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Hi guys,
I've been playing around with my Nexus S for about 3 weeks and I've decided to root it, but I have some question, I've been searching the answers in older posts but it's not quite clear yet, hope you can help me.
When I unlocked the bootloader, what kind of data will be wiped? It's just the SD card or also all the apps I've already downloaded? what about SMS, pictures and videos?
Is there anyway I can backup that data considering I haven't root it yet???
Thanks in advance.
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
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lol what? its nobodys fault but your own. all the resources are available, just because somebody isnt responding to your threads and holding your hand to restore a nandriod backup doesnt make it a "lack of a community".. and your phone isn't bricked, it can be recovered but you are too close-minded and cant install Clockwork Recovery / get drivers working
The data that will be wiped are most likely your SMS/settings/etc. This is standard procedure. And its something you'll go through a lot when you are using custom ROMs.
There are complete instructions for rooting, unrooting and unbricking your phone. It's all here in the forums, and many other places, you just have to look and learn. I read for two weeks before I unlocked and loaded a ROM into my NS.
If you don't have a need to root your phone I wouldn't do it just because you can. I wanted to run the Voodoo app so I had to root and load a ROM. It took a little while but it was painless and I liked learning about the Android system.
You do have to backup your app and your SD, but that was the easy part.
It's close to impossible to brick a nexus device. They purposely come with totally open boot loaders specifically for that purpose!
RogerPodacter said:
It's close to impossible to brick a nexus device. They purposely come with totally open boot loaders specifically for that purpose!
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its not only Nexus devices but like I said people are using the term brick wrong. with these new phones coming out, a lot of them are hard to brick.
if you're phone is able to get into recovery/start/download mode (odin not popular but still an option)/bootloader then its not bricked.
if its unable to start in any form or way.. its considered a brick. please stop using the term in its wrong definition.
"brick" describes a device that cannot function in any capacity (such as a device with damaged firmware)
In the strictest sense of the term, bricking must imply that software error has rendered the device completely unrecoverable without some hardware replacement.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brick_(electronics)
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I think guys you have lost focus about my question, it's not about how to root (there is a lot of info about), it's about what kind of data will be wiped and how to back it up
Netconn said:
You do have to backup your app and your SD, but that was the easy part.
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What's the best way to do it? It's there an app or I have to day it by myself?
Make a nandroid backup first and foremost! Use Titanium Backup to make a backup of all your apps. If you want a backup of your sms, go sms pro really does a great job of that. Dont forget your contacts as well! Then copy your sd card and place it on the hard drive of your computer. When you unlock the bootloader, it does wipe your sd card. Once your unlocked and rooted, you should be able to restore everything once you replace the copy of your sd card back on the phone. Coming over from a Vibrant, I was nervous about rooting the phone but its an easy process. Just take your time and do lots of reading! Hope this helps!
Thenx, but I still have one doubt, if I haven't root my phone yet, will nandroid or titanium work?
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Woops..yeah, your right there. Too quick to reply. I followed this method here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=895545
and had no problems. Once you get unlocked/rooted and clockwork recovery, then you can make the fore mentioned backups. Export your contacts to the sd card then copy the sd card to the hard drive of your computer before unlocking the boot loader. I do not think apps get affected during the sd wipe unless you have them stored there.
zephiK said:
its not only Nexus devices but like I said people are using the term brick wrong. with these new phones coming out, a lot of them are hard to brick.
if you're phone is able to get into recovery/start/download mode (odin not popular but still an option)/bootloader then its not bricked.
if its unable to start in any form or way.. its considered a brick. please stop using the term in its wrong definition.
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i followed the instructions to flash gri74 back to stock and my phone wont turn on, wont goto any mode, wont read that its hookedup to my pc
isnt that what we call a brick? ive had issues on a galaxy s with this game issue. htc devices i can fly through the root procedure but i got this 1 rooted, tried reflashing to stock and the phone wont turn on at all.
may i suggest a noob proof guide|? i postted 1 in the htc desire forum and people love it. yesterday i returned a moto xoom because ti was overheating , got a nexus s and 2day il b returning that because it wont turn on. can any1 help me think of a good idea i can tell the future shop return people?
kmhil said:
I think guys you have lost focus about my question, it's not about how to root (there is a lot of info about), it's about what kind of data will be wiped and how to back it up
What's the best way to do it? It's there an app or I have to day it by myself?
