WhatsApp no longer starts - General Questions and Answers

WhatsApp no longer starts since 07/05/2023, because it is not possible to update to the latest version as I am asked to log in to my Google account despite already being logged in !
I have tried the solutions suggested here, except the one that involves removing the accounts because the warning message suggests to me that the data may be lost.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve ?

Deleting an Google account is different from removing it from your device. When you delete your Google account, it gets deleted permanently from Google servers. So any data associated with your Google account will be lost.
Removing the Google account simply removes it from your phone. It’s like logging out of Google account. All your data associated with the account will stay on Google servers. You can add the account again on your phone or sign in from the web.
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As you suggested I've removed the Google account.
When I launch WhatsApp it detects the absence of the account and asks me to add one, but the problem remains the same.
I would like to try to uninstall WhatsApp and install it again, but I am afraid of losing all the data: if I make a backup of the WhatsApp folder that is in the filesystem under storage, then it may be enough to restore it in case of any problems ?

gldev said:
As you suggested I've removed the Google account.
When I launch WhatsApp it detects the absence of the account and asks me to add one, but the problem remains the same.
I would like to try to uninstall WhatsApp and install it again, but I am afraid of losing all the data: if I make a backup of the WhatsApp folder that is in the filesystem under storage, then it may be enough to restore it in case of any problems ?
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WhatsApp now saves all it's files, including media, in the Android/ media folder.
Take a back-up of that folder, after creating a local backup from within WhatsApp.
If you don't do this, and uninstall WhatsApp, it will delete all your WhatsApp media too. By default, WhatsApp doesn't backup videos received in chats.

TheMystic said:
WhatsApp now saves all it's files, including media, in the Android/ media folder.
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I would like to point out that the device in question is an older Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 SM-T311 with Android 4.4.2 purchased in 2014.
In my case the Android/media folder does not exist.
The Android/Data/com.whatsapp folder is present but it is empty.
All the data seems to be in Storage/Emulated/0/WhatsApp
TheMystic said:
Take a back-up of that folder, after creating a local backup from within WhatsApp.
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This is not possible because WhatsApp does not start ...

gldev said:
This is not possible because WhatsApp does not start ...
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IIRC then
1.
WhatsApp automatically makes a backup of all your chats every night at 4:00 / 2:00.
2.
This backup is then stored on the internal memory of your smartphone:
3.
On Android the chat backups of WhatsApp are stored on the internal memory in the folder "/sdcard/WhatsApp/Databases" and/or "/local/WhatsApp/Databases". There, in turn, the backups are in the form of so-called msgstore.db files. Currently, for example, there is msgstore.db.crypt12, which is the current backup. In addition, there are backups of the previous days, which also start with msgstore.db.crypt12 and have a date appended, i.e. something like msgstore-YYYY-MM-DD.db.crypt12.
4.
To backup the chat backups of Whatsapp open the file manager on your phone. If no file manager is installed, download MiXplorer. Navigate to the path "/sdcard/WhatsApp/Databases" and/or "/local/WhatsApp/Databases".
Here you will now find the file msgstore.db.crypt12. Move this file as a backup to another location, preferably to the SD-card - in any case outside the WhatsApp folder - and then use ADB to pull it to PC.

jwoegerbauer said:
WhatsApp automatically makes a backup of all your chats every night at 4:00 / 2:00.
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If the device is powered off at that time, the backp is skipped or is this done the next time it is turned back on ?
jwoegerbauer said:
On Android the chat backups of WhatsApp are stored on the internal memory in the folder "/sdcard/WhatsApp/Databases" and/or "/local/WhatsApp/Databases". There, in turn, the backups are in the form of so-called msgstore.db files. Currently, for example, there is msgstore.db.crypt12, which is the current backup. In addition, there are backups of the previous days, which also start with msgstore.db.crypt12 and have a date appended, i.e. something like msgstore-YYYY-MM-DD.db.crypt12.
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On my device all the data seems to be in Storage/Emulated/0/WhatsApp which in turn contains the Backup, Databases and Media folders.
The Databases folder contains the files msgstore.db.crypt14, msgstore-2023-02-03.1.db.crypt14 and msgstore-2023-02-06.1.db.crypt14
The most recent files in the Backup and Databases folders are from February 06, 2023.

