Hello. I'm looking for a phone or ROM allowing apps to be running in background.
I was told that the pixel phones or AOSP ROM does not usually kill apps.
Is this true or if not, is there any phone allowing apps to be run in background?
Specifically looking to run tasker or unattended remote APP(teamviewer,anydesk,controlwise.. etc or any recommendations are welcome)
Thank you.
cc2918 said:
Hello. I'm looking for a phone or ROM allowing apps to be running in background.
I was told that the pixel phones or AOSP ROM does not usually kill apps.
Is this true or if not, is there any phone allowing apps to be run in background?
Specifically looking to run tasker or unattended remote APP(teamviewer,anydesk,controlwise.. etc or any recommendations are welcome)
Thank you.
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I do suppose that apps can run automatically at the background. However, if you are running out of RAM, the apps may be open but you have to restart app.
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I'm running a rooted Kindle Fire, CyanogenMod 9, Kernel V. 3.0.21, [email protected] It sees the tablet as a Galaxy Nexis. I have no major trouble with it except, certain apps automatically start and my chat apps will not shut down unless I shut down the tablet. Is there a setting somewhere to tell apps not to auto start? I've looked all over it and can't find anything.
Thanks in advance.
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There you go :good:
Do you want to have control over automatically starting applications?Autorun Manager (formerly Autorun Killer) is an ultimate tool that lets you disable all the autostarting apps you don't need
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Why not try a much newer ROM?
"Hello World"
Don't know how many of you saw this, but I installed it last night, and it's awesome.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/greenify-keeps-your-android-running-smoothly/
Basically, it allows you to stop apps from running in the background without disabling them. You can still run them like normal, but they don't eat up RAM when you're not. It does stop background functions, but many of the apps I see running like this don't do anything for me in the background anyway. YOU determine what runs in the background instead of your apps.
It doesn't work with system apps, these need to be moved to phone storage before Greenify can take control of them.
I've noticed a definite improvement in available memory and multitasking.
Play Store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/..._source=xda&utm_medium=post&utm_term=download
You will spend more battery in killing those apps. ram is supposed to be filled up, the only answer to run more apps is to get more ram , not kill running apps.
Did you read the post? It's not a traditional app killer. It prevents them from running in the background at all.
Installed this a few hours ago. Definitely smoother phone, and moderately better multitasking. Been trying to find a way to get rid of pesky Facebook which uses like 25 mb of RAM just to send you push notifications and sync your calendar.
You may need to convert Facebook to a user app first. It can't do anything to system apps. I did it with mine and it's now behaving.
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I had given my old Android 2.3 phone and a fairly new Android 4.4 tablet to my kid.
Within about a month, both devices basically became non-functional on start up.
After some analysis, it became clear that all the games and recreational apps my kid installed was causing the problem: they were all built to auto-start on device boot up, and they lacked an option to tell them not to auto-start on device boot up.
Since both devices were rooted, I used a tool (Clean Master) that quickly identified the auto-start apps and stopped them from auto-starting.
My question is this:
Why would an app developer build an app that auto-starts with no option to disable that? Many auto start apps will just kill the usability of the device, and it isn't trivial finding out why.
If the device was not rooted, there's probably no way to stop these apps except to uninstall them. If Android allows a third-party app on a non-rooted device to auto-start, why isn't there an app that works on non-rooted devices to stop these apps from auto-starting?
Nate2 said:
I had given my old Android 2.3 phone and a fairly new Android 4.4 tablet to my kid.
Within about a month, both devices basically became non-functional on start up.
After some analysis, it became clear that all the games and recreational apps my kid installed was causing the problem: they were all built to auto-start on device boot up, and they lacked an option to tell them not to auto-start on device boot up.
Since both devices were rooted, I used a tool (Clean Master) that quickly identified the auto-start apps and stopped them from auto-starting.
My question is this:
Why would an app developer build an app that auto-starts with no option to disable that? Many auto start apps will just kill the usability of the device, and it isn't trivial finding out why.
If the device was not rooted, there's probably no way to stop these apps except to uninstall them. If Android allows a third-party app on a non-rooted device to auto-start, why isn't there an app that works on non-rooted devices to stop these apps from auto-starting?
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Actually, there were non-root apps that could disable auto-start of other normal apps till JellyBean 4.2 I guess.
Then came the security enforcements which prevented this for non-root users.
