I think the new Pixel Tablet does not have a GPS chip. Will it be able to use the WiFi and bluetooth information to give a rough location in applications like Google Maps?
Good question. I never had an Android device without GPS, so I also wonder which third-party apps won't be installable.
swieder711 said:
I think the new Pixel Tablet does not have a GPS chip. Will it be able to use the WiFi and bluetooth information to give a rough location in applications like Google Maps?
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Really? That sucks.
It looks like UWB will be used for detecting a device in close proximity like a tile.
Has anyone tried Google Maps to see if it knows where you are?
Try GPS Status, you'll be able to tell pretty quickly if it can see GNSS sources
Other than that, it's not advertised to have satellite location capability
Droid info reports No GPS.
However, apps like Maps and Waze accurately show my current location.
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when i'm at home using the Trans hooked up to my home wifi. Is the locaton based off of the wifi or my android phone?
E46M3 said:
when i'm at home using the Trans hooked up to my home wifi. Is the locaton based off of the wifi or my android phone?
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I believe it's from your home wifi, at least mine is. I think I enabled the option within google.
Doesn't the tranny have GPS built in?
UKseagull said:
I believe it's from your home wifi, at least mine is. I think I enabled the option within google.
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hmm.. so what happens if your trans is at home idling and you're out with your phone and your friends have you on their latitude? which one does it pick up?
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Doesn't the tranny have GPS built in?
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It does.
Funny thing, Viewsonic gtablet had neither GPS nor GSM positioning yet is was capable of getting exact location if tethered to Nexus One!
I will try if this still works with TF (positioning with GPS off).
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hmm.. so what happens if your trans is at home idling and you're out with your phone and your friends have you on their latitude? which one does it pick up?
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Good point, this has happened to me before and latitude showed me as being at home when someone was using my pc. You'd expect latitude to use the location from whichever device used the service last, at least I would expect that
I forgot all about the gps, I don't usually enable it with latitude.
If I remember right, the GPS coordinates are actually embedded in the wifi signal on some GPS enabled wifi devices like the MiFi devices. So I won't be surprised if the phones are doing something similar when you tether to them too.
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If I remember right, the GPS coordinates are actually embedded in the wifi signal on some GPS enabled wifi devices like the MiFi devices. So I won't be surprised if the phones are doing something similar when you tether to them too.
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I'm pretty sure my WiFi AP that I bought in 2003 doesn't have GPS or anything of the sort in it. Haven't tethered to my Droid X yet either. Yet when I pull up Maps at home or at work, Google knows where I am.
I believe they've gathered enough data from devices that have location services and WiFi enabled to have a bit of a database of what WiFi network is located where. That's not a bad thing, I'm just sayin that Google can generally know where you are based on what WiFi network you're connected to.
there is an online lookup service for gps coords for wifi routers. It is user modifiyable . Some how the coords of my router got corruptted and I had to go in and correct them when you location services based on router, the app goes to the lookup site and gets the coords. If not in database, wil not locate
cl191 said:
If I remember right, the GPS coordinates are actually embedded in the wifi signal on some GPS enabled wifi devices like the MiFi devices. So I won't be surprised if the phones are doing something similar when you tether to them too.
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If this is the case, I'd love to see some references.
Here's my understanding - Android devices generally have 3 ways of locating themselves.
One is cell tower triangulation. It is the least accurate, but has the best chance of providing a location so long as the device has cell signal.
Another is WiFi signal triangulation. Google devices (and Google streetview cars) collect data about nearby WiFi networks and send that data back to Google along with the coordinates where it was found (aka, all of the news story lately about apple and Google tracking people). If your device needs to know where it is, it can tell Google what WiFi SSIDs it detects and the Google servers tell the device where it thinks it is. This method is much more accurate than cell triangulation.
Lastly, there's GPS. It is the most accurate, but only works if your device has line of sight to the sky. It usually works near Windows as well.
If you go into settings>location on your device you can enable/disable cell, wifi, or GPS location. On my phone cell and wifi triangulation are lumped under "use wireless networks".
so tje navigation system is prety much useless on transfo when you are out on the road with no wifi? something dont sound right, or am i missing it altohether?
ipulaski said:
so tje navigation system is prety much useless on transfo when you are out on the road with no wifi? something dont sound right, or am i missing it altohether?
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I believe this has already been answered in another thread, but: if you have navigation software that loads maps locally (e.g., CoPilot), then you can use the TF without a wifi signal. Also, if you create a route using Google Navigation, it will cache your route and as long as you don't deviate from it too greatly (to where it would require update information) then you could also use that without wifi.
In short, the TF has a GPS capable of standalone use, but requires mapping data to perform navigation.