gldev said:
This is not possible because WhatsApp does not start ...
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Most probable reason is WhatsApp has stopped supporting your Android version or device.
gldev said:
If the device is powered off at that time, the backp is skipped or is this done the next time it is turned back on ?
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Yes, backup would automatically run next time your device turns on.
gldev said:
The Databases folder contains the files msgstore.db.crypt14, msgstore-2023-02-03.1.db.crypt14 and msgstore-2023-02-06.1.db.crypt14
The most recent files in the Backup and Databases folders are from February 06, 2023.
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Those are the last time WhatsApp backed up your chats. Didn't you use WhatsApp for the last 3 months?
You will be able to restore your chats on a newer device or device with a newer Android version.

TheMystic said:
Those are the last time WhatsApp backed up your chats. Didn't you use WhatsApp for the last 3 months ?
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I used WhatsApp daily, but I always turned off the tablet at night.
Tonight I did a test and left the device on, and indeed in the Databases folder the files were updated to today's date, so it can be concluded that the backup is only performed at 02:00 if the device remains switched on.

In addition to Google Play Store, you can laso download the latest apk from the WhatsApp official website.

I forgot to point out that in the Android options, under Accounts, there is WhatsApp with contact synchronization enabled.
In any case, I'm pretty much sure that conversations are backed up on external servers, because when I access WhatsApp web I find the history of all old conversations ...

TheMystic said:
Most probable reason is WhatsApp has stopped supporting your Android version or device.
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James_Watson said:
In addition to Google Play Store, you can laso download the latest apk from the WhatsApp official website.
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As suggested, I tried to install WhatsApp by downloading the .Apk file, but I get the message 'Error while analysing the package'.
I also tried uninstalling WhatsApp, but it is then no longer possible to reinstall it from Google Play Store.
Although support for Android 4.4.2 officially ends on 24 October, my device is evidently no longer supported.
Never mind, I'll use the new devices I have, or maybe I'll try installing an unofficial rom to get Android 7.0 on this tablet.

gldev said:
As suggested, I tried to install WhatsApp by downloading the .Apk file, but I get the message 'Error while analysing the package'.
I also tried uninstalling WhatsApp, but it is then no longer possible to reinstall it from Google Play Store.
Although support for Android 4.4.2 officially ends on 24 October, my device is evidently no longer supported.
Never mind, I'll use the new devices I have, or maybe I'll try installing an unofficial rom to get Android 7.0 on this tablet.
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The message, 'Error while analysing the package', likely means that the latest version of the APK no longer supports your old Android system.

gldev said:
As suggested, I tried to install WhatsApp by downloading the .Apk file, but I get the message 'Error while analysing the package'.
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To fix this in app's AndroidManifest.xml explictly set the value of the android:exported value to true.

jwoegerbauer said:
To fix this in app's AndroidManifest.xml explictly set the value of the android:exported value to true.
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I opened the AndroidManifest.xml file with AndroidStudio, but there are too many android:exported="true" entries in it.
I was thinking of limiting the change to the Activity tag that contains the android:name=".MainActivity" entry, as shown in your screenshot, but this entry is not present in the file ...

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[Guide] Survivng a Data Wipe / Update (Reduces Force Closes, too!)