Android assumes that an app necessarily needs auto-starting at boot for the smooth working of the app.
There's a reason behind that.
For example, if you disable auto start of FB messenger or WhatsApp, you won't automatically get notifications unless you open it one time so that certain services begin to run in background.
The same goes for your kid's apps like Talking Tom, which gives essential notifications (from a kid's point of view) like "I'm Hungry" or "I wanna pee" or something like that
But you have non-root apps too (you gotta dig a lil deeper to find them) which doesn't work like root apps, that is, doesn't disable them to start at boot. Instead, they stop the apps/services after booting that's disabled in that app.
Apps like CC Cleaner or the so-called antivirus apps work that way only
Since updating from 6.0.1 to 7.0 on my Nexus 6P I have realized that the task manager I used no longer works. I tried many other popular and non popular task manager apps on Nougat and none of them work. They all display something like "no running apps to display."
So obviously it seems in 7.0 Google updated whatever command is needed for an app to pull the running apps from the system, and no one has updated their task manager app to work with 7.0. I was pretty shocked that in the forums no topic with "task manager" was created with in the past 6 months to talk about this.
So are others people experiencing this with task managers on Nougat? If so, have you found any task manager app that works with Nougat?
Edit: sorry if this the wrong forum to post this, but I figured it applied here since it seem to be related to new API causing these types of apps to not work. Feel free to move it if this topic fits better somewhere else. Thanks!
Why would you use third party task mangers when you already have one built in Android?
Prince Chandela said:
Why would you use third party task mangers when you already have one built in Android?
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Simple! Because ever since Android 5.0 the task manager only shows the average RAM usage. It does not currently show what's running in real time. Only shows the past 3 hour, 6 hour, 12 hour, or 1 day average. It shows apps that are not even running at that very second. That information can be helpful some but not for everything.
In Android 4.4 and earlier it used to show real time what apps were running. Just like on Windows computers task manager shows real time what's running. If an app starts running, it appears on the list. if an app stops running, it disappears from the list. This is helpful for finding a rogue app on your battery, or a rogue app slowing down your phone using a Ton of RAM. It is not as easy identifying a rogue app with averages. Especially if it's an app that's not running all the time in the back ground.
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Simple! Because ever since Android 5.0 the task manager only shows the average RAM usage. It does not currently show what's running in real time. Only shows the past 3 hour, 6 hour, 12 hour, or 1 day average. It shows apps that are not even running at that very second. That information can be helpful some but not for everything.
In Android 4.4 and earlier it used to show real time what apps were running. Just like on Windows computers task manager shows real time what's running. If an app starts running, it appears on the list. if an app stops running, it disappears from the list. This is helpful for finding a rogue app on your battery, or a rogue app slowing down your phone using a Ton of RAM. It is not as easy identifying a rogue app with averages. Especially if it's an app that's not running all the time in the back ground.
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Go to Developers Option > Running services
Prince Chandela said:
Go to Developers Option > Running services
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Wow... I'm not sure how I been in developer settings countless times And over looked that. ThankS!
Prince Chandela said:
Go to Developers Option > Running services
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+1 here, good find!
just updated to nougat and also my task manager of old stopped working.
Prince Chandela said:
Go to Developers Option > Running services
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Does it also kill apps automatically? I dont want services running after i close the app, and i dont want to go to running services to do it everytime... Android should have that option lets call it dont allow background running or while screen off...
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Does it also kill apps automatically? I dont want services running after i close the app, and i dont want to go to running services to do it everytime... Android should have that option lets call it dont allow background running or while screen off...
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It won't kill apps automatically you can use Greenify for that or you can do it manually every time after you open the app again.
There are two ways
1. Go to app info and force stop it. (recommended)
2. Go to running services and stop it from there.
Once you open the app again all service will be restarted. The first option is easy and straight forward
Prince Chandela said:
It won't kill apps automatically you can use Greenify for that or you can do it manually every time after you open the app again.
There are two ways
1. Go to app info and force stop it. (recommended)
2. Go to running services and stop it from there.
Once you open the app again all service will be restarted. The first option is easy and straight forward
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I know man i was just trying to make a point about still needing task killers, look what permissions greenify needs to do that now: usage access, draw over apps, accessibility permission... Horrific permisions... Android even asked for my fingerprint when giving it accessibility permission and said it needs it cause of encryption...
