Hi all, I hope this isn't a thread that has already been posted... I found it interesting that there is no TWRP or any custom recovery for Pixel 7/7 Pro. I understand it's not needed to flash different rom's such as Paranoid Android or Spark OS but I figure it would be helpful no? My prior device was a iPhone 12, haven't run a rooted android since my Galaxy s4 way back in the day. Is this something somebody is actively pursuing or no as it's not needed? Curious on what the situation is with this, loving my p7 pro. Cheers!
TWRP has been nearly an entire Android version behind for awhile now so I haven't been able to use it on my last couple phones. I believe it is still being worked on but since it's been so far behind due to the changes to Android and it's migration to ramdisk installation it's mostly fallen out of use sadly. I do miss it sometimes as well.
jake.99x3 said:
I figure it would be helpful no?
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No, its useless. Pixel devices have unlocked bootloaders and support fastboot, therefore recovery is not needed.
Well, a lot of old and new Samsung phones and tablets are running TWRP and root. Yes, with Android 13. Is it strictly because there is that A and B split thing going on ? Personally I have not written to my B partition in many months if ever.
Can there be a lesson learned from that ?
96carboard said:
No, its useless. Pixel devices have unlocked bootloaders and support fastboot, therefore recovery is not needed.
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I don't know about that. It may not be needed but the advantages are profoundly easier than having to learn terminal commands
Also you can't do flashes and restores without a PC whereas when we had active working custom recovery it could be done anywhere at anytime.
JakeDHS07 said:
Also you can't do flashes and restores without a PC whereas when we had active working custom recovery it could be done anywhere at anytime.
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Exactly! I used to do a complete backup, periodically. One day I screwed something up playing around at work, went to Recover and flashed my backup. Fixed it in a few minutes
Yeah it would be nice to have for sure
Same here, a nice custom recovery would be sweet. If I had any clue how to build one I would be all over it.
JakeDHS07 said:
Also you can't do flashes and restores without a PC whereas when we had active working custom recovery it could be done anywhere at anytime.
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Is it even possible to do a nandroid backup anymore with the changes to Android filesystems and permissions? I mean you can't even flash a full firmware package in fastboot anymore, part of it has to be done from fastbootd.
old_fart said:
Well, a lot of old and new Samsung phones and tablets are running TWRP and root. Yes, with Android 13. Is it strictly because there is that A and B split thing going on ? Personally I have not written to my B partition in many months if ever.
Can there be a lesson learned from that ?
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The A/B system is not for power users who manually flash things. It's so that updates for the 99% who use their phones normally can be done in the background. It also adds a failsafe in case one slot gets corrupted since it will automatically boot the other slot after so many failures. Previously such a failure would be an automatic brick.
Also, I think most of us power users are using the A/B system normally at this point too. You have to go out of your way to not flash an update to the other slot, all the defaults do.
HipKat said:
I don't know about that. It may not be needed but the advantages are profoundly easier than having to learn terminal commands
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That's insane. And dangerous. When it messes up, good luck fixing it.
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That's insane. And dangerous. When it messes up, good luck fixing it.
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Ummmm, what??
TWRP is a big miss for me. Nandroid Backups and phone based file explorer without having to boot to Android were just two of the numerous features I used regularly. To say it would be useless is ridiculous.
I for one would be very happy to have it make an appearance on the Pixel 7 Pro. I'm not holding my breath though, the Pixel 6 and 6 Pro still don't have it I believe.
I've used TWRP in the past. I've never understood the attraction.
Even with A/B a recovery is useful, but why would I want to play with volume buttons to express my wishes?
Just take a stock recovery, patch adbd to be rooted, patch the kernel to be permissive, done.
As Patrick Henry said, "Give me ADB or give me death!"
Renate said:
I've used TWRP in the past. I've never understood the attraction.
Even with A/B a recovery is useful, but why would I want to play with volume buttons to express my wishes?
Just take a stock recovery, patch adbd to be rooted, patch the kernel to be permissive, done.
As Patrick Henry said, "Give me ADB or give me death!"
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You sure you've used it? TWRP is fully touch screen.
Beefheart said:
You sure you've used it? TWRP is fully touch screen.
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You're right. I'm conflating stock recovery with TWRP.
I do remember big tiles and tapping on them.
Still, I prefer to keep my fingers on the (desktop) keyboard.
Renate said:
You're right. I'm conflating stock recovery with TWRP.
I do remember big tiles and tapping on them.
Still, I prefer to keep my fingers on the (desktop) keyboard.
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I'm as much of a command line fan as the next nerd, but TWRP offers multiple features not available via ADB.
Renate said:
I've used TWRP in the past. I've never understood the attraction.
Even with A/B a recovery is useful, but why would I want to play with volume buttons to express my wishes?
Just take a stock recovery, patch adbd to be rooted, patch the kernel to be permissive, done.
As Patrick Henry said, "Give me ADB or give me death!"
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Because when you don't have a computer to connect to do a restore, for example, it's imperative to have a Recovery that does backups so you can
HipKat said:
Because when you don't have a computer to connect to do a restore, for example, it's imperative to have a Recovery that does backups so you can
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Ok. You're doing backups to a USB flash drive? Fair enough.
But, since this thread is questioning whether any custom recovery is in development wouldn't it be helpful if someone knocked off at least a custom recovery to the extent that I mentioned?
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Ok. You're doing backups to a USB flash drive? Fair enough.
But, since this thread is questioning whether any custom recovery is in development wouldn't it be helpful if someone knocked off at least a custom recovery to the extent that I mentioned?
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No, doing backups to internal storage, actually. How am I going to access a USB flash drive with a telephone if I’m sitting at a friend’s house and something gets corrupted, phone won’t boot, and I have to reboot to recovery where I can access an internal back up? Which cannot be done with stock recovery.