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Not to mention every other tablet or cellphone is equally useless without a data connection unless you have, as noted above, locally stored mapping software installed or a cached GM route. It's not a Transformer issue, it's a non-dedicated GPS device issue.
I'm not sure what the Device only function does in the location settings. Can someone explain? How is this different from using Data/WiFi to determine your location?
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I'm not sure what the Device only function does in the location settings. Can someone explain? How is this different from using Data/WiFi to determine your location?
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"Device only" per the description in Settings->Location->Mode only uses your device GPS receiver to determine your location from the signal from GPS satellites. It does not use nearby cell towers (Data) or nearby wifi networks (Wifi).
Having a choice lets you turn off various radios if you want. People used to do that a lot to try and save battery. Nowadays I just leave everything turned on - batteries are better, processors and radios are more efficient, and I'd rather have all the smartphone features working.
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"Device only" per the description in Settings->Location->Mode only uses your device GPS receiver to determine your location from the signal from GPS satellites. It does not use nearby cell towers (Data) or nearby wifi networks (Wifi).
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So in theory I should be able to use Google maps without Data/WiFi?
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So in theory I should be able to use Google maps without Data/WiFi?
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Yes, and I believe this worked fine on older versions of Maps provided you cached the map first (obviously you can't get the map without data access otherwise).
With the current version of Maps there's some debate whether offline navigation still works. To give it a try: to save the map, have the area you want showing, then press search and then scroll to the bottom card "Make this map available offline".
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Yes, and I believe this worked fine on older versions of Maps provided you cached the map first (obviously you can't get the map without data access otherwise).
With the current version of Maps there's some debate whether offline navigation still works. To give it a try: to save the map, have the area you want showing, then press search and then scroll to the bottom card "Make this map available offline".
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I think I get the function of this mode now. I'm gonna go ahead and try Maps and other navigation apps as well.
Thanks for explaining this stuff to me. You've been great help
I've got a problem. When I open Google Maps it doesn't seem to activate my GPS so my location is decided by the operator-network and/or wifi, and is not very precise. I've tried to keep Google Maps open for a long time but my location is never that precise as when the GPS is activated. Also if I log into Android Device Manager on the web, I only get a location with an accuracy of 1.5-2 kilometres so that's neither located by GPS.
But if I then enter a route in Google Maps and use the Navigation, the GPS is turned on and everything is fine. It's the same if I use Sygic GPS Navigation. I've got Avast Anti-Theft installed on my phone and if I log into avast.com and send a location command to my phone, it's also located by GPS with an accuracy of 5 metres.
I've installed 'GPS Status & Toolbox' and set the app to show an icon in my navigation bar when the GPS is used. And it's the same as described above - when Google Maps is open there's no icon but when I use Navigation the icon it's there.
I'm pretty sure that on my last phone (Samsung Galaxy S II) with Android 4.4.2 Google Maps also used the GPS and I've got a precise location every time, so my question is how to get it in the same way on my new phone (Sony Xperia Z1) with Android 4.4.4? There are many times I just want to see on Google Maps exactly where I am without using the Navigation directions to a specific location.
Michael B.N. said:
I've got a problem. When I open Google Maps it doesn't seem to activate my GPS so my location is decided by the operator-network and/or wifi, and is not very precise. I've tried to keep Google Maps open for a long time but my location is never that precise as when the GPS is activated. Also if I log into Android Device Manager on the web, I only get a location with an accuracy of 1.5-2 kilometres so that's neither located by GPS.
But if I then enter a route in Google Maps and use the Navigation, the GPS is turned on and everything is fine. It's the same if I use Sygic GPS Navigation. I've got Avast Anti-Theft installed on my phone and if I log into avast.com and send a location command to my phone, it's also located by GPS with an accuracy of 5 metres.
I've installed 'GPS Status & Toolbox' and set the app to show an icon in my navigation bar when the GPS is used. And it's the same as described above - when Google Maps is open there's no icon but when I use Navigation the icon it's there.
I'm pretty sure that on my last phone (Samsung Galaxy S II) with Android 4.4.2 Google Maps also used the GPS and I've got a precise location every time, so my question is how to get it in the same way on my new phone (Sony Xperia Z1) with Android 4.4.4? There are many times I just want to see on Google Maps exactly where I am without using the Navigation directions to a specific location.
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I'm having a similar problem to this where GPS is a bit inaccurate. Would love to hear peoples solves for this. Thanks.
mojito13 said:
I'm having a similar problem to this where GPS is a bit inaccurate. Would love to hear peoples solves for this. Thanks.
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Have either of you guys tried clearing app data and see if that works? Every once in a while I get that to resolve my issues.