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you are forced to lose your data to initially root your device. then after that point, you can always create backups and never lose data again while you switch between ROMs and flashing etc. but i think to initially root, you have to lose everything. not the sd card though.
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
i followed the instructions to flash gri74 back to stock and my phone wont turn on, wont goto any mode, wont read that its hookedup to my pc
isnt that what we call a brick? ive had issues on a galaxy s with this game issue. htc devices i can fly through the root procedure but i got this 1 rooted, tried reflashing to stock and the phone wont turn on at all.
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Do keep in mind, we don't have an i9020 or an i9023, we have an i9020A So the instruction out there all need to take that into considerations. I rooted mine fine with no "Bricking" I had to follow the instruction for the i9023, but it worked. I figure it took me all of 1 minute to root my phone. Admitedly, the "One click root" for the Galaxy series was easier.
I try to make it a point to never be the "First" person to do something on their phone. Much safer that way.
I also find it very unusual that you've managed to brick two phones, I've also had the pleasure of owning the telus fascinate, and not once did i get it bricked, I tried Bionics, CM7, Darky's and a bunch of other ones. Just never mess with the boot loader. When you went back to stock, did you make sure it was a stock ROM for the I9020A?
Have you tried connecting the USB to a computer, holding the volume up (or in the case of the galaxy, both up and down) While powering on the device? I've had to use that a few times to recover my galaxy (Thank you odin!!).
Now in regards to the OP, I would recommend using a program like Ti to back everything up, unlock the bootloader then restore from Ti, it's a little more hassel, but you can pretty much keep your settings and data. Personally, i rooted my phone before configuring a single thing on it.
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Thenx, but I still have one doubt, if I haven't root my phone yet, will nandroid or titanium work?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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there is no way to make a good backup without rooting.
basically yes, you will lose all your settings
there are a few apps you can use to backup your apk before unlocing/rooting the phone.
look for App admin on market https://market.android.com/details?id=az.mecid.appadmin&feature=search_result
the stuff backed to SD does not get wiped
only the internal storage stuff
LINKSLOVESANDROID said:
dont do it man. i just got my phone yesterday at 1 pm and its now 12am and its bricked by lack of support from the cummunity. i studyied and studied 4 around 10 hours. then bricked my device. and i have a good idea i wont be getting a replacement this time
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i took about 12 minutes total to unlock my bootloader, flash clockwork, and flash a custom rom. its not difficult if you pay attention to what you read. youre phone is not bricked. btw, i read your threads. if you werent so demanding, i would have helped. use the pdanet website the next time you need to install the proper driver, and follow the directions that they give you.
When I unlocked I used Astro to back up my apps, I turned on the Google data sync to back up my contacts and I did a back up of my SD on my computer.
When the unlock and recovery was done NS asked for my Google account then it restored all my contacts, Astro restored all my apps and I restored my files from my computer. A few steps but not difficult at all.
You will have to redo your accounts and data, and maybe an app or two won't load but the market will show them installed, just reinstall any that didn't.
Make sure you follow the directions properly in the forum. I had to use two computers to get it to work, but it did work and nothing was damaged.
With all that said.... This was the first time I have ever owned or altered an Android phone. Sure I was nervous... Now I'm hooked.. haha
I wound up using NSCollab .17 so far so good..
First thing I did when I got my phone was fastboot oem unlock.
Even if you don't want to root, use another ROM. Fastboot unlock it so your data doesn't get wiped.
If your hardware and everything seems okay, then flash Clockwork Recovery and do a nandroid backup so you can restore to pre-flashing point if you need it for OEM purposes.
Afterwards, go crazy and flash like theres no tomorrow and find something that you'll like.
