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Hello Defy fellows!
I'm new here and to all Android ROM flashing thing. I own a Defy for a couple of weeks now, it runs Android Éclair and I'm looking forward to put on a nicer ROM on it. It is my first Android smartphone, I've come from a sad Symbian 2.3 Nokia.
So: I'm not familiar with any of the ROMs that lots of users here have been playing around and I believe that there could be really interesting inputs for the interested who are new to those developments.
I've been reading on the procedures and what's involved to flash new ROMs to the Defy and I couldn't help to notice that there are quite a few custom ROMs available.
I wonder which ones are the most stable and reliable. Also, which ones have the best performance and deliver higher battery autonomy. I would not like much experimental things, but mostly one with less bugs and problems, to carry on with it and don't bother for a while, until there is a major update or something.
I will use it here on Brazil and I expect it to not lose any functionality regarding GSM, 3G and GPS. I don't know exactly what is involved on this aspect and what are the limitations but I can say to you that my network uses 850 and 2100 MHz for 3G and 1800 MHz for GSM.
It should also support portuguese, even that there's just the spelling dictionary.
I'm sorry if there are dumb questions above, I simply don't know what can be a problem if I change the native ROM to a customized/tweaked one.
I believe that there are patches to do almost anything, but I would like to not need to worry about how to fix issues on my phone's system...
At first, I am tempted to get the main CM7 ROM but I'm creating this thread really to explore the differences and comparisons among the available options.
I am also strongly considering undervolting/overclocking the CPU
Looking forward to your thoughts!
Regards!
BTW: my Defy has Bayer Green lenses!
ursoouindio said:
BTW: my Defy has Bayer Green lenses!
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bayer is red lense
SOC is green
remuseu said:
bayer is red lense
SOC is green
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looking against the light I see green and yellow shinning... and Catlog reports is as being Bayer.
But that's ok, I wont rely that much on which color it seems to me without having something different on my other hand to compare with.
So, you have Bayer Yellow lens.
Well, thanks...
I didn't even know that there were a third color for the lenses....
But I think that isn't important , its all about the module, Bayer or SOC.
i will recomend you to use ms2ginger... it's a fully operational rom with gingerbread + motoblur, can record at 720p (HD), it's fast and have dlna option to share things with pc, laptops and LED tv.... ohh, it's have support for portuguese language too
espaciosalter20 said:
i will recomend you to use ms2ginger... it's a fully operational rom with gingerbread + motoblur, can record at 720p (HD), it's fast and have dlna option to share things with pc, laptops and LED tv.... ohh, it's have support for portuguese language too
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MS2Ginger is a very nice ROM. It's my current ROM.
ursoouindio said:
I wonder which ones are the most stable and reliable. Also, which ones have the best performance and deliver higher battery autonomy. I would not like much experimental things, but mostly one with less bugs and problems, to carry on with it and don't bother for a while, until there is a major update or something.
I am also strongly considering undervolting/overclocking the CPU
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As I see, here two common options for you:
I will vote for Barebones Froyo,
-stable Froyo, have no bugs
-without Blur
-best battery (1-2% per night, 2-3 days of average using 3g
-you can overclock it with bootmenu preinstaled
-as good bonus, u'll have many other little things which will make your every day use more enjoyable (720p playing, widescreen recording etc)
CM7 - bleeding edge, you'll have latest software, and latest bugs.
Actually, for me, CM7 give no advantage in every day use.
Someone will say perfomance, but its only syntetic tests (cheating), you'll have no real improvments, cuz hardware stays same.
You've given me an idea.
Would it be useful if I made a spreadsheet/googledoc listing all available roms which os they using, stable, major bugs etc?
what is ms2ginger?
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what is ms2ginger?
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check yourself....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140839
If u need better battery life(in stand by mode) u must use Barebones froyo ROM.
If u need better performance u can consider using WIUI or cm7.
If u need more new feature u can use cm7.
If u need more moto staff u can use ms2ginger.
