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Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I don’t know what’s going on. I am running stock.
The Newest apps I downloaded were comicbook reader, Spotify and Netflix, but that shouldn’t matter right? Because my mobile data is off
that sounds about average to me. since its stock, i would just put Juice Defender on it and leave it set to "balanced", then see where youre at battery wise.
additionally, you could try Watchdog to see if theres any background apps that are consuming a ton of cpu(it can happen)
voxigenboy said:
that sounds about average to me. since its stock, i would just put Juice Defender on it and leave it set to "balanced", then see where youre at battery wise.
additionally, you could try Watchdog to see if theres any background apps that are consuming a ton of cpu(it can happen)
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Thanks alot man..will get those apps and report back in a few days
Funny thing is this seems like its just started out of nowhere. I had my phone since launch and never had this problem.
mbrown3460 said:
Funny thing is this seems like its just started out of nowhere. I had my phone since launch and never had this problem.
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do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
i had that happen to my old Galaxy S 4G & when i went to get a new battery they confirmed that that was the culprit.
You need to go into settings/ power/ and uncheck fast reboot . It runs all the time and eats up battery.
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voxigenboy said:
do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
i had that happen to my old Galaxy S 4G & when i went to get a new battery they confirmed that that was the culprit.
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no only charge my phone on the wall or PC. Wow I didnt know I can leave my phone plugged I thought my battery would be damaged if I left it plugged in.
jbh00jh said:
You need to go into settings/ power/ and uncheck fast reboot . It runs all the time and eats up battery.
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fast reboot is not checked in my settings.
phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
yareally said:
phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
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Yep TWS is the biggest culprit of battery drainage on these Android phones. If you're in a poor reception area, you're SOL because the phone will eat through the battery searching for a signal. I have an Epic and have similar battery drain issues due to this.
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phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
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hmmm you might be on to something. Don't get good reception at home and my reception is ok at work, not perfect tho.
mbrown3460 said:
Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I dont know whats going on. I am running stock.
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First, you should seriously consider rooting, then flash a custom rom & kernel. The stock rom is no battery sipper, and custom roms & kernels are much more efficient. I was getting ridiculous overnight drain (>20%) on stock, but now I'm getting only 1% per hour (6-8%). Also, grab Autostarts from the market. It prevents unnecessary apps from launching in the background & wasting battery (& memory)
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mbrown3460 said:
hmmm you might be on to something. Don't get good reception at home and my reception is ok at work, not perfect tho.
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It'll show in the about stats when you press on the phone usage stats how long it was without a signal if you want to look (in case you weren't aware). Also I would make sure your phone is set to use wifi when sleeping always and not mobile (under wifi settings → press menu → go to advanced).
yareally said:
It'll show in the about stats when you press on the phone usage stats how long it was without a signal if you want to look (in case you weren't aware). Also I would make sure your phone is set to use wifi when sleeping always and not mobile (under wifi settings → press menu → go to advanced).
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My mobile data off when I'm at work. So pulled my phone off at 6 am, made one call, checked my email and now I'm down to 93 percent. This is just ridiculous seems like my battery getting worst by the day.
I'm at home now on WiFi...my mobile data is usually off all day at work. Watch dog only alerted me to dolphin browser and I always close that out when I'm finished. I don't know what's going on.
Why do I need to baby sit my phone to get good battery life?
voxigenboy said:
do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
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This is not correct. The battery charge is controlled by the phone itself. the battery also has some electronics in it to limit the charge. The car charger provides 5 volts just like any USB port. You can (and I have) leave phone plugged into a car charger with no issues.
It is true that you should avoid charging the phone when it is HOT. So leaving it in a HOT car or any place HOT is a bad idea.
Checked the settings and my phone is using 3% battery life while it is idle. So I shouldn't be losing so much power. Is my battery damaged?
Yep, backing this guy up. The battery has it built in where it'll cut off the charge after it's full- and android has it that after it reaches 100% it'll let it drain down to ~90% because keeping it at 100% for extended periods of time is bad for the battery health.
For those more interested in your phone's battery and how charging works, check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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If you're losing battery life when you're idle you have a few main reasons.
- First check to make sure you have a low min. set for your CPU, you don't want to have your CPU rev'd all the way up all the time- it's just not good.
- Download "spare parts" and check under "battery history" and you'll be able to see if you have a lot of GPS usage, data usage, CPU usage, etc.