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Mount USB storage does not work with CWM. Will sort out soon... maybe...
First thing.
Question | Answer
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Users:
Q: Why not make 2 separate posts?
A1: Normally I'd say "I Didn't feel like it", but its more like "I didn't see the need to."
A2: You all should be adult enough to say which you're using if problems arise.
Q: Why label beta.
A: Cause testing is really needed and I don't count myself as a test.
Q: What works?
A: Flashing, USB mount, wiping.... you know recovery stuff....
Developers:
Q: We've been trying and havent been able to get usb mounting to work... How did you?
A1: I didnt really... I figured the problem didnt come from any of the setup used to build the recovery... but the recovery kernel itself.
A2: I used the stable CWM5504, pulled the kernel from that and used the prebuilt kernel in place of building from source. Hopefully a real genius *cough*kornyone*cough* hits the nail *IF* he ever has spare time. PS thanks to xmcwildchild's stable.
Now your toys!
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Clockworkmod 6.0.4.6 (MD5: 9d37a1029b9f5e79bbef8cb55632e7d7)
Team Win Recovery Project 2.6.3.0 (MD5: 2a227d0607e10892e7d5e15d0d3a4625)
Team Win Recovery Project 2.6.3.0 w/ DumLock (MD5: f3af450c43c03d790f8e1241a60d6efc)
TWRP Update info @ http://teamw.in/project/twrp2
Backups (there are some changes in future roms that made it problematic to flash with older recoveries, noobie kieranmenor reported a problem not being able to flash older roms with the current TWRP.)
Clockworkmod 6.0.3.6
Team Win Recovery Project 2.6.3.0
Team Win Recovery Project 2.6.3.0 w/ DumLock
Typical disclaimers apply. Good luck.
Downloading twrp now. Any difference between this and riyals version?
mattlowry said:
Downloading twrp now. Any difference between this and riyals version?
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Aside from being the latest, I dont think so. I didnt even remember about Riyal's until you mentioned it otherwise I may have just not done it at all.
ahh yes thanks for making these! i contacted riyal about twrp 2.3, he said he didn't know it was out of beta and that he would look into it (and then i think his phone died?) and now you picked it up! will test and let you know how it goes.
btw does it have offline charging? i remember riyal made an offline charging version of his twrp
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for those who want to flash this but don't know how, here are instructions (from an old recovery thread by xmc_wildchild22
From Terminal Emulator
su
dd if=/sdcard/RECOVERY.img of=/dev/block/mmcblk0p21
reboot recovery
From ADB
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot flash recovery RECOVERY.img
fastboot reboot
where "RECOVERY.img" is the respective name of the recovery you want to flash
anitgandhi said:
ahh yes thanks for making these! i contacted riyal about twrp 2.3, he said he didn't know it was out of beta and that he would look into it (and then i think his phone died?) and now you picked it up! will test and let you know how it goes.
btw does it have offline charging? i remember riyal made an offline charging version of his twrp
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No, it does what the phone normally does. Orange blinking light where you cant do squat til you take it off the charger.
I also dont know how he did it, and... may not be able to add it myself. :/
SilverL said:
First thing.
Users:
Q: Why not make 2 separate posts?
A1: Normally I'd say "I Didn't feel like it", but its more like "I didn't see the need to."
A2: You all should be adult enough to say which you're using if problems arise.
Q: Why label beta.
A: Cause testing is really needed and I don't count myself as a test.
Q: What works?
A: Flashing, USB mount, wiping.... you know recovery stuff....
Developers:
Q: We've been trying and havent been able to get usb mounting to work... How did you?
A1: I didnt really... I figured the problem didnt come from any of the setup used to build the recovery... but the recovery kernel itself.
A2: I used the stable CWM5504, pulled the kernel from that and used the prebuilt kernel in place of building from source. Hopefully a real genius *cough*kornyone*cough* hits the nail *IF* he ever has spare time.
Clockworkmod 6.0.2.7
Team Win Recovery Project 2.3.3.0
Typical disclaimers apply. Good luck.
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What are the technical benefits/detractions (pluses/minuses) of these compared to CWM 5.5.0.4 or 5.0.2.7?
Fuzi0719 said:
What are the technical benefits/detractions (pluses/minuses) of these compared to CWM 5.5.0.4 or 5.0.2.7?
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Aside from reading somewhere that the newer versions of android(4.2+) will require a recovery update.
Also saw it here too.
Both of these recoveries have installing from sideload, ability to delete backups from within the recovery, higher version numbers(always means better -_-) and some other minor things.
TWRP you can name backups immediately. Full touch interface, extremely theme-able. Works well with GooManager. Queue multiple zips.
CWM has another backup type option dedupe(not a fan of it). Looks better...
Essentially about as technical as going from ICS to JB and JB to new JB. -_-
post the boardconfig.mk you used with this, let me see if you're missing any flags
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post the boardconfig.mk you used with this, let me see if you're missing any flags
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Its the default one on TeamDS. Minor changes because I had to use that prebuild kernel. Its currently a mess. What do you think would be missing? Have you encountered any problems?
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Its the default one on TeamDS. Minor changes because I had to use that prebuild kernel. Its currently a mess. What do you think would be missing? Have you encountered any problems?
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When I turned on the theme prom and the emulate processes or something like that in twrp I had problems flaking a rom I even rebooted the recovery so I turned that option off then my roms flash again
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butch87402 said:
When I turned on the theme prom and the emulate processes or something like that in twrp I had problems flaking a rom I even rebooted the recovery so I turned that option off then my roms flash again
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Exact options would be helpful...
