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Hello,
In my country I can get the Pixel2 and Huawei P20 at around the same price, P20 being a bit cheaper, depending on the deals.
Now I am aware that Pixel 2 is an older device but it has it's pros.
What I like and dislike about p20:
+ lcd screen without Pulse With Modulation
+ modern design
+ dual cameras
+ fingerprint scanner on the front, making easier to unlock when on my desk
+ fingerprint scanner gestures which allows disabling the nav bar
+ software with customization
- notch, but from what I've read it can be disabled easily
- no stereo
- back glass which can be broken and is slippery
- updates my come slow
What I like and dislike about Pixel2
+ another almost 2 years of updates
+ metal back
+ stereo speakers
- amoled with PWM
- design
Usually reviews tend to be for the P20 Pro, especially long term ones so the P20 is a bit shadowed by it. I do not root or use custom roms. I do like to read on the phone, that is why no PWM comes as an advantage. I also need it to take great pictures without too much config. So if anyone owned P20, can share the downsides compared with Pixel 2? How are the cameras in comparison ? Are there any downsides of Pixel 2 in terms of hardware issues?
Thank you for your time.
Pixel 2, no contest. P20 may be a better device on paper, but it can't stand a chance next to the Pixel 2. My colleague has one, and we've compared the cameras, the Pixel 2 beats P20 in every shot (except maybe zoom on some occasions).
Software wise, ugh. EMUI on the P20 is just garbage and feels like Android KitKat and iOS 7 had a baby. Just no.
So from me, get yourself a Pixel 2 and enjoy.
I love my Pixel 2. I only wish it got some better battery life. It's actually the best size for me. I don't mind the bezel because of the dual stereo speakers.
Thank you very much for your answers.
I use the Pixel 2, owned the p20 for a few months.
It is a tough call, but i would go for the pixel again no question about it. But it depends on what you value more.
The camera on the pixel us much more reliable always good shots . software experience much better. I use gestures on the Pixel ( Fluid NG app).
For me the P20 was better on battery and screen size.the fingerprint gestures are great as well. The speakers better on the pixel of course.
@icstrim1 you mention that the camera on pixel is more reliable, does this mean that on P20 you got bad pictures some times? Or does the P20 require more adjustments before taking a picture? Also the software isn't more customizable that the one on pixel?
alinescoo said:
@icstrim1 you mention that the camera on pixel is more reliable, does this mean that on P20 you got bad pictures some times? Or does the P20 require more adjustments before taking a picture? Also the software isn't more customizable that the one on pixel?
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On the auto mode with Huawei i got bad pictures sometimes, oversharpens a lot especially in rock walls or buildings. Also folliage backround detail looks more realistic on the Pixel.
I couldn't get rid of the oversharpening on the Huawei, there seem to be no real cure for auto mode.
If you take photos of children or landscape, the Pixel is a better choice in my view.
I prefer the clean Android, much smoother , almost addictive. But emui is not too bad.
Thank you o much @icstrim1, very helpful information.
One last question, the P20 has a screen without Pulse With Modulation, while the Pixel's amoled has around 245Hz PWM. Do you notice any eye strain/tiredness or other issues on the pixel's screen vs P20?
Thank you again for your time
You are welcome.
I actually like the oled more, no issues with eye strain.
Let me know if you have other questions.
As I posted in another thread earlier today, even though this Pixel 4XL is a huge disappointment in many ways to me, I still will consider buying it to replace my Nexus 6 - which is still doing decent job for me.
Google has never given us bright display, and this XDA article analyzing Pixel 4 displays explains it pretty well -
My question is - anybody with Pixel 4XL -> have you been able to get high-brightness mode for regular [while outdoors] display? Anyone can try?
To me, the state of pretty much every Google-branded phone and display is a step-behind the leaders. Here, we've got Pixel 4XL with a last-generation display that is dimmer and takes more power than Samsung's latest. And then, Google disables the high-brightness (high-battery-drain) mode - so you can't see the display in bright sunlight. So competitors using the same last-generation display have brighter phones (and better battery life). For me, if I can't see the damn display, it doesn't matter what the battery life is - the phone is unusable for lots of things if you can't see the display.