And agreed with simms. You've made so made so many threads about this. I would help you step by step but I've been busy so I can't do that anymore. But if you search, you'll find about two or three threads where I did help somebody get their phone to a working state.
The basic idea is... if your phone doesn't boot but you can get to recovery.
- Download a ROM or Nandroid backup
- Install USB drivers
- Fastboot oem unlock (if you haven't)
- fastboot flash recovery recovery.img (or whatever the recovery.img is named) should be in /sdk/tools
- reboot into recovery (adb reboot recovery)
- mount and storage: mount USB, put the nandroid backup or ROM onto phone
- nandroid restore or flash a ROM (wipe factory,dalvik,cache --> flash ROM (if its CM7.. flash gapps afterwards)
- reboot
your phone boots. alternatively, you can use Odin but thats not a popular method but the choice is available if you wish to go towards that approach
in the worse worse possible case scenario there is always ODIN to the rescue
Why did you guys wait at all?
Once i got the phone i immediately plugged it into my computer and rooted it.
I am using samsung galaxy trend duos(s7392). There is no custom rom for the mobile. But, my phone is very very slow. Thats why I should root my phone. But, as there is no any custom rom,, then what should I do if I had any problem with my phone after root ? I mean ,, mostly when anything wrong happens, then I factory restore my phone. But after root , how can I restore my phone ? Thanks.
Monjur said:
I am using samsung galaxy trend duos(s7392). There is no custom rom for the mobile. But, my phone is very very slow. Thats why I should root my phone. But, as there is no any custom rom,, then what should I do if I had any problem with my phone after root ? I mean ,, mostly when anything wrong happens, then I factory restore my phone. But after root , how can I restore my phone ? Thanks.
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I think, you better make full phone backup before doing anything. there are many post regarding software with which you can make backup etc.... i think Odin is used for that purpose.... I'm not samsung guy.
gather information, read about "Rooting", "Custom Recovery (CWM or TWRP)" and "ROMs Custom/Official" topics. take interest in reading so you understand more about functions/features, benefits and risks.
as i mentioned above i'm not using samsung, so i don't know much about it's tools. Phone/Stock ROM Backup or download original too for safety reasons and don't take any step to modify phone settings etc.... until you have collected enough information about it and you are aware of your actions. this will keep you mostly safe for issue/damages.
i hope you knew that to install Rom your phone need to be rooted and bootloader unlocked i think. so read about them and how to flash etc....
well, about problems after rooting.. it depends on problem and then the solution.... and regarding restoring phone after rooting it is only to flash official rom or unroot from tool/method used to root the mobile in case option available, i think.
well, here a link for you.
LINK: Rooting Samsung galaxy trend GT S7392
well, search and read about root, custom recovery, flashing room. and Do not forget to make full phone backup. hope someone reply with better solution.
that's all i can share. hope you get the idea.
Hello i'm new in here and i think this is an awesome forum
Anyway, i'm willing to root my phone but i just don't want to reach the point where my phone got Hard Brick or useless. So how long does rooted phone live? Would it only take a months? because i can read some topics in other forums that their phone got bricked. Why is that happening? Is that normal? And how to avoid soft brick or hard brick? I will not be downloading some Rooted Apps if i root my phone. I just want to use this Wifikill app, dsploit and etc. but i will not be flashing customized ROM or themes. So would it still "soft brick or hard brick" my phone?
Thanks !!!!
Rooting isn't dangerous if you're careful
Hi there, I'm not sure what you mean by "how long does a rooted phone live", but I'll try to answer as best as I can.
Rooted phones 'live' as long as a non-rooted phone, the only risk of rooting a phone is the flashing part. For todays rooting methodes it's actually hard to hardbrick a phone, espescially when you just follow the steps provided by the rooting process.
Hardbricking a phone means that you messed up the flashing soo badly that there is no way to recover the phone. I actually tried on purpose to hardbrick an old SGS3 and even when I removed the USB cable while flashing the recovery, I was still able to revive the phone.
Softbricking however is much more common, but actually quite easy to revive from. All you need to un-brick the device includes having ADB/FastBoot on your PC or access to the recovery.