Anyway. If you turned on a theme and the simulate actions for theme testing.
Then I assume the simulate options is what caused the not problem you had.
Before you start creating a custom theme, you should tap on settings and tap the checkbox for "Simulate most actions for theme testing" to enable simualation mode. This setting will cause TWRP to simulate most actions including installing zips, backup, restore, partitioning sdcards, etc. In this mode you can safely test a theme without wearing out the memory chips on your device. There's also a checkbox for simulating failure that will appear on the settings page when you turn on simulation mode. This checkbox will cause TWRP to report a failure for all simulated actions instead of success so that you can provide the appropriate message on the screen. Don't forget to disable simulation mode when you're done!
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- Source
SilverL said:
Aside from reading somewhere that the newer versions of android(4.2+) will require a recovery update.
Also saw it here too.
Both of these recoveries have installing from sideload, ability to delete backups from within the recovery, higher version numbers(always means better -_-) and some other minor things.
TWRP you can name backups immediately. Full touch interface, extremely theme-able. Works well with GooManager. Queue multiple zips.
CWM has another backup type option dedupe(not a fan of it). Looks better...
Essentially about as technical as going from ICS to JB and JB to new JB. -_-
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Is the new CWM or TWRP compatible with the backups done with CWM 5.5.0.4/5.0.2.7? All of my nandroid backups are done with 5.5.0.4.
Fuzi0719 said:
Is the new CWM or TWRP compatible with the backups done with CWM 5.5.0.4/5.0.2.7? All of my nandroid backups are done with 5.5.0.4.
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TWRP is not compatible with CWM and vice versa. The CWM backups should still be compatible. One way to test is to flash, see what happens if it doesnt work... go back? Doesnt kill. I did it when testing and swapped between TWRP and CWM and back to old 5.5.0.4 then back to these again. Now I'm on TWRP, hopefully permanently.
Flashed TWRP and immediately backed up my CM9 nightly without a problem. Mounted USB storage and transferred over a new ROM, went back and forth to bootloader since I'm S-ON, no problem. This recovery doesn't feel beta to me, in a good way. I haven't tried restoring from my backup yet but I'm not worried. I got spoiled using 4EXT on my old phone and going back to CWM never felt right. This TWRP is definitely a step in the right direction. Being able to boot into bootloader from recovery is awesome from a S-ON standpoint. No more waiting to power off and then restart holding buttons or screwing it up and having to remove my case for a batpull. Full touch support speaks for itself.
Thanks so much for getting us a new recovery option. This is the biggest update for our device in a while :good:
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Flashed TWRP and immediately backed up my CM9 nightly without a problem. Mounted USB storage and transferred over a new ROM, went back and forth to bootloader since I'm S-ON, no problem. This recovery doesn't feel beta to me, in a good way. I haven't tried restoring from my backup yet but I'm not worried. I got spoiled using 4EXT on my old phone and going back to CWM never felt right. This TWRP is definitely a step in the right direction. Being able to boot into bootloader from recovery is awesome from a S-ON standpoint. No more waiting to power off and then restart holding buttons or screwing it up and having to remove my case for a batpull. Full touch support speaks for itself.
Thanks so much for getting us a new recovery option. This is the biggest update for our device in a while :good:
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Overall they should be stable, I listed them as beta because I cannot account my successes as testing. I would like to see a few more pages before classifying as stable.
I'd also like to possibly build them completely from source at some point too.
@SilverL
I just noticed your thread and I'm glad you saved me time updating my TWRP recovery. I lost all the source code of my previous twrp and was frustrated porting it again from scratch Downloading it now...
By the way the offline charging version of my TWRP is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1374782&d=1349346744
just extract the ramdisk and you should see the workaround I made. There's no additional binary added. The offline charging I made is just pure shell script and edits on the rc files so it should be pretty easy for you.
Regarding a full compile use a CM7 kernel and add the doubleshot board files and drivers and you should be good to go. Also I used the boardconfig of MT4G(non slide).
Anyways the boardconfig isn't the issue but the kernel. The USB driver of ICS isn't compatible with twrp and that's the issue. Even Dees_Troy couldn't even make a build with fully working USB on CM9
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@SilverL
I just noticed your thread and I'm glad you saved me time updating my TWRP recovery. I lost all the source code of my previous twrp and was frustrated porting it again from scratch Downloading it now...
By the way the offline charging version of my TWRP is here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1374782&d=1349346744
just extract the ramdisk and you should see the workaround I made. There's no additional binary added. The offline charging I made is just pure shell script and edits on the rc files so it should be pretty easy for you.
Regarding a full compile use a CM7 kernel and add the doubleshot board files and drivers and you should be good to go. Also I used the boardconfig of MT4G(non slide).
Anyways the boardconfig isn't the issue but the kernel. The USB driver of ICS isn't compatible with twrp and that's the issue. Even Dees_Troy couldn't even make a build with fully working USB on CM9
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Thanks, I figured it needed a gb kernel to do its thing. Especially after I realize the android usb kernel driver is also responsible for adb(which didnt work either). Also its not just with twrp, it affects cwm as well. Both of these use the exact same kernel.
If getting an old kernel if required then I wont even worry about it. I'll just keep my CM10 build environment the way it is just in case I have to update these in the future. I will also check out the shell script and the rc edit. Thanks, if you want to take twrp back its all yours.
to be more specific it's this one
init.rc
service detect_charge /sbin/detect_charge
oneshot
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and on
/sbin/detect_charge
#!/sbin/sh
if [ `cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/charging_enabled` = '1' ]
then
start offmode_charging
else
start recovery
fi
kill -9 $$
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Can't do anything as of the moment since I don't have any working MT4GS at hand. Also I have lots of different projects planned so I might leave twrp to you as it is here.