Recommend reading Dylan Raga's entire article, but here my highlight, and just so sad that Google is so bad in this area:
The Pixel devices have historically been unimpressive when it comes to display brightness. This year is no different. While every other major smartphone maker has made their OLEDs significantly brighter, Google has shown little-to-no progress. Google did manage to increase its newest phones’ brightness this year, from about 400 nits up to 450 nits, but it still leaves them as some of the dimmest flagship smartphones in recent years.
Lack of high brightness mode
The reason Google is so far behind is that they are refusing to incorporate a higher-power brightness state for their system brightness. Furthermore, Google is using last-generation display panels that cannot compete in power efficiency or in rated brightness with Samsung’s latest panels. What’s interesting is that Google has had a higher brightness mode within their phones, which they can tap into during HDR playback (or with root). But for reasons likely related to battery, Google does not allow their phones to use this extra brightness for normal use. Higher brightness modes do require significantly more power to drive — an 800-nit peak brightness state drains significantly more power than twice that of a 400-nit brightness state — but if the competition is able to support higher brightness levels and maintain better battery life than the Pixel devices, then Google is severely falling behind in both departments.
When enabling high brightness mode within the Pixel 4s’, their displays approach acceptable levels of brightness. At 600 nits, this ranks the Google Pixel 4 displays competitively with last years’ OLEDs in brightness. But in 2019, 600 nits is about the baseline for every major smartphone company, while the best are pushing 800 nits (100% APL). These are simply the limits of Google’s outdated panels, as the same panels found in the Huawei Mate 30 Pro and the OnePlus 7 Pro push the same brightness levels — except those phones actually push those brightness levels in normal use.
I'm not sure why it's such a huge disappointment for you, but why would you consider getting it if you dislike it so much?
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I'm not sure why it's such a huge disappointment for you, but why would you consider getting it if you dislike it so much?
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Because there is no phone that has everything I want.
I will not get a phone I can't root - must have unlocked/unlockable bootloader.
I will not get a phone that won't have custom ROM/kernel devs.
So, what's left after those 2 requirements?
I really wanted Asus rog 2 but it's nice not having to front the money pretty happy with the pixel 4xl but hate I have to be vigelent on background processes to keep the battery life
And the screen is a bit dim for direct sunlight but not an issue most of the time
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Because there is no phone that has everything I want.
I will not get a phone I can't root - must have unlocked/unlockable bootloader.
I will not get a phone that won't have custom ROM/kernel devs.
So, what's left after those 2 requirements?
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Realme x2 pro, xiaomi mi 9t pro, both are flagship phones with 855 and unlockable bootloader's and plenty of development
srimay said:
Realme x2 pro, xiaomi mi 9t pro, both are flagship phones with 855 and unlockable bootloader's and plenty of development
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Thanks for that reply.
As I live in a location where Google does not charge re-stocking fee (!) I decided to purchase the deals on the Pixel 4XL.
Then, I decided to also purchase a Pixel 3a XL.
The 4XL has arrived and I have been using it for about 24hrs. There's a huge difference in performance compared to the Nexus 6 - and probably will prefer Android 10 over earlier versions, BUT, there are a lot of things I don't like. And quite a bit shocked at how easily the phone breaks! The JerryRig youtube review shows how easily the phone snaps and breaks in four different places :crying:- here's a writeup with the video embedded at bottom of the page.
(I really enjoyed the video - here's Youtube link this guy has such a calming voice and dry witty humor, and makes a lot of good points about how awful a job Google really did - hinting cannabis may have played a part in Google's decisions - but certainly not a piece that's going to make Pixel 4xl owners feel good...)
I took some photos last night and they turned out horrible. In fact it was so bad I thought there might be some protective shipping plastic on the camera hump. But no, not the case. I guess I need to dig a little more to learn how to take a photo with the included camera app....
