Question Is the POCO X4 Pro 5G (veux) not worth a recommendation? - Redmi Note 11 Pro+ 5G (peux)/POCO X4 Pro 5G (veux)

We have a bunch of POCO X3 NFC (surya) running ArrowOS and I'm just thinking of buying two POCO X4 Pro 5G (veux), because it's Black Friday discounted and there is an official A13 version of ArrowOS for it, though there doesn't seem to be going on much here and there is also no ArrowOS thread in the "Development" section (why?).
So with the intention of installing ArrowOS 13 VANILLA right from the start, is the POCO X4 Pro 5G (veux) a recommendation or not (and if not, what else better to be used with ArrowOS 13)?

I am using ArrowOS and have no issues. Battery life is the same as stock without bloated apps.

i dont think this veux is a good phone to have, lot of downgrade from its predecessor unless youre desperately lookin for 5G phone.

Arya R said:
i dont think this veux is a good phone to have, lot of downgrade from its predecessor
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why? you mean vs X3? i just checked the specs and both processor and cameras are better, battery is a bit worse but it doesn't seem too bad as a phone?

_exian_ said:
why? you mean vs X3? i just checked the specs and both processor and cameras are better, battery is a bit worse but it doesn't seem too bad as a phone?
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What I meant The predecessor was the Redmi Note 10 Pro (sweet),
Here's my gripe :
1. at least on Indonesian miui flavor I can't do longer exposure than 15sec on the main lens unlike like my X3 Pro before (30 secs) ,
2. I'm sure the camera quality are at least similar with my X3 Pro (Vayu) but sometimes PEUX is better,
3. I could no longer play my library of ripped hdr Blu ray with HW acceleration on this phone or watch YouTube HDR videos.
PS : only bought this phone cause my vayu just died & I think the non pro X3 (Surya) with the 64mp Sony sensor will be a better shooter.

I recommend! veux is buttersmooth + safe with arrowos a13!
here the link: https://www.arrowos.net/download
click on poco on the sidebar, there you'll find veux!

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Is it Upgrading or Downgrading?

Poco f1 comes with Snapdragon 845 chip and now poco X2 comes with snapdragon 730G. According to benchmarks 730G score is low than the Snapdragon 845. So if I buy poco x2 coming from poco f1. Am I upgrading or Downgrading?
If you want 120Hz display + 4500mAh battery + Camera and some new features upgrade then Poco X2 is the way to go but if performance is your only priority then stick to the King Poco F1
Stonejacob said:
Poco f1 comes with Snapdragon 845 chip and now poco X2 comes with snapdragon 730G. According to benchmarks 730G score is low than the Snapdragon 845. So if I buy poco x2 coming from poco f1. Am I upgrading or Downgrading?
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I am gonna upgrade can't wait to feel the 120hz display in hand.
Is the upgrade worth it?
Stonejacob said:
Poco f1 comes with Snapdragon 845 chip and now poco X2 comes with snapdragon 730G. According to benchmarks 730G score is low than the Snapdragon 845. So if I buy poco x2 coming from poco f1. Am I upgrading or Downgrading?
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No, in terms of flagship specs. but consider it as a mid range phone and hope it will bring its pro version as the successor of poco f1.
If u live in India its OK, but for rest of the world in specially Europe , is not. Important lte bands are missing.
I'm thinking of letting my Note 8 Pro go and getting the 6/128 variant of this. Wondering the same thing about that.
Helhound0 said:
I'm thinking of letting my Note 8 Pro go and getting the 6/128 variant of this. Wondering the same thing about that.
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You will get the dual fron camera and fingerprint sensor on the power button.
CO.Wildfire.OL said:
If you want 120Hz display + 4500mAh battery + Camera and some new features upgrade then Poco X2 is the way to go but if performance is your only priority then stick to the King Poco F1
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I saw many videos on youtube regarding the refresh rate in Poco X2. Actually it can't compete with iPhone 11 pro 60HZ display, The animation and all needs to improve.
An SD 865 variant will come out before may
Stonejacob said:
I saw many videos on youtube regarding the refresh rate in Poco X2. Actually it can't compete with iPhone 11 pro 60HZ display, The animation and all needs to improve.
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You can't compare such a expensive iOS phone with this one.
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Helhound0 said:
I'm thinking of letting my Note 8 Pro go and getting the 6/128 variant of this. Wondering the same thing about that.
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Definitely POCO X2 is a better choice.
I regret twice after getting Poco F1 (I bought two units. One in October, 2018 and one 1n May, 2019). LCD panel was of poor quality, touch sensitivity was a complete mess, thermal throttling was crazily aggressive, animation was crappy. I suffered to such an extend that I am scared to buy a Xiaomi device again. Currently using Realme X and apart from Color OS, I don't have any other issue.
Planning to buy Poco X2 as secondaty phone. I'm using Asus ROG Phone 2 as my primary phone. Will it be good for using, how is the performance and speed?
Well Poco F1 was a flagship killer, but X2 is definitely not. Their launch event shows Poco wants market share from Realme and the comparison between X2 v X2 was so prominent throughout the launch event of Poco X2.
If Gaming is priority - SD845 is still better
If Camera is priority - You can opt for X2 as it's better. Quad cam + Sony IMX686 sensor works better than that of Poco F1.
upgrading -screen n camera
downgrading -SoC