- I'm not sure if mobile data turns both 4G and 3G off. I know the 4G here totally demolishes the battery, even more if you don't have it in your area.
If you don't have 4G and would like to save your battery from a painful death, do this (easy to change back)
*#*#4636#*#* -- Go to "Phone Settings" >> change to "CDMA auto (PRL)"
This will turn off 4G and stop it from searching, while still allowing you to use 3G and not have to turn off all data.
Hope at least one of those points helped you out and hope you get some better life because that's pretty bad, shouldn't be normal.
mbrown3460 said:
Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I don’t know what’s going on. I am running stock.
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Losing 5%/hour is normal for my phone when it's sitting doing nothing. The battery is a joke. I have Juice Defender Ultimate and that brings it down to maybe 2-3%/hour.
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Just curious if anyone have tried anything similar? I last used the phone around 1-2 hours before it happened, when I picked it up the screen was black. Tried holding the power button for 10+ seconds and also tried plug it to power, but didn't help at all.
Anything I could try else?
Might mention that lately it have been using quite some battery. Like 20% over an night, with nothing turned on. (GPS, mobile data and so on was off and greenifyed every app. So yeah, might be my battery.
Maybe it's frozen. I made mine freeze when I told tasker to copy all my files to the sdcard wich kept copying till my internal memory was full and the phone froze. Try holding the power + volume up button in you should feel it vibrate 3 time the try switch it on again.
I noticed battery drains quickly when using the camera especially ar effects this also comes with a overheat warning so it obviously uses allot of cpu to generate the effects.
I'm not sure if it will help but try running the battery completely flat then charge it full without breaks and then completely discharge and charge with no breaks again and see if it helps.
Also look into power saving features. Under settings.
If the arrow up key and power button doesn't work, Under the microsd compartment is a yellow or red reset/power off button, like a battery pull
It was frozen it seems. I thought that holding the power button for 7+ seconds did the trick, as it works on other phones. But well thanks for it.
But then again, the phone should not use 20% over an night. Power settings or not. 5% at max. NOTHING is running at all and all settings is off... GPS, data and so on. So it should stay at 100%.
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It was frozen it seems. I thought that holding the power button for 7+ seconds did the trick, as it works on other phones. But well thanks for it.
But then again, the phone should not use 20% over an night. Power settings or not. 5% at max. NOTHING is running at all and all settings is off... GPS, data and so on. So it should stay at 100%.
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It's never true that "nothing is running at all". If it's not turned off then clearly it's not going to use 0% (that would be a violation of basic laws of physics), because there's an operating system with services etc, and unless you're in airplane mode it's waiting for a call/text, and part of the OS is listening for messages (facebook, OS updates etc).
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It's never true that "nothing is running at all". If it's not turned off then clearly it's not going to use 0% (that would be a violation of basic laws of physics), because there's an operating system with services etc, and unless you're in airplane mode it's waiting for a call/text, and part of the OS is listening for messages (facebook, OS updates etc).
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I know it of course would just 0.1% atleast.. Always. I also know that there is always something running. But my older phones, my GS5 and my Z3 when I first got it (after installing apps) it could stay at 100% over an night. Of course it will be 99.7% or something like that.
What I just mean, is that it told me it was on 100% and used almost nothing. Now it uses a damn lot.
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I know it of course would just 0.1% atleast.. Always. I also know that there is always something running. But my older phones, my GS5 and my Z3 when I first got it (after installing apps) it could stay at 100% over an night. Of course it will be 99.7% or something like that.
What I just mean, is that it told me it was on 100% and used almost nothing. Now it uses a damn lot.
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What did the battery option tell you was responsible for the usage?
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What did the battery option tell you was responsible for the usage?
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Phone signal. 1/5 signal strength. But I always had that where I live and that normally used 3-7% over an night.
I have had it in the charger the other night, but will try leave it on tonight and see how that goes.
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
Battery life is relatively unchanged in mine after the mm update. Easily make it through the entire day with 50-60% battery life remaining. I disabled a whole bunch of the bloatware (and will be removing it entirely when I decide to root my phone) and battery life is wonderful.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Mine has been fine, slightly better with doze/disabling packages. Do a back up through Smart Switch and try a factory reset. I do that every time I update.
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
shaels said:
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I will recommend "Package Disabler Pro" to disable bloatware. Costs but is worth the cash.
