It seems Samsung is forcing updates no matter what's turned off in the phone. I have them turned off under developer options, but it's still downloading and installing updates - and with every "system" or "security" updates, it installs other garbage. Apparently I needed "Samsung Visit In". And it keeps giving its stupid apps permissions to cameras/microphone/modify system settings/etc. Really frustrating.
Is there a way to disable that completely? Does anyone know of a package name that I could uninstall via ADB that stops it from downloading patches automatically - hopefully without bricking the whole thing? Or do I have to root it and install something else completely?
I've tried searching here, googling everywhere, and it seems there's nothing...Not sure if Verizon took a few options off - as some of the menus screenshots look different for some people online.
Thanks!
Try
Post in thread 'Disable system update?' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/disable-system-update.4223781/post-84367233
Or use AdbApp Control. One click its disabled
raul6 said:
Try
Post in thread 'Disable system update?' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/disable-system-update.4223781/post-84367233
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Thanks! That was one I haven't ran across yet. 2 of those (systemupdate and updatecenter) are on the do not remove lists on google docs; so had I initially left them alone, but I removed them now, I guess what's the harm...
I could not find wssyncmldm; but while I was in ADB the update popped up again on the phone, clicked on 'learn more' and realized it's verizon that's pushing these updates, not Samsung... So then I went and disabled a lot of verizon/vzw stuff I found, hopefully I got it...
No wonder the old Nokias ran for weeks on a charge, they didn't have all this garbage in the background... lol.
Thanks for the help!
Update, after disabling those the system updates still showed up. I downloaded a package inspector, found it to be com.samsung.sdm. Googled that, people mentioned com.samsung.sdm and com.samsung.sdm.sdmviewer to be the culprits. With the update screen up I disabled com.samsung.sdm and it went away. Disabled sdmviewer too just to be safe, but so far looking good for now.
Their garbage reinstalled samsung pay and all of the other bloatware that I had removed when I got the phone... so frustrating!
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Learn from my Fail.
I was cleaning out some bloat yesterday by freezing a bunch of stuff I didn't need or want. After a reboot, I noticed that NFC Service was still running, even though it was frozen. I came to the obvious conclusion that it would be best to just uninstall it, nothing near me uses NFC anyways...
This was a mistake.
My Market started acting flaky... I could run it, and browse apps, and I could even update apps and install things I pushed through the web market, but as soon as I tried to view details about an app, Market would force close on me.
I tried all the obvious things like wiping Market data and cache, to no avail. Started poking through logCat and noticed that something was trying to talk to NFC Service around when I try to view an app. I restored NFC Service from titanium backup, rebooted, and the market works as expected again.
TL;DR: Do not uninstall NFC Service, otherwise your Market will force close when you try to view an app's details.
Hope this helps someone!
m.
what does it need nfc for?
jessejames111981 said:
what does it need nfc for?
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Good question, I have no idea... just reporting my findings. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can shed some light?
m.
I did the exact same thing for the exact same reason, but I only had issues when I used Google Play Store, when I did uninstall updates it worked fine. Unfortunately, it would always update itself, so I ended up flashing a custom ROM. Wonder why you can't freeze it or force close it?? Why is NFC always running?
Hi,
I have two Nexus 5 phones in my possession, both currently on 4.4.2 (Cataclysm and AOKP). I've recently noticed that the N5 running 4.4.2 Cataclysm has been using an immense amount of background data for 'Google Services' and did some digging to find out what it was. Turns out the phone is constantly re-downloading an OTA update, failing to flash it, then re-downloading it again, and so on.
There's a few attached images that are related - the file it's downloading, and the data used so far.
I found a couple of supposed solutions on various XDA threads and disabled the update service at startup, as well as installing FOTAKill.apk to system, but somehow it's still downloading and it's wearing me down as I can't figure out how to stop it. I understand an update to 4.4.4 would fix it, but i'd rather not as the person currently using the phone isn't all that keen on me taking time to flash & restore backups etc.
Are there any fixes for this that can be done by removing/disabling system services or the like? If it comes to it, I may just be able to block access to that particular ZIP in pfSense/SquidGuard.
Cheers.
ItsEmber said:
Hi,
I have two Nexus 5 phones in my possession, both currently on 4.4.2 (Cataclysm and AOKP). I've recently noticed that the N5 running 4.4.2 Cataclysm has been using an immense amount of background data for 'Google Services' and did some digging to find out what it was. Turns out the phone is constantly re-downloading an OTA update, failing to flash it, then re-downloading it again, and so on.
There's a few attached images that are related - the file it's downloading, and the data used so far.