Riyal said:
to be more specific it's this one
init.rc
and on
/sbin/detect_charge
Can't do anything as of the moment since I don't have any working MT4GS at hand. Also I have lots of different projects planned so I might leave twrp to you as it is here.
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I'll try to throw this in for the guys that want it....
And since no one has complained(except for that one guy who couldnt flash because he put his phone in the 'feature' to simulate those events rather than actually do them) or died. I'll consider these stable.
Might also have to add my usual, "I am a jerk. Will laugh at you if you do something dumb, etc." disclaimer to this as well since.... most people dont know that I am. -_-
Flashed CWM 6!!!
everything is fine
however, transfering titanium backup files from pc to microsd class 10 is kinda of slow when i mounted it as usb storage inside the recovery
and
thank you for your good work. What's next? CWM touch?
Is it possible to root one plus one, without deleting any data and apps from it? I just want root access but don't want any custom rom.
yes, of course..
root doesn't delete any of your data
senaferdy79 said:
yes, of course..
root doesn't delete any of your data
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Thanks for that. How can I do that?
#newtorooting
senaferdy79 said:
yes, of course..
root doesn't delete any of your data
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That isn't technically true. In order to get root you must have a custom recovery installed. In order to install a custom recovery you must unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device.
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sourabhkejriwal said:
Thanks for that. How can I do that?
#newtorooting
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Sorry you got your hopes up, but the other poster isn't right. As per my reply to him you need to unlock your bootloader first, which is going to wipe your device. I'd suggest backing up any files that you have that are important to you. As for your apps and settings, you'll have to set them up again afterwards. Go to my guide thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/guides-bacon-timmaaas-how-to-guides-t2839471
You need to follow (in order) sections 1, 2, 3, and 4. This will give you root access on your stock ROM. You should also follow section 10, it's very important that you make a backup of your EFS partition.
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That isn't technically true. In order to get root you must have a custom recovery installed. In order to install a custom recovery you must unlock the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader wipes the device.[
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So are you saying all the many how to's that tell you that you can skip installing recover are wrong? Apparently, I don't have enough posts yet to create a link but I've seen posts here on XDA that say other wise and the one I have in front of me at the moment is from ibtimes . com titled "how-root-oneplus-one-install-twrp-recovery-1450708"
Their "Step-7" reads
Step-7: If you want to root the phone without installing TWRP recovery, type the following command
fastboot boot twrp.img
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I guess the real question being, why would you need a custom recovery?
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So are you saying all the many how to's that tell you that you can skip installing recover are wrong? Apparently, I don't have enough posts yet to create a link but I've seen posts here on XDA that say other wise and the one I have in front of me at the moment is from ibtimes . com titled "how-root-oneplus-one-install-twrp-recovery-1450708"
Their "Step-7" reads
I guess the real question being, why would you need a custom recovery?
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You're looking at outdated information. They used to be correct, but now they are wrong. This is because you can no longer use the fastboot boot recovery.img command with a locked bootloader. In fact, that functionality was removed quite some time ago.
You need a custom recovery because that's how you flash SuperSU to get root. There's no way around it.
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The default recovery will only flash cm signed zip, which is another reason for needing a custom recovery. That method you mention at ibtimes meant that it would allow you to, for one boot cycle, do a "live boot" of twrp
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But how is anything going to be written to the system partition if it is locked ?
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You're looking at outdated information. They used to be correct, but now they are wrong. This is because you can no longer use the fastboot boot recovery.img command with a locked bootloader. In fact, that functionality was removed quite some time ago.
You need a custom recovery because that's how you flash SuperSU to get root. There's no way around it.
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Ugh, was afraid of that, you might want to add a comment to that effect to your guide....
Would have been nice to just add a setting to the default recovery to allow you to toggle whether you need a signed zip or not. Sucks that I could root my SGS III (which is far less hacker friendly than the One) without wiping it but I can't do that for the One, all i want is root for the moment. However, after playing around some more I'm getting stick before I even get that far; I can get ADB to find the device but when I adb reboot bootloader I cannot get fastboot to find the device. I've tried multiple drivers, different USB ports. When my One goes into fastboot the screen seems awfully dim, almost like it hasn't completely initialized, is that normal? And if so, any suggestions on why I can get adb to work but not fastboot?
pdhx said:
Ugh, was afraid of that, you might want to add a comment to that effect to your guide....
Would have been nice to just add a setting to the default recovery to allow you to toggle whether you need a signed zip or not. Sucks that I could root my SGS III (which is far less hacker friendly than the One) without wiping it but I can't do that for the One, all i want is root for the moment. However, after playing around some more I'm getting stick before I even get that far; I can get ADB to find the device but when I adb reboot bootloader I cannot get fastboot to find the device. I've tried multiple drivers, different USB ports. When my One goes into fastboot the screen seems awfully dim, almost like it hasn't completely initialized, is that normal? And if so, any suggestions on why I can get adb to work but not fastboot?
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The one's bootloader is not like a nexus one where you can at least reboot recovery etc, once it boots thats it
what do get when you type fastboot devices ?
bombadier said:
The one's bootloader is not like a nexus one where you can at least reboot recovery etc, once it boots thats it
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Which seems to be somewhat limiting for such an otherwise developer friendly device?
bombadier said:
what do get when you type fastboot devices ?
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Nada, nothing, nil. however, "adb devices" works fine... WTF?
pdhx said:
Which seems to be somewhat limiting for such an otherwise developer friendly device?
Nada, nothing, nil. however, "adb devices" works fine... WTF?