Mine went through on Thursday and so far battery appears ok.
I have noticed however the lighting is messed up all over. Play books night light feature is broken and dims it to unrecognizable levels. I have to go into the settings again when in the book and disable auto lighting and manually raise it. When back at the list of books screen, the brightness drops to nearly off again.
Also it seems the notifications when listening to music are much louder. I could listen to mp3s via poweramp while reading a book and get an SMS text and itd be a light little sound. this is playing louder than my music and very annoying.
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
All thoughtful replies. I don't have Location on ever, unless I'm using Waze, so that's a non-issue for me. Allowing WiFi to sleep when the phone is off, while I'm only connecting via WiFi, effectively makes my smartphone a dumb phone, until I wake it up, right? The fact that I need to start changing around "normal" settings on my phone, to lesser benefiting ones, to get back to the battery life I had before I installed MM is pretty silly. I've been hoping things would settle down, but they don't. I can try using SmartSwitch later to see if that helps.
Steamer86 said:
1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
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No, it will connect LTE and then switch to wifi. LTE use more battery life, the network switch uses a bit, then finally you are into wifi. If your phone wakelocks or alarms(location ping, play service ping, etc) it will use more battery than wifi always on. Personally, I've tested both to make sure a wifi wakelock bug hasn't been introduced as I do with every update and play service update(it does happen and it's horrible drain). I see more savings always on.
If you meant you disable mobile network, yes, dumb phone, text and call. Also, I disable mobile usually always as I piggyback off work cell at work, and always wifi at home. I only toggle mobile data when necessary.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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I believe this is what most people encounter. Most dont have unlimited data and use WIFI always. I think by default, WIFI is set to always on, even when phone screen is off. WIFI will rape your battery. I did my own tests with wifi vs 4g and just by using my 4g all the time, battery quadrupled. Many argued that WIFI uses less battery, and i have the best of the best wifi router/modem/isp with 5ghz ac excellent coverage. Not the case for me. I have unlimited and just stick with that now. Battery life on MM has been great for me.
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Been on MM for about five days now and my battery blows, so much worse than what it was!
musicfreak190 said:
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Mine is exactly 4 times worse
Battery the same.
But I have to tap the screen harder to chose app.
Going to factory reset and start clean, been a while.
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Not that I know of.
Though they JUST released Marshmallow. Verizon is probably still patting themselves on the back even though they released several months late. What I'm waiting for is a miraculous root.
I never use my phone the same amount every day, so it's hard to say exactly what kind of battery life I get, but I have noticed that it has improved. I would usually be near 15% by 10pm after coming off charger at 6am. Now I float around 25% at 10pm. So it seems to be better, even if only slightly so.
I see a minimal improvement, but I was doing what I could without root prior to sleep unnecessary crap.
Weird, when thye MM updated happened, up until the last two days, I was getting much better battery life under MM. But the past few days my battery life has declined dramatically to the point that I am not getting through a day of minimal use. Screen only 2%, Android OS consuming 76%.
I just fiddled with settings (Changed Wifi sleep to While Charging; Turned off wifi scanning). I am going to also try a reboot to see if that helps. I swear it started just about the time I started looking at Nexus 6p replacements).
Update, rebooting, and removing a few more useless apps and battery life has returned.
Been having really bad drain issues on standby so decided to experiment. I've possible cured my phone from the drain issue. It involves an 18 watt charger and the usb cable (obviously). First plug your phone and charge until it says full in battery app. Second switch off phone leaving it on charger, wait another 5 mins just to make sure the phone reads the battery as full.
Third, now press vol up and vol down plus power button together keeping hold of them until the phone reboots at least 4 times, wait for to shortest reboots and let go, power up and wait for battery to say full and then wipe the device health services app completely including the ambient light data.
Reboot again if you want to while your still plugged into charger and wait minimum 12 hours like a new battery should be charged
Hopefully you cured the idle drain, if not,try install the device health services beta app on apk mirror and wipe the app again, hopefully that should be fixed, if not then your issue is completely different to mine.
Also make sure that you don't have any sound connected apps that are jamming the on the sound in background. If you did it right you should notice a clean slate in the battery app with the amount of days the phone was built or preset.
Mine said last full charge 55 days ago.
Cannot be done without charger and cable.
Or you can just reset device health services without doing the button press, i just wanted to start a fresh.
