Apps getting killed - General Questions and Answers

Hello
I'm tired of having my apps shut in my face because the system keeps killing them, or something...
I literally can't Alt-Tab from a browser to a notepad to copy a text, and the browser gets killed, and the page refreshes, and I lose what I wrote !*
And I have 3 GB of RAM, HALF OF IT IS CURRENTLY FREE ! I don't understand it ! Very few apps on the background.
The most up-to-date thread I could find was from 2013, when android 4.4 was still a thing. Everything there is obsolete.
There are suggestions, like Memory manager, or Memory Locker, or App Seetings (very old)
But again... Obsolete...
Also found some system managers that are installed via TWRP: Those currupted my system. Lost a day reflashing the ROM.
Althoug the idea behind them is good, I already forgot their names, and don't wanna hear them again !
Already tried full SDMaid on the phone, and trimming the NAND, etc
* Sometimes I think it's more a matter of behavior than memory. Sometimes it appears that the apps get "tired" and unresponsive... Then I reboot and they work better...
Is there a 2023 solution ? Any diagnose that can be done ?
Thanks in advance
Motorola G6, Android 9
TWRP+Magisk 26+LSPosed 1.8.6

LucasBS1 said:
Hello
I'm tired of having my apps shut in my face because the system keeps killing them, or Tutuapp 9Apps Showbox something...
I literally can't Alt-Tab from a browser to a notepad to copy a text, and the browser gets killed, and the page refreshes, and I lose what I wrote !
And I have 3 GB of RAM, HALF OF IT IS CURRENTLY FREE ! I don't understand it !
The most up-to-date thread I could find was from 2013, when android 4.4 was still a thing. Everything there is obsolete.
There are suggestions, like Memory manager, or Memory Locker, or App Seetings (very old)
But again... Obsolete...
And my phone is not new; it's Android 9, Rooted
Also found some system managers that are installed via TWRP: Those currupted my system. Lost a day reflashing the ROM.
Althoug the idea behind them is good, I already forgot their names, and don't wanna hear them again !
Already tried full SDMaid on the phone, and trimming the NAND, etc
Is there a 2023 solution ? Any diagnose that can be done ?
Thanks in advance
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What phone do you have ?

Hello. Updated the question to include the model (bottom). But it's a Moto G6

LucasBS1 said:
Hello
I'm tired of having my apps shut in my face because the system keeps killing them, or something...
I literally can't Alt-Tab from a browser to a notepad to copy a text, and the browser gets killed, and the page refreshes, and I lose what I wrote !*
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Do a LOGCAT to get the very reason why apps in question get killed.

jwoegerbauer said:
Do a LOGCAT to get the very reason why apps in question get killed.
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Alright
I'll upload the log next time this thing starts acting up
Thanks for now