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Point one was just to say there is not anything really you can do in the bootloader, being able to reboot to recovery etc is actually a handy feature
Try a different fastboot.exe ? if you say that adb works perfectly then there has to be something wrong with your fastboot binary
I have attached my one,download and change the name back to .exe and see what happens
Going to need more info in order to help
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Point one was just to say there is not anything really you can do in the bootloader, being able to reboot to recovery etc is actually a handy feature
Try a different fastboot.exe ? if you say that adb works perfectly then there has to be something wrong with your fastboot binary
I have attached my one,download and change the name back to .exe and see what happens
Going to need more info in order to help
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Fair point about bootloader, what I don't get is why they forced you to have to do the unlock to root? All I started out wanting to do was install Titanium and run a Nandroid or two. Guess if I'm going to have to wipe I guess I may end up installing a Lollipop ROM. However, I still can't get there. The fast boot you supplied gives the same problem. I was running the latest fastboot from the Android SDK and your's appears to be the same (though I haven't done a binary compare). As far as I can tell that leaves the device drivers, the laptop, or the phone itself. I'm running Win 7 SP 1 64 bit and I've tried various drivers including the Samsung the Google generic and they make no difference. Not sure how they would since adb works but I've seen some suggestions that drivers can be finicky in this regard.
What else can I tell you that might help?
Seems since I can get into the recovery that comes with the phone I could maybe get a works around somehow?
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Fair point about bootloader, what I don't get is why they forced you to have to do the unlock to root? All I started out wanting to do was install Titanium and run a Nandroid or two. Guess if I'm going to have to wipe I guess I may end up installing a Lollipop ROM. However, I still can't get there. The fast boot you supplied gives the same problem. I was running the latest fastboot from the Android SDK and your's appears to be the same (though I haven't done a binary compare). As far as I can tell that leaves the device drivers, the laptop, or the phone itself. I'm running Win 7 SP 1 64 bit and I've tried various drivers including the Samsung the Google generic and they make no difference. Not sure how they would since adb works but I've seen some suggestions that drivers can be finicky in this regard.
What else can I tell you that might help?
Seems since I can get into the recovery that comes with the phone I could maybe get a works around somehow?
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They're "forcing" you to unlock the bootloader in order to root the device because that's the universally accepted standard (unlock bootloader, install custom recovery, flash root). Some devices have super secure bootloaders and that's why you end up needing to use hacks to get those devices rooted, but that isn't the normal way to go about it. Anyway, there's no advantage to leaving the bootloader at all. There's also no disadvantage to unlocking the bootloader at all. You might say that the fact that the device is wiped during the unlocking process is a disadvantage, but that fact is very well documented both here, on the OnePlus forums, and pretty much any other reputable tech site that mentions unlocking the bootloader on this phone. The point to that last sentence? It pays to research a device thoroughly before buying it, or before using it, the wiping of the device is no issue at all if you do it when you receive the phone (prior to using it), like many people have. But in your situation you're just going to have to backup any important media from the phone prior to unlocking.
Anyway, on to your fastboot issue. Exactly which drivers do you have installed on your PC? Do you have any other phone drivers or software installed on the PC? And do you have access to another PC in case the one you're using is the source of the issue?
Got it, 27th try (give or take) is the charm.... Had to use USBdeview and uninstall the Google and the Qualcomm drivers. Reinstalled the Google drivers (after a reboot) and got it to work. Guess I could have figured that out from dev manager by watching what drivers got activated while fastboot was active but nothing ever jumped out at me as an obvious culprit.
Interesting to note that TWRP now automatically prompts you to install SuperSU if you reboot after installing it. Maybe it found the zip but either way, nice touch!
Now to go and decide what ROM to install....
Thanks for your help!
I would suggest temasek unofficial cm12 ROM. Been using it pretty much as a daily driver since version 1.something of the ROM and no problems. At this point it's been almost a month of not having to boot into my cm11s ROM lol. I use it with AK kernel, seems like a good match cuz both devs are working together looks like. Flash AK ukm special edition after flashing his kernel and install synapse from play store if you want to play around with settings of the kernel
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zenix23456 said:
I have been using AnyRooter for months and it is quite good to root OnePlus phones.
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Except the Oneplus One.
Ok I have the bootloader unlocked.
I was hoping then I could do the following
ADB Debugging on
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp-3.1.1-1-fastboot-sailfish.img
But its not booting it. Pixel TWRP Image
So my question is can i modify the image to make the pixel 2 boot it?
Please advise?
Can I root without using TWRP?
Thanks,
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Ok I have the bootloader unlocked.
I was hoping then I could do the following
ADB Debugging on
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp-3.1.1-1-fastboot-sailfish.img
But its not booting it. Pixel TWRP Image
So my question is can i modify the image to make the pixel 2 boot it?
Please advise?
Can I root without using TWRP?
Thanks,
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What makes you believe that TWRP for the original Pixel will work on the Pixel 2? Likely you'll have to wait for a recovery for the Pixel 2.
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What makes you believe that TWRP for the original Pixel will work on the Pixel 2? Likely you'll have to wait for a recovery for the Pixel 2.
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Yeah I understand that. I was just hoping that since they are so similar it would work. Especially since I am not going to install it on my recovery just boot it to root and suhide.
I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something or something I could change in the image to make it boot on a 2 .
Thanks though for your thoughts!
bluh5d said:
Yeah I understand that. I was just hoping that since they are so similar it would work. Especially since I am not going to install it on my recovery just boot it to root and suhide.
I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something or something I could change in the image to make it boot on a 2 .
Thanks though for your thoughts!
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The similarities are only on the surface my friend. When dealing with computers, similar and close is rarely good enough. You need exact.
bluh5d said:
Ok I have the bootloader unlocked.