Mi Note 10 - Is it still worth buying now?

Hi guys,
Just checking with you, is this still worth it to buy as of April 2020?
Mi 10 has been released here but the pricing is too much 2599 AED which is almost near the Samsung flagships and iPhone 11. iPhone SE 2020 has been released as well with identical pricing to mi note 10 pro
What bothers me is the software update which is the usual complaints about Xiaomi phones. I don't think there's an official Android 10 now.
Please let me know of your thoughts and advise if I should buy this or not, or if you have other recommendations, it is welcome too.
Thanks guys.
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
REDOTHELLO said:
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
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is there anything you can suggest for the same price point?
Thanks for your reply. Mi 10 is released here but the pricing is too high
It still offers the best allround camera performance at the pricepoint it has now, which for me is the most important aspect.
But it is very slow at getting android 10, xiaomi in general is slow at updating to new android versions.
I would still buy it again, or wait for a global redmi k30 pro.
Mi 10/pro is just way too expensive.
OC-Freak said:
It still offers the best allround camera performance at the pricepoint it has now, which for me is the most important aspect.
But it is very slow at getting android 10, xiaomi in general is slow at updating to new android versions.
I would still buy it again, or wait for a global redmi k30 pro.
Mi 10/pro is just way too expensive.
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thank you. now I am deciding for mi note 10, real me x2 pro and Samsung note 10 (not the plus).
Still unsure but more on mi note 10 and x2 pro
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
sanoayyk said:
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
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I read today that that Stable Android 10 for CC9 Pro (Chinese Mi Note 10) was just released (V11.1.1.0.QFDCNXM). I think only a few days, then there will be a global stable...
This is the best for my budget but I am thinking due to the software updates. Realme got his own UI now. modified color OS so I am thinking this mi note 10 or the realme x2 pro
sanoayyk said:
Mi Note 10 is still worth for its main camera and 5x optical zoom. These two have OIS!
It is almost the cheapest phone with such camera, and the best thing is Unlockable Bootloader. Huawei and Oppo currently don't offer bootloader unlocking
Bad thing with Mi Note 10 is, the poor firmware development. No official Android10 yet, right?
Anyway Xiaomi lists it in MIUI12 update list so there should be soon.
Whatsmore, we are lacking kernel source or device tree to make custom roms or kernel.
Yesterday, Mi 10 Youth Edition (Mi 10 Lite Zoom Edition) with OIS 5x zoom camera was announced.
If Mi 10 Youth Edition get better firmware development, it will be a better choice than Mi Note 10.
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5x might be too much, I usually use less than it, like there should be step between
the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
engineer000 said:
the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
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The CPU is not an issue at all for my purposes. It's a gaming chip, so even if you play games it should be fine for most titles.
The software is another matter. I actually like MIUI, it's very iOS-like. It's the first Android I use with the stock launcher. But Xiaomi really sucks with the updates. They need to support their products better.
As pinni83 posted earlier, it looks like Android 10 is coming to us soon:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Stabl...fers-hope-for-Mi-Note-10-owners.463021.0.html
Just in time for the official release of Android 11 by Google.....
MacGuy2006 said:
The CPU is not an issue at all for my purposes. It's a gaming chip, so even if you play games it should be fine for most titles.
The software is another matter. I actually like MIUI, it's very iOS-like. It's the first Android I use with the stock launcher. But Xiaomi really sucks with the updates. They need to support their products better.
As pinni83 posted earlier, it looks like Android 10 is coming to us soon:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Stabl...fers-hope-for-Mi-Note-10-owners.463021.0.html
Just in time for the official release of Android 11 by Google.....
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So it will be long waiting for the Android 11, yeah? I think I'm gonna go with realme. They are pushing their new UI that looks like color OS with Android 10 already so android 11 can be delivered earlier than xiaomi delivers in Mi note 10