I did root the phone, but really super disappointed that /system remains mostly untouchable. And more than a bit annoyed that, if you start initial setup with a SIM installed, a bunch of SYSTEM carrier-bloatware apps are installed during the first-time setup! So you get junk (MyVerizon and more in my case) apps that you can't remove even with root! (This is not unique to this phone - it's Android 10 limitation as best I can tell.) I think this can be avoided if you do the initial setup without a SIM, and then disable the system app the enables this forced stuffing of carrier apps on your phone.
So, since I know I wouldn't want to keep this 4XL for >5 years like I did with the Nexus 6, and since I'd probably want to replace it before next year's hopefully better (although Google has consistently disappointed me ever since Nexus 6) Pixel design, I'm hoping that either the Pixel 3a XL will be 'good enough' or perhaps another of the rootable/dev-supported phones....
That said - there are some things I like or am impressed with -> the sound is pretty good considering the tiny holes - when I saw the holes, I thought no way this phone can have decent audio for music, but it's a lot better than I expected.
The screen is brighter than I expected as well - but I haven't tried it yet in direct sunlight.....
Nice thing about Google is they don't care if you root or unlock and warranty is still in tact. That with the advanced replacement option should there by any warranty issues makes this a no brainer for me.
I told a Google rep on chat the other day I was having an issue with the "oem unlocking" switch greyed out and that should not be the case since I ordered directly from the Google store - I told him I got the phone specifically for rooting and he didn't blink an eye
I saw this TechRadar article today: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/google-pixel-5
"Everything we hope Google will add to the Pixel 5 and Pixel 5 XL"
1. Expand the Google Pixel 5 battery
2. Bring back the fingerprint scanner
3. Add an ultrawide lens to the Pixel 5
4. Give the Pixel 5 a microSD slot
5. Stick with the weird design
Apart from 1, I'm not bothered with any of these. I'd quite like to see an improved implementation of soli gestures.
I'd rather not have a fingerprint scanner as they are prone to accidental touches.
What would be your wishlist for the Pixel 5 / 5 XL?
My preferences would be:
At least a 4000mha battery for the XL.
I would like the FP sensor again.
Definitely would like Led notifications again.
Camera is not a big deal for me. I'm curmudgeon, so I don't take many pics, even of my grandsons?
Base storage starting at 128.
A true amoled black theme for all system apps that match the settings. What's with that? Settings are black, everything else is dark gray?
Go back to single partitions vs a/b for developers and just simple updating...(I know, not going to happen?)
Get rid of logical partitions, and system as read only!!!!!
Price point efficient from the get-go! Why penalize early adopters (your main supporters) and then give $200 off to black Friday folks??
That is all :laugh:
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I saw this TechRadar article today: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/google-pixel-5
"Everything we hope Google will add to the Pixel 5 and Pixel 5 XL"
1. Expand the Google Pixel 5 battery
2. Bring back the fingerprint scanner
3. Add an ultrawide lens to the Pixel 5
4. Give the Pixel 5 a microSD slot
5. Stick with the weird design
Apart from 1, I'm not bothered with any of these. I'd quite like to see an improved implementation of soli gestures.
I'd rather not have a fingerprint scanner as they are prone to accidental touches.
What would be your wishlist for the Pixel 5 / 5 XL?
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Having had Google phone since the Galaxy Nexus days (and upgrading every two years), the Pixel 5 needs:
- larger battery, about 4500 mha at least
- bring back FP scanner, whether it be on the back or under the screen (Qualcomm 865 SD chips have support for this or improved it's design)
- must have a competitive camera vs other flagships
- minimum storage starting at 128 GB
- have an affordable battery replacement program for those that had their phones for 1.5 to 2 years, or have authorized vendors so that the phone can retain its IP68 rating
- priced aggressively to move phones (release price and BF price should be the same)
- carry forward quality design (screen, camera, etc.)
- continue progress with SOLI's development
- make the phone easier to repair (don't pull an Apple)
Larger battery and a larger battery.
