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Why or how is OnePlus making a better OS than Pixel ?

I don't mean to rag on the Pixel 3, I have the 3 XL and am pretty happy with it. But compared to my 2 XL, it's really not that much better. I was very happy with my Pixel 2 XL, and I'm so so on my Pixel 3 XL so far.
It's funny how OnePlus have taken the lead on better performing stock Android phones.
Clearly the 6T will be a smoother more fluid operating phone compared to the Pixel 3. Yet this is Google's thing, they created Android, they make vanilla Android. And they charge a much higher price for their Pixel vs a OnePlus, yet somehow OnePlus is besting them on developing a smoother better performing phone.
It's not rocket science what OPO is doing, Google can easily match and beat them in development of the Pixel OS, I just don't know why they aren't ?
Basically the OnePlus phones have taken over the old Nexus spot, and doing better at then Google did. And now Google can't even make their $900 flagship as smooth and fast as a $550 phone.
I'm thinking and hoping the Pixel 4 line will be a major jump for them. I think that will be the full HTC design team and also Android Q will be better and the Snapdragon 855 is supposed to be a major new processor. Plus all the criticism Google's getting on the Pixel 3, I expect next year's phones to be night and day better.

Yeah no. They arent. I have the OP6 and while it is really FAST it is not as smooth as the pixel xl 3 and nor will the 6T be smoother. I do think it will be faster! Not smoother through. There are still dropped frames on the OP6. Not many but there are more often the pixel devices

Don't the One+'s only have HD screens, delayed updates, and ****ty camera's? Last I heard, yes to all. Those three are HUGE dealbreakers for me. And also why they can charge less. I don't think One+ wins at all versus the Pixel 2's or 3's. If the Pixel's used cheaper panels and such, they would probably be a lot cheaper too. And I highly doubt they will out perform the 2's or 3's. In my experience, the only phone's that get any with these are the newer iPhone's.
Just my $0.02

Zorachus said:
I don't mean to rag on the Pixel 3, I have the 3 XL and am pretty happy with it. But compared to my 2 XL, it's really not that much better. I was very happy with my Pixel 2 XL, and I'm so so on my Pixel 3 XL so far.
It's funny how OnePlus have taken the lead on better performing stock Android phones.
Clearly the 6T will be a smoother more fluid operating phone compared to the Pixel 3. Yet this is Google's thing, they created Android, they make vanilla Android. And they charge a much higher price for their Pixel vs a OnePlus, yet somehow OnePlus is besting them on developing a smoother better performing phone.
It's not rocket science what OPO is doing, Google can easily match and beat them in development of the Pixel OS, I just don't know why they aren't ?
Basically the OnePlus phones have taken over the old Nexus spot, and doing better at then Google did. And now Google can't even make their $900 flagship as smooth and fast as a $550 phone.
I'm thinking and hoping the Pixel 4 line will be a major jump for them. I think that will be the full HTC design team and also Android Q will be better and the Snapdragon 855 is supposed to be a major new processor. Plus all the criticism Google's getting on the Pixel 3, I expect next year's phones to be night and day better.
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I agree with most of this, I'm buying the OnePlus 6T when it's available and it will become my daily. My Pixel 3 XL will be my backup just like I did with the OnePlus 5T and my Pixel 2 XL.
I'll take my Pixel when I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures but for the most part I'll be using the OnePlus.
When I had my Pixel 2 XL and bought the OnePlus 5T it was just way to easy to put the pixel on the back burner.

The 6 upped the camera game quite a bit, enough so that it will probably satisfy any person I know real life who doesn't see the camera as a primary use of the device. I also think update frequency as a feature is somewhat overrated in general but particularly when compared to someone like Oneplus who have been reasonably timely as of late. IMO a lot of the grief this phone gets in terms of the GUI cludge come from it's rather horrid gesture navigation, poor app switching, and drawer access, all of course related. It's been called out in a number of reviews for those things and I think it's fair comment. They gestures themselves are not ergonomic, lack cohesion, and fail to take advantage of the space lost to the nav area by not removing it all together. That's a lot of fail right where you can't miss it. I'm here but I wouldn't put down OnePlus, their stuff is pretty darn good, not just good for the price.

Google makes the OS and your saying OnePlus makes a better OS. That's silly.
They may tweak or add skins but they don't make crap. So, If you compare apples to apples for hardware and then evaluate stock Android vs OOS, l would be surprised if it were significantly faster.
Doesn't Google downclock the 845? Yes 2500mhz and OP 6 clocks at 2800. With only 3300 mAh battery, that may equal worse battery life, I dunno. But the P3 XL and OP6 are not equal hardware to evaluate the OS.
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Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.

krabman said:
Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
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That is EXACTLY what I did. I'm now really liking it now.