Well, I did bought the MI note 10, and returned it... Decided to buy the realme x2 pro. Honestly, the cameras of the x2 pro are good enough, but the most impressive it's the difference of speed! 500€ for a phone with the snapdragon 730G it's just nonsense. Palm rejection is awful if you plan to play cod os fortnite, at least in my experience. FP super slow compared to the x2, even though the one in the X2 it's from the first generation of on-screen FP, but it's way more accurate then the one in the note 10. The MI note 10 it's a beautiful phone, screams premium, but compared to the X2 pro, for me, it does not stand a chance. We are all here because we like to experiment with our phones, searching for the best speed/functionality, or just to play around. In the X2 pro xda section, there is not alot of custom rooms, but in the last two weeks 3 new custom fw just appeared, so I think it will be a better phone to customize. I'm a Xiaomi fan, but for now, realme is going very strong and very cheap compared to others with inferior hardware.
luisarriaga said:
Well, I did bought the MI note 10, and returned it... Decided to buy the realme x2 pro. Honestly, the cameras of the x2 pro are good enough, but the most impressive it's the difference of speed! 500€ for a phone with the snapdragon 730G it's just nonsense. Palm rejection is awful if you plan to play cod os fortnite, at least in my experience. FP super slow compared to the x2, even though the one in the X2 it's from the first generation of on-screen FP, but it's way more accurate then the one in the note 10. The MI note 10 it's a beautiful phone, screams premium, but compared to the X2 pro, for me, it does not stand a chance. We are all here because we like to experiment with our phones, searching for the best speed/functionality, or just to play around. In the X2 pro xda section, there is not alot of custom rooms, but in the last two weeks 3 new custom fw just appeared, so I think it will be a better phone to customize. I'm a Xiaomi fan, but for now, realme is going very strong and very cheap compared to others with inferior hardware.
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Thanks for your feedback. I'm checking where I can buy realme with local warranty here in UAE and will decide based on that. oneplus 8 here is a Chinese version flashed with oxygen OS so I doubt about 5G. I can buy realme here but it is import from India. I will check and let you know
ond96 said:
5x might be too much, I usually use less than it, like there should be step between
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There are 500 steps between from 1 to 50X (not really usable) in 0,1 steps. Best results are up to 5x, but good results also to 10 and 15 times. Look here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzQBUmv0N-fBJfbLPyFKIMJS4D2qD2I6/view?usp=sharing
engineer000 said:
the software and the CPU is the one that worries me here.
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My last Xiaomi, Mi Mix 3 with Snapdragon 845, was not really faster, in some cases Note 10 is a little bit slower, but in most, especially networking, it´s much faster and smoother. But i´m not a gamer, for my usage the Note 10/ Pro is fast enough for all apps. In next month we will get Android 10/ MiUI 12, this will also be a big step forward.
Neo XL said:
There are 500 steps between from 1 to 50X (not really usable) in 0,1 steps. Best results are up to 5x, but good results also to 10 and 15 times. Look here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BzQBUmv0N-fBJfbLPyFKIMJS4D2qD2I6/view?usp=sharing
My last Xiaomi, Mi Mix 3 with Snapdragon 845, was not really faster, in some cases Note 10 is a little bit slower, but in most, especially networking, it´s much faster and smoother. But i´m not a gamer, for my usage the Note 10/ Pro is fast enough for all apps. In next month we will get Android 10/ MiUI 12, this will also be a big step forward.
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Thanks. I am thinking about this too. MIUI 12 previews in youtube are very cool with the features I am missing in my former MIUI devices.
REDOTHELLO said:
I advise you not to buy mi note 10 great phone but not support from xiaomi
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Why do you say the phone is not supported by Xiaomi? MIUI 12 will be released for the Mi Note 10 sometime in June.
I was about to purchase the Mi9T and was bothered by the camera.
The Mi Note 10 seem to be the best for me.
I still did not purchase it. why?
The main difference from the 9T is the camera, and if that amazing camera lacks performance I'm not sure it worth that difference in price...
would appreciate your suggestions.
I currently have the Mi 9 SE. For me personally the performance is fine (snapdragon 712), battery is fine too (3070mah), camera is great but only with gcam (currently gcam mods have problems support all lenses) also very easy to debloat. I do mostly two things on my phone; browsing and tinkering with the camera. So naturally Mi 10 Note is perfect. I just worry about the size and weight. Is it easy to get use to it?
I'm mostly worried that adding 100$+ for the cameras (comparing to 9T) simply doesn't worth it.
The Note 10 has the exact same specifications in terms for cpu and graphics with the 9T.
The main difference are the cameras.
If the 730 does not stand up with the required performance for such great lens power, there's no use to it.
So here I am puzzled between 9T and Note 10...