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[Q] Bean Stalk bug

I installed bean stalk 2 days ago and really like it except for my swift key 3 keyboard loses its ability to do predictive text. I have to force close it and reopen it to get it to work again. It seems the problem occurs when i uses a text box that doesn't allow predictive text, then it losses prediction util i close and restart it. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing it. Is there anything that could be done or an i missing something?
Oh yes it also has really poor battery life, is this normal? too
easterly81 said:
I installed bean stalk 2 days ago and really like it except for my swift key 3 keyboard loses its ability to do predictive text. I have to force close it and reopen it to get it to work again. It seems the problem occurs when i uses a text box that doesn't allow predictive text, then it losses prediction util i close and restart it. I have tried uninstalling and re-installing it. Is there anything that could be done or an i missing something?
Oh yes it also has really poor battery life, is this normal? too
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The poor battery life is normal cause i have experience with that too.. You have to be patient and let the ROM settle in for a few days.. But on your swift key i suggest you use rapid typing style and change your "spacebar will..." to complete the current word. If you use those options it should work fine for you. But good luck :fingers-crossed: (Hit that thanks button bellow please lol)
Ringtones/Notification
How can i delete duplicate sounds in ( ringtones & notification ) ? do i use the explore an goin the system an delete these? will this crash the phone?
I notice as i was selecting my ringtone there are duplicate ringtones an notifications.
To help the DEV. i listed them from his latest rom BeanStalk-4.4015-20131204-infuse4g
looking in the ZIP FILE an open system/media/audio/
Ringtones in all caps ANDROMEDA , CANIS MAJOR , hydra , PERSEUS, URSEAMINOR.
Notification ARCTURUS, DOINK, VEGA.
Doink makes different sounds...
thanks for everyone thats help me ....
Thanks Scott for the hard work you put into this ROM.
Rickrocks013 said:
How can i delete duplicate sounds in ( ringtones & notification ) ? do i use the explore an goin the system an delete these? will this crash the phone?
I notice as i was selecting my ringtone there are duplicate ringtones an notifications.
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I don't think deleting them will cause any harm. Maybe you could move them to a different folder instead of deleting them, then see what happens and go from there. But I'm pretty confident that you'll be fine deleting them.
stoned_odin said:
I don't think deleting them will cause any harm. Maybe you could move them to a different folder instead of deleting them, then see what happens and go from there. But I'm pretty confident that you'll be fine deleting them.
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have you tried deleting them yourself or is this just some wisdom that you think it's not going to hurt anything
I've tried deleting they don't delete
Rickrocks013 said:
have you tried deleting them yourself or is this just some wisdom that you think it's not going to hurt anything
I've tried deleting they don't delete
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I've done it in the past, yes. You can add your own ringtones to it and they'll show up, so why wouldn't they disappear when you delete them?
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Ok so I did it again right now, just for you, and yes they can be deleted. So it is clear you're not mounting /system as rw.
stoned_odin said:
I've done it in the past, yes. You can add your own ringtones to it and they'll show up, so why wouldn't they disappear when you delete them?
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Ok so I did it again right now, just for you, and yes they can be deleted. So it is clear you're not mounting /system as rw.
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Failed to. Mount,,, I pressed the rw. Any unlock or lock - permission? Thanks I'm sure It simple I'm over looking something..Also to note if its not fixed then I will have do this on every update , sound redundant ,
Thanks again
Where are you doing this from (es file explorer, etc)?
Wakelocks and other small issues
Hey guys, just to input to what has been asked here, I had problems mounting earlier as well, but with root explorer (Rom toolbox) and the file manager that comes with the ROM, but it worked with ES file explorer when I deleted system files. As for swiftkey, I don't have it so can't input for that. Anyway here's my problem (sorry for hijacking the thread, but just posting here as well since there was a reply much more recently than Beanstalk Q&A thread):
I'm new to beanstalk ROM and recently installed the kit kat build posted on new year's eve coming from carbon 4.3. I have performed all necessary wipes (data, cache, dalvik, system) and installed Gapps posted by vaughn in the dev thread. I am just wondering if anyone has experienced wakelocks caused by android system, exchange services and google services? So far, when I searched xda and googled the problems, I only found solutions for google services and exchange services which were to turn off sync (exchange services) and location (G-services), but for some reason my system is still experiencing a wakelock from g-services and I'm not sure how to get rid of it...by the way, I clean flashed the ROM a second time (but wiped my internal sd also this time) to see if that would help but so far it hasn't. I've been running the ROM for 3-4 days now if that's important.
My other questions are does anyone have misaligned icons in active display and also slightly misaligned number in the battery ring icon (i think this was reported in dev thread) and will installing SuperSu fix the problem with V4A asking for superuser rights, but then when I try to install driver, it asks me to check if I'm rooted or have su binaries? Thanks in advance for any help!
I have uninstalled updates for google play services and it updated back and now it seems to have gone down in my battery stats. Now only thing left is android system.

[Q] How to prevent Task Manager from ever killing a particular app?