Alright, this is a guide for everyone who has come to me saying "When I update, XXX.apk force closes" or "I hate doing a wipe every time I update"
What you will need:
Computer
Backup for Root Users
Google Account
SD Card
( Yes, this is written for idiots, )
What to do:
Power on your phone
Sync your google account
Run Backup for root users
Perform a data backup (first option)
Upon completion connect the phone to PC
Mount the sd card and open BackupRoot/data
delete everything related to the system
This is providers folders, htc.android folders, anything that isn't related to an app that you have installed
You should be left with just your program folders
These are things like nl.rogro.GScriptFull, and other INSTALLED programs
Do the update, wipe your phone, ect. (Whatever you had to do)
Run Backup for root users after opening any apps that have a EULA
These are things such as "Welcome, this program does some stuff" that appear when you first start the app and prevent data from being written until they have been accepted in full
Choose Restore Data (the option to the right of the first one you used)
Sync Google account
Congratulations, you have restored.
Now Backup for Root Users is a great app, but many people do not realize that when you back up all of your data, things like calendar and Mms may be different versions. Unlike installed apps that are meant to accept data from different versions of the same app, these programs may carry the same name but may read data differently. Things like calendar do not transport well, but by syncing your account you prevent losing anything because it is all reloaded by the sync.
Note: You will lose settings for Settings and Home Screen. These cannot be prevented and are the MOST COMMON cause of issue because the code for Launcher, Rosie, and the System are CONSTANTLY being changed. It's a small price to pay...
Great Advice!!! Thanks!
nice...added to thread index
LOL! My App in a guide on xda! LOL Again! XD
blackgin said:
LOL! My App in a guide on xda! LOL Again! XD
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Ah, so you're the person behind this great app.
do you happen to have a thread/blog that explains what some of these backups do? I have a bit of a hard time decyphering some of them.
Correct me if i'm wrong regarding your tutorial twistedumbrella.
If the users are running apps2sd, shouldn't they run the second option of the backup "Backup Data2sd"?
As you requested I published an info page on my blog:
http://blackgins.wordpress.com/what-dobackup-for-root/
blackgin said:
LOL! My App in a guide on xda! LOL Again! XD
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your app can't be pimped enough!
thanks for the tip and good job blackgin for creating this app.
blackgin said:
LOL! My App in a guide on xda! LOL Again! XD
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Slightly off topic I suppose, but could you [Blackgin] give us an option when using your program (as I do) to automatically backup only the Application Data that Twisted mentions above. That would save us the step of going in and deleting all that other stuff. You could call it "Pre-Wipe Backup" or something.
stellarman said:
Slightly off topic I suppose, but could you [Blackgin] give us an option when using your program (as I do) to automatically backup only the Application Data that Twisted mentions above. That would save us the step of going in and deleting all that other stuff. You could call it "Pre-Wipe Backup" or something.
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Easier said than done. You either have to index all apps and backup relative to that list (data is often a different name than the app) or index the system and skip that data (again variable by build). Honestly it would be a little too complicated unless you have set data lists just due to the variable nature of app name to data location.
Here is 1 more addition:
suppose u r gona have a wipe & dont want to do google account sign in again but want it to be automatically signed-in @ the first boot after updating,
Grab the attachment, extract & run bat file
It will backup google account database & will restore database:
Note: Backup When Phone Is running Means not in recovery mode
&
Restore after Updating/Wiping But in Recovery Mode Even restoring as soon as u update will do....
twistedumbrella said:
Easier said than done. You either have to index all apps and backup relative to that list (data is often a different name than the app) or index the system and skip that data (again variable by build). Honestly it would be a little too complicated unless you have set data lists just due to the variable nature of app name to data location.
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Maybe it isn't so difficult, I'm trying..
EDIT: Done
So if I am on a build using aps2SD, I choose that option right? The first time nothing backed up/restored properly
For me on cyanogen build, it works also the normal apk backup..
I backed up my sms while using Cyanogen 3.4.6, and i just flash JACHero, can I restore those SMS or will I run into some errors?
twistedumbrella said:
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Run Backup for root users
Perform a data backup (first option)
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Run Backup for root users after opening any apps that have a EULA
These are things such as "Welcome, this program does some stuff" that appear when you first start the app and prevent data from being written until they have been accepted in full
Choose Restore Data (the option to the right of the first one you used)
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What options are there?
These are the options, see the images
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It depends on what you are using (app2sd or not) and what you want to backup..
If you want to backup data without system one, chose data-sys (or that for app2sd).. If you want a full data backup chose backup data (or that for app2sd)
Backup for root users doesn't work for me.
When I start the application the first time I click on always allow permission.
Then I click on any buttons to save and nothing.
Just a message very fast "Performing Backup..."
On SD there is a directory "BackupRoot" and inside 2 Directories "dataNoSys" and "sd".
any idea?
I'm on custom ION r1
new release
Hi everybody,
Today I ve found a upgrade of BackupForRoot!
Always better! Good work Blackgin

Whatsapp installation issue [solved]

