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How can I force a specific app not to use mobile data but only WIFI?
My use case is:
I like reading news through Play Newsstand, but it uses up way too much data for my plan... I would be happy to let it sync every night through WIFI and then just read the stuff from yesterday, without it constantly pulling new stuff using tens of MBs.
Any way to do that without using flight mode every time??
Thanks!
Disable background data on the app
Settings > Data > choose app then restrict background of said app.
radicalisto said:
Disable background data on the app
Settings > Data > choose app then restrict background of said app.
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I looked at that already, but for example today I see 25MB of Foreground data and only 5MB of background data, enough to make me think that the effect of that flag would be minimal.
In fact, the most data is downloaded while I use the app rather than in background.
Anything else I could try? I am also rooted.
Hmm, Xprivacy (xposed module) may work although I have never personally used it. But from what I have read about it, it restricts app data etc. Give it a whirl and see perhaps?
The play newsstand app has it's own setting:
'Download via Wi-Fi only'
Does this not work as advertised, or am I missing something?
eddiehk6 said:
The play newsstand app has it's own setting:
'Download via Wi-Fi only'
Does this not work as advertised, or am I missing something?
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It does not unfortunately
That flag only controls how data is synced in the background, but my problem is when I actually open the app to read the news. In that particular moment it starts downloading all news (and images) for the feed I open every time, and that generates tens of MB of mobile traffic.
Gatz said:
It does not unfortunately
That flag only controls how data is synced in the background, but my problem is when I actually open the app to read the news. In that particular moment it starts downloading all news (and images) for the feed I open every time, and that generates tens of MB of mobile traffic.
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you could get a firewall program (maybe you'll need root for it), and block it from accessing 3G (but allow through wifi)
then use tasker to turn on wifi when you are using the app. this way, the app will never use 3G
radicalisto said:
Hmm, Xprivacy (xposed module) may work although I have never personally used it. But from what I have read about it, it restricts app data etc. Give it a whirl and see perhaps?
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paperWastage said:
you could get a firewall program (maybe you'll need root for it), and block it from accessing 3G (but allow through wifi)
then use tasker to turn on wifi when you are using the app. this way, the app will never use 3G
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Thanks for the suggestions.
I could try both, but waiting for Android 4.4.3 to install Xposed.
If any of those can do "Prevent app XYZ from using mobile data" then it's fine.
Xprivacy could be a better choice as it doesn't sound like it's going to use up as much cpu/mem/battery as a firewall.
Gatz said:
Thanks for the suggestions.
I could try both, but waiting for Android 4.4.3 to install Xposed.
If any of those can do "Prevent app XYZ from using mobile data" then it's fine.
Xprivacy could be a better choice as it doesn't sound like it's going to use up as much cpu/mem/battery as a firewall.
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i'm using Xprivacy... XPrivacy isn't completely foolproof either.
there's an option to block "internet".
In android, you can call "isConnected()" function to check if you are connected, and then not do anything. XPrivacy overrides that function and can return "false".
however, apps can "ignore" or not use those functions, and just force it's way to connect to the internet. it can still succeed (you can test to see if this happens)...
firewall shouldn't be using a lot of your CPU cycles...
paperWastage said:
i'm using Xprivacy... XPrivacy isn't completely foolproof either.
there's an option to block "internet".
In android, you can call "isConnected()" function to check if you are connected, and then not do anything. XPrivacy overrides that function and can return "false".
however, apps can "ignore" or not use those functions, and just force it's way to connect to the internet. it can still succeed (you can test to see if this happens)...
firewall shouldn't be using a lot of your CPU cycles...
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Thanks.
Could you suggest a firewall app in particular, considering that I don't need advanced functions at all, but merely the bit to turn mobile data off?
Gatz said:
It does not unfortunately
That flag only controls how data is synced in the background, but my problem is when I actually open the app to read the news. In that particular moment it starts downloading all news (and images) for the feed I open every time, and that generates tens of MB of mobile traffic.
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Lol 'Download via Wi-Fi only' is a misleading setting!