For me I am using WIUI and i would say it is a great rom if u like miui's interface and the battery life is good for me(1-2 days) also I don't need new features except crystal talk plus . But I guess MIUI's guys will be add it soon.
My friends, thanks for the replies so far!
Can you enlighten me on what are these tweaks that gets better performance for CM7 over barebones?
As I understood, ms2ginger has the motoblur thing, right? I don't care much about it and I think that I probably would be happier without it as I believe it impacts considerably on the overall performance.
Comparing CM7 and MIUI, which are the most elementary differences?
Sorry for the lots of questions, but there it is hard to someone new keep track on all those developments.
Don't forget to give a try to MS2Ginger, it's a very good ROM and it's in RC2 phase. It has very good battery perfomance and also gives you 720p recording and the new motoblur. Right now it's the ROM I am using and I feel very good with it.
miui
why no one say something bout MIUI?
i've been using it since i got my Defy.
and so far, its a great ROM and nice also.
and good to showoff to iPhone fag
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My friends, thanks for the replies so far!
Can you enlighten me on what are these tweaks that gets better performance for CM7 over barebones?
As I understood, ms2ginger has the motoblur thing, right? I don't care much about it and I think that I probably would be happier without it as I believe it impacts considerably on the overall performance.
Comparing CM7 and MIUI, which are the most elementary differences?
Sorry for the lots of questions, but there it is hard to someone new keep track on all those developments.
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CM7 have no moto staff that improve performance also gingerbread have a better performance. I guess CM7's developers optimized drivers to get much better performance over CM7. MIUI is base on CM7 so there are no much difference of performance. The differences of CM7 and MIUI is they use the different shell(you can read as UI) and also MIUI doesn't use the latest source of CM7 so it may have more bugs and do not have some newest features. I perfer WIUI (mod of MIUI) because it is stable and it's easy to use
Barebones is really insane in battery life !!! it has been 12 hours ..... since and still i m on 90% but though it seems that the older or newer sim it really has a greater impact on battery life .... older seems eats up quickly whereas newer sim they use a lot less battery
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Barebones is really insane in battery life !!! it has been 12 hours ..... since and still i m on 90% but though it seems that the older or newer sim it really has a greater impact on battery life .... older seems eats up quickly whereas newer sim they use a lot less battery
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can confirm the sim effect...i too have lot better battery life after change of sim...am on bbfroyo...amazing rom...15 hours..lot of smses...few calls...an hour of chess plus quite a bit of aimless playing around with the phone...still 78% battery left...amazing
kevin_diu, thanks for the answer, I was wondering on this kind of relation between them...
Wouldn't it be possible to get the same shell as MIUI while using CM7?
joydeep1985, that is really incredible if you get that much battery from this smartphone. How's the performance on it?
I just don't get the sim issue, what is that?
Confused!
joydeep1985 said:
Barebones is really insane in battery life !!! it has been 12 hours ..... since and still i m on 90% but though it seems that the older or newer sim it really has a greater impact on battery life .... older seems eats up quickly whereas newer sim they use a lot less battery
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Wow! BB Froyo 157 gave me 12 hours of life from 100%-0% I can't believe how all of you get so much battery life! I'm back on WIUI and I get 18 hours from full to zero now.
I havn't been an Android user since the days of the Galaxy 1 and 2.
Back then, flashing to a clean rom was a must. You would get much better performance, battery life, and so on.
With the One, I am being tempted but not sure what's the point?! Does any of the roms out there bring significant improvements?
Thanks!
For me batterylife with cm 12s or cm 12.1 was bad but with exodus it became pretty good(until this f****ing android system idle drain... at first I got with my normal use about 6h sot and now only 3h), also there are much more features available.
Thats like asking why do you wear black underwear instead of colored.. Its just down to personal preference and what I like wearing
Thanks for that. So that's my point - usually we are talking about VISUAL differences?
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Thanks for that. So that's my point - usually we are talking about VISUAL differences?