Hi,
I have a rooted 6.2.1 and attached is the issue I am seeing now . Any ideas? Thanks
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I cant even get it installed... even when I try Titanium backup.. how did you get it installed?
six3onei said:
I cant even get it installed... even when I try Titanium backup.. how did you get it installed?
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As you can see, it was not installed properly
Not to be whatever, but if the app isn't compatible with tablets, then it shouldn't work for the Fire until it is.. Are you trying to download on Amazon App Store or Market? Because if they put it in the Amazon app store then that would be VERY stupid on their part..
I read that the whatsapp application does work on KF.... if someone has the steps to install this correctly, do share. I used a friend's Android phone to upload the apk to Dropbox and tried to install it from there.
I tried using Ti Backup, but when restoring whatsapp on the kindle, the process either hangs or give me the error that the app is not installed. Any help will be greatly appreciated!
I got it working. but I had to locate an older version to install. I think the newer version of whatsapp does some check and thus prevent installation on the kindle.
boo85 said:
I got it working. but I had to locate an older version to install. I think the newer version of whatsapp does some check and thus prevent installation on the kindle.
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Could you share the apk ? Thanks
boo85 said:
I got it working. but I had to locate an older version to install. I think the newer version of whatsapp does some check and thus prevent installation on the kindle.
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can you please share the apk?
i have installed it in my fire
but the following msg was shown when i try to use it..
I hope its ok to upload here, do inform me if i am breaking any rules.
Note that I am using the original kindle OS and not a rom like CM7. I am doing this as i cannot even get the newest version of whatsapp to be installed much less to work. I was unable to get to the screen that rhs013232 has shown. I keep getting the error "Application not Installed" during installation.
So basically what i did was to:
1) Do a Ti Backup of whatsapp on my phone
2) Transfer the 3 whatsapp backup files (these 3 were created when backing up whatsapp) from my phone into the Kindle's Ti backup folder
3) install a copy of this version of whatsapp on the kindle
4) Restore the "Data" (not App or App+data) of whatsapp using Ti Backup
This should allow whatapp to work after that.
This copy of whatsapp will keep complaining that its an older version, so just tap ignore.
rhs013232 said:
can you please share the apk?
i have installed it in my fire
but the following msg was shown when i try to use it..
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i MIGHT be wrong, but...
i think since you have installed a different rom and thus it seems you managed to get whatsapp installed, all u need is to do a restore of whatsapp data. This will pass the kindle's copy of whatsapp the phone's data of registration etc allowing it to work.
So i think you should uninstall and reinstall whatsapp (dont open whatsapp first till after the restore) and do the restore using TI backup to see if you can get it working before you try to use the older version.
boo85 said:
I hope its ok to upload here, do inform me if i am breaking any rules.
Note that I am using the original kindle OS and not a rom like CM7. I am doing this as i cannot even get the newest version of whatsapp to be installed much less to work. I was unable to get to the screen that rhs013232 has shown. I keep getting the error "Application not Installed" during installation.
So basically what i did was to:
1) Do a Ti Backup of whatsapp on my phone
2) Transfer the 3 whatsapp backup files (these 3 were created when backing up whatsapp) from my phone into the Kindle's Ti backup folder
3) install a copy of this version of whatsapp on the kindle
4) Restore the "Data" (not App or App+data) of whatsapp using Ti Backup
This should allow whatapp to work after that.
This copy of whatsapp will keep complaining that its an older version, so just tap ignore.
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thank you so much~
it can install on my fire but another msg was shown..
I don't have any android phone, so are there any other method to use whatsapp on my fire?
or can you share those back up file?
Sorry man, but i dont think the whatsapp backup files can be shared as it will contain my account details. That means if you use them, u will be receiving msgs from my contacts instead.
I would suggest you borrow a friends phone and using your SIM card, you set up whatapps there and do the backup. That might work.
Since I don't have an Android phone, I uploaded the older version of whatapps to dropbox and installed it from there but to no avail. I am still getting the:
Help !!
you will definitely need Ti Backup from an android phone. cos without it I was also unable to start using whatsapp as I will have the same error as you.
boo85 said:
you will definitely need Ti Backup from an android phone. cos without it I was also unable to start using whatsapp as I will have the same error as you.
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Hi,
I wonder if there's someone who has managed to install whatsapp without Ti Backup ? I don't have an Andriod phone and my friends do not have root access to their phones ... thanks
This one is working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101614
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
QuBe2 said:
This one is working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101614
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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Thanks but it still requires a rooted cell phone. I just want to install it on a rooted KF ;-(
charmainelooi said:
Thanks but it still requires a rooted cell phone. I just want to install it on a rooted KF ;-(
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Oh
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Anyone ? I would gladly donate 5 USD for a workable solution as I do want to get whatsapp on my kindle .. thanks