Question Closest device for CustomROM devs (SnapD. 860, Adreno 640, UFS 3.1, IMX582, etc.)

I have no experience what is important regarding device tree and development. From first guess Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC should be the closest and after 6 months already has a lot of ROMs (52 threads).
The devices beside the case and probably screen and battery differ a lot (X3 NFC vs X3 Pro):
SnapD. 732G vs 860, Adreno 618 vs 640, UFS 2.1 vs 3.1
Main Cam Exmor RS IMX682 vs IMX582, Selfie Unknown CMOS vs S5K3T2
So I wonder if the X3 NFC ROM development is of any additional use for the X3 Pro?
ChriMo said:
I have no experience what is important regarding device tree and development. From first guess Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC should be the closest and after 6 months already has a lot of ROMs (52 threads).
The devices beside the case and probably screen and battery differ a lot (X3 NFC vs X3 Pro):
SnapD. 732G vs 860, Adreno 618 vs 640, UFS 2.1 vs 3.1
Main Cam Exmor RS IMX682 vs IMX582, Selfie Unknown CMOS vs S5K3T2
So I wonder if the X3 NFC ROM development is of any additional use for the X3 Pro?
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No, Qualcomm 8XX uses a different development platform than 7XX
The good thing is that my new script that I developed on the Poco X3 NFC should also work well on the new X3 Pro. It allows to remove the read-only lock so you can fully debloat and customize your device. I wonder if any X3 Pro users have tried it yet?
I mean, the phone is cheap, and poco does have generally good rom support. We just have to wait for TWRP
Ad3s12 said:
I mean, the phone is cheap, and poco does have generally good rom support. We just have to wait for TWRP
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I concur... I'm just waiting on LineageOS support after a compatible version of TWRP becomes available
Well, It should has a lot of roms for 2 reasons :
- first mid-range device with flagship cpu & gpu
- lower cost
so why not ? it's good spot for developers
Abdullah.Csit said:
Well, It should has a lot of roms for 2 reasons :
- first mid-range device with flagship cpu & gpu
- lower cost
so why not ? it's good spot for developers
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I agree, but most people bought Poco X3 NFC and it created more hype than Poco X3 Pro imo, so I think that It will have good development, but not as Poco X3. Poco X3 is currently the best Xiaomi device regarding ROM development activity imo.
But If I haven't bought Poco X3 NFC, I would buy the Pro version for sure.
ChriMo said:
I have no experience what is important regarding device tree and development. From first guess Xiaomi Poco X3 NFC should be the closest and after 6 months already has a lot of ROMs (52 threads).
The devices beside the case and probably screen and battery differ a lot (X3 NFC vs X3 Pro):
SnapD. 732G vs 860, Adreno 618 vs 640, UFS 2.1 vs 3.1
Main Cam Exmor RS IMX682 vs IMX582, Selfie Unknown CMOS vs S5K3T2
So I wonder if the X3 NFC ROM development is of any additional use for the X3 Pro?
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They just buildbot and most of them get rejected from official. What matters is less quantity and better quality.
In the Telegram Poco X3 Pro Updates group I saw a Pixel 5 Port done, so this seems to be the first Custom ROM at least what I saw.
ChriMo said:
In the Telegram Poco X3 Pro Updates group I saw a Pixel 5 Port done, so this seems to be the first Custom ROM at least what I saw.
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nice