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Not necessarily just visual, a lot of ROMs have their own unique features, tweaks, under the hood stuff, optimisations.
Thanks again. Can you give me an example of a single optimization?
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Thanks again. Can you give me an example of a single optimization?
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Take SlimSaber for example, its uses the Sabermod tool chain. There are also roms built using the linaro tool chain. The benefits can be increased performance/smoothness/fluidity.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/development/rom-slimsaber-bacon-t2858033
Tool chains
http://www.xda-developers.com/custom-toolchain-roms-kernels/
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Thanks again. Can you give me an example of a single optimization?
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Just look at the various ROM threads for yourself. They list their features and optimisations in the OP usually so it's very easy to see how each custom ROM differs from the stock ROM.
Hi everyone!
Looking for stable and light ROM for HTC One S with normal battery life. ROM should NOT be sense-based and should be as vanilla as possible, with least amount of bloatware. Already tried all CM12 builds, battery drains too fast when screen is active and Camera works not so well.
P. S. Don't advice googling for similar threads, they are too old, some things may change since
I'm ok with battery life on latest nightly build.
You can fix camera issues by installing google cam from apkmirror.
Then just to manually change one file to fix low speaker volume and than it's good enought.
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I'm ok with battery life on latest nightly build.
You can fix camera issues by installing google cam from apkmirror.
Then just to manually change one file to fix low speaker volume and than it's good enought.
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Thank you for your reply! My phone gets too hot with that and battery lasts only 2 hours with screen active. That's a disaster:crying:
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Thank you for your reply! My phone gets too hot with that and battery lasts only 2 hours with screen active. That's a disaster:crying:
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Yeah. Get used to it. The One S wasn't designed to run 2016 operating systems on 2012 hardware. I gave up on recent Android versions and went with the ME ROM Classic. It's Android 4.2, but the stock camera is unbeatable and it actually keeps apps in RAM (whereas with CM12/13 all RAM was eaten up by system).
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Yeah. Get used to it. The One S wasn't designed to run 2016 operating systems on 2012 hardware. I gave up on recent Android versions and went with the ME ROM Classic. It's Android 4.2, but the stock camera is unbeatable and it actually keeps apps in RAM (whereas with CM12/13 all RAM was eaten up by system).
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I agree .
After 3 years with my phone the best rom is the Me Rom.
Amazing battery life (I'm still with the original battery).
Camera is working great .
And on top , sense 7 launcher .
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk
What would you recommend for VilleC2 (One S C2)?
Hi guys,
I wrote some time ago here for a combo of rom/kernel, but then I understood the battery of my phone was dead, so I decided to change it for an lg g4. I broke the screen of g4 and it's too expensive to fix, so I decided to change the battery of Nexus 5. I know this is a dated phone, but I don't have money for a new phone or to fix the glass, so now I have to use it.
Now I ask you for rom and kernel for daily use. I would prefer something Nougat based. I used PureNexus and ElementalX on Marshmallow, the last PureNexus seems fluid and stable, but unofficial.
What do you suggest for my Nexus 5?
Thank you for all replies.
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Hi guys,
I wrote some time ago here for a combo of rom/kernel, but then I understood the battery of my phone was dead, so I decided to change it for an lg g4. I broke the screen of g4 and it's too expensive to fix, so I decided to change the battery of Nexus 5. I know this is a dated phone, but I don't have money for a new phone or to fix the glass, so now I have to use it.
Now I ask you for rom and kernel for daily use. I would prefer something Nougat based. I used PureNexus and ElementalX on Marshmallow, the last PureNexus seems fluid and stable, but unofficial.
What do you suggest for my Nexus 5?
Thank you for all replies.
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I too am in the position of having to use my Nexus 5 (6P started boot looping) I am running Lineage OS 14.1 and it is running GREAT!
I use my Nexus 5 for a year now. I tried several roms and kernels and purnexus nougat + elementalx is the perfect combination for me, since it offers the best battery life.
I never had any issues with the rom.