Michael B.N. said:
I've got a problem. When I open Google Maps it doesn't seem to activate my GPS so my location is decided by the operator-network and/or wifi, and is not very precise. I've tried to keep Google Maps open for a long time but my location is never that precise as when the GPS is activated. Also if I log into Android Device Manager on the web, I only get a location with an accuracy of 1.5-2 kilometres so that's neither located by GPS.
But if I then enter a route in Google Maps and use the Navigation, the GPS is turned on and everything is fine. It's the same if I use Sygic GPS Navigation. I've got Avast Anti-Theft installed on my phone and if I log into avast.com and send a location command to my phone, it's also located by GPS with an accuracy of 5 metres.
I've installed 'GPS Status & Toolbox' and set the app to show an icon in my navigation bar when the GPS is used. And it's the same as described above - when Google Maps is open there's no icon but when I use Navigation the icon it's there.
I'm pretty sure that on my last phone (Samsung Galaxy S II) with Android 4.4.2 Google Maps also used the GPS and I've got a precise location every time, so my question is how to get it in the same way on my new phone (Sony Xperia Z1) with Android 4.4.4? There are many times I just want to see on Google Maps exactly where I am without using the Navigation directions to a specific location.
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mojito13 said:
I'm having a similar problem to this where GPS is a bit inaccurate. Would love to hear peoples solves for this. Thanks.
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Have either of you guys tried clearing app data and see if that works? Every once in a while I get that to resolve my issues.
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i don't know about the gps not turning on at all, but it is a somewhat known bug on googles end when wifi is used to help location services, it frequently causes accuracy issues.
try turning off your wifi and see how it acts.
Yeah, off wifi it's more accurate. But yes, rooter, just cleared my app data and that did the trick, thanks.
I have recently encountered more of an annoyance rather than a problem that got my head scratching. It is location and GPS related, so I searched for Galaxy S6 GPS problems in google, and I have noticed that some owners experience a lot of signal loss/searching in their phones. What I have found annoying in my case is that whenever the GPS signal is lost, Google Maps puts me in a wrong location that I have not been to for a while (around one month). I have lived in that location before, but I have since moved and no longer stay there. I have purchased the phone after moving. After a bit of experimenting I came to the conclusion that the building I currently live in blocks the GPS signal, since whenever I am in the balcony/near a window I get a signal and I'm put in the correct location in Google Maps. As soon as the signal is lost, Maps automatically puts me in that old location. This has also effected Google Now where I'm given incorrect travel times and directions, but not my weather location (set on current).
I have set 'Home' to my new location, I have also tried deleting my location history from google, tried a few GPS fixing apps, reinstalling Maps, and also installing other map applications like Here and Waze, which behave the same way and give me the same old location as my current.
At first I thought it could be a GPS hardware defect in the galaxy, but I turned on my old HTC One (M8) and it acted and behaved in the same way putting me in my old location. So it seems to me there's something in the Android OS perhaps since Here and Waze act in the same way. I also tested with the Maps app on an iPhone 6 and it gave the correct location although not 100% accurate. So is there anyway I can make Maps at least remember my last location before signal loss?
It is also absurd that my laptop can pinpoint my correct location while connected on Wifi while my phone with GPS, wifi and cell network cannot, which in conclusion seems like an android bug or something with location history in my google account which as I said already tried deleting the whole history.
Also note that the GPS and Maps work perfectly fine whenever I'm outside the building.
Google Maps has had weird location issues on Android since January or February. Affected the GPS accuracy / function of my Nexus 5 as well. I think the bug is actually in Google Play Services framework, not in AOSP or the Maps app.
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ab1983 said:
I have recently encountered more of an annoyance rather than a problem that got my head scratching. It is location and GPS related, so I searched for Galaxy S6 GPS problems in google, and I have noticed that some owners experience a lot of signal loss/searching in their phones. What I have found annoying in my case is that whenever the GPS signal is lost, Google Maps puts me in a wrong location that I have not been to for a while (around one month). I have lived in that location before, but I have since moved and no longer stay there. I have purchased the phone after moving. After a bit of experimenting I came to the conclusion that the building I currently live in blocks the GPS signal, since whenever I am in the balcony/near a window I get a signal and I'm put in the correct location in Google Maps. As soon as the signal is lost, Maps automatically puts me in that old location. This has also effected Google Now where I'm given incorrect travel times and directions, but not my weather location (set on current).
I have set 'Home' to my new location, I have also tried deleting my location history from google, tried a few GPS fixing apps, reinstalling Maps, and also installing other map applications like Here and Waze, which behave the same way and give me the same old location as my current.