Another possible way, xposed and 'App Settings' module, could also prevent internet access I believe, but not sure if it can specifically block mobile only.
eddiehk6 said:
Lol 'Download via Wi-Fi only' is a misleading setting!
Another possible way, xposed and 'App Settings' module, could also prevent internet access I believe, but not sure if it can specifically block mobile only.
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FYI, AFWall+ seems to work just fine!
I will also maybe try Xprivacy when 4.4.3 comes out and I will install Xposed.
So far, happy with the firewall approach, might come in handy for more apps that I want to prevent from using up data when underway.
I have concerns related to the security of S4 as a hotspot. While using the device as a hotspot it
became extremely hot, and started to malfunction. I could see that no one other than myself was
connected to the hotspot. Other unusual activity was observed as well, and the carrier has taken
extreme & unusual steps to prevent me from discussing it with their employees.
When using an S4 with (selinux enforcing) as a hotspot, is there any risk that a malicious webserver operator
can somehow access the device using the carrier assigned (dynamic) ip address?
What type of protections (on the wan side) should be in place to properly secure an S4 with 4.3 for use as a hotspot
so the device itself can't be compromised? (assuming no 3rd party apps are installed) I assume device encryption would
not help this situation because the device has to be decrypted to run the hotspot. It's unclear samasung knox 1.0 could
provide anything useful, and I think they force packets through lookout so it slows the connection.
greens1240 said:
I have concerns related to the security of S4 as a hotspot. While using the device as a hotspot it
became extremely hot, and started to malfunction. I could see that no one other than myself was
connected to the hotspot. Other unusual activity was observed as well, and the carrier has taken
extreme & unusual steps to prevent me from discussing it with their employees.
When using an S4 with (selinux enforcing) as a hotspot, is there any risk that a malicious webserver operator
can somehow access the device using the carrier assigned (dynamic) ip address?
What type of protections (on the wan side) should be in place to properly secure an S4 with 4.3 for use as a hotspot
so the device itself can't be compromised? (assuming no 3rd party apps are installed) I assume device encryption would
not help this situation because the device has to be decrypted to run the hotspot. It's unclear samasung knox 1.0 could
provide anything useful, and I think they force packets through lookout so it slows the connection.
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greens1240 said:
Other unusual activity was observed as well, and the carrier has taken
extreme & unusual steps to prevent me from discussing it with their employees.
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would you elaborate on that?
keen36 said:
would you elaborate on that?
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Those are actually 2 separate issues even though the carrier's actions may seem unusual.
I don't see https in the url for this site, and when I try to force https it redirects to remove the ssl,
so privacy didn't matter here?
Some of the unusual activity involved messages about "sim data" refresh/change when no 3rd party
apps were ever installed, the phone wasn't rooted, and updates turned off. Apps that were turned off
showed subsequent network activity. After a factory reset, disabling some apps and changing other
settings, the main issue was the phone getting extremely hot when using the hotspot to test a vpn
service (vpn settings config on pc not on android).
If your phone number ends up on that "list" you should expect management to take an approach with you
as if litigation is underway. Expect very little cooperation, leave 15 messages over a 30 day
period with 5 different corporate managers to finally get a return call from yet a different manager who
finally admits they have ways to prevent your phone from getting through to support or customer service.
They must have thought none of their customers would figure out that advanced call rejection features
can do all kinds of things, such as put select callers on hold indefinitely, forward the call to a number that
rings but never answers, have the caller hear fast busy signals, have the caller hear a message that no
one is available to take their call, etc, etc. A word to anyone with a cell phone - If you can't get through
using 611 or the carrier's toll free numbers, try calling from a different phone, and if you get through
with the different phone, then you know.
xda admins probably thought that encryption is not overly important, this being a public forum and all... i would also prefer ssl everywhere, but it does add a layer of complexity and also increases demand on the server, so i can see why it is not implemented here.
what do you mean with
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"sim data" refresh/change
? what do you mean when you say you have apps "turned off"?
i can easily see you getting blocked if you annoy any support-hotline too much. i do not see something especially suspicious about that.
if i may be honest: you appear to be a little paranoid.
keen36 said:
xda admins probably thought that encryption is not overly important, this being a public forum and all... i would also prefer ssl everywhere, but it does add a layer of complexity and also increases demand on the server, so i can see why it is not implemented here.
what do you mean with
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"sim data" refresh/change
? what do you mean when you say you have apps "turned off"?
i can easily see you getting blocked if you annoy any support-hotline too much. i do not see something especially suspicious about that.
if i may be honest: you appear to be a little paranoid.