Recently, for the first time, I tried to use an app to track a sports activity (MapMyRide). I find that sometimes the app will get killed out of memory, I assume by the Task Manager. It's surprising, because on my OnePlus One with its 3GB RAM, I've almost never seen anything killed by the Task Manager (as compared to every older, lesser Android device I've used, where the Task Managers tended to be fairly vicious).
The MapMyRide app has the 'prevent the device from sleeping' permission.
Is there a way to tell the OnePlus One (CM12, rev YNG1TAS17L) Task Manager to NEVER kill this particular app (without installing an add-on framework like Xposed)?
thanks,
libove said:
Recently, for the first time, I tried to use an app to track a sports activity (MapMyRide). I find that sometimes the app will get killed out of memory, I assume by the Task Manager. It's surprising, because on my OnePlus One with its 3GB RAM, I've almost never seen anything killed by the Task Manager (as compared to every older, lesser Android device I've used, where the Task Managers tended to be fairly vicious).
The MapMyRide app has the 'prevent the device from sleeping' permission.
Is there a way to tell the OnePlus One (CM12, rev YNG1TAS17L) Task Manager to NEVER kill this particular app (without installing an add-on framework like Xposed)?
thanks,
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Arey you using any task killing apps or greenify?
venky61 said:
Arey you using any task killing apps or greenify?
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Hi venky61, no - no task killing apps or any other configuration changes from default OnePlus One CM12.0 for memory management. My experience with my OnePlus One is that it almost never knocks anything out of memory. (With 3GB RAM, and good battery life, I guess it doesn't really need to). Which is why it seems strange that this particular app does get knocked out.
thanks,
libove said:
Hi venky61, no - no task killing apps or any other configuration changes from default OnePlus One CM12.0 for memory management. My experience with my OnePlus One is that it almost never knocks anything out of memory. (With 3GB RAM, and good battery life, I guess it doesn't really need to). Which is why it seems strange that this particular app does get knocked out.
thanks,
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Yes exactly. The memory management is really good on OPO. It never kills any app.
Try these things in sequence. One of it should help.
1. Restart the device and check.
2. uninstall and install the app and check. Lastly,
3. Go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik once.
venky61 said:
Yes exactly. The memory management is really good on OPO. It never kills any app.
Try these things in sequence. One of it should help.
1. Restart the device and check.
2. uninstall and install the app and check. Lastly,
3. Go to recovery and wipe cache and dalvik once.
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Hi again. I had already done the restart and the uninstall/reinstall, to no effect; I've now tried the last option - rebooted into TWRP recovery and selected the wipe Dalvik and cache; I note that TWRP gave an error: it insisted on asking for a password (my phone is encrypted), but that shouldn't matter as - as far as I understand it - neither Dalvik nor cache is encrypted, just user data. Anyway, it wiped whatever it was going to wipe (and it did do something, because on the bootup just after I got the typical-after-wiping-Dalvik "upgrading..." message), and now I'm making on more test. My guess is that the MapMyRide app will still get kicked out of memory... we'll see! Nope, still got kicked out.
Any next suggestions? My theory rests on the possibility (in my ignorance, I admit) that maybe CM12 / its underlying Android 5.x base needs some extra/special permission to be granted to an app to allow the app to instruct the Task Manager to never kill it. Does such a permission even exist? What is the "correct" way for an app and Task Managers to agree that an app is high(er/est) priority and shouldn't be kicked out unless the device is dying?
thanks again,
libove said:
Hi again. I had already done the restart and the uninstall/reinstall, to no effect; I've now tried the last option - rebooted into TWRP recovery and selected the wipe Dalvik and cache; I note that TWRP gave an error: it insisted on asking for a password (my phone is encrypted), but that shouldn't matter as - as far as I understand it - neither Dalvik nor cache is encrypted, just user data. Anyway, it wiped whatever it was going to wipe (and it did do something, because on the bootup just after I got the typical-after-wiping-Dalvik "upgrading..." message), and now I'm making on more test. My guess is that the MapMyRide app will still get kicked out of memory... we'll see! Nope, still got kicked out.
Any next suggestions? My theory rests on the possibility (in my ignorance, I admit) that maybe CM12 / its underlying Android 5.x base needs some extra/special permission to be granted to an app to allow the app to instruct the Task Manager to never kill it. Does such a permission even exist? What is the "correct" way for an app and Task Managers to agree that an app is high(er/est) priority and shouldn't be kicked out unless the device is dying?
thanks again,
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Hi,
Thats so abnormal that I heard to happen with Oneplus one. Try this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&hl=en
Might be helpful to control the ram management.
venky61 said:
Hi,
Thats so abnormal that I heard to happen with Oneplus one. Try this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lim.android.automemman&hl=en
Might be helpful to control the ram management.
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Hi Venky,
I have two questions about the AutoMemMan app. One is that the app's page says that it does not work with Android 5, and OnePlus One CM12.0 is Android 5, so I hesitate to try it anyway.
But two, perhaps more important, is that I don't see from reading about AutoMemMan how it would help prevent the built-in task manager from killing this app.
Aside from the above, I am doing another test now, monitoring the MapMyRide app's memory use, using the built-in Settings -> Apps, select the MapMyRide app, to see if maybe it has a memory leak, which would of course cause it to be killed eventually.
Just now, I have recently started the test. The app began with 82MB of memory in use, and five minutes later is now using 85MB. The phone has 1,5GB RAM free So this may take a while
libove said:
Hi Venky,
I have two questions about the AutoMemMan app. One is that the app's page says that it does not work with Android 5, and OnePlus One CM12.0 is Android 5, so I hesitate to try it anyway.
But two, perhaps more important, is that I don't see from reading about AutoMemMan how it would help prevent the built-in task manager from killing this app.
Aside from the above, I am doing another test now, monitoring the MapMyRide app's memory use, using the built-in Settings -> Apps, select the MapMyRide app, to see if maybe it has a memory leak, which would of course cause it to be killed eventually.
Just now, I have recently started the test. The app began with 82MB of memory in use, and five minutes later is now using 85MB. The phone has 1,5GB RAM free So this may take a while
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My bad... I have linked a wrong app. I was supposed to send this. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.memory.manager&hl=en
I tried this and it gives an option to control the values for foreground and also has an option to selectively make an individual app ignore the memory management I guess as far I could understand. (Task Manager) One more reason to suggest it was to check if the app is given priority stage for memory management or not.
Now as you mentioned memory leak, If your phone has posed, there is a module to fix it. Try it http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.thetonyp.fixlollipopmemoryleak
Hope it gets solved soon for u
Hi Navi, yes, that "Memory Manager" by JRummy Apps does look promising.
Sad truth is I've just given up on this for now - I so rarely use the feature that it's not worth trying to debug further. Maybe next time I plan to use the feature I'll first load Memory Manager and see if it helps.
Many thanks for all the advice!