Everything else is secondary to me. Camera is fine, speed is fine, size is fine too (I have the P4) That's for the device.
As for Google and Fi sales, automatic price protection for 60 days from purchase. You buy it on October 25th then you get the BF and Christmas sale prices automatically.
And better tech support. If I ask for a supervisor or level 2 support transfer me right away. None of this call back in 24 hour bull****.
Get more apps to work with face unlock such as banking apps, work with the companies.
Keep the price the same, no increase or even a $100 price cut will go a long way in consumer loyalty.
My list is going to be small. I REALLY like this pixel version.
1. Ultrawide camera lens for sure
2. Bring back the wide angle front camera
3. Bring back the bottom front speaker, but keep the chin as minimal as possible
4. A bigger storage option for those who really want/need it
The only thing I miss about the fingerprint sensor is using it to login to apps. By the 5 however, I'm sure most of what I use it for will be using the new API.
To me, the battery is fine. It lasts me ~24 hours with somewhat heavy use. I'm not one to stay out all night (anymore), so this works for me. If they threw a bigger battery in? Coolio. Personally, I just don't need it.
Edit: Google NEEDS to make the pre-order price the same as their black Friday price. I was pissed when I saw it was $200 off a month after I bought it. I like that they did $100 store credit instead of $50, but yeah, it needs to be whatever they drop the price to on BF.
well I'm going to skip pixel 5 just due to the Qualcomm 5g fiasco.. if pixel 5 gets at least 4500mah battery I might consider.
Better price, BIGGER BATTERY, a little over 4,000mah would be nice considering all the sensors because I am assuming that motion sense will be in the 5 as well as well as the 90 hz refresh rate... So Google, c'mon, MORE JUICE! And definitely biometric authentication for more apps... would also like to see faster charging speeds, maybe bump the 18w to 25 or 30w and to top it all off, 128gb as the lower storage model.
I'd say they need to up the ante on their video capture capabilities, it's visibly inferior and behind the curve. I seldom use the video but when I do I'd like it to be flagship grade. Word is we lost the capability for 60 frames to save batt which would bring me to the bigger battery. In this case Apple isn't wrong, phones have gotten small enough and maybe too small as they're hard to hold and often slippery. More battery is a win. Going back to the camera I almost exclusively take pictures of stuff so I don't care about the wide angle personally but it's par for this category of phone and should be there.
Speaking of par 128 is the smallest storage option any flagship should have on offer.
I want my biometric security on the front and capable of lighting off the phone on the desk, don't care if they tart up the face so it works off angle or they go to a front fingerprint scanner in that regard.
Google isn't giving us an SD card and I don't like fairy princess wishes so I'm not going to ask.
I would like a side LED notification light for wallets and upside down phone action and a better AOD that can be afforded with the bigger battery already mentioned above. The Note has that and it's a nice feature. you can see the phone has notifications without even opening the wallet up.
I DO NOT want notches or holes in the screen, do what they can to reduce forehead and chin and it's good enough for me. As a personal observation I don't even notice the big forehead on this phone but I never stop noticing the notches and holes.
I'd like more of Soli myself but my understanding is they have significantly more stuff coming out in updates. It would seem there was an unforeseen boo boo they encountered when transferring the tech over from the pixel 2 frames where it was being tested until the final pixel 4 frame became available. Rumor has it they had developed quite a bit more capability but it wasn't ready for prime time.
True dual Sim like on the Oneplus devices.
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True dual Sim like on the Oneplus devices.
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I rather like the eSim idea much better. Two physical sims seems archaic now that we can program the eSim with software only. Once all carriers go eSim I say get rid of the physical sim or dual physical sim (OnePlus) slot entirely. Now dual radio would be really nice so you could be dual sim dual active but then you'd need a bigger battery for sure. P4 4000 minimum and XL 5000.
- Bigger battery
- Brighter display
- Slightly curved display. I feel it would help make the back gesture feel better to use
- Bigger display
- Bigger earpiece for a more balanced stereo sound (I feel the bottom speaker is louder)
- Bring back the bottom speaker to the front!