[FIX] Running out of room in /data, Problems Uninstalling Apps. Duplicates

I have no app for this, nor do I intend to make one, any Dev may feel free to do so. This appears to apply way more widely to any Android phone But I discovered this on the GS5
A Mod can move this thread as fit!
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The Issue
Essentially I found many who dirty flash, use Titanium backup to restore or who knows what have faced odd issues of suddenly running out of room for apps when they shouldn't, or have trouble removing apps because they keep popping back up...
Well I found this in /data/app
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This issue eats all of the space up... but why does this happen???
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The Culprit
Duplicated apps clogging the data folder appears to be a permissions issue, where the permissions of 755 with the owner of system and group of system is ACTUALLY showing up as Owner root and group root, causing the playstore to duplicate apps with correct permissions as the playstore doesn't have root permission and gets denied access.
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The Solution?
To fix, run in terminal emulator or adb shell(with root permissions of course)
Code:
su
chown -R system:system /data/app
Now Delete all the extra apps so there's only one of each, app, keep only the highest numbered app(you can renumber them to 1 if you'd like)
wipe cache and dalvik cache(just suggestions)
This Is just my finding and I saw no other threads about this
I've been meaning to make an app for this, but it just keeps getting set aside for other things in life lol. I'm glad you made a thread that puts everything in one spot. You are the man, @GeTex
CVertigo1 said:
I've been meaning to make an app for this, but it just keeps getting set aside for other things in life lol. I'm glad you made a thread that puts everything in one spot. You are the man, @GeTex
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Cough woman...cough cough.
@CVertigo1 I recall you mentioning it, added this post for now to help those having issues
I have written the how to get rid of the duplicates in a bunch of threads, so it'll be nice to have a thread to link instead lol
Haha, cool
Just tried the code you posted and it gives this....
-R: unknown option
Edit...worked after I put in just su first and then the rest on next entry. Thanks for the info.
I'd like to add that you can use Root Explorer to change owner if you don't have a computer handy. Go into Root Explorer and long press app/data/ and tap change owner. Then set owner as system for all sub files. I don't have a rooted device handy, so I can't be certain if it says all sub files or directories or something else lol.
I'd like to add that I tested some of the causes for this previously, and it seems like Titanium Backup is the #1 cause. I went back to stock and rooted the phone, PB1 if that matters. When I looked, there were no /data/app directories with the owners set as root. Then I restored apps with Titanium Backup then recheck directory owners, and I found multiple instances of root as the owner. I assume Titanium has to change owner to have the ability to write, but it doesn't change permissions back when it is done. I wonder if the developer is aware.
I caused this simply by a dirtyflash
When I initially had this problem I factory reset my phone without actually fixing the problem. I did this because I couldn’t get the code from the linked thread to execute in terminal emulator. I also refused to pay for the app that was suggested. Lo and behold, the problem returned yesterday.
Today, I managed to fix the problem and would like to share my success in case anyone else needs assistance. Here are the steps I followed.
1. Back up apps in Titanium Backup
2. Back up SMS messages using SMS Backup & Restore
3. Screenshot the home screens
4. Factory reset phone
5. Install all apps from play store
6. Restore SMS messages
7. Setup home screens to match screenshots
8. Restore App DATA ONLY with Titanium Backup
9. Verify the Owner and Group settings were correct for the /data/app folder and sub folders.
When I opened TB for the first time, I got a message about the MOUNT NAMESPACE SEPERATION setting in Super SU potentially causing problems. I turned the setting off. I have seen no errors from turning this off and have left it so. When I restored apps & data with TB, TB failed to install apps that were already on the phone. After this happened twice, I proceeded to restore Data Only. Since I had installed all the apps from the play store before using TB, I ended up restoring DATA ONLY.
I then opened Root Browser in order to change owner & group settings for the folder /data/app. I found that the owner and group were already set to System. If this is due to the developer of TB updating the app, thanks much. If it’s due to the setting in Super SU, I’m passing this nugget along. If it’s dumb luck or because I didn’t install apps and did data only, I do not know. If you know, please share.
My hope is that this info helps others get past this annoying problem.
beavermjr said:
When I initially had this problem I factory reset my phone without actually fixing the problem. I did this because I couldn’t get the code from the linked thread to execute in terminal emulator. I also refused to pay for the app that was suggested. Lo and behold, the problem returned yesterday.
Today, I managed to fix the problem and would like to share my success in case anyone else needs assistance. Here are the steps I followed.
1. Back up apps in Titanium Backup
2. Back up SMS messages using SMS Backup & Restore
3. Screenshot the home screens
4. Factory reset phone
5. Install all apps from play store
6. Restore SMS messages
7. Setup home screens to match screenshots
8. Restore App DATA ONLY with Titanium Backup
9. Verify the Owner and Group settings were correct for the /data/app folder and sub folders.
When I opened TB for the first time, I got a message about the MOUNT NAMESPACE SEPERATION setting in Super SU potentially causing problems. I turned the setting off. I have seen no errors from turning this off and have left it so. When I restored apps & data with TB, TB failed to install apps that were already on the phone. After this happened twice, I proceeded to restore Data Only. Since I had installed all the apps from the play store before using TB, I ended up restoring DATA ONLY.
I then opened Root Browser in order to change owner & group settings for the folder /data/app. I found that the owner and group were already set to System. If this is due to the developer of TB updating the app, thanks much. If it’s due to the setting in Super SU, I’m passing this nugget along. If it’s dumb luck or because I didn’t install apps and did data only, I do not know. If you know, please share.
My hope is that this info helps others get past this annoying problem.
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My code in the op must be executed in terminal emulator line by line with root permissions
GeTex said:
My code in the op must be executed in terminal emulator line by line with root permissions
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Done. Although it didn't seem to do anything as the owner/group for the folder was already System. Am I missing something?
beavermjr said:
Done. Although it didn't seem to do anything as the owner/group for the folder was already System. Am I missing something?
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nope, if it worked, then any folder with wrong permissions would be fixed, to test change permissions on any folder to test(set owner to root) and after running, owner will be system
Thanks a ton.

