills from many sites with no sales tax). Our $80 Simple Choice 2-line plan costs $80 on paper, but after a 15% corporate discount and numerous unfees, it's $87.22. To get the same from prepaid, it's $80/mo flat from some places, or $87.60/mo with local sales tax. Prepaid doesn't carry the option of financing the phone, so it should only be considered if you always buy outright, and you have no eligible corporate discounts.
Good write up. Note, also, that in "changing the rules", I imagine that we might see cries of price-fixing, as there doesn't seem to be a viable way to shop a phone's price.
Sprint's upgrade program will be called OFF-THE in order to complete the sentence: JUMP OFF-THE NEXT EDGE
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Sprint's upgrade program will be called OFF-THE in order to complete the sentence: JUMP OFF-THE NEXT EDGE
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