Agreed, starting to feel the love now.

krabman said:
Had time to root, installed my much loved action launcher, oneplus gestures, got rid of the nav bar, etc. Yeah, get rid of that idiotic nav setup and all of a sudden it's a new ballgame. MUCH better; was thinking of sending it back. Say what you want about Oneplus but Goog could learn a thing or two from them.
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i used the oneplus gestures on my 6 (just to get a feel, i enabled nav buttons then hid them and downloaded the op gestures)
the swipe area at the bottom of the screen is almost un-selectable, when my keyboard comes up i cant select anything where the swipe gesture recognises a swipe, does this happen on the Pixel? i thought maybe its just how its implemented on the oneplus 6

It's been fine, I just tried both keyboards without anyt problems. You do have a brief return window to play with if you want to verify it yourself. I ran into that on an AOSP ROM and never did find an answer.

I came from OP6 to P3XL
I miss some of the features of my OP6..
Like screenshot editing options in terms of cropping (not finding it on PX3L)
Using OnePlus Gestures app from playstore definitely makes things SO MUCH BETTER.
But i am noticing stuttering and such on P3XL , but then again with 8GB of ram on my OP6 i noticed stuttering and a lot of visual hiccups that literally should never happen.
What else? I'm not missing else much from the Op6....

I am also moving from the OnePlus6 to the Pixel 3 XL which should be in my hands on the 01/11 (for you americans thats 1st Nov lol) and the OnePlus gestures is the frst thing I will be putting on as well as hiding the nav bar to get the same sort of experience.
And to reiterate what others have said the UI on the OnePlus 6 is fast but definitely not that smooth, camera is now pretty poor too.

daleski75 said:
I am also moving from the OnePlus6 to the Pixel 3 XL which should be in my hands on the 01/11 (for you americans thats 1st Nov lol) and the OnePlus gestures is the frst thing I will be putting on as well as hiding the nav bar to get the same sort of experience.
And to reiterate what others have said the UI on the OnePlus 6 is fast but definitely not that smooth, camera is now pretty poor too.
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OP6 is clocked slightly more than 10% higher than P3, thus faster.
"Just like it did last year, Google has underclocked the CPU of the Snapdragon 845 chipset that powers the Pixel 3 phones. The big Kryo 385 Gold cores are at 2.5GHz (0.2GHz down) and the smaller Silver cores are at 1.6GHz (0.1GHz down). This is done to improve battery life and should only impact peak performance, no CPU today can hit its max clocks under a sustained workload." gsmarena
Little ones too...
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The feature i miss the most from OP6 is the app locker and the quick gestures that you use to draw while your screen is off. The applocker IMO is excellent since when you go into recents it will block the thumbnail for privacy before you put your PIN/fingerprint. Any of you found any 3rd party apps as good as these for the P3XL?

masri1987 said:
I came from OP6 to P3XL
I miss some of the features of my OP6..
Like screenshot editing options in terms of cropping (not finding it on PX3L)
Using OnePlus Gestures app from playstore definitely makes things SO MUCH BETTER.
But i am noticing stuttering and such on P3XL , but then again with 8GB of ram on my OP6 i noticed stuttering and a lot of visual hiccups that literally should never happen.
What else? I'm not missing else much from the Op6....
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Cropping is there, along with a plethora of other options. Just got to take time to learn how to use the editor
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Anyone switched from an S9?

Curious if anyone here switched over to the Pixel 3 from a Galaxy S9?
Would be interested in thoughts/comparisons if anyone has experience with both phones...
Thanks!

I was using an S9 previously.
I tried the 3 XL first as I also have a 2 XL, but the 3 XL was just too large and cumbersome, especially with a case on it. The regular Pixel 3 is a much more reasonable size so that's what I stuck with. I returned the 3 XL.
The P3 feels smaller in the hand than the S9. I didn't actually compare them side by side so it could just be my imagination, but the P3 feels very small. Great screen size though so no issues.
Despite it having an OLED screen, the P3's screen color is pretty weak so I used an app called Sa2ration to increase the P3's color saturation to match the S9 and P2XL. It requires root, just FYI. Looks great now! I'm very happy with my upgrade.

Came from an S9. Some issues that I had with the S9 are way too many settings and way too many apps. The extra apps included Samsung's redundant versions of just about everything. My experience is that Samsung likes to re-do everything their way, Bixby and all the rest are just redundant. And you can't uninstall that stuff, can't root the phone. Also, the Android security updates from Google are, in a word, irregular for the S9.
And to add insult to injury, to do something as simple as waking up the lock screen when you get a notification, you have to have an app to do that. Amongst the gazillion settings, they couldn't include that one *smile*.
The high points of the S9 are great screen and fast chip set. I find the Pixel 3 to actually be faster with the same chipset...most likely either placebo, or due to all the extra apps that Samsung gifts you with.
Anyways, I love the barebones Android on the Pixel 3, also a great screen, and a faster phone *smile*. I'm very happy with the Pixel, and much happier than I was with the S9. I have replaced the Pixel launcher with the Nova launcher, don't like the Google search widget and the time and temperature widget taking up so much space on my home screen, but with that change the Pixel is about perfect *smile*.