WhatsApp backup restoration without google account?

WhatsApp downloaed today 2.18.358
old device:
Running local backup - works well - all 113 MB file is properly created with the name msgstore.db.crypt12
new phone same WhatsApp .apk
Then copying this to a new phone putting on folder WhatsApp/databases - all good
installing whatsapp - all fine
runing WhatsApp on a new device:
- License agreement screen (ok),
-two more pop-ups with permission access to contacts/storage/etc. All permissions were granted.
number verification (same number) (ok - entering the code) then asking if it should get permission to access google drive.
- skipping it - moves to app without attempt to restore local backup
- giving permission moves to pop-up of creation the google drive account, so I can select only "none" and in the end also application is also starting without attempt to restore local backup
Any ideas, Dear Friends?
lady_kasia said:
WhatsApp downloaed today 2.18.358
Any ideas, Dear Friends?
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TB done the trick to me moving from old to new phone (and from Nougat to Oreo same way), plus manual copying content of Android/data/ [whatever is whatsapp dir in you old phone)
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TB done the trick to me moving from old to new phone (and from Nougat to Oreo same way), plus manual copying content of Android/data/ [whatever is whatsapp dir in you old phone)
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was it described by you somewhere?
able o copy/paste it here, please?
lady_kasia said:
was it described by you somewhere?
able o copy/paste it here, please?
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list to do: install (if you do not have it) Titanium Backup on the OLD phone. In Preferences, set Backup app external data as Enabled (Always).
Check where the backup folder is created on the phone. Typically, it would be TitaniumBackup in root folder of the card.
Copy the folder to new phone.
Install TB on the new phone
Run it, scroll down, or input in the search: Whats (shall find it now), then click Restore.
Check if it works now, if not (e.g. android different version on old and new phone) - reinstall (do not uninstall from settings, go to GooglePlay and reinstall from there).
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list to do: install (if you do not have it) Titanium Backup on the OLD phone. In Preferences, set Backup app external data as Enabled (Always).
Check where the backup folder is created on the phone. Typically, it would be TitaniumBackup in root folder of the card.
Copy the folder to new phone.
Install TB on the new phone
Run it, scroll down, or input in the search: Whats (shall find it now), then click Restore.
Check if it works now, if not (e.g. android different version on old and new phone) - reinstall (do not uninstall from settings, go to GooglePlay and reinstall from there).
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That could be a great idea.
Here is what worked for me:
1. (creating) and connecting google account to old phone
2. backing up all WhatsApp to Google account as defult option by app
(message after upload of 100% of 1GB : FAILED)
3. connecting same google account to new phone
4. trying to download backup
reported: NOT FOUND
so I found this could be a problem with backup file itself upon it was being generated.
What helped for that:
Going to classic memory (no root folders) and removing ALL folders of WhatsApp (this from SD_card - images, videos, etc).
And then doing backup again.
This time it worked.
Maybe not as intended (without google participation) but at least the case is solved and reason probably found (some old file preventing backup to be recognized as proper backup - even when done with good size of 100MB+ each time).
Next time will try with Titanium Backup