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As network packets travel over the Internet, anyone with physical access to a network device (within the packet route) can view your activity without your knowledge. There are redirection protocols used by thousands of businesses and ISPs to divert port 80 traffic to web caches, internet filtering appliances, and data mining "honeypots". Not sure if still true today that network router and Layer 3 switches manufactured by Cisco ship with a redirection protocol (WCCP) that can be used to re-reroute HTTP traffic through an external filtering or a logging device. Most would agree when it comes to discussions about network security- exchanging plain text email, and requesting advice on plain text message boards is not the best practice.
"refreshing sim data" was a message I observed after the s4 was rebooted. It seemed odd that the message appeared when there was no update or installations. But I'm not an expert on the device, for all I know it might be normal to see the message when there's no activity. As far as turning off apps, it's normal to turn off apps that use resources, drain battery, etc. if you don't need them. Turning off, not deleting, and changing permissions doesn't appear to be an option on 4.3 without a 3rd party app.
As far as sounding paranoid, there's a lot more to the story that I didn't go into involving what looks like attempted identity/phone theft by the carrier's own employee(s) or reseller(s). The way the situation was handled it genuinely looked like a cover up, and still does.
There is still the issue of securing a hotspot which no one from any tier 2 support centers has been able to answer. Not sure if a droidwall or other firewall would be doing anything beneficial since I assume any port scanning would be of the device connected to the hotspot rather than the s4 itself.
yes, anyone along the route can intercept the packets and even read them if they aren't encrypted. yes, there exist man-in-the-middle attacks. yes, most would agree that when exchanging security related information, it would be best to encrypt. that doesn't change what i said: this board is not security oriented, it is a public, developer oriented board. encryption is not very important here, so the admins must have thought that the benefits of not encrypting outwheigh the risk. if you really have sensitive security-related questions, this is not the right place to ask them, i fear.
what do you do exactly when you "turn off" an app? step-by-step?
have you tried googling what "refreshing sim data" does and why it is happening? it looks harmless to me!
last thing, to get this clear: you think that someone hacked your hotspot because the phone gets hot and unstable when you use it? no, wait, you have about a thousand small other things that also point to that explanation, right? this sounds like a case of unfounded paranoia to me. i have some experience with paranoid schizophrenics, and while i am not (!) calling you that, i have to advise you that the way you argue reminds me of them.
you are looking for suspicious things and you do not understand enough about these phones (they are ridiculously complex, so that is quite normal i might add) to see whether something is suspicious or not.
keen36 said:
yes, anyone along the route can intercept the packets and even read them if they aren't encrypted. yes, there exist man-in-the-middle attacks. yes, most would agree that when exchanging security related information, it would be best to encrypt. that doesn't change what i said: this board is not security oriented, it is a public, developer oriented board. encryption is not very important here, so the admins must have thought that the benefits of not encrypting outwheigh the risk. if you really have sensitive security-related questions, this is not the right place to ask them, i fear.
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Do you know a better place to ask advanced security related questions about Samsung/Android? Google and Samsung tech support are unable to answer many basic security questions. Anything advanced is a foreign language to them.Ask 1000 Samsung employees "What is Knox?" and 999 will answer "Never heard of it." Most don't care about security, and never will unless and until they become a victim, and have a substantial loss.
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what do you do exactly when you "turn off" an app? step-by-step?.