If you turn off gps, sync(especially gmail) and undervolt* the snapdragon 800 and lower the clock a bit( i use 1.7 ghz) you can get about 5 hours of sot!
The phone is still very fast if you dont use slow apps. Even underclocked...
* most nexus 5 work well if you set the lowest value to about 700 and leave the steps up as elementalx sets them
best wishes!
I have found in trying most of the current ROMs that if you want Sprint service you must stay with >6.0 versions. The SIM card read of data on SIM is spotty at best. Some one mentioned it is not "Sticky" will work some times and all the various patches installed at ROM first install don't work...in my case never for reboot after setting up ROM app's and using. My way around this trouble is to use a GSM mvno (FreedomPop) or Tmobile just not good coverage in my local area. I like most of the features of Ver 7.0 + roms
I'm currently running Lineage 14.1 CAF and Noncaf....I like the CAF Battery setting slider for different current/battery drain. The Noncaf can use any Kernel if you like that approach to increase battery Life. In the two N5's one has a new battery and the other old...almost a 3 to 1 difference in longevity so best choice is a aftermarket battery replacement too.
DARK ROM [OMS][Pixel features]
i'm running paranoid android and i find it cool, but however, it's the first ROM i flash on the nexus 5.
i love having the nougat notification system, plus the immersive mode, and battery life is better than stock.
sincerely i don't find useful on the spot control and navigation pie, but that's just something that depends on my usage i guess.
can't understand how to activate floating peek, nor if it's still active in this version
sadly i hoped in something snappier, it looks a little laggy sometimes, doesn't support xposed (causes bootloop) and camera doesn't include HDR+ (installing the google official camera and enabling hdr seems to change nothing, so basically is useless) but many users find paranoid camera fantastic.
i'm trying to understand if there is something faster than this without losing cool features (like notifications), maybe with something based on kitkat/lollipop tweaked?
if someone has suggestions, tell me! btw i'll keep you tuned. still loving nexus 5 and it must survive!
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I am running Lineage OS 14.1 and it is running GREAT!
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Same here. By far the best my N5 has ever run.
do you suggest CAF o nonCAF version?
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I too am in the position of having to use my Nexus 5 (6P started boot looping) I am running Lineage OS 14.1 and it is running GREAT!
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I'm new to using anything but stock. My rooted nexus 5 marshmallow runs fine with a new battery and several xposed modules but I would like to escape from Google surveillance. Is lineage a good choice for that? Do I just download it and flash it through twrp? Are there instructions on how to flash and use Lineage?
What rom is best for privacy?
Thanks.
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I'm new to using anything but stock. My rooted nexus 5 marshmallow runs fine with a new battery and several xposed modules but I would like to escape from Google surveillance. Is lineage a good choice for that? Do I just download it and flash it through twrp? Are there instructions on how to flash and use Lineage?
What rom is best for privacy?
Thanks.
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IMO, yes, Lineage OS is a good choice for that. You have to install the Google apps separately, so if you want to be Google-free, you would just not install those. I've been impressed with how well my N5 runs with LOS. Better than with any previous stock version, really. I did keep the Marshmallow camera app, but that was just personal preference. LOS comes with a pretty full-featured camera app of its own.
Are you running the official aosp version or a caf customisation?
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Are you running the official aosp version or a caf customisation?
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I'm running official. I've also been installing the weekly "nightlies."
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Same here. By far the best my N5 has ever run.
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I too am in the position of having to use my Nexus 5 (6P started boot looping) I am running Lineage OS 14.1 and it is running GREAT!
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I'm running official. I've also been installing the weekly "nightlies."
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aren't nightlies more instable than the final builds?
i heard only good things about crdroid based on lineage, i think i'm about to try that
my rom queue is
-crdroid
-lineage(eventually)
-euclideanOS(waiting for a stable that should come in little time)
if anybody could give some feedback about those, it would be awesome
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aren't nightlies more instable than the final builds?