I was hoping then I could do the following
ADB Debugging on
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot boot twrp-3.1.1-1-fastboot-sailfish.img
But its not booting it. Pixel TWRP Image
So my question is can i modify the image to make the pixel 2 boot it?
Please advise?
Can I root without using TWRP?
Thanks,
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The MSM in them is totally different. Plus panel config, clock plan, power grid etc. Your original recovery kernel will not boot on Pixel2, so this is completely expected.
evilwombat said:
The MSM in them is totally different. Plus panel config, clock plan, power grid etc. Your original recovery kernel will not boot on Pixel2, so this is completely expected.
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Can I root with latest supersu without recovery ?
Someone's bound to hose up their phone. Wondering where factory images are?
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Someone's bound to hose up their phone. Wondering where factory images are?
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Yes. I agree. Might be me right. I wasn't planning on flashing recovery though just booting it.
If you are feeling adventurous (as it seems you already are!) you might try the twrp-3-1-pixel-bootable-mod.img located here: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120753892 ? I used the instructions at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-how-to-systemlessly-root-pixel-xl-t3660324 to root the 2016 Pixel (not xl) and if I upgrade to Pixel 2 might try that. You might just try fastbooting the twrp img referenced there and then flashing the supersu referenced there without the other modifications GroovinChip did. Again you are taking a risk trying this on "dissimilar" hardware.
If your bootloader is unlocked and you want root.
Try installing Chain fire's Supersu from the play store or install the apk.
I do not have my P2 yet to try.
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me_droid said:
If you are feeling adventurous (as it seems you already are!) you might try the twrp-3-1-pixel-bootable-mod.img located here: https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=745425885120753892 ? I used the instructions at https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/how-to/guide-how-to-systemlessly-root-pixel-xl-t3660324 to root the 2016 Pixel (not xl) and if I upgrade to Pixel 2 might try that. You might just try fastbooting the twrp img referenced there and then flashing the supersu referenced there without the other modifications GroovinChip did. Again you are taking a risk trying this on "dissimilar" hardware.
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I think this may be a waste of time because it was modded to work on Oreo. They have already released a version that works on Oreo 3-1-1 that I already tried it wouldnt boot it. I will probably just wait even though i want to play. So i guess I can just say yep I have a pixel 2 with the bootloader unlocked and thats about it.
This can't come quickly enough - I always take my Ad Blocker for granted until it's not there anymore :'(
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This can't come quickly enough - I always take my Ad Blocker for granted until it's not there anymore :'(
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Yeah, I take having root completely for granted. I guess I've never bought a phone right at the moment of release before. If I didn't really need a new phone, I suppose I would have waited. Anyway, I figured out that you can block ads, without root, with apps that run all your traffic through a vpn (that's really only running locally on the phone). The best options after much research seem to me to be Netguard and AdGuard (though I haven't tried them yet). They both also include a firewall (Netguard is primarly a firewall), which I want.
https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/blob/master/ADBLOCKING.md
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-android/overview.html
DNS66 also seems to be higly regarded, but it doesn't include a firewall. There are other firewall only apps, which work with the VPN method, but you can only run one VPN on Android at a time, so if you want both functions, without root, you need an app that does both.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/app-dns66-source-host-ad-blocker-root-t3487497
Anyway, that's my plan until root comes along. Then I will go back to AdAway and AFWall+.
There is no kernel source released for the Pixel 2/XL yet. It is based on the 4.4 kernel, this should make development very smooth.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/psa-fastboot-booting-bad-image-confuse-t3692932
I was wondering if anyone knew about the partition schemes and whether there is enough room on the boot image to install custom recovery on the P4a?
The Pixel 3A did not have enough room on the RAM disk on the boot image. So installing TWRP, even a stripped down version compressed, on the P3a was a no-go.
Custom recovery was not necessary on the P3a. Just having and unlocked bootloader and root via Magisk gives a lot of options including custom ROMs.
However, I'm still curious if custom recovery will ever come to the P4a?
12paq said:
I was wondering if anyone knew about the partition schemes and whether there is enough room on the boot image to install custom recovery on the P4a?
The Pixel 3A did not have enough room on the RAM disk on the boot image. So installing TWRP, even a stripped down version compressed, on the P3a was a no-go.
Custom recovery was not necessary on the P3a. Just having and unlocked bootloader and root via Magisk gives a lot of options including custom ROMs.
However, I'm still curious if custom recovery will ever come to the P4a?
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LMAO. Give it up. We're going to be on 11. Good night
Golf c said:
LMAO. Give it up. We're going to be on 11. Good night
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Not everyone will move to 11 right away if thet can get TWRP working on A10 first.
digger16309 said:
Not everyone will move to 11 right away if thet can get TWRP working on A10 first.
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Good luck my friend. Stay on 10
We don't even have kernel source yet..
I don't think there was twrp for a pixel for a couple years was there? Pixel 2? And that didn't get past rc I don't think.
Golf c said:
LMAO. Give it up. We're going to be on 11. Good night
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Thanks! As I said TWRP has not been needed and I was just curious.
However I did enjoy your insecure condescending attitude. It made me LMAO.
Again, thanks! ??
dmb219 said:
I don't think there was twrp for a pixel for a couple years was there? Pixel 2? And that didn't get past rc I don't think.
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I know, it looks like TWRP has been doing a long slow death spiral.
We have TWRP on Android 10 for the Pixel C tablet. But of course among other things, there's no A/B partitions and Google abandoned support for the device a while ago.
Might be a while, pixel 3+ devices haven't had a 100% working TWRP for a long time.