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I used app manager. I'f you're familiar with S4 running 4.3 then you're familiar with app manager.
keen36 said:
have you tried googling what "refreshing sim data" does and why it is happening? it looks harmless to me!
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This message may be related to updating network tower(s) info which I agree, by itself would be harmless.
keen36 said:
last thing, to get this clear: you think that someone hacked your hotspot because the phone gets hot and unstable when you use it? no, wait, you have about a thousand small other things that also point to that explanation, right? this sounds like a case of unfounded paranoia to me. i have some experience with paranoid schizophrenics, and while i am not (!) calling you that, i have to advise you that the way you argue reminds me of them.
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There's constant network inbound/outbound activity while the device is idle according to the indicator. The activity could be perfectly benign. Many native apps communicate with the network, but it is also possible to turn off (restrict) background activity to limit which apps have network access. I wouldn't know what it is without running a program such as wireshark. A paranoid schizophrenic might think an app that had permission to access the microphone, recorded audio in the room, then encrypted & uploaded it to a server for later retrieval. That could never happen in the real world right?
I'm merely asking questions about various events which may or may not be signs that there's a problem, but I've not concluded anything. More importantly I'm hoping to find information on how to properly secure a hotspot. You've not offered any information about this so I assume you feel no hardening, modifications, or additions are necessary, and in using default settings the device is impenetrable.
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you are looking for suspicious things and you do not understand enough about these phones (they are ridiculously complex, so that is quite normal i might add) to see whether something is suspicious or not.
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I agree, they are complex. Tech support is of no use, they simply are not trained to respond to a question such as "Is there a firewall running on the device?" "Is code checked for malware by human eyes before an app is put on playstore, or simply trust unknown authors and feedback?"
no, i am sorry, i do not know about any android security related web communities.
i use a sony phone on kitkat, so no, i have no idea what you mean with "app manager". i just want to know what that program did; did it uninstall the apps, did it disable them, did it freeze (rename) them? i have never heard of an app being "turned off", that's why i ask.
what you describe with the microphone listening and uploading what it records to the internet, that is happening every time you open google voice search or -if you use the google now launcher- everytime you go to the homescreen
i do not know how you got the idea that i think that your device is impenetrable ([email protected] sentence btw. )? that is a ridiculous thought, i would never say such a thing. in fact, i am of the conviction that no absolute security can exist on a device which is connected to the internet. there is a reason why some security-related programs are built on machines with no internet access at all.
if you know how to use wireshark, why don't you just use it? if i had to take an uneducated guess, i would think that you would then realise that the network activity you see is benign (not malicious i mean, you might very well discover some nice datamining activity by google etc. ).
i do not know your usecase, if you are living in a country which has an oppressive regime, if you are a general target for hackers somehow (public figure / working at a security-related position etc.), then yes, it might make sense to look at your phones security in detail. if that is not the case, however, then no, i do not think that additional hardening of your hotspot is needed...
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If you are interested in a simple and straight forward WIFI application that allows you to easily roam, scan the area, and see your current status. This is the app for you.
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Works great on most mobile or on the move devices:
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Great for businesses, homes, or any large building with multiple access points.
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first off all thanks for that nice and usefull app
Is it necessary that the symbol stays active in status bar ?
And how is battery consumption with this app ?
Battery consumption is good with the default settings. If you increase the timers you will scan more and use more battery.
The icon is necessary in later versions of Android as they prefer that persistent services show their presence. No way around it unfortunately. Not without root.
RuckmanXDA said:
Battery consumption is good with the default settings. If you increase the timers you will scan more and use more battery.
The icon is necessary in later versions of Android as they prefer that persistent services show their presence. No way around it unfortunately. Not without root.
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and whats the solution with root ? can you explain that ?
or maybe the icon can be changed ? i my case the icon is to big and unproportional. maybe thats because i changed the default DPI
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maybe you can implement the notification in a different way ?
Other apps like LightFlow or Avast AntiVirus doenst show a persistent icon but have a persistent notification in notification bar.
der_Kief said:
and whats the solution with root ? can you explain that ?
or maybe the icon can be changed ? i my case the icon is to big and unproportional. maybe thats because i changed the default DPI
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maybe you can implement the notification in a different way ?