Samsung Galaxy always becomes slow and laggy

Hey guys
i need some tips or feedbacks. So ive been with the Galaxy since the S3, and each one ends up becoming the same. They are great when i first get them, then within the first 2 months, they pretty much turn into crap. The UI isnt smooth, things take a while to open, apps dont transition to another smoothly, opening texts,, going back and forth between texts and apps arent the best and i constantly get problems to the point i need to do a warranty exchange with tmobile.
Do you guys experience the same or are you phones super fast and fluid? Even with a rooted phone i experience the same. Whenever i test out my friends iphone, everything seems to be super quick and fluid, just not customizable and limited to what you can do
What can i do to improve my phone or this is just how these galaxies are?
Thanks!
Hiya
I find it's good to reboot every so often, and I also use the built in Smart Manager to Clean All, and I don't experience any lag.
I do run my phone pretty clean though and don't have a million useless Apps which does tend to slow it down.
Reboot and use the smart manager from time to time and you should be good to go. I also find that using Package Disabler, Nova Launcher and Anti virus Apps SLOW DOWN my phone and make it buggy and laggy.
I have now wiped it and left it fully stock and it multi tasks properly and is super quick.
Jonathan-H said:
Hiya
I find it's good to reboot every so often, and I also use the built in Smart Manager to Clean All, and I don't experience any lag.
I do run my phone pretty clean though and don't have a million useless Apps which does tend to slow it down.
Reboot and use the smart manager from time to time and you should be good to go. I also find that using Package Disabler, Nova Launcher and Anti virus Apps SLOW DOWN my phone and make it buggy and laggy.
I have now wiped it and left it fully stock and it multi tasks properly and is super quick.
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Thanks for your response. i already do all that. I use clean master everyday to clear my phone of cache and boost it so all background running apps are closed. when rooted, i deleted all useless apps and bloatware. i do restart my phone but still, i face these problems. its just frustrating when using an iphone because everything is so fast! i just want to fix up my android to be the same but it always turns to ****. im now facing a problem where outgoing texts stays stuck on sending and doesnt go through so now i have to use a third party messaging app.
danman987 said:
Thanks for your response. i already do all that. I use clean master everyday to clear my phone of cache and boost it so all background running apps are closed.
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Seriously, cleanmaster?? Delete immediately! If you're rooted, why don't you freeze the bloats? Use amplify and greenify combo! Can't believe a rooted user uses cleanmaster
Clearing cache every time is not good and results in stutters as cache is meant to make loading times faster and usually only cleaned if there are signs of corruption!
Your description looks suspicious
Fullmetal Jun said:
Seriously, cleanmaster?? Delete immediately! If you're rooted, why don't you freeze the bloats? Use amplify and greenify combo! Can't believe a rooted user uses cleanmaster
Clearing cache every time is not good and results in stutters as cache is meant to make loading times faster and usually only cleaned if there are signs of corruption!
Your description looks suspicious
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lol i didnt know about that for cleanmaster, im new to the whole rooting thing so i didnt know. i already freeze the bloats using titanium backup. also, i had to update my phone because my call quality was all messed up. i updated my phone to baseband version DOJC. upon doing that, my phone is no longer rooted. where are the best places to go to download new files in order to root my phone again. i dont want to use my old files and risk messing up my phone.
Thanks
danman987 said:
lol i didnt know about that for cleanmaster, im new to the whole rooting thing so i didnt know. i already freeze the bloats using titanium backup.
Thanks
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So if you're no longer rooted, you can't use titanium backup. No need to root the S6 as you won't be able to update and rooting without using custom roms isn't that great.
Use package disabler pro! It's enough. Put apps to always optimize in battery settings. Use a custom launcher like Apex or Nova. Update everything. Clear cache in storage menu and reboot. You should be good.
Try leaving at least 1GB out of your internal memory free, although its impact is not proved!
Fullmetal Jun said:
So if you're no longer rooted, you can't use titanium backup. No need to root the S6 as you won't be able to update and rooting without using custom roms isn't that great.
Use package disabler pro! It's enough. Put apps to always optimize in battery settings. Use a custom launcher like Apex or Nova. Update everything. Clear cache in storage menu and reboot. You should be good.
Try leaving at least 1GB out of your internal memory free, although its impact is not proved!
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no, i meant i used titanium backup when i was rooted. im no longer rooted because i had to update my phone in order to fix some problems i was having. When i was rooted, i used a custom rom, twisted sixx version 3. i want to reroot my phone again, but i want to know if i need to download new files again to root if what i used last time is ok. last time i rooted was in septempber so my files are from that time frame. If not ok, where can i go to get the new files i need to root again? also with your phone, is everything usually fast and fluid or do you come across the problems i mention earlier as well?
thanks
danman987 said:
If not ok, where can i go to get the new files i need to root again? also with your phone, is everything usually fast and fluid or do you come across the problems i mention earlier as well?
thanks
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Sorry can't help with newer root methods!
I'm completely stock and using package disabler pro and app optimizer. It's not buttery smooth like a Nexus or Motorola, but it still is a fast experience, i.e, rarely any scrolling stutters. Try putting animations to 0.5x or 0/off.
Fullmetal Jun said:
Sorry can't help with newer root methods!
I'm completely stock and using package disabler pro and app optimizer. It's not buttery smooth like a Nexus or Motorola, but it still is a fast experience, i.e, rarely any scrolling stutters. Try putting animations to 0.5x or 0/off.
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ok cool. i just installed it, looks to be the same like the titanium backup where i can disable freeze all the random apps. any idea why my texts are stuck on sending? dont really want to do a system wipe to see if that fixes it
thanks for you help!
danman987 said:
ok cool. i just installed it, looks to be the same like the titanium backup where i can disable freeze all the random apps. any idea why my texts are stuck on sending? dont really want to do a system wipe to see if that fixes it
thanks for you help!
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Np! Try defrosting some packages that as per your guess might be linked to the sms system.