At first I thought it could be a GPS hardware defect in the galaxy, but I turned on my old HTC One (M8) and it acted and behaved in the same way putting me in my old location. So it seems to me there's something in the Android OS perhaps since Here and Waze act in the same way. I also tested with the Maps app on an iPhone 6 and it gave the correct location although not 100% accurate. So is there anyway I can make Maps at least remember my last location before signal loss?
It is also absurd that my laptop can pinpoint my correct location while connected on Wifi while my phone with GPS, wifi and cell network cannot, which in conclusion seems like an android bug or something with location history in my google account which as I said already tried deleting the whole history.
Also note that the GPS and Maps work perfectly fine whenever I'm outside the building.
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I bought a case that was supposed to be a clear view but doesn't work and needs a proximity sensor app installed to work. It has the magnet and a lump for the chip. I also couldn't get a gps lock. Was seeing up to 6 satellites but not locking. I removed the case and got 17+ and a 3d lock straight away.
I came to the conclusion that my building blocks the GPS signal, but the annoyance comes from Google maps locating me in a default location far away from me whenever there is no signal.
Hello everyone,
Can anyone trace your real phone location even if you are using fake GPS apps ?
Sometimes when I run government-related apps, banks app, money delivery apps or even food delivery apps for example, the app asks me to turn off the fake gps I'm running in the background, otherwise it won't work.
To explain more, If authorities can trace your exact phone location through cell towers, why government related apps are programmed NOT to function unless you turn off the fake gps? Does this mean that FAKE GPS apps really hide your real location?
Thanks a lot
Solimann said:
Hello everyone,
Can anyone trace your real phone location even if you are using fake GPS apps ?
Sometimes when I run government-related apps, banks app, money delivery apps or even food delivery apps for example, the app asks me to turn off the fake gps I'm running in the background, otherwise it won't work.
To explain more, If authorities can trace your exact phone location through cell towers, why government related apps are programmed NOT to function unless you turn off the fake gps? Does this mean that FAKE GPS apps really hide your real location?
Thanks a lot
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Generally No.
But also as you said govt. related apps, they uses/traces your IP and GPS both for better service. The govt. has advanced tracking system. So, even if you are using a fake gps they can easily trace your real location without asking to turn off fake gps.
Also apps like food delivery and money transfer have good tracking systems so they can easily detect that you are using a fake gps.
Now, for fake gps apps like Fly Gps, etc.
Some of them work properly and some of them not. Also if you have a root access on your device then there are some apps that changes your IP and Location both for better work.
Yes they really hides your location but they can easily be traced and broked by any govt. or any good hacker.
Hope It Helps!
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Generally No.
But also as you said govt. related apps, they uses/traces your IP and GPS both for better service. The govt. has advanced tracking system. So, even if you are using a fake gps they can easily trace your real location without asking to turn off fake gps.
Also apps like food delivery and money transfer have good tracking systems so they can easily detect that you are using a fake gps.
Now, for fake gps apps like Fly Gps, etc.
Some of them work properly and some of them not. Also if you have a root access on your device then there are some apps that changes your IP and Location both for better work.
Yes they really hides your location but they can easily be traced and broked by any govt. or any good hacker.
Hope It Helps!
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Thanks a lot, very well explained.
Solimann said:
Thanks a lot, very well explained.
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Solimann said:
Hello everyone,
Can anyone trace your real phone location even if you are using fake GPS apps ?
Sometimes when I run government-related apps, banks app, money delivery apps or even food delivery apps for example, the app asks me to turn off the fake gps I'm running in the background, otherwise it won't work.
To explain more, If authorities can trace your exact phone location through cell towers, why government related apps are programmed NOT to function unless you turn off the fake gps? Does this mean that FAKE GPS apps really hide your real location?
Thanks a lot
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aiSanaul said:
Generally No.
But also as you said govt. related apps, they uses/traces your IP and GPS both for better service. The govt. has advanced tracking system. So, even if you are using a fake gps they can easily trace your real location without asking to turn off fake gps.
Also apps like food delivery and money transfer have good tracking systems so they can easily detect that you are using a fake gps.
Now, for fake gps apps like Fly Gps, etc.
Some of them work properly and some of them not. Also if you have a root access on your device then there are some apps that changes your IP and Location both for better work.
Yes they really hides your location but they can easily be traced and broked by any govt. or any good hacker.
Hope It Helps!
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Anyone know how to get fake gps working on iphone full process please and stable working. I need to know full method which includes what jailbreak is best, what iphone versions are best and easy to do. Also how to disable or turn off mock location detection. Like in andriod you can do it via smali. Please I tried looking for usefull info on the net everywhere but can't seem to find solid info. Cheers