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Theoretically, but I don't think there really are any final builds for LOS (for hammerhead). I kind of want the monthly security patches. I've just kept installing the weekly updates, because I haven't had any problems. There could very well be problems, but I haven't experienced them since installing in...March?...somewhere around then.
BTW, running crdroid right now and it's holy fast, even better than stock, you should definitely give it a try. Wanted to run the caf version to flash also the truesight, but it needed custom bootloader and radio, and I'm still too noob for this.
Right now evaluating flashing the ElementalX, that should work on aosp to get also the fastcharge
If you just flashed the rom, it's usually faster than a rom that you've used for months. The rom shouldnt have too much influence on the speed, the kernel and the cpu governor it uses have the biggest influence. Usually speed comes at the cost of battery life which can have dramatic results on this phone. On caf i could use the charger 2-3 times per day...
I suggest AOSP 7.1.2 + OpenGapps + ElementalX, it's much faster than official Marshmallow, with Magisk you can bypass SafetyNet check and use Android Pay.
Also you can replace the battery with 525666, it's 3020mAh
And you can replace the NAND to 64G
I've tried to enlarge RAM to 3G or 4G, but failed...
The replacement can be done easily only if you're in China, so...
edison0354 said:
I suggest AOSP 7.1.2 + OpenGapps + ElementalX, it's much faster than official Marshmallow, with Magisk you can bypass SafetyNet check and use Android Pay.
Also you can replace the battery with 525666, it's 3020mAh
And you can replace the NAND to 64G
I've tried to enlarge RAM to 3G or 4G, but failed...
The replacement can be done easily only if you're in China, so...
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do you have some tutorial to link about those?
what of this is easily done only in china?
the_cr0w said:
do you have some tutorial to link about those?
what of this is easily done only in china?
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I only have links in Chinese, if you can read Chinese I can find the links for you.
Because in China you can simply send your phone to any of the maintainers and let them do the work, they can do anything...
edison0354 said:
I only have links in Chinese, if you can read Chinese I can find the links for you.
Because in China you can simply send your phone to any of the maintainers and let them do the work, they can do anything...
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I have found the guide for the battery, but cannot translate it in a decent way via translate
Anyway, could you link them? Are them proven to work?
Dear everyone,
I' ve trapped by the battery issue of my phone. I absolutely love this phone but the battery life is so weak to me. Since my last phone is Mate20p which can be used for 2 days, I feel OP7pro is an only one-day phone and even need to charge twice in a day. However, I find there are so many alternative choices for me like in terms of the kernels, ROMs, etc. I am a new here, just wanna know which project is the best for extending the battery life? Thank you guys so much. Oh, by the way, I expect these projects have not many obvious issues for daily usage.
Kind regard,
jayxiao171735 said:
Dear everyone,
I' ve trapped by the battery issue of my phone. I absolutely love this phone but the battery life is so weak to me. Since my last phone is Mate20p which can be used for 2 days, I feel OP7pro is an only one-day phone and even need to charge twice in a day. However, I find there are so many alternative choices for me like in terms of the kernels, ROMs, etc. I am a new here, just wanna know which project is the best for extending the battery life? Thank you guys so much. Oh, by the way, I expect these projects have not many obvious issues for daily usage.
Kind regard,
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My GM1917's battery life benefitted greatly from just NoLimits Magisk mod debloat. No issues at all. Stock OOS 9.5.11 and stock kernel. Also have forced 90hz and fixed resolution to QHD+.
NoLimits + Renovate Ice + Arter79 kernel has done me wonders. ~ 10%/hr drain on screen .3-.5%/hr drain standby.
Just debloating might improve it...
galaxys said:
Just debloating might improve it...
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what does debloating mean..
galaxys said:
Just debloating might improve it...
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Oh, I know, but I think might be not enough, I tried xXx limited yet.
jayxiao171735 said:
Oh, I know, but I think might be not enough, I tried xXx limited yet.
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Install a good kernel (smurf kernel, kirisukura) and set it up for battery saving