Just an update, my phone is 38 hours in with 45% battery.Just idle with minimum use, a few phone calls and updating of apps, half hour screen on all activity. Now i would say this is miraculous considering the phone was draining 1% every few mins. Even a factory reset and ota didnt fix it. PLease be aware that im not providing a miraculous cure for everyones battery drain, and not responsible if it doesnt work for you, i think a few ppl will gain from it aswell as few ppl wont gain from it. LET me know your experience after trying.
From what i can gather device health services wasnt working as it should and was killing my battery.
This looks like witchcraft. What is rationale behind your spells?
BTW, if you reboot the phone 12 times, you might get 3x the battery life. Even better, then charge it for 48 hours to get 6x battery life. I think we're on to something, but I am not sure what it is..?
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MArtyChubbs said:
This looks like witchcraft. What is rationale behind your spells?
BTW, if you reboot the phone 12 times, you might get 3x the battery life. Even better, then charge it for 48 hours to get 6x battery life. I think we're on to something, but I am not sure what it is..?
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your funny, look it up. Theres a bug in device health services, causes the phone not to sleep properly, the other part of holding the buttons returns the phone back to factory preset calibration, hence hardware. You will see when holding the power buttons normally it takes 10 seconds to reboot, still holding the buttons it will cycle faster on the next reboot, i suggested 4 times to make sure its done. If try it without the charger and cable, it does nothing, wont even reboot.
The 12/24 hours i mentioned is to charge like you would a brandnew phone.
No one has to do it if they dont want to, im just sharing.
If i was conning ppl xda dev would of removed it or flagged it.
Im not pushing for extra batterylife, normal operation is what i was looking at.
Ive updated the device health services from apk mirror, now battery drain is back. That just proves my theory of the app bugged up. Have to reset the stats again and hope it fixes it, again.
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your funny, look it up. Theres a bug in device health services, causes the phone not to sleep properly, the other part of holding the buttons returns the phone back to factory preset calibration, hence hardware. You will see when holding the power buttons normally it takes 10 seconds to reboot, still holding the buttons it will cycle faster on the next reboot, i suggested 4 times to make sure its done. If try it without the charger and cable, it does nothing, wont even reboot.
The 12/24 hours i mentioned is to charge like you would a brandnew phone.
No one has to do it if they dont want to, im just sharing.
If i was conning ppl xda dev would of removed it or flagged it.
Im not pushing for extra batterylife, normal operation is what i was looking at.
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"your funny" made my day. Thanks brother!
And I appreciate your explanation. Good read[emoji6]
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ive had no look in using the playstore device health services, battery is back to draining 2% every few minutes, the latest version on apk mirror or the beta are the only ones that work properly, battery stats wont even populate on the main battery usage tab. just says unavailable. So, if anyone as got the issue where the stats dont show on main battery usage , download the beta or the latest device health service app, install it and reset the battery stats. Hopefully the stats will show and drain as gone. Ive had best results in the beta.
This the latest version, not reset stats yet, just wanted to show what stats weren't showing untill I update the app.
This what you get when battery stats are cleared
This is an example.
what does your battery app say for screen on and idle time on full battery?
This is the dumbest thread a long time. What the actual f**** you're talking about? Uninstall that crappy Cloud app that runs for 12hrs and draining you battery. Look at your own provided screens.
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This is the dumbest thread a long time. What the actual f**** you're talking about? Uninstall that crappy Cloud app that runs for 12hrs and draining you battery. Look at your own provided screens.
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The cloud app as got nothing to do with what i'm doing, it doesn't drain my battery. The screen shots are examples. I could as easily say your post is the dumbest post i've seen in a long time, as you don't even know what i'm on about. 1% of my battery in 12 hours is not draining the battery. Easiest thing for you to do is just ignore this thread.
This is my idle state usage after clearing stats and unsticking device health services
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This is my idle state usage after clearing stats and unsticking device health services
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Post your real stats nub, that screens tells us nothing
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Post your real stats nub, that screens tells us nothing
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Its idle state, not use the phone state. The infos there for idle(not using the phone) state. There was only one app in app usage tab, carrier settings used 3%,if you turn on wifi the carrier settings doesn't use battery at all, total usage was screen, idle, carrier settings and playservices.
You can tell when device health services is stuck, the phone is always warm, never cold. Hoping android 10 as fixed it, but i doubt it.
Do you still have this issue? According to AccuBattery my phone drains about 5% per hour.