If that was native in Android (no background running option per app) that would be great.
Might even partially fix poor ram managment in Android...
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Grr and how to view what's consuming cpu? Show cpu usage doesn't work properly on nougat s7 for example. And the included ram manager is poor and it slowly refreshing
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Grr and how to view what's consuming cpu? Show cpu usage doesn't work properly on nougat s7 for example. And the included ram manager is poor and it slowly refreshing
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For ram usage use running services in developer options.
I totally agree with you, moving on to a newer system broke a lot of apps...
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For ram usage use running services in developer options.
I totally agree with you, moving on to a newer system broke a lot of apps...
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I know that man, i need something for cpu usage
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I know that man, i need something for cpu usage
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Download cool tool from playstore.
It works on my nexus, and its on screen overlay...
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Cannot see process cpu usage
Only a loading... placeholder
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Cannot see process cpu usage
Only a loading... placeholder
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I dont know... try finding cool tool topic on xda... Search the net...
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+1 here, good find!
just updated to nougat and also my task manager of old stopped working.
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Hi, updating here to -1. Agree with posters above, built in is a pita to use.
My old task killer was click app, click kill, job done :good:
Also really useful to quickly see what was running right now and those naughty apps that restarted themselves
Someone must have a decent easy task killer for rooted Nougat
Updating again: Advanced Task Manager free is working just not the pro version I paid for. Looks like they care more about the ads than their paying users. Ok for me anyway. Rooted phones don't have ads
In Android 7.0 Google once again has made undocumented changes and has significantly restricted access to the proc file system. This means that since this new API level it is not possible anymore to retrieve processes info. Task Managers running on devices with Android 7.0 will only show total CPU usage, their own CPU usage and memory usage, but not CPU usage for other processes. Running the app on a rooted device does not make difference. More info on File system changes in Android Nougat - Stack Overflow. Star this Android issue to push Google to implement an alternative API.
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https://github.com/AntonioRedondo/A...fo-since-android-nougat-70-api-24-august-2016
Maybe a CPU/RAM monitor that should work in Nougat
I was looking for a CPU monitor before upgrading a TV-Box to Nougat and I found his thread in meantime it seem (I have not tested it) that "System Panel 2" should work with rooted device even with Nougat: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sp
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Hey guys, is there any efficient app which really closes any app - or avoid them to boot during the startup of the smartphone?
For example, Booking.com or Instagram — I absolutely don't need any notifications from them, and I want to keep those apps absolutely closed. Even the native "restricted background activity" on Android 12 seems not to be working, nor Servicely / Naptime / Greenify (I have root).
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
pulseg11 said:
Hey guys, is there any efficient app which really closes any app - or avoid them to boot during the startup of the smartphone?
For example, Booking.com or Instagram — I absolutely don't need any notifications from them, and I want to keep those apps absolutely closed. Even the native "restricted background activity" on Android 12 seems not to be working, nor Servicely / Naptime / Greenify (I have root).
Any other suggestions?
Thanks
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So basically a startup manager. That would be pretty nifty.
Best I can suggest is disable notifications on those apps; with notifications disabled, I think Android system doesn't allow the processes to keep running. I could be wrong.
There's also some Developer Options that help reduce what you have running at any given time, although they're more of a global policy and not app specific.
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So basically a startup manager. That would be pretty nifty.
Best I can suggest is disable notifications on those apps; with notifications disabled, I think Android system doesn't allow the processes to keep running. I could be wrong.
There's also some Developer Options that help reduce what you have running at any given time, although they're more of a global policy and not app specific.
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Yep — I've disabled the notifications already of Instagram, but still appears to be having some background activity.
Startup manager - yeah, do you know any to suggest?
pulseg11 said:
Yep — I've disabled the notifications already of Instagram, but still appears to be having some background activity.
Startup manager - yeah, do you know any to suggest?
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I mean, there's dozens of task managers out there, but honestly they're not really worth the trouble and don't do anything significant for battery life. With the exception of Magisk and a systemless ad blocker, I'm pretty much bone stock on my Pixel 5 with no management apps whatsoever, and I could probably go 2 days on standby.
pulseg11 said:
Yep — I've disabled the notifications already of Instagram, but still appears to be having some background activity.
Startup manager - yeah, do you know any to suggest?
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you can disable it with app2sd pro , luckypatcher , my android tool , terminal .
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