Try sending through a 3rd party app like Google messaging app on play store and see if it works.
Fullmetal Jun said:
Np! Try defrosting some packages that as per your guess might be linked to the sms system.
Try sending through a 3rd party app like Google messaging app on play store and see if it works.
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yea i am using google messenger now, which works, just odd why the phone isnt. ill play around troubleshooting things and see if anything works. you know where i can find a list of apps to freeze with the disabler app that arent important? if not, all good, i appreciate your time and help, Thanks!
danman987 said:
yea i am using google messenger now, which works, just odd why the phone isnt. ill play around troubleshooting things and see if anything works. you know where i can find a list of apps to freeze with the disabler app that arent important? if not, all good, i appreciate your time and help, Thanks!
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Search 'safe to debloate guides' in S6 general and q&a forums and Note 5 forums as well.
Fullmetal Jun said:
Search 'safe to debloate guides' in S6 general and q&a forums and Note 5 forums as well.
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awesome, thank you!
Fullmetal Jun said:
Seriously, cleanmaster?? Delete immediately! If you're rooted, why don't you freeze the bloats? Use amplify and greenify combo! Can't believe a rooted user uses cleanmaster
Clearing cache every time is not good and results in stutters as cache is meant to make loading times faster and usually only cleaned if there are signs of corruption!
Your description looks suspicious
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Or he could use Kernel Adiutor and set Androids build in kill scheduler to free ram
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My little tips :
First. Speed up your android device by *not* installing any speed booster app.
2. Android is smart enough to force close background services when more ram is needed. And restart them when ram hungry process (e.g heavy game) ends. Do some research, it's a very very bad idea to manually kill background apps and services. Doing so will just decrease both your performance and battery.
3.Stock Samsung provided applications gives better performance and battery life. They also use ram more efficiently. try using stock launcher,stock keyboard, stock E-mail app, etc.
Also every other launcher that uses vertical scrolling will have lags. (Apex,Action,Nova and even Google Now Launcher)
4. Manually clearing cache is also bad idea. Imagine you put your charger on your desk to quickly access it when needed (cache), then someone puts it back to drawer every time :| (Clearing catche)
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Aria.A97 said:
My little tips :
First. Speed up your android device by *not* installing any speed booster app.
2. Android is smart enough to force close background services when more ram is needed. And restart them when ram hungry process (e.g heavy game) ends. Do some research, it's a very very bad idea to manually kill background apps and services. Doing so will just decrease both your performance and battery.
3.Stock Samsung provided applications gives better performance and battery life. They also use ram more efficiently. try using stock launcher,stock keyboard, stock E-mail app, etc.
Also every other launcher that uses vertical scrolling will have lags. (Apex,Action,Nova and even Google Now Launcher)
4. Manually clearing cache is also bad idea. Imagine you put your charger on your desk to quickly access it when needed (cache), then someone puts it back to drawer every time :| (Clearing catche)
Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk
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Thanks for the tips. i already use stock email, stock interenet stock everything. My battery dies extremely quick with minimal use, as oppose to when i had it rooted, which was significantly better. with minimal use today, its been off the charger for 5 hours and im already at 50%. i also dont force close. i just click that menu button and press close all when nothings being used, or are you saying thats not good to do?
i have mine for 10 months, and i don't regret it at all, i had a galaxy S2 and S4 before and i always said i won't get another samsung because of the lag, but this time i made the right choice...the phone flies through everything, loading apps takes no time, opening apps really fast, the truth is this is the first galaxy that didn't lag after a couple of months, at least not for me, there are sometimes some frame drops, but in general it's really fast, i use stock apps, i restart my phone about every week, the battery isn't that good, 3-4 SOT...so not bad but not that good, because this is a phone you wanna keep using all the time and then suddenly the battery die.....the truth is if i had the money now i would get the NOTE5/ S6 EDGE PLUS...because of the battery and big screen, other than that it's perfect....best screen, camera, the new TW is really good....
abdelha said:
i have mine for 10 months, and i don't regret it at all, i had a galaxy S2 and S4 before and i always said i won't get another samsung because of the lag, but this time i made the right choice...the phone flies through everything, loading apps takes no time, opening apps really fast, the truth is this is the first galaxy that didn't lag after a couple of months, at least not for me, there are sometimes some frame drops, but in general it's really fast, i use stock apps, i restart my phone about every week, the battery isn't that good, 3-4 SOT...so not bad but not that good, because this is a phone you wanna keep using all the time and then suddenly the battery die.....the truth is if i had the money now i would get the NOTE5/ S6 EDGE PLUS...because of the battery and big screen, other than that it's perfect....best screen, camera, the new TW is really good....
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yea im like you, after each galaxy, im like this is the last time im getting it, then im like screw it, maybe the new one will be different this time around. They all end up being the same for me :-/
danman987 said:
yea im like you, after each galaxy, im like this is the last time im getting it, then im like screw it, maybe the new one will be different this time around. They all end up being the same for me :-/
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yeah, but this time it's different, the phone is as fast as it was when i bought it....really fast, my old galaxy devices lagged when opening even the dialer, not to mention the gallery, takes 2 seconds to load...now it's instant....
abdelha said:
yeah, but this time it's different, the phone is as fast as it was when i bought it....really fast, my old galaxy devices lagged when opening even the dialer, not to mention the gallery, takes 2 seconds to load...now it's instant....
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everything for me right now is taking 2 seconds plus horrible battery life. now my texts dont send out using the stock messenger. going to factory reset my phone and root it tonight and see how it goes.
also i just updated my phine and saw theres video calling now. thats only to other phones with s6 correct?