I found a couple of supposed solutions on various XDA threads and disabled the update service at startup, as well as installing FOTAKill.apk to system, but somehow it's still downloading and it's wearing me down as I can't figure out how to stop it. I understand an update to 4.4.4 would fix it, but i'd rather not as the person currently using the phone isn't all that keen on me taking time to flash & restore backups etc.
Are there any fixes for this that can be done by removing/disabling system services or the like? If it comes to it, I may just be able to block access to that particular ZIP in pfSense/SquidGuard.
Cheers.
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Download this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.disableservice
Disable SystemUpdateService in Google Play Services + Google Services Framework.
The app itself doesn't store any data so you can uninstall it afterwards.
Or;
Open /system/build.prop, change
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/hammerhead/hammerhead:4.4.2/KOT49H/937116:user/release-keys
to
Code:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/hammerhead/hammerhead:4.4.4/KTU84P/1227136:user/release-keys
I believe you can long press on the notification and just untick show notification.
nitramus said:
I believe you can long press on the notification and just untick show notification.
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Doesn't stop it from downloading the OTA again and again. That'll just hide all notifications from Android System, and you might miss something else.
If people don't want to be bothered by important security updates and other goodies, why should we care? I fully updated my manta last night (factory image, latest twrp, omni, restore stuff) in 30min. In my opinion, you're just being lazy with both devices.
beekay201 said:
If people don't want to be bothered by important security updates and other goodies, why should we care? I fully updated my manta last night (factory image, latest twrp, omni, restore stuff) in 30min. In my opinion, you're just being lazy with both devices.
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The ROM used is an outdated rom, Cataclysm(4.4.2), which is based on stock.
It's their preference for what they want to use.
Hi. Thought I could get a little help with something. I got my 1+8pro and I rooted it with Magisk only. It was a little tedious but my root check app says it is rooted. I had trouble with my bank apps. One was so stingy that I had to redo the root using a different app name instead of Magisk. Finally got that working. Then I started getting notifications for a system update. Well, in order to update I had to wait until that version was posted on 1+ website so I could download it and patch it in. I finally did that and eventually got everything back up and running with the update. It was tedious and the phone is finally working again, just like I want it to.
About another week later it began nagging me again to do yet another update and I did not want to go through all that all over again. I went into the settings for that system app to disable the notifications but the switch was greyed out, locked in the on position. I live by important notifications and having that up in my notification area constantly is distracting. So I contacted support and asked how to disable the system updates or the notification. They told me to do what I already tried and I had to send them a screenshot showing that it was greyed out. Then they were trying to talk me into resetting my phone which is scary considering it took me many weeks to set everything all up.
So I said "uncle" and ended up going through the update baloney all over again and getting it rooted like before. Tedious. I checked after doing so and the notification setting switch was still greyed out. So, now it started nagging me to update again only this time wants me to go to OS11 which I am certainly not even ready to try as it is still in its infancy and not interested in taking a chance that something stops working properly on the phone.
I have a root uninstaller app on the phone that disables apps, but it is so old that it is no longer supported and apparently doesn't work with this newer Android version like it did on my old phone. It just brought the app over when I transferred everything from the old phone to this new one. It has app disabling features that apparently do not work for this version of Android. So I cannot use it to disable the System Update app. Now, I can probably install the Pro version of Titanium Backup which has an app freeze feature but not sure if it will work after paying for it. So before I do such a thing I wanted to see if there are any other options to maybe get this switch un-greyed so I can block these notifications. I know also that I can clear the cache and data for the app and it stops for a few days, but then I have to keep doing that once or twice a week and that is just a pitb to keep doing. Besides, 1+ said that it shouldn't be greyed out.
Anybody got any ideas for me to try without jeopardizing having to lose it all and start over? If I knew what I was getting into with Magisk, I would have installed TWRP first so I could have backup images to roll back to. But that is an afterthought now. I don't think Titanium Backup can create an actual flash image of the phone like TWRP. Maybe I should start over and just do it right with TWRP, then Magisk in the first place. But I want to leave that as a last resort.
Ideas, thoughts?
Thanks if you can.
Sorry for potentially asking a dumb question, but im at my wits end here.
Is there any way to completely disable OTA updates, with the stock ROM on the Pixel 4a?
Asking because i have turned automatic updates off in settings and it STILL checks and STILL force updates the phone after a week or so. This is extremely frustrating as i have very specific versions of certain apps installed, eg Google Keyboard, Vanced YouTube, Pre stories Twitter etc. They are all configured exactly how i want and when it updates it installs the latest versions and consequently ****s all the settings up at the same time. This means i have to spend a few hours uninstallling, reinstalling and re configuring the whole ****ing phone again.
So yeah, is there a way? I am rooted with magisk if thats of any benefit. Ill do anything, even if it fundamentally breaks google play store/services and requires ghetto apps like LP/Autostarts etc. I just want my device how I want, not what some trillion dollar company wants.