This way you can allways reflash the recovery or ROM if this gets corrupted.
You'll need a custom recovery to root your phone. You can brick your device if you pick the wrong recovery, but this is easy to check. Always match up the modelnumer of your phone with the one for the recovery.
After the rom has been installed, you'll need to flash the SuperSU zip to succesfully root your device and after that, you're all set.
So, bottomline is: as long as you make sure your phone is fully charged, and your PC won't randomly shutdown (that's why I always flash from a laptop). There is no way you can mess up.
For the lifetime of your phone: If you aren't planning on overclocking, you don't have to worry about shortening the lifetime of the device.
If you're going to root, always make a backup of your data, just in case something does go wrong!
For the apps you're mentioning: Just make sure you use those apps on your own network!
Flashing
So you mean flashing is the most common reason that bricks your phone? What if i want to play games, listens to music, texting or calling, does it brick your phone(soft or hard?)? And is it possible for the unrooted phone to be brick bit by bit if you keep on flashing wrong recovery file? I hope you can answer all my questions
No it's not possible to brick your phone by playing games, music ect. Flashing (Writing another recovery or updating your ROM) is the one and only way to brick your device.
If you flash the wrong recovery image to your device, it will be bricked. It 'should' be fixable in most cases.
The question about unrooted phones... Well, you can flash an custom recovery on your phone and get it bricked that way, but there is no need to flash another recovery if you're not going to root the device afterwards.
So just to clarify, you're not going to brick your device by normal use, rooted or not. The bricking part is when you're installing the recovery and root. When you succesfully rooted your device, there is no way you can brick it, until you're going to install another ROM on your device.
The worst thing that could happen with installing another ROM is getting stuck in a bootloop, but that can be fixed by going into the recovery and reflash(or install, if you prefer that term) the ROM. Unless it's the first time you're installing a custom ROM, in that case you will be stuck in a bootloop because you'll need to wipe the data, system and cache partition before installing a ROM. This prevents getting in a bootloop after installing a new ROM
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Ok so i think i will root my phone tomorrow Im not in a purpose of installing custom ROM or kernel. I just want to use apps like dsploit or wifikill and it needs a proper root access. So its all clear and now i understand how bricky part happen. THANKS !
I am wanting to root my lg g3 that is running lollipop 5.0.1 can anyone give me an idea on what program to use? I would use one of th internet guides but I am new to android and a deathly afraid of bricking my phone because its a 2 year contract phone. Any help would be awesome
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Note that rooting generally will void your warranty. So think hard before preceding. But here is a guide on how to root your device,http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951. Also, I would look through your forum to make sure you know how to return it to stock, including any tamper flags, before you attempt to root. See this,http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3
jd1639 said:
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. Note that rooting generally will void your warranty. So think hard before preceding. But here is a guide on how to root your device,http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-root-lg-firmwares-kitkat-lollipop-t3056951. Also, I would look through your forum to make sure you know how to return it to stock, including any tamper flags, before you attempt to root. See this,http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3
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I am not really worried about returning it to stock so much as I am worried about it bricking during the process. Is there a way I can reset my device after root and keep the root intact? Also my model is the sprint lgls990 if that helps
Thank you for your help so far
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I am not really worried about returning it to stock so much as I am worried about it bricking during the process. Is there a way I can reset my device after root and keep the root intact? Also my model is the sprint lgls990 if that helps
Thank you for your help so far
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Rooting generally won't brick your device. You have to do something really stupid like flashing a Rom or kernel from another device on your phone. But attempting rooting can get your device into a "soft brick" where the phone won't boot. That's when you'll have to flash the factory firmware.
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Rooting generally won't brick your device. You have to do something really stupid like flashing a Rom or kernel from another device on your phone. But attempting rooting can get your device into a "soft brick" where the phone won't boot. That's when you'll have to flash the factory firmware.
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So I would just do the factory reset built into the device then? Sorry for all the questions I'm very new to all this. Its a whole different beast than my iphone lol
You really should do a lot of reading and studying here,http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3 before you do anything with your device. There are many places in there you can ask specific questions. Learning abouti your device is the best thing you can do.