Joying 2gb Intel problems/questions

So I just wanted to make a thread for these units where people can ask/answer questions specific to these devices. May help others as the info online isn't the best, including their own forum site which I have unable to access with a few weeks due to persistent ads...... ?
To get the ball rolling;
I have updated to the new official firmware with the new widget launcher, I like the launcher, well the fact that I have large icons and can have widgets on the home screen.
My issues are,
1) when I start the car (dormancy mode) I am trying to get tasks to run automatically (open rocket player, play audio etc.) Problem is there seems to be a built in task killer that kills macrodroid (which I'm using for my tasks). I have tried autostart apps but these don't trigger as the HU is coming out of dormancy mode and not actually booting. Anyone have a work around for this? If I could get Macrodroid to run I could solve the rest using macros (tasks)
2) Since the new update with the new launcher i no longer have Voice to text, i installed the google app but this caused the launcher to crash and only left me with the recent apps screen, luckily I was able to get back into play store from here and uninstall google app again which brought all back working again.
3) When playing a podcast (Bluetooth streaming from phone) and I want to change to rocket player to play music, if I just tap play on the rocket widget the media starts playing but I get no sound until I open the app, kind of defeats the purpose of the widget being there!
4) when I first installed the unit I had no problems with the illuminate function (headlights dim screen and turn on button lights) this worked for about a month and then for no reason just stopped, now if I turn on my lights the button lights flick on for about half a second and then turn off again, its not an issue with the lights as they work fine when I chose the timed option. I haven't checked my 12v feed yet as I'm guessing its OK due to the flicker, it will happen every time I turn the lights on.
I have tried reset, reflash combos about 6 times at this stage but always with the same results.
I know there are options to change the ROM but I would like to keep it stock for now just in case I need to return it.
fado5ster said:
So I just wanted to make a thread for these units where people can ask/answer questions specific to these devices. May help others as the info online isn't the best, including their own forum site which I have unable to access with a few weeks due to persistent ads...... ?
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I assume you mean the http://forum.carjoying.com/ forum? If so, mention that. Be concrete.
That is indeed annoying, but there are many hundredths of users on that forum without issues. Maybe your ISP doing something weird.
fado5ster said:
To get the ball rolling;
I have updated to the new official firmware with the new widget launcher, I like the launcher, well the fact that I have large icons and can have widgets on the home screen.
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The new official ROM?? Which one? The 5 March version? And did you pick the right one of the two? And which unit do you have?
Mention all that! This makes your remark/question useless as people trying to help first need to ask you that.
fado5ster said:
My issues are,
1) when I start the car (dormancy mode) I am trying to get tasks to run automatically (open rocket player, play audio etc.) Problem is there seems to be a built in task killer that kills macrodroid (which I'm using for my tasks). I have tried autostart apps but these don't trigger as the HU is coming out of dormancy mode and not actually booting. Anyone have a work around for this? If I could get Macrodroid to run I could solve the rest using macros (tasks)
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Search the forum. already many time mentioned. You need the NoKill app. Can be downloaded from here and mentioned here.
fado5ster said:
2) Since the new update with the new launcher i no longer have Voice to text, i installed the google app but this caused the launcher to crash and only left me with the recent apps screen, luckily I was able to get back into play store from here and uninstall google app again which brought all back working again.
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Don't you search at all? Also known issue and mentioned here on the forum.
fado5ster said:
3) When playing a podcast (Bluetooth streaming from phone) and I want to change to rocket player to play music, if I just tap play on the rocket widget the media starts playing but I get no sound until I open the app, kind of defeats the purpose of the widget being there!
4) when I first installed the unit I had no problems with the illuminate function (headlights dim screen and turn on button lights) this worked for about a month and then for no reason just stopped, now if I turn on my lights the button lights flick on for about half a second and then turn off again, its not an issue with the lights as they work fine when I chose the timed option. I haven't checked my 12v feed yet as I'm guessing its OK due to the flicker, it will happen every time I turn the lights on.
I have tried reset, reflash combos about 6 times at this stage but always with the same results.
I know there are options to change the ROM but I would like to keep it stock for now just in case I need to return it.
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Again: which ROM are you on? You should mention that. ROMS before 2017 contain bugs, so do they in 2017 but at least a lot less. So make sure you are on a newer ROM. If you already are, like you mentioned above, mention the version. That saves people from asking for the obvious. Before you post read the rules.
Look at this thread and this thread
First of all: Search the forum.
And secondly: Search the forum.
And third: Be concrete. Mention versions, forums, etc. You don't even mention which head unit you have.