My last device was a Mi A2 Lite and it behaved itself perfectly before i destroyed the screen. Starting to regret this upgrade.
When you say "I have turned automatic updates off", did you do this in the play store app? If so, good.
But, you can also try these extra steps:
1) Turn on "Developer Mode" on your phone (do search for how to do this). Then go into developer options and turn off "Automatic System Updates".
2) Then do the changes I did in this post:
How do I stop update notices?
I'm rooted with Android 10 on my pixel4a. I don't want to upgrade to 11 just yet, but I keep getting the annoying update notices. Is there an app or module I can freeze with titanium to turn off the notices?
forum.xda-developers.com
Since doing these, I have not seen an "Upgrade to Android 11" (I'm on A10) message and I have not noticed any apps being forced updated.
yeah google play updates are disabled. which is interesting because after the phone updates, it re enables them, as well as a bunch of other permissions in settings!
and yeah ive disabled auto system updates in developer options, which is what im pissed about because it still updated the phone without my permission whilst i was asleep last night.
ill try and force freeze those components you listed, see if that kills it.
i might have a poke around the autostarts app later and see if i can do something there, thats if it even works with android 11.
the last time i had to do this was on my nexus 7 running kitkat lol
I've been getting a toast message stating all apps associated with hotspot feature have been blocked, turned off, or are not installed. This started after the most recent update.
Prior to the update, hotspot worked and I've never used a third party app to turn it on. I simply went into the settings and enabled it.
How can I see a full list of services/apps I may have disabled? I also have a VPN running.
Or is there a logcat app I can use to see what's happening? Not rooted here.
On a Samsung S20 5G and not all owners are seeing this issue. So maybe it's a user error.
Thanks for the help.
Depends how you disabled them.
It's easy if you used a package disabler.
I guess adb would work but no clue how to view that. Keep a log of what you disable with adb...
Usually takes a factory reset or two to get things right
@Pinalp84
to list all disabled apps you run
Code:
adb devices
adb shell pm list packages -d
It's not rooted. If I did disable them, I'm sure it wasn't through adb. So most likely through whatever method available via only the phone.
Okay, enabled all packages. Restarted. Still the same issue. So sick of Samsung.
Pinalp84 said:
Okay, enabled all packages. Restarted. Still the same issue. So sick of Samsung.
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You need to optimize it.
If you did any major firmware updates and didn't do a factory reset, do so now.
If you used SmartSwitch to transfer settings from another OS or device, factory reset.
Clear system cache, system logs and apk caches (data as needed); this is routine maintenance and generally all that's needed once optimized.
Do not use 3rd party launchers or power management especially 3rd party power management apps. Find the what's causing the issues and deal with those apks/services directly. Each user and configuration is unique and so are the solutions.
It's a fast, very stable, strong running device once optimized... play with it.
Never used SmartSwitch. Just did a factory reset. Still the same issue...
Pinalp84 said:
Never used SmartSwitch. Just did a factory reset. Still the same issue...
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Try in safe mode. In settings do a "tethering" search. Double check all settings...
If it's through a carrier... renew the pass code.
SmartSwitch may be ok if same device and OS... just make sure it's not your primary backup.
My theme, icons, homescreen are pretty elaborate so next reload I'll test it for just that.
If it pukes I'll just factory reset again, no big deal.
blackhawk said:
Try in safe mode. In settings do a "tethering" search. Double check all settings...
If it's through a carrier... renew the pass code.
SmartSwitch may be ok if same device and OS... just make sure it's not your primary backup.
My theme, icons, homescreen are pretty elaborate so next reload I'll test it for just that.
If it pukes I'll just factory reset again, no big deal.
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Are you on a S20 5G?
Pinalp84 said:
Are you on a S20 5G?
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No.
Cross search devices/OS versions for solutions and workarounds. Most issues have been around for years...
Everytime you update you expose yourself to new and potentially unknown firmware malfunctions that many times vastly outweigh any benefits.
Google is not conservative but you can be...
There are no solutions for this issue as of now. I've seen a few people online with the same issue and none of them have found a solution even after calling Samsung support. This issue surfaced after the most recent android update.
Pinalp84 said:
There are no solutions for this issue as of now. I've seen a few people online with the same issue and none of them have found a solution even after calling Samsung support. This issue surfaced after the most recent android update.
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Samsung tech support is next to useless.
The US tech side is better, SK and Philippines are worthless.
Check -all- related settings and permissions.
The update may have toggled a critical buried setting. It wouldn't be the first time
Many times you need to track the issue down yourself. Try different search words and look at all similar issues regardless of the OS version and device.
What are you trying to tetheri to?