- I thought I'd miss a fingerprint scanner but I'm in love with face unlock! Possibly a gen 2 version that improves upon what we have today
- Get to iPhone level with video recording
- Cheaper price especially on launch. I definitely felt cheated when I bought the phone at launch only to see Black Friday deals so shortly after
- Either remove Soli and introduce a different new feature, or allow it to do more. Because right now I find swiping to change songs very gimmicky. Waving for alarms and phone calls is always hit or miss for me as well. The only good that came out of it is reaching to wake phone. But even this is not too different/better than a simple lift to wake phone
- Bonus longshot of what I'd want: getting rid of this scoped storage/logical partition stuff that makes rooting/custom development so much more difficult! No TWRP or modifying the system partition is rough on us but more importantly, the awesome devs that bring all these things to us!
Ultrawide, 5G mmw, bigger battery, and ditch the bezel. Something that won't be embarrassed by earlier 2020 phones or especially OnePlus again.
Front facing stereo speakers.
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- Larger REMOVABLE battery.
It's ridiculous that electronics this expensive have sealed batteries which limit their usability to the life span of the battery. Ridiculous.
The following things i would like to see
1) Bigger battery 4000+
2) Base storage 128gb
3) UFS 3.0
4) Flat display like 4XL
5) Similar design but improved strength should not bread like 4xl
6) Brighter display and 90hz all time
7)Triple lens camera system + 12mp Selfie Cam
8) Minimal bezel like Sony 1 or Note 9
I don't want fingerprint scanner.
I want bigger storage, better camera, improved display (90hz/brightness), better screen to body ratio - more modern look, better CPU (yes it would need to shift the date of announcement, but they are alway using a 9-10 month old CPU, and after 2-3 month other flagships are coming with the next gen chipset), faster charging
- Improved motionsense (custom gestures, more stable, open api for developers)
- Either more storage 128gb+ or the free photo storage for at least 2-3 years
- Better battery (no specific mha, just around 20% better)
- Fast charging
- Icon themes in pixel launcher
- Google Assistant v2 (or whatever shipped with the P4) in more languages, including German
- Keep the sensors at the top unless ALL sensors can be put below the screen. DO NOT go back to notches, they're terrible.
- Ship an actual recovery with the phone. I'm not asking for an official TWRP, but ANY recovery that can flash zip files without adb/fastboot
1. A bigger battery isn’t needed imo but better optimization (what Apple has been doing with the iPhone for years) would be great.
2. Brighter, better upgraded display(90 & 120hz)
3. Continued improvement and more soli based gestures
4. Ultra wide camera lens
5. 128gb base storage with 256gb & 512gb options
6. Improve face unlock
7. 4K 24fps recording front & rear cameras as well as an option to record and take photos in raw format
8. Great job on the RCS messaging feature but google needs to start working on an airdrop alternative for android
9. Do not, I repeat, DO NOT add any kind of notch. Keep the top bezel if need be! PLEASE!
10. Add some more Ui customization natively into android and take back that crown from Samsung.
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1. Fingerprint sensor. It's unbelievably convenient just unlocking quickly and pulling the notification bar down without needing to reach sometimes. Give us the freedom to use either fp, face unlock, or both.
2. Front facing speakers.
3. No notch with said speakers.
4. Might as well make the phone thicker for a bigger battery and *no* protruding camera lens.
5. 128gb should be the starting storage size.
6. More RAM.
7. Ultrawide
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LED LED LED LED LED
And make the LED configurable. Those that don't want it can switch it off.
Move the power button. I still don't know which button to press without thinking about it/looking.
And stop waking up when I put the phone down on the sofa.
And most of all, don't give us a 30 minute "bestest-phone-ever" presentation at the phone's launch when you should have said "we think we know best and as a result, won't bother listening to what our customers say". For proof of that, see the posts above.