Xiaomi Pocophone F1 vs Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro

Hey, I have both phones to use(I can install custom firmware as well), I wonder which one would be better.
My thoughts so far:
The redmi note 9 pro is slightly too big for me, has better camera than the F1, slightly weaker than the F1, but honestly I don't really do any intense gaming so not sure how much difference that would make.
Battery life depends on the ROM I guess, so not sure.
Can someone help me understand which one would be better for me?
Thanks!
Try and error.
One phone for main use, the other for backup.

Question Changing from samsung s20 to poco x3 pro

Hello! So recently my samsung s20 got that infamous green screen issue it comes and go now and then and been looking out for something with good game performance that I can actually run genshin impact and the only thing I can afford is the poco x3 pro so here I am asking if ist worth it to change from s20 to x3 pro and if I should stick to miui or go custom rol and kernel and how hard ist
The phone is great however some people say that it's hardbricking due to HW (PMIC) issue.
MIUI for me is super buggy...
So I would recommend a custom ROM.
It's super easy to do but you need to wait 168h to unlock bl.
But if your phone hardbricks then probably no warranty.
RmiliR said:
Hello! So recently my samsung s20 got that infamous green screen issue it comes and go now and then and been looking out for something with good game performance that I can actually run genshin impact and the only thing I can afford is the poco x3 pro so here I am asking if ist worth it to change from s20 to x3 pro and if I should stick to miui or go custom rol and kernel and how hard ist
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go for x4 gt
Only 8 gb of ram is going to hurt.
Consider a used N10+, very capable, extremely reliable with one of best AMOLED displays there is.
RmiliR said:
Hello! So recently my samsung s20 got that infamous green screen issue it comes and go now and then and been looking out for something with good game performance that I can actually run genshin impact and the only thing I can afford is the poco x3 pro so here I am asking if ist worth it to change from s20 to x3 pro and if I should stick to miui or go custom rol and kernel and how hard ist
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Well the x4 gt is way better than the x3 pro for gaming
hikigayaaaa said:
go for x4 gt
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Games are not that optimized for mediatek chips
That's a very bad decision you made there, buddy
RmiliR said:
Hello! So recently my samsung s20 got that infamous green screen issue it comes and go now and then and been looking out for something with good game performance that I can actually run genshin impact and the only thing I can afford is the poco x3 pro so here I am asking if ist worth it to change from s20 to x3 pro and if I should stick to miui or go custom rol and kernel and how hard ist
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You're better off getting your screen replaced than to switch to X3 Pro tbh.

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