I was looking but could only find info on the 1gb model and the thread about the release of the 2gb model.
Thanks for the info but you don't have to be a **** about it.
I missed stuff when searching, I couldn't access the joying forum, I thought saying "their own forum site" would have cleared that. I couldnt access the site to find out if there had been updates, at the time i was on the ONLY UPDATED ROM with the new launcher with customizable widgets.
When i found NoKill I thought it was for steering wheel controls which I don't have so I moved on.
When I asked about model numbers on the joying forum (when I could access it) I was made out to be an idiot too because "They are all the same thing" so forgive me for thinking that. Mine is the JY-UL135N2
Again, Thanks for the info but you don't have to be a cranky prick about it, this is a forum isn't it? Used for discussion and help?
I was only saying something like this with info in one place would be good, if its out there already then sorry, mods can delete and ill crawl back into my hole of idiotness
Yes, I was annoyed but I did give you a number of helpful links and be honest: you were not very exact in your phrasing.
And w.r.t. the roms: They are on the joying blog59 page which is also mentioned several times on several postitions in this forum, and you could also have found it from the "normal" joying website carjoying.com
Even though I was annoyed I tried to help you. If your phrasing was more concrete that would have been a lot faster. And you still don't mention which ROM you are currently using, so nobody can give you an exact answer.
You can be angry with me, but clear communication would have prevented my irritated reply.
I am on the 2017222 rom but will be updating to latest tomorrow, have downloaded just need to do the HU side of it. I can get access to the Joying site using your link and only your link, not sure why or whats going on as this includes the main joying site too.
I plan on updating, attempting root then install NoKill.
I am giving the info I have, I don't know a lot about these devices and although I have rooted phones and tablets before I have never done anything like this.
You did give me helpful links and I thank you for that but please don't be too angry with people asking questions. I realise you know how this works but others don't and are afraid of damaging the device. Before your link which I used to access the updates page I had no way of checking for updates as I couldn't get onto the page
fado5ster said:
I plan on updating, attempting root then install NoKill.
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There is no real need to update to the March 5 ROM if you already have the 22 Feb ROM.
The ROM is rooted. What you mean is that you want to install a SuperUser app like SuperSU or Kingroot or the like.
You don't need to SuperSU your ROM. You can install the NoKill version just like that as the ROM is rooted. You simply don't have the nice, userfriendly superuser apk on the system.
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There is no real need to update to the March 5 ROM if you already have the 22 Feb ROM.
The ROM is rooted. What you mean is that you want to install a SuperUser app like SuperSU or Kingroot or the like.
You don't need to SuperSU your ROM. You can install the NoKill version just like that as the ROM is rooted. You simply don't have the nice, userfriendly superuser apk on the system.
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So there is no real advantage to the March 5 ROM?
Oh, I didn't know it was rooted still, thought they stopped that on the 2gb devices.. I'm not even sure if I need root for anything, all I wanted it for was to get to the /system... folder to copy NoKill to. Can I get there without SuperSU app using ES file explorer? Am I safe to delete the existing nokill.apk in there 1st and then copy in the new file? It won't cause any issues not having the apk for the few seconds? (Probably a stupid question)
fado5ster said:
So there is no real advantage to the March 5 ROM?
Oh, I didn't know it was rooted still, thought they stopped that on the 2gb devices.. I'm not even sure if I need root for anything, all I wanted it for was to get to the /system... folder to copy NoKill to. Can I get there without SuperSU app using ES file explorer? Am I safe to delete the existing nokill.apk in there 1st and then copy in the new file? It won't cause any issues not having the apk for the few seconds? (Probably a stupid question)
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The Sofia server is loaded upon boot and stays in memory. So no problem there.
Best thing to do via adb.
Code:
adb push Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk /sdcard/
adb shell "su -c mount -o remount,rw /system"
adb shell "su -c cp /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk.old"
adb shell "su -c cp /sdcard/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0"
adb shell "su -c chmod 644 /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0.apk"
adb shell "su -c ls -l /system/app/Sofia-1-C9-Server-V1.0"
last command does nothing toyour system. It should only list the new apk and the old apk.old.
and then reboot your unit.
I know you are going to hate me for this but any time I've tried pushing files using adb I end up messing it up and bricking it.
Looks like the illumination problem was due to the car.. The illumination wire was in a different place to the joying connector, I repinned it and working now but still doesn't explain how I had it working fine for a month.. Really weird, had issues with 12v switched and constant 12v too.. Had to swap them around.. Seems to be Kia's doing and not joying.. Very strange
Macrodroid not running in background FIXED
Hey there! You probably fixed the issue with macrodroid by now but I had the same issue and I fixed it by installing Macrodroid as a system app. That did the job for me. Just did a reboot and waited for macrodroid to come up.