Other apps like LightFlow or Avast AntiVirus doenst show a persistent icon but have a persistent notification in notification bar.
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That's a good suggestion! I'll see if I can figure that out. Thanks!
2-23-17: I have changed the software so that after version 1.7 is released that the persistent notification will no longer show in your tray but only shows in the notification tray.
This is only available to API 16+, anyone on API 15 will still see it.
With this simple code addition for anyone else who needs it:
Code:
if (Build.VERSION.SDK_INT >= Build.VERSION_CODES.JELLY_BEAN) {
notification.priority = Notification.PRIORITY_MIN;
}
I currently don't plan to implement any root options as I want to stick to the API as closely as possible to minimize compatibility headaches.
Thanks!
@RuckmanXDA
Hello RuckmanXDA,
Thank you for your app. It addresses an important problem with Android network usability: selection of the desired WiFi network. Others developers have tried to address the issue in different ways, but the implementations have been severely lacking.
In the interest of improving the app development, I have made some notes from a user's perceptive about desirable network selection and am sharing them with you.
A user often has various criteria to decide upon which is or are the desirable access point(s). The following are considered:
Not all access points have the same features, security, or offer the same level of access. This is true regardless of SSID-name sameness or signal strength. For example, access points of a given SSID name may offer Internet access at different levels of service (or none at all) or impose different network management criteria; it may therefore be preferable to connect to an access point with lower signal power that offers superior features than one with same SSID name and higher signal strength, but that does not offer the better access or features.
There are some access points that are defective, rogue, or otherwise undesirable. Connecting to such access points is problematic, and thus it is important to be able to prevent automatic roaming to such access points.
At times it is desirable to manually select a specific access point to use or test.
It is sometimes, oftentimes, or always important to know which specific network or access point one is connected to. This is especially true with network roaming, where the network or access point one was connected to may no longer be the current network or access point.
There may be more than one option with regards to network interfaces (single or multiple of WiFi, Ethernet, Bluetooth, cellular, etc.) and such options should be manageable to be usable how the user wants. Currently, this is handled very poorly on Android; the interface types are prioritized and network connection is often exclusive. For example, if there are network resources on Ethernet (which seems to be given low interface priority), they often cannot be used without disabling other interfaces (such as WiFi or Cellular data) first if they are enabled. Ideally, the different interfaces and links should be used, prioritized, or balanced in the manner a user wants.
It is also worth noting the following common use scenarios:
Same SSID naming and feature access points are used for a single network.
Different SSID and feature access points are used for a single network.
Same SSIDs used for multiple and separate networks.
Subscription services over public access points. (such as subscription WiFi Internet service). These are sometimes troublesome to roam when they have captive portals. These may use the same or different SSIDs.
For the moment, I request three features:
Ability to manually select an Access Point to connect to.
Ability to create and use custom (SSID, MAC address, etc.) roaming rules and profiles.
Ability to blacklist access points given criteria (SSID, MAC address, etc.).
Hey @RuckmanXDA are u alive? Badger is missing at Google Play Stole and even your webpage is not functional. Wifi Badger was excelent app but now it can not be installed anymore
frogale said:
Hey @RuckmanXDA are u alive? Badger is missing at Google Play Stole and even your webpage is not functional. Wifi Badger was excellent app but now it can not be installed anymore
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I am still alive, I have updated the app information. The final version, updated links, and github page are now listed. Thanks for the bump, I forgot to update the info here.
On my S5, all saved wifi connections were visible in the wifi settings page. On the S7, it seems that only the connections within range are visible. If you go into the data usage / restrict networks, every saved wifi connection is displayed, but there is no way to delete them from there. It seems that there is no way to delete a saved wifi connection once it goes out of range. Anyone know how to do this?
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...On the S7, it seems that only the connections within range are visible. I...