Please read and post in the link I gave you.
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Hi Team,
Prior any play with my new G930FD I want to fully backup all firmware elements like radio, EFS, etc. to bring it back to state as it is now.
Once this is done I can play with adding root, etc.
Thought process was that it should be possible with ODIN, but I can't find a guide treating this subject.
In the past I've used to use Philz Touch on S4 LTE and all worked fine besides I've had troubles to restore NAND backups. Needed to move back from LineageOS to older CyanogenMOD (due to some issues) only to find out that old backup was not working anymore. I've tested backup earlier but it was years ago and didn't re-test procedure anymore.
Since don't want to run into any similar situation that can't revert to state as I'm in now, thought will asks you experts here.
In the past I'd think about process of booting recovery from computer via fastboot, performing required backup to SD card and them doing whatever I'd need to do.
Checking all guides (and believe me I've spent plenty of time trying to find it) all I was finding was that it required root to perform dump, i.e. using su with dd.
I've no issue to type in terminal as used to patch kernel back in times of kernel v2.4.
I just want to make sure that throughout the process of getting root, I'll have always a roll-back procedure and don't want to trip Knox and other flags, whilst if possible keeping OTA access (based on guides here, this should be possible).
Please advise on steps I should take to backup all current data with any tool or point me to place I've missed as I'm sure someone has described it already and I'm just being blind.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi Team,
Prior any play with my new G930FD I want to fully backup all firmware elements like radio, EFS, etc. to bring it back to state as it is now.
Once this is done I can play with adding root, etc.
Thought process was that it should be possible with ODIN, but I can't find a guide treating this subject.
In the past I've used to use Philz Touch on S4 LTE and all worked fine besides I've had troubles to restore NAND backups. Needed to move back from LineageOS to older CyanogenMOD (due to some issues) only to find out that old backup was not working anymore. I've tested backup earlier but it was years ago and didn't re-test procedure anymore.
Since don't want to run into any similar situation that can't revert to state as I'm in now, thought will asks you experts here.
In the past I'd think about process of booting recovery from computer via fastboot, performing required backup to SD card and them doing whatever I'd need to do.
Checking all guides (and believe me I've spent plenty of time trying to find it) all I was finding was that it required root to perform dump, i.e. using su with dd.
I've no issue to type in terminal as used to patch kernel back in times of kernel v2.4.
I just want to make sure that throughout the process of getting root, I'll have always a roll-back procedure and don't want to trip Knox and other flags, whilst if possible keeping OTA access (based on guides here, this should be possible).
Please advise on steps I should take to backup all current data with any tool or point me to place I've missed as I'm sure someone has described it already and I'm just being blind.
Thanks in advance!
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There's a method to do that but I'm afraid it's not for our phone, because you see for the devices that can install twrp with fastboot command you can make a command that only boots twrp "fastboot boot recovery" or something like that, I don't remember clearly,instead of "fastboot flash xxxx" but we can't flash twrp with fastboot so that's impossible for us I think, I strongly advise you not to try these methods because you might end up bricking your device, if you are afraid you might mess up your phone stay away from the root and flashing, AFAIK there's no other method than the one with Odin and formatting data.
Thanks for answer, hoped I was just missing something.
Might be interesting for some people, and in fact for myself too.
I've found out that baseband version I've is not listed at Sammobile:
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-s7/SM-G930FD/
It is:
G930FXXU1DQEJ
Not sure how to proceed should I run into issues?
I do also consider downgrading back to Marshmallow to take advantage of Xposed.
btw. it was all so easy, nice and sweet back in times of my S4 LTE play and now it is all so complicated, that even encryption with root seems to be so, so dangerous. :-S
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Hi Team,
Thanks in advance!
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Maybe this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tool-twrp-backup-restore-tool-pc-t3572241 or https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/general/guide-phone-backup-unlock-root-t1420351
Long time ago... though forgot to make sure I say thank you! I've had laptop OS level issues and missed to say that. Sorry.