So, according to the new store page, in comparison to the pixel 4/xl they cut
- Soli
- Faceunlock
- Pixel Neural Core (WHAT?! Why?!)
- Tele-Lens
- Highend Chipset
- Active Edge
- QHD+ Display (from 537 ppi down to 432 ppi )
- ip68 rating (ty u/kelderic, reddit)
And they 'gave' us
+ bigger battery
+ fingerprint (why not both?!)
+ 5G
+ wide (remember Google from last year? "We don't need wide, tele is good")
- Measly +2 GB Ram, still no storage available beyond 128 GB
What do you guys think 'bout that?
Compared to the Pixel 4/xl this just feels like a downgrade, even to the Pixel 3xl it's no real upgrade. Most people who think budget will not turn to this phone and the highend-spenders will not be pleased by this. I don't see googles angle hear, however they haven't shown any good angle recently anyway. And the heck did they remove the neural core? Plus getting a weaker soc.. just madnes.
Apparently neural core made face unlock work quicker so no loss there.
About the only thing I would prefer is higher ppi but I sure don't want to spend $1000 to get it.
My next phone will be 5G so pixel 4/xl aren't an option.
If it's not enough bang for the buck then just wait for black Friday and/or opt for the 4a 5G.
Google phones have never been the best phone for everyone.
Most likely the machine learning Ai stuff is included in the snapdragon 765 so no more dedicated chip is necessary. I would not worry too much
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Most likely the machine learning Ai stuff is included in the snapdragon 765 so no more dedicated chip is necessary. I would not worry too much
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No it is not included. Where did you get that idea?
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No it is not included. Where did you get that idea?
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https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-765-specs-1059745/
"Finally, Qualcomm’s fifth-gen AI engine is ported over partially intact, with a Hexagon 696 DSP with a dedicated Tensor Accelerator. The setup sports 5.5TOPS of AI compute."
So still I don't know what Google are using but they wouldn't get rid of it if it impacts performance much. So I don't worry
The Samsung S20FE will be competition at the same MSRP, includes Snapdragon 865, 120hz display, 4500mah battery. Appears to be on sale for $599. Of course it isn't a clean google phone.
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https://www.androidauthority.com/qualcomm-snapdragon-765-specs-1059745/
"Finally, Qualcomm’s fifth-gen AI engine is ported over partially intact, with a Hexagon 696 DSP with a dedicated Tensor Accelerator. The setup sports 5.5TOPS of AI compute."
So still I don't know what Google are using but they wouldn't get rid of it if it impacts performance much. So I don't worry
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Seems to be the case https://m.gsmarena.com/the_new_pixe...nt_mean_they_lack_the_features-news-45589.php
The pro is the camera will be brilliant and it's running stock android.
Pretty much everything else about the pixel 5 sucks
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The pro is the camera will be brilliant and it's running stock android.
Pretty much everything else about the pixel 5 sucks
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Yeah, good battery life, more than enough processing power for non gamers really sucks
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Yeah, good battery life, more than enough processing power for non gamers really sucks
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Good battery life remains to be seen.
I stand by my original statement, however I suppose I could have made it more clear...for a mid ranger it's fine.
For a flagship (which it isnt). It sucks.
Better?
Pros:
A pure Google software experience
Fingerprint sensor is back( no more awful face unlock)
1080p screen
4080mAh battery
Aluminum back (well, mostly)
Cons:
That awful hole punch (that has me considering canceling my order)
Ultra wide camera replacing the telephoto
Too big
Slow processor
Active edge is gone
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Sure, we technically don't know what the battery life will be but just knowing a little bit about phone hardware and some common sense indicates that the battery life should be pretty good.
The biggest battery drain on any phone is the screen mainly due to the screen resolution. So take the Pixel 4 XL for example. The battery life wasn't too bad but not great either. Now increase the size of the battery 10%, decrease the number of pixels by 42%(that alone is huge), decrease the overall screen area by 11%, add in a slightly more power efficient processor, remove Soli and remove face unlock and you basically have the Pixel 5. The only thing really working against the Pixel 5 in terms of battery life is the 5G which I'm going to turn off anyways. I have no concerns about the battery life of the Pixel 5.