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Exactly the same issue here. Anyone got any workarounds (non-root)? Third party apps don't seem to work. Pretty ridiculous that you can't forget a saved network and causes a serious issue for me: I have to change my password at work and can't forget the WiFi AP before getting to the office so I'm locked out of my work account...
It is a bit annoying but I can't see how it's a problem?
How are you locked out of your work account?
You can change password when you are in range.
What's the other issue?
jarayn said:
It is a bit annoying but I can't see how it's a problem?
How are you locked out of your work account?
You can change password when you are in range.
What's the other issue?
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The problematic are Hotel / Airport / etc. Hotspots...
When i received my S7 i "load" an backup from my old android phone... I few days earlier i returned from a long holiday trip and so the "restore-backup" created a lot of hotspots an my S7 i never never need and i'm not able to delete ....
(OK - i can start for a second trip, visit all places and delete hotspot when connected... ) <-- ironic
jarayn said:
It is a bit annoying but I can't see how it's a problem?
How are you locked out of your work account?...
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We use exchange authentication for WiFi at work. The phone automatically tries to connect using the old password as soon as i'm near the office. Does this three times and locks my ability to use the WiFi. This is before i have chance to see it and forget it in the WiFi settings. Such a simple omission in the UX makes this even an more annoying issue.
Yeah OK the work thing sounds a bit troublesome. I would turn off wifi before I go then turn it on when I'm ready and forget the network before it connects.
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The holiday wifi hotspot thing i don't get still.
Why is that a problem? You can't see the networks anyway. Is it just an ocd thing?
well you have a drastic option, if nothing else works
go settings>backup and reset>reset network settings
this will erase all your wifi, as well as all bluetooth and data connections saved
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wegiwegi said:
well you have a drastic option, if nothing else works
go settings>backup and reset>reset network settings
this will erase all your wifi, as well as all bluetooth and data connections saved
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just done that myself, all my connections disappeared, it works fine, you should try that
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The problem with the holiday Hotspots is at least not a real problem... But I don't like this.
I would prefer a function to delete Hotspots even when I'm not connected to them...
(maybe it is small security issue, because a common SSID can be used to connect with my phone...)
Wifi Manager - choose Known network, then remove.
I reported this to Samsung support. That's the only way to get them to fix it. The more people report it, the more likely they are to fix it sooner.
As for whether it's a "problem", I suppose it's not immediately a show stopper. However, after only a couple of weeks, I accumulated a lot of hotspots that clutter up the restrict networks page. Who knows, if too many build up it could cause an problem. There is no reason for Samsung to have implemented it in this way. I've never seen a device (mobile or pc) that did this.
lost_ said:
Wifi Manager - choose Known network, then remove.
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Thanks, but Android 6 only allows you to forget those networks that you've connected to using the same app. So you can only forget those that you connected to with WiFi Manager, not the in-built settings.
do7slash said:
Thanks, but Android 6 only allows you to forget those networks that you've connected to using the same app. So you can only forget those that you connected to with WiFi Manager, not the in-built settings.
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Edit: you're correct. I think root and find where file or db that stores the SSID would be the next option.
Edit 2: Get a root editor, backup /data/misc/wifi/wpa_supplicant.conf, then edit it to either remove the entire SSID entry, or set autojoin to 0. There may be root apps that does this.
The plain text passwords are also stored in that supplicant file.
I don't think there is any non-root solution until Samsung changes the Wifi settings to show out-of-range SSIDs. I agree that it is silly for it to not do have this feature at all.
2 solutions so far (?)
Hi,
if you have a non rooted S7 there is no build in possibility to delete the saved wifi connections if you are out of range. Samsung has to fix this in my opinion.
With Marshmallow you can only delete wifi networks with the same app you created them, so third party apps like wifi manager do not work. So far there might be two solutions which work, both are far away from being perfect.
- First solution is to delete ALL network connections...and start from the beginning (1. Go to settings -> 2. Bakup and reset -> 3. Reset network settings -> 4. Follow on screen instructions)...including bluetooth etc.