They can still sideload ROMs and patch boot images with adb/fastboot
I'll miss this moving on from my 2xl. Nice to flash and update things without needing a PC
Golf c said:
Good luck my friend. Stay on 10
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I will until there is EdXposed for 11 + module updates.
digger16309 said:
I will until there is EdXposed for 11 + module updates.
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Yucky
Someone correct me if I am wrong but there are no factory images yet for the 4a so no rooting with Magisk until then?
Is it at least possible to unlock the bootloader right away? Is that just standard fastboot ADB procedure or is there something Pixel specific(first one)
dpaine88 said:
Is it at least possible to unlock the bootloader right away? Is that just standard fastboot ADB procedure or is there something Pixel specific(first one)
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Just unlocked my Pixel4a using the standard ADB commands. Will say that OEM Unlocking stayed grayed out, until I connected to my WiFi (No SIM) and let the phone connect to the mother-ship.
Archangel said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong but there are no factory images yet for the 4a so no rooting with Magisk until then?
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yea i believe you are correct, i think same steps for the pix4 can be applied on the 4a https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-root-magisk/
im not sure if there are other ways to get the boot img but id rather just wait for the factory images to release & mess with it then. gonna make a cronjob script to watch / notify me once its up.
renzyyy said:
yea i believe you are correct, i think same steps for the pix4 can be applied on the 4a https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4-root-magisk/
im not sure if there are other ways to get the boot img but id rather just wait for the factory images to release & mess with it then. gonna make a cronjob script to watch / notify me once its up.
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If I get around to it this weekend, I may just do a rom dump to extract the boot.img. Haven't done it in a while. I'm still waiting for some screen protectors to arrive before I mess with my phone.
Archangel said:
Someone correct me if I am wrong but there are no factory images yet for the 4a so no rooting with Magisk until then?
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I can't find them either.
Isn't Android 11 going to make it more difficult to hide root anymore? I am tempted to root, but heard (or read) somewhere that with android 11 that it may not be worth it as any app (or something like that) will be able to see and not work.
This is the first phone I've owned that I think I'll be satisfied with stock. Ad guard does everything I need as ad away did. And it doesn't need root. Everything is fast! Now I don't have to hack Google pay.
edufur said:
This is the first phone I've owned that I think I'll be satisfied with stock. Ad guard does everything I need as ad away did. And it doesn't need root. Everything is fast! Now I don't have to hack Google pay.
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Curious about adguard. I just tried it and won't install with chrome as browser.
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Okay... I've been searching all over the net for this problem and I keep getting posts that skirt the issue. At least, that's what it seems. So I will begin and you can decide... and thanks for whatever info you can throw my way.
Brand new OnePlus 8T. I want to root it. Duh. So, Got the Tiny ADB and Fastboot package and all the rest, but the issue is with unlocking the bootloader. Other problems may appear later, but this is the issue now.
So, connect phone to PC (Windows 8.1) and the only way that ABD recognizes my phone is when the USB prefs are set to 'No Data Transfer". Yes, I have installed the proper drivers from the phone. So, when the 'No Data Transfer' is selected, ADB recognizes the phone and will issue the command, ABD Reboot Bootloader and the phone reboots to the bootloader. Nice! Unfortunately, it appears that once the phone has booted to the bootloader, it has changed the USB Prefs and now ADB and fastboot do not see the phone. Obviously this sucks. And here is the problem. As far as I know, I have ticked off on all the proper settings. USB Debugging, etc. No joy!
I found a post elsewhere that showed how to set the default USB mode and that didn't work either. My experience has been that ADB used to see the phone under the 'File Transfer' and PTP options before, but it doesn't now. I can't explain this.
So, pretty frustrated. This shouldn't be so bloody difficult. It's only a couple of commands and I have done this with other phones in the past so it's not like I have no previous experience. But I have already wasted way too much time here this go around. Anyone have an answer? I'll be your best friend!!
Thanks all..
R
Try nother USB C cable. Some not able to handle data.
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Try nother USB C cable. Some not able to handle data.
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Thanks man... ya, I did try that to no avail.. but.. the fact that the original command works.. well. Don't think that is the problem, but thank you for taking the time to consider my problem. Cheers!
Ran Doid said:
Thanks man... ya, I did try that to no avail.. but.. the fact that the original command works.. well. Don't think that is the problem, but thank you for taking the time to consider my problem. Cheers!
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I had to install drivers for both ADB and bootloader mode. I documented what I did here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...t-fastbootd-driver-guide-for-windows.4282241/
BillGoss said:
I had to install drivers for both ADB and bootloader mode. I documented what I did here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...t-fastbootd-driver-guide-for-windows.4282241/
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Hey Thanks, Bill. I"ll give this a whirl and see how it goes. I'll report back after. Cheers!
Ok, that appears to have solved the driver problem. I was able to finally unlock the bootloader and flash twrp. Now it is stuck in a boot loop.. fun fun!
I had been following this guide
How to Install Official TWRP Recovery on OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8T and Root it
OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8T (codename: instantnoodle/kebab) was launched in the year April and October 2020 with Android 10 and 11 respectively. Recently
www.getdroidtips.com
to root my 8T, but it appears that this fellow was missing some info? I take it ya can't just flash twrp to recovery like usual. The picture is slowly coming together.. much more complex than the last few times I have rooted phones.
So I assume that flashing twrp writes over the stock recovery.. and that leads to this crashdump mode popping up. To fix this, I will need the stock recovery.img and flash that back into place? Feel free to chime in and thanks in advance!
R
Ran Doid said:
Ok, that appears to have solved the driver problem. I was able to finally unlock the bootloader and flash twrp. Now it is stuck in a boot loop.. fun fun!