The more interesting comparison is to the 4a. A significant price difference but both are a similar size and real world performance would be similar too.
This just leaves wireless charging, IP and maybe 90hz as the tangible differences you would notice day to day. Maybe it will feel more premium in hand too but that is hard to know right now.
I got the 4a with the intention of giving it to one of my parents with the 5 landed, I am now hesitating though as the 4a is terrific and I am not sure the 5 is £250 better.
great battery life great phone.
I have only had my pixel 5 for a week and i am super impressed with the battery life. I have been getting 3 days out of it . At the moment it has 25 % left and it's used 8 hours and 26 minutes of screen use , that's using google to simply surf the net and as I am a distribution driver i use Google Maps daily, I also make multiple calls daily and use Bluetooth all day for my vans multi media unit and my zenwatch 3 all day I am 61 years old so I have had tons of phones and I have to say i think this phone stacks up with the best including the Asus rog 3
Pros: Battery, form factor/weight, software.
Con: Price for what is being offered. The speakers are just OK. The gap issue from production quality. Luckily I was able to get my P5 for net cost of about 461 including tax after stacking a bunch of promos, etc. Also no gap issue on mine.
I'm not an iPhone fanatic so I have nothing to say about the iPhone 12. The only phone that I currently have and would recommend is the S20FE, but not at MSRP AND if it doesn't have these touch screen issues that people are talking about. Only thing with Samsung phones is that you have to spend additional time to customize to your liking and reducing bloat. I was also pleasantly surprised with the camera qualify after making settings adjustments to reduce saturation and softening in photos.
After using mine for about a week, I am kind of regretting trading in my 4XL for one reason....the ear speaker quality. It is literally the worst sounding earpiece and is extremely quiet relative to my 4XL. I was driving on the highway yesterday and could barely hear my client on the other end. Had to plug in my wired headset. Unacceptable. I will probably send in for a new unit to see if its any better, but everyone seems to have the same comment as I.
I can settle with almost every concession Google took, and I do think the fingerprint is a big welcome back feature. I hate face unlock especially with having to wear masks. Never made sense to me. The hole punch doesnt both me.
As far as Active edge is concerned. I guess, apparently the feature isn't 'official' on the Pixel 5.
Check the apps,mods section here on xda.
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Pros: Battery, form factor/weight, software.
Con: Price for what is being offered. The speakers are just OK. The gap issue from production quality. Luckily I was able to get my P5 for net cost of about 461 including tax after stacking a bunch of promos, etc. Also no gap issue on mine.
I'm not an iPhone fanatic so I have nothing to say about the iPhone 12. The only phone that I currently have and would recommend is the S20FE, but not at MSRP AND if it doesn't have these touch screen issues that people are talking about. Only thing with Samsung phones is that you have to spend additional time to customize to your liking and reducing bloat. I was also pleasantly surprised with the camera qualify after making settings adjustments to reduce saturation and softening in photos.
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I've sold my FE for the Pixel. The screen issues are annoying albeit the last update seems to have sorted it, but I just cannot live with the Samsung nonsense like cannot delete Samsung photos app and playing a dance to get to Google Photos
It's a great phone the FE but not when you are Googled up for home and work and can't be bothered working around 2 of everything
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I've sold my FE for the Pixel. The screen issues are annoying albeit the last update seems to have sorted it, but I just cannot live with the Samsung nonsense like cannot delete Samsung photos app and playing a dance to get to Google Photos
It's a great phone the FE but not when you are Googled up for home and work and can't be bothered working around 2 of everything
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The Pixel 5 is great. It just works out of the box. I'm enjoying mine and it has been a couple of weeks. You can debloat Samsung, but obviously that's additional steps. It's not hard, but quite frankly I just don't want to invest time with custom ROMs, adb commands, etc. Those days are long gone lol.