- Second solution is not fine either. Take a third party app like wifi manager from Kostya on play store and list all known networks. Then set up a (fake) wifi access point with the SSID you want to delete. Once they are in range, you can delete the saved wifi connection. You have to repeat this for every SSID you want to delete.
Best regards,
Alexander
jarayn said:
Yeah OK the work thing sounds a bit troublesome. I would turn off wifi before I go then turn it on when I'm ready and forget the network before it connects.
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The holiday wifi hotspot thing i don't get still.
Why is that a problem? You can't see the networks anyway. Is it just an ocd thing?
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Ummm..... maybe cuz stored WiFi networks spew out a wealth of valuable information!!
isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/WiFi+Still+Remains+a+Good+Attack+Vector/21583
lost_ said:
Wifi Manager - choose Known network, then remove.
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can not remove!
I updated my S7 today (with Sprint) to Android 7, and they fixed this. Out-of-range WiFi networks are listed under the "Manage Networks" options and can be removed from there.
Hello
I am using latest .93 firmware and i have noticed strange thing: something are turning on data transfer and then disable it.
My data trasfer is turned off, after disabling i hide the notification "data trasmission in cellular is turned off" but after some time when phone is inactive the notification appears and seems that i got charged by using data.
The monitors doesn't show any info which app using data transfer.
Are You experienced this ?
Is there any way to check logs which application enabling data transfer / how to block it ?
Seems even if i block cellular data for any app the connection to network is made and few kilobytes pass through.
Do You have any ideas ?
jishek said:
Hello
I am using latest .93 firmware and i have noticed strange thing: something are turning on data transfer and then disable it.
My data trasfer is turned off, after disabling i hide the notification "data trasmission in cellular is turned off" but after some time when phone is inactive the notification appears and seems that i got charged by using data.
The monitors doesn't show any info which app using data transfer.
Are You experienced this ?
Is there any way to check logs which application enabling data transfer / how to block it ?
Seems even if i block cellular data for any app the connection to network is made and few kilobytes pass through.
Do You have any ideas ?
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I don't have that problem at all I'm on 33.2.A.2.93 myself, is the background data turned off for each and every app go to settings data usage and click on each and every app in the list for data+WiFi and set the slider at the bottom to the on position. The notification you get to say that data is disabled that looks like a small globe will come and go on its own anyway usually when you wake up the xa it's how it is it doesn't mean it has actually used any data it's to remind you it's off
Have you also turned the Bluetooth+WiFi always scanning for connections Inc when they are actually turned off. Go to settings location and tap the three dots top right turn both sliders to the off position.
This should stop any background data being used and won't effect the way any of the apps work
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jishek said:
Hello
I am using latest .93 firmware and i have noticed strange thing: something are turning on data transfer and then disable it.
My data trasfer is turned off, after disabling i hide the notification "data trasmission in cellular is turned off" but after some time when phone is inactive the notification appears and seems that i got charged by using data.
The monitors doesn't show any info which app using data transfer.
Are You experienced this ?
Is there any way to check logs which application enabling data transfer / how to block it ?
Seems even if i block cellular data for any app the connection to network is made and few kilobytes pass through.
Do You have any ideas ?
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+1 sometimes !
The bluetooth, wifi, cellular(agps) location helpers are OFF.
Trying for now not to disable all cellular data(the switch to block all traffic) because i am trying to indentify app that cause problem.
I get used to manually turn on and off cellular data and would like to keep that way with this phone.
'thing' that turn on data make me nuts.
"small globe notification" appeared once in last half day - t-mobile app says usage of 200kb but Data Usage Monitor does show nothing
I think that issue depend on signal strength.. Always when back from basement which is located underground i had that notification about mobile data.. Also in forest, when signal is gone or rly poor.
But had no idea which app is responsible for that. Also trying few times turn off notifications in random sys apps and nothing so far..
The beggining of the end...
The telegram app shows notifications too, strangw notifications, why? The app is not listed on the detailed ps list, is not running anything related to telegram, ate least the unrecognized service that poped up the notification.
This is new method they are using.
Is not online, but the notifications is poping up.