I had been following this guide
How to Install Official TWRP Recovery on OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8T and Root it
OnePlus 8 and OnePlus 8T (codename: instantnoodle/kebab) was launched in the year April and October 2020 with Android 10 and 11 respectively. Recently
www.getdroidtips.com
to root my 8T, but it appears that this fellow was missing some info? I take it ya can't just flash twrp to recovery like usual. The picture is slowly coming together.. much more complex than the last few times I have rooted phones.
So I assume that flashing twrp writes over the stock recovery.. and that leads to this crashdump mode popping up. To fix this, I will need the stock recovery.img and flash that back into place? Feel free to chime in and thanks in advance!
R
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Flashing TWRP doesn't cause CrashDumps. They happen when you try to boot the system and something's not right.
You could try changing slots and then rebooting. That sometimes works (depending on what else you've done). You can do this in either TWRP or bootloader.
PS: if you use the reply button, then I'll be advised that you've posted a reply. Otherwise you'll have to wait until the next time I look to see if there's new posts in a thread.
BillGoss said:
Flashing TWRP doesn't cause CrashDumps. They happen when you try to boot the system and something's not right.
You could try changing slots and then rebooting. That sometimes works (depending on what else you've done). You can do this in either TWRP or bootloader.
PS: if you use the reply button, then I'll be advised that you've posted a reply. Otherwise you'll have to wait until the next time I look to see if there's new posts in a thread.
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Alrighty! Changing the slots did bring the phone back and it is now booting properly. But if I try to boot into recovery, it fails and goes to crashdump. Any ideas? Bad twrp image??
Ran Doid said:
Alrighty! Changing the slots did bring the phone back and it is now booting properly. But if I try to boot into recovery, it fails and goes to crashdump. Any ideas? Bad twrp image??
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Sorry, I've no idea about that. Try flashing TWRP again.
BillGoss said:
Sorry, I've no idea about that. Try flashing TWRP again.
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Okay, well.. I'll have to figure it out then. Thanks much, Bill. Appreciate your help. Happy Holidays!
Hi guys, to root the 8T it's by magisk_patched.img via magisk manager, not twrp (it's old school),
Root FR (sorry a'm frenche, and better explain to me.)
since Android 11 twrp is less good ...
Mickade said:
Hi guys, to root the 8T it's by magisk_patched.img via magisk manager, not twrp (it's old school),
Root FR (sorry a'm frenche, and better explain to me.)
since Android 11 twrp is less good ...
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What I like about TWRP is that I can do things without needing a PC. So rooting, back up and restore, install new ROMs, ...
And now, with version 3.6.0, TWRP works well on Android 11
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What I like about TWRP is that I can do things without needing a PC. So rooting, back up and restore, install new ROMs, ...
And now, with version 3.6.0, TWRP works well on Android 11
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Yes, that works,
but don't be surprised to have instabilities in the ROM!
I already had some,
by magisk patch it's more cleaner,
But you are a big boy.
Good luck,
Mickade said:
Yes, that works,
but don't be surprised to have instabilities in the ROM!
I already had some,
by magisk patch it's more cleaner,
But you are a big boy.
Good luck,
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Lol!
I've been using Magisk and TWRP for years, so I'm not only a "big boy" but also an "old dog".
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Lol!
I've been using Magisk and TWRP for years, so I'm not only a "big boy" but also an "old dog".
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that's not the problem to use it for years,
myself with android 10, I was using it, I was already using magisk in 2015, on my Sony z5c (with lineage 7.0.2/ base is the ROM Orange Telecom owner... )
but since Android 11, the data decryption is no longer the same.
just the 30 second twrp boot, I don't really like it, so restored a system with something like that ... lol
Magisk is the best Root solution!
I like this!
Since the magisk_patched has become root's solution, to A11.
an old dog!!
You like croquettes and the mash?
Thx,
Mickade said:
that's not the problem to use it for years,
myself with android 10, I was using it, I was already using magisk in 2015, on my Sony z5c (with lineage 7.0.2/ base is the ROM Orange Telecom owner... )
but since Android 11, the data decryption is no longer the same.
just the 30 second twrp boot, I don't really like it, so restored a system with something like that ... lol
Magisk is the best Root solution!
I like this!
Since the magisk_patched has become root's solution, to A11.
an old dog!!
You like croquettes and the mash?
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If they could fix the interminable start up time for TWRP that would be brilliant. But I believe the problem is with a file system check rather than the actual decryption which is quite fast.
Sorry, croquettes and mash aren't in my menu. But empanadas - absolutely!
Sorry, I had to leave this for a day or so, but I am back. BillGoss, looking at the guide I posted a link to earlier, would you say that guide is acceptable or are there issues with it? Theoretically that is? And does it depend on what build you are using?
Or if you know of a better process and files, please feel free to point me at it.
Many thanks
R
Ran Doid said:
Sorry, I had to leave this for a day or so, but I am back. BillGoss, looking at the guide I posted a link to earlier, would you say that guide is acceptable or are there issues with it? Theoretically that is? And does it depend on what build you are using?
Or if you know of a better process and files, please feel free to point me at it.
Many thanks
R
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Sorry, I have no interest in checking out non-XDA guides. We have enough (too many?) of them on XDA as it is.
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Sorry, I have no interest in checking out non-XDA guides. We have enough (too many?) of them on XDA as it is.
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There-in why I asked if you might point me at something reliable. But I guess not...
Thanks anyway..
Mickade said:
Hi guys, to root the 8T it's by magisk_patched.img via magisk manager, not twrp (it's old school),
Root FR (sorry a'm frenche, and better explain to me.)
since Android 11 twrp is less good ...
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Actually a trick you can use is in twrp if you have the magisk APK change the ext to zip and install in twrp it patches the boot img for you in right slot so you don't have to pull img from phone