Unable to Backup Messages: Backup corrupted, help required to transfer WhatsApp data to new phone

I have a 'Redmi Note 9 Pro max' phone. WhatsApp is fully functional, with a chat history of the last 5 years. I got a new Samsung S22 5g phone, and I want to move all my data to that phone. When I checked the WhatsApp chat backup, I saw that the last backup happened on February 7th to my Google Drive. I clicked 'Backup' button to manually take the backup. I got the error message 'Unable to back up messages' after 30 seconds. I tried rebooting the phone several times, changing networks, checking the permissions, etc., but I still got the same message. I verified the backup in my Google Drive, and I saw the backup happened last February 7. My database folder was empty since I cleared the msgstore.db files as part of saving storage space, which I used to do periodically since I know that WhatsApp will create daily local backups in that folder. I noticed that WhatsApp even stopped creating local backups daily, as it is supposed to.
After several attempts to create a new backup, I finally decided to restore the February 7 backup available in my Google Drive to my new phone. I added the Google Drive account to my new phone and installed WhatsApp there. Whatsapp correctly detected the backup in my Google account and began restoring the messages; however, at the end of the restore, it threw an error message saying "unable to restore your chats from this backup," and after that message, Whatsapp displayed a list of other Google accounts to check for other old backups, which I did not have. I skipped the restore and saw that it did not have any chat history. I immediately closed and uninstalled WhatsApp on the new phone, switched back to my old phone, verified the number again, and thankfully, I was able to keep WhatsApp on my old phone without losing any data.
Now all my applications have been migrated to my new phone, except WhatsApp. Ultimately, I see that the existing available backup is corrupted, and I don't have any other local backup files either. I took a copy of the msgstore.db.crypt14 file from the new phone while the restore happened from Google Drive. Keeping in mind that my WhatsApp is fully functional on my old phone, I would like to get help with any of the below solutions to migrate my WhatsApp data.
Fix the 'unable to backup messages' issue for creating a new backup to Google Drive or at least a local backup. As mentioned, WhatsApp stopped creating local offline backups.
Recover any of the recent msgstore.db.crypt14 files that I deleted to create free space.
Fix the corrupted crypt14 file, which I have taken a copy of.
Other than the built-in backup and restore method, is there another way to migrate WhatsApp?
Same problem here!
I tried a lot of things and eventually I was successful to some degree.
Whatsapp restore from local backup : Working method April 2022
Hello everyone, This troubleshooting guide is related to the situation where you have a backed up .crypt14 fle (data base file) for Whatsapp and are unable to restore the local backup for Whatsapp using the .crypt14 file and you have no back up...
forum.xda-developers.com
These steps worked for me to force upload a .crypt14 backup file to Google Drive. I was able to restore the messages. I had to kill Whatsapp though because the restore process got stuck.
But the messages seem to be all back.
Another problem appeared though. I am unable to create new Backups due to an error.
I am now using Fouad Whatsapp Mod because it has its own backup and restore function which works.
My phone is not rooted so I extracted the Whatsapp key and unencrypted database with WhatsApp Key/Database Extractor.
I have installed the Android Emulator Nox Player, activated Root und installed the Foud Mod. I was able to replace the msgstore.db in /data/data/com.whatsapp/databases/ with my unencrypted backup as descirbed here.
Then I was able to backup everything and copy the backup back to my phone and restore it there whith the Fouad Whatsapp Mod
The backup is located unter Documents/FMBackups/com.whasapp.zip
Thanks also to this post which helped me a lot.
I hope you'll be succesful, too!
TheLostOne said:
Same problem here!
I tried a lot of things and eventually I was successful to some degree.
Whatsapp restore from local backup : Working method April 2022
Hello everyone, This troubleshooting guide is related to the situation where you have a backed up .crypt14 fle (data base file) for Whatsapp and are unable to restore the local backup for Whatsapp using the .crypt14 file and you have no back up...