Called as Multidex odex(or dex from the app) and cached secondary-dexes provided by them when we last tine was online.
We ended and closed the app, but, the secondary dexes are in the Memory opened
Someday i was searching why my apps are all closed , but the ram is sluggy and filled?
This is why.
Preventing yourself agains these new kind of apks before installing.
This may contain virus.
This is destroying the cpu and the ram.
These secondary dexes processes are hidden, and unkillable (unless i root and forbid services)
Nothing is turning on the data.
The cached dexes are running in hidden background, showing the notifications that was not readed when was the app online.
This is a serious damage menace.
I disagree with this, after i discovered this, now, i am denying packages with Multidex inside.
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I forgot to mention:
Imagine:
I am running a newsapp, with fully adblock in action.
They will search a "V".
They creates a temporary secondary-dex, when my installation id is on line reading their news, the cached dex is , for exampling: deleting my pictures, uploading something mine to their servers, deleting musics, corrupting files, etc.
due to the secondary dex is updated periodically... on cache, free for do what they want do on my device...
They found "V" Vengeance
Because i am Ad blocker
Only because this.
This is why the RootCloak was created.
To hide root and commands that some apps runs in hidden background
I tried search how to forbid this Multidexes apps.
But untill now, the solution is
Not install.
Check the package before installing and read the Manifest.xml about the multidex version.
If no multidex tag found, is safe apk.
Remember the Quadrooter.
They may creates a secondary-dex for destroy the gpu easyly.
Sent from SomeFon
Rafixxxx said:
I think that issue depend on signal strength.. Always when back from basement which is located underground i had that notification about mobile data.. Also in forest, when signal is gone or rly poor.
But had no idea which app is responsible for that. Also trying few times turn off notifications in random sys apps and nothing so far..
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Yes, you are right! I have checked that.
That notification reappears when i lost signal and get it back. Appears also when i turn on airplane mode and then switch it off.
So nothing actually switch on cellular data BUT ...
i found what cause the problem
it's localization
I have it enabled BUT helpers are switched OFF (wifi+cellular) and bluetooth but it still using AGPS.
When i use app that use localization - for example speedtest app (using wifi) then localization icon appears and a moment later two arrows (up/down) appear on gsm signal.
so the question is :
How can i disable AGPS ?? (settings -> localization -> three dots -> scanning -> both options are OFF)
Please someone check if You have same problem (turned agps off and using app with localization and celular data disabled you get two arrows on gsm signal)
EDIT: The mode of GPS is: only device. Note that evey switch off and on it defaults to best accuracy.
When i make sure it's only GPS (agps disabled) and helpers are off and run speedtest with localization it STILL using agps
BUG ?
The OS itself downloads data too, even on rooted.
100 per month going where ?
hp6830s said:
The OS itself downloads data too, even on rooted.
100 per month going where ?
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Yes but android OS doesn't use data traffic when data traffic is disabled.
AGPS does
Solved
Problem was resolved by SONY's support:
Selecting device only will not disable assisted start on the GPS. It only disables location by WiFi, mobile network and bluetooth.
What you can try is to go to Settings -> More -> Mobile networks -> Access Point Names. Here check the APN type on all your APNs. If you have "supl" on the APN-type, try to remove this. Then turn off mobile data or connect to WiFi and see if it still uses the mobile network.
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Apn type says - default, supl. But there is no way to change it.Its greyed.
I think the only way is to dissable 4g (when not using the phone or when wi fi is active) , and remain on H+, for me its free. And that way will not lose my 1 Gb quota.
hp6830s said:
Apn type says - default, supl. But there is no way to change it.Its greyed.
I think the only way is to dissable 4g (when not using the phone or when wi fi is active) , and remain on H+, for me its free. And that way will not lose my 1 Gb quota.
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I have exactly the same issue. When I clicked on the APN type, I got a free text box and I didn't know what to type in. In the end I deleted the APN. This obviously means that I can't use mobile data when I want to. This is very frustrating and seems like a bug. Please post if you find a solution...