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Do you still have this issue? According to AccuBattery my phone drains about 5% per hour.
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Not now, seems to have solved it. If you wish to try it, after you done the steps on android 10, open app usage tab and look on the graph to see if phones gone back to factory state, it will read something like 20 or 30 days ago last charge. Keep an eye on the population of the battery app and check if phones cold in standby.
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This what you get when battery stats are cleared
This is an example.
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Is this supposed to show before or after the 12 hours charge? Done all the steps. 4 reboots with the buttons pressed, then installed this beta on the link below and clear the data of the app, but the battery data looks normal to me.
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...1-9-0-247950067-release-android-apk-download/
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Forget about it. Just show 43 days at the graphic. Will charge it for 8 hours for now and use the phone like always. Will post the results.
I have all the bells and whistles turned off, uninstalled a ton of bloatware via ADB commands, and everything's been fine - great battery life. But then I charged up to 100% last night and when I awoke it was at 80%, then by 12 noon i was at 64% and this was with battery saver turned on. I checked battery usage and nothing was amiss. I don't get it, how is my battery draining so fast when I'm not even using it? There wasn't any firmware update, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is.
So I reset the phone and set it up again, charged it back to 100%, then lost 4% in 90 minutes without even touching it. I'm guessing it's a hardware/battery problem.
Anyone else having this issue?
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Google backup Transport and Playstore are dependencies of it. Backup Transport can do this. Normally I keep Play Services disabled unless I need it.
blackhawk said:
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Google backup Transport and Playstore are dependencies of it. Backup Transport can do this. Normally I keep Play Services disabled unless I need it.
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I've just charged to 100%, heading to bed. If I wake up and I have excessive drain again, I'm going to try your suggestion. Thanks for the tip!
Well still had huge battery drain with play services disabled. I factory reset yet again, removed all the bloatware I could, yet a charge to 100% is down to 94% after 2 hours of just sitting on table. I got a lemon. This is a straight talk pre-pay phone, so I'm not sure what to do next.
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Well still had huge battery drain with play services disabled. I factory reset yet again, removed all the bloatware I could, yet a charge to 100% is down to 94% after 2 hours of just sitting on table. I got a lemon. This is a straight talk pre-pay phone, so I'm not sure what to do next.
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Disabling Google play Services may not fully stop the Backup Transport drain....
You need to find the apps causing the power drain, this is common on Samsung's.
Disable adaptive battery and the other power management junk*.
Factory resets are generally worthless; you need to find the root causes!!!
Disable only apps that are proven power hogs or are just to terrible to look at like Digital Wellbeing. If you disable a service needed by an app it may constantly keep polling for it. Use discression on what is removed.
Install a logging firewall if you can or otherwise see what apps are using bandwidth. Kill by altering their settings ie no background data/battery.
All cloud apps will likely be hogs. Social media apps shouldn't be on the device. Activate Developer options and use its tools. Use the tools in Device Care.
Turn off all Google, Samsung and carrier feedback. Android 12 may give tracking tools as well, I don't run anything higher than 10.
For logging firewall, there's this one I'm using nowadays. Show you how many requests all your apps do (spoiler : it's a lot)
DrTovalds42 said:
For logging firewall, there's this one I'm using nowadays. Show you how many requests all your apps do (spoiler : it's a lot)
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I have no idea what im looking at with that app. I'm losing 2% battery per hour overnight with it sitting on my nightstand. The only things i see being used is "google play store" , " play services". "netd" & weather. I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
I did a factory reset yesterday, removed all the bloat (disabled or uninstalled) everything not needed that the phone would let me. I used ADB to set RAM + to zero only. This drain started 2 days ago and there's been no updates so I'm at a loss & actually think its a hardware problem. Phone is only 3 weeks old. I contacted Straight talk and they said I have send phone in and they'll send me a used one once they get it. I'm pissed.
I hope you are aware of the risks with uninstalling "bloatware" with ADB. This may result in problems. Return the phone to default (factory reset) to get all back and only remove stuff you can without using ADB.
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I hope you are aware of the risks with uninstalling "bloatware" with ADB. This may result in problems. Return the phone to default (factory reset) to get all back and only remove stuff you can without using ADB.