forum.xda-developers.com
These steps worked for me to force upload a .crypt14 backup file to Google Drive. I was able to restore the messages. I had to kill Whatsapp though because the restore process got stuck.
But the messages seem to be all back.
Another problem appeared though. I am unable to create new Backups due to an error.
I am now using Fouad Whatsapp Mod because it has its own backup and restore function which works.
My phone is not rooted so I extracted the Whatsapp key and unencrypted database with WhatsApp Key/Database Extractor.
I have installed the Android Emulator Nox Player, activated Root und installed the Foud Mod. I was able to replace the msgstore.db in /data/data/com.whatsapp/databases/ with my unencrypted backup as descirbed here.
Then I was able to backup everything and copy the backup back to my phone and restore it there whith the Fouad Whatsapp Mod
The backup is located unter Documents/FMBackups/com.whasapp.zip
Thanks also to this post which helped me a lot.
I hope you'll be succesful, too!
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Hi.
I also have the same problem, and i was hoping you or someone else could help me. Whatsapp got stuck on restoring the backup, so i had to kill it mid restore. The messages are back but now it can't create another backup.
My question is: how do I transfer my messages to Fouad Whatsapp Mod if I can't back them up? Both local and gDrive backups fail. It seems like it doesn't even create the .crypt14 file. Any tips? Thanks in advance
Hi,
I would suggest that you backup your messages with WhatsApp Key/Database Extractor. You can additionally copy your whole Whatsapp folder to your computer to have also a backup of your media.
Here you have a tutorial on how to install Fouad Mod keeping your messages.
Good luck!
Hi @Canny2010,
Do you able to resolve the issue?
Im havin the same issue, already researched for few but still have no resolution.
thanks
Justin
HiJustin said:
Hi @Canny2010,
Do you able to resolve the issue?
Im havin the same issue, already researched for few but still have no resolution.
thanks
Justin
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Just to be clear: You can't upload a backup on Google Drive?
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Just to be clear: You can't upload a backup on Google Drive?
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Keep showing 'unable to backup messages' issue for creating a new backup to Google Drive or local backup. WhatsApp stopped creating local offline backups, no files in folder databases.
Thanks
HiJustin said:
Keep showing 'unable to backup messages' issue for creating a new backup to Google Drive or local backup. WhatsApp stopped creating local offline backups, no files in folder databases.
Thanks
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Which version is installed?
latest 2.23.7.80
That's also my installed version but I haven't any problems with it. My suggestions:
- try a higher version or beta
You searched for whatsapp - APKMirror
You searched for whatsapp - APKMirror Free and safe Android APK downloads
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- rename the Whatsapp folder in your internal storage (/internal storage/Android/media/com.whatsapp/WhatsApp/) to force the app to create a new one (maybe there is sth messed up with the path/permissions?)
- in case there is still a valid backup on Drive I would also try an older version (s. apkmirror.com)
- rename the Whatsapp folder in your internal storage (/internal storage/Android/media/com.whatsapp/WhatsApp/) to force the app to create a new one (maybe there is sth messed up with the path/permissions?)
> above approach would caused me lost all the data?
HiJustin said:
- rename the Whatsapp folder in your internal storage (/internal storage/Android/media/com.whatsapp/WhatsApp/) to force the app to create a new one (maybe there is sth messed up with the path/permissions?)
> above approach would caused me lost all the data?
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You should rename it and not delete it. The folder is still there but WhatsApp won't find it. If it works just copy the files from the old to the new created folder.
Tried, same. Any tools can recommend? Pay version also OK.
I have the same problem. did you find a solution? Thank you
ps: without using root

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