No me neither, I don't even want to root phones anymore can't be bothered
The FE would be a winner of Samsung ran stock Android
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Davey Dual Sim said:
No me neither, I don't even want to root phones anymore can't be bothered
The FE would be a winner of Samsung ran stock Android
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A bit true..but this would never happen. Htc had 1 model with 2 versions ...one with htc software and one with google only ...
I was eagerly waiting for the OnePlus 9 Pro, because I have become a OnePlus guy. Unfortunately, I can't get use to having a camera hole cut out, on the screen. If I must put up with it, then the hole must be centered and not off to the side. I was hoping OP would have continued the OP 7 Pro thing or figured out the under the screen technology.
Anyhow, what I am looking for:
No camera hole punch out (even if it means I must have a little bezel). If the camera hole is on the screen, it needs to be centered.
Big screen
Android based, with easy to unlock bootloader (ideally a company that supports it like OnePlus)
5G compatible
Lots of ram, fast processor, lots of disk storage - aka i want a flagship/top of the line.
Something with screen burn-in protection technology
Good camera
Works with T-Mobile in the USA
Although I love a good deal, I am not too concern about the price tag (as long as it is reasonable, like less than $1200 USD).
That said, any recommendations? I also don't mind waiting for OnePlus 9t Pro if there is any solid rumors that they will do something special to the front facing camera.
I am currently using a OnePlus 5t and although I like the phone, issues are starting to arise (issue with VoLTE and certain Bluetooth headsets, screen burn-in, etc).
Any advice would be much appreciated .
That's a lot of money, you can buy a Galaxy S21 Ultra, you'll love it. There's no burn-in proof display, it can be avoided by shifting on the screen pixels, so it's a software thing, you don't have to worry too much, unless you have a bad habit of keeping the screen on all night.
You can also check midrange devices, usually you won't feel any difference, for an example, there's Redmi Note 10, Galaxy A72, Galaxy A52, offering large displays, fast processors, at least 6 GBs of RAM, up to 256 GB of storage, and even 5G support for some models.
All that for less than 500$ (my cousin got brand new RN10 for 200$). Cameras are not a thing to worry about anymore. However, One Plus 9T Pro's front facing camera setup is a bit strange, you should avoid it if the rumours are true.
mkhcb said:
I was eagerly waiting for the OnePlus 9 Pro, because I have become a OnePlus guy. Unfortunately, I can't get use to having a camera hole cut out, on the screen. If I must put up with it, then the hole must be centered and not off to the side. I was hoping OP would have continued the OP 7 Pro thing or figured out the under the screen technology.
Anyhow, what I am looking for:
No camera hole punch out (even if it means I must have a little bezel). If the camera hole is on the screen, it needs to be centered.
Big screen
Android based, with easy to unlock bootloader (ideally a company that supports it like OnePlus)
5G compatible
Lots of ram, fast processor, lots of disk storage - aka i want a flagship/top of the line.
Something with screen burn-in protection technology
Good camera
Works with T-Mobile in the USA
Although I love a good deal, I am not too concern about the price tag (as long as it is reasonable, like less than $1200 USD).
That said, any recommendations? I also don't mind waiting for OnePlus 9t Pro if there is any solid rumors that they will do something special to the front facing camera.
I am currently using a OnePlus 5t and although I like the phone, issues are starting to arise (issue with VoLTE and certain Bluetooth headsets, screen burn-in, etc).
Any advice would be much appreciated .
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It's a lot of money, for this you will get the top of the top, personally I won't do it but it's up to you.
For considerably less money you can get very good devices covering from the 1 to the 7 of your questions, just I don't know the 8th.
For example comes to my mind the Galaxy Note 10 (although it's 2 years old), the Galaxy S20, but I would go for a Xiaomi Mi 11.
mkhcb said:
3. Android based, with easy to unlock bootloader (ideally a company that supports it like OnePlus)
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Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco or OnePlus.
Xiaomi/Redmi/Poco still have warranty coverage after bootloader unlock. Double check warranty policy youself on their website though, may vary between countries and region.