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You can temporarily screw up the OS but nothing that can't be reversed it with a factory data reset, which I did. Anyway, it was fine. Let's just say I may have dropped it from waist height and that's when this battery drain came up. I have it in a UAG case and a glass screen protector (I've dropped my iPhone much worse about 50 times and never had an issue). The phone and the case are in mint condition, it shouldn't be malfunctioning from a 3 foot fall on a sheet vinyl floor with a case on it. But it is. Maybe its just my unit, but this is a fragile phone.
If you're in an area with a poor cell signal, your smartphone will try to connect to the nearest cell tower and drain your battery quickly. I thought there was an issue with my Pixel 6 battery but after buying an iPhone 13, I later found out that poor cell signal does drain your battery rather quickly.
Try enabling WiFi Calling and choose WiFi as your preference, then enable Airplane Mode with just WiFi turned on. This is what I do when I'm at home and then turn off Airplane mode when I'm out and about (obviously).
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If you're in an area with a poor cell signal, your smartphone will try to connect to the nearest cell tower and drain your battery quickly. I thought there was an issue with my Pixel 6 battery but after buying an iPhone 13, I later found out that poor cell signal does drain your battery rather quickly.
Try enabling WiFi Calling and choose WiFi as your preference, then enable Airplane Mode with just WiFi turned on. This is what I do when I'm at home and then turn off Airplane mode when I'm out and about (obviously).
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That's not true itself. I'm in a poor cell area and normally only see 4% drain overnight with phones over the years. This is the amount I expect, no more. If any phone ever sees 10% or more overnight then it has a problem either software or hardware.
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I have all the bells and whistles turned off, uninstalled a ton of bloatware via ADB commands, and everything's been fine - great battery life. But then I charged up to 100% last night and when I awoke it was at 80%, then by 12 noon i was at 64% and this was with battery saver turned on. I checked battery usage and nothing was amiss. I don't get it, how is my battery draining so fast when I'm not even using it? There wasn't any firmware update, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is.
So I reset the phone and set it up again, charged it back to 100%, then lost 4% in 90 minutes without even touching it. I'm guessing it's a hardware/battery problem.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I've seen this with my last Samsung but 1-3 reboots in a row always fixes it for a week or two. Normally only needs 1 reboot a week. Its in a system installed app or code.
However, battery drains can be caused by literally anything lol. Any app can cause it. Any system app can cause it. Even the OS can cause it. It could be in anything technically.
Batteries can go bad but you'd likely see something else happening if the battery was going bad or if the fall did it. I really don't think that's the issue here but suppose if it is then you have an odd situation where the battery drains from 100% to 0% smoothly.
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That's not true itself. I'm in a poor cell area and normally only see 4% drain overnight with phones over the years. This is the amount I expect, no more. If any phone ever sees 10% or more overnight then it has a problem either software or hardware.
I've seen this with my last Samsung but 1-3 reboots in a row always fixes it for a week or two. Normally only needs 1 reboot a week. Its in a system installed app or code.
However, battery drains can be caused by literally anything lol. Any app can cause it. Any system app can cause it. Even the OS can cause it. It could be in anything technically.
Batteries can go bad but you'd likely see something else happening if the battery was going bad or if the fall did it. I really don't think that's the issue here but suppose if it is then you have an odd situation where the battery drains from 100% to 0% smoothly.
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No, it was dropped from 3 feet onto a sheet vinyl floor, no visible damage but that's when it started. Something internally got messed up. It took a month but Straight Talk sent me a new A53, and no battery drain at all now. Straight Talk is another issue...smh
Oh, I didn't notice the data gap with the last reply just made last week lol.
Really though a phone replacement doesn't mean it wasn't software. I'm an app developer and can't even go simply based on that.
Is it possible to have a smoothly draining battery from a drop? Probably in some rare weirdly odd corner of the universe lol. Maybe you did find the corner.
At least its solved anyway. That's really all that counts.
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Oh, I didn't notice the data gap with the last reply just made last week lol.
Really though a phone replacement doesn't mean it wasn't software. I'm an app developer and can't even go simply based on that.
Is it possible to have a smoothly draining battery from a drop? Probably in some rare weirdly odd corner of the universe lol. Maybe you did find the corner.
At least its solved anyway. That's really all that counts.
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Yeah, the small drop was definitely the issue; Wi-Fi was not connecting or not staying connected. It wasn't software, I reset the device and same issue. It must've popped Wi-Fi antenna loose or caused a short somewhere. New phone and now I lose 1 - 2% overnight. Now to unlock it from straight Talk.