An "evil" APK inside the OS, that drives me crazy

Hi !
I am ex-owner of Nokia 7 Plus and new owner of 8.1. After a few days with this phone, i have noticed, that there's something wrong with multitasking and background services, that are supposed to receive push notifications such as Messenger. Multitasking is a nightmare as compared to Nokia 7 Plus or Zenfone 2. Phone closes running apps and cleans RAM too quickly/ too aggresively. The same thing happens to push enabled apps such as Messenger, Facebook etc. Notifications appear with big delay (up to 5 minutes). I have made a discovery and i have noticed, that Adaptive Battery keeps turning back on itself + according to https://dontkillmyapp.com the problem is that one nasty system APK called "Battery Saving" (com.evenwell.powersaving.g3). I can tell this APK is a troublemaker, because once force closed, problem is gone until next reboot. It can't be disabled permanently. It's frustrating.
The faster Nokia gets rid of this APK or fixes it, the better.
I haven't encountered any delays with respect to the delivery of my notifications. But I do agree that some apps are killed way too early whereas they should be kept in memory. Maybe they are just trying to find a balance between users who want more battery backup and those who need constantly running apps in the background. I do not mind closed apps, but all I want is a whitelist which ensures me that these few apps will never be touched by the battery optimizer.
I don't face any notification delays or anything like that,and apps over a period of time are and should be removed from background ,that aggressive power saving is from Google itslef not from Nokia ,if someone still wants to make it run all the time then select don't optimise from power options it should help
My kids have a 6.1 but don't appear to have this program in their apps listing, so I'm wondering if maybe it's been removed in a monthly patch at some point? If people are still having this problem, have you tried following the instructions on the linked site (dontkillmyapp) to remove it with ADB?
i dont face notification delay... all good
Supposedly Nokia removed the culprit (evenwell) from their devices, so I take it that all is good now? (I will be receiving the 8.1 today, so wanting to make sure I do my homework).
wrp2015 said:
Supposedly Nokia removed the culprit (evenwell) from their devices, so I take it that all is good now? (I will be receiving the 8.1 today, so wanting to make sure I do my homework).
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I dont think so any company can do like this.
light.apps said:
I dont think so any company can do like this.
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Well, I am glad I returned the device without taking it out of the box because bootloader can't be opened. Got a OnePlus 5T now, so a custom operating system can be installed.
Ok, thanks good for you.
wrp2015 said:
Well, I am glad I returned the device without taking it out of the box because bootloader can't be opened. Got a OnePlus 5T now, so a custom operating system can be installed.
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There is no such apk called com.evenwell.powersaving.g3 on my Nokia 8.1
It is easy to uninstall those aplications, i have a 7 plus and have uninstalled all evenwell cancer of the phone. Check on Nokia 7 plus forums, you need a pc and copy past a command and that's it.
razor17 said:
There is no such apk called com.evenwell.powersaving.g3 on my Nokia 8.1
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Maybe because you have already upgraded to Android 10, which got rid of this package.

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