Yes I know a lot of people dont like the bloat of Samsung for good reasons.
How do they compare in terms of performance - battery? lagginess? I have heard that the S9 has done a great job minimizing some of the performance impact the bloatware used to have...I have had a number of Samsungs so I dont mind that much tinkering to get all the alerts set, disable the bloat, etc. as long as I get great performance to go with their beautiful hardware, so I am wondering how that aspect compares to the P3...

i switched from s9. Pixel 3 i awesome. no samsung crap apps on it and Bixby.. camera is better works well with google assistant. but.. s9 had much much better battery life and charging speed. i hope google will fix it soon

I'm finding the P3 to be slightly faster than the S9, but the S9 wasn't slow to begin with. I didn't have any issues with it.
My P3's battery life is about par with my S9.

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lirong said:
Curious if anyone here switched over to the Pixel 3 from a Galaxy S9?
Would be interested in thoughts/comparisons if anyone has experience with both phones...
Thanks!
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I switched from an S9+ actually. I like the smaller phone size anyways. I gave my brother my S9 and I went to the plus. Just got my Pixel 3 yesterday and i realize how much I've missed the smaller form factor. And the screen is great and the software is fast. And it's way simpler than Samsungs UI. I believe photos are very close to each other. I'm still learning the Pixel but I enjoy using it.

Question One 5.0 discussion

When do we get the one ui 5.0 for the s22 ultra snapdragon? Plus what are u guys expecting to get with it ? Personally i want more battery . Why can iphones get 10sot with 4300 mh and we get 4 to 5 sot with 5000 mh

We'll sometime this fall or early winter.
Iyad22 said:
When do we get the one ui 5.0 for the s22 ultra snapdragon?
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We'll get it sometime this fall or early winter.
Iyad22 said:
Plus what are u guys expecting to get with it ? Personally i want more battery . Why can iphones get 10sot with 4300 mh and we get 4 to 5 sot with 5000 mh
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Because you can actually do stuff with an S22 Ultra. iPhones are just expensive, overrated toys.

I am on the beta for both my S22 Ultra and my S22. So far I am liking it.Battery life is pretty good. Have only had my S22 Ultra since last Thursday but the first thing I did after set up was enroll it in the beta and when I did, it downloaded beta 2 since that is what had been released that day.
Both devices are T-Mobile Snapdragon 128GB models.

Recent iphones have good battery because they aggressively kill apps in the background. One difference is that they provide services for notification delivery through the OS so notifications still go through even if the app is hibernating.

gernerttl said:
We'll sometime this fall or early winter.
We'll get it sometime this fall or early winter.
Because you can actually do stuff with an S22 Ultra. iPhones are just expensive, overrated toys.
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True i agree i have a 13 pro max too and the first thing comes to my mind is how boring it is

truckerdewd said:
I am on the beta for both my S22 Ultra and my S22. So far I am liking it.Battery life is pretty good. Have only had my S22 Ultra since last Thursday but the first thing I did after set up was enroll it in the beta and when I did, it downloaded beta 2 since that is what had been released that day.
Both devices are T-Mobile Snapdragon 128GB models.
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I wont enroll in the beta im waiting for the official version. But glad to know they did some battery improvement

malimukk said:
Recent iphones have good battery because they aggressively kill apps in the background. One difference is that they provide services for notification delivery through the OS so notifications still go through even if the app is hibernating.
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I rather have good battery then anything else tho . I have to keep my s22 ultra in 60hz and sometimes even 720 to get throw my day . And the best feature they added is to pause charging while gaming that helped alot

Iyad22 said:
I rather have good battery then anything else tho . I have to keep my s22 ultra in 60hz and sometimes even 720 to get throw my day . And the best feature they added is to pause charging while gaming that helped alot
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If that is the case I suggest you to check which apps you are running, disable background services and put them all into deep sleep mode. That will help more than using a lower resolution and refresh rate.

Iyad22 said:
True i agree i have a 13 pro max too and the first thing comes to my mind is how boring it is
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I am using both phones. The 13 Pro max battery life compliments the refined apps and user experience albeit the complete absence of multitasking and versatility specially office work. What's the rationale behind using the most powerful SoC in the World? To drive what?!!
Samsung proved that they are capable of creating solid OS more stable than Google itself BUT lacks the quality of life enhancements available in the iphone such as keychain and the numerous privacy features, high quality optimized apps, etc.

malimukk said:
If that is the case I suggest you to check which apps you are running, disable background services and put them all into deep sleep mode. That will help more than using a lower resolution and refresh rate.
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I cant disable google services because then nothing else works like youtube and maps and stuff . Im planning to factory reset it now because i switched with smart switch from my s21 ultra which used to get 6 to 7 sot with 120hz and mostly 1440p

Tdroider said:
I am using both phones. The 13 Pro max battery life compliments the refined apps and user experience albeit the complete absence of multitasking and versatility specially office work. What's the rationale behind using the most powerful SoC in the World? To drive what?!!
Samsung proved that they are capable of creating solid OS more stable than Google itself BUT lacks the quality of life enhancements available in the iphone such as keychain and the numerous privacy features, high quality optimized apps, etc.
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There is only 2 things lacking samsung now .. battery and better optimization with apps . Thats it

Tdroider said:
I am using both phones. The 13 Pro max battery life compliments the refined apps and user experience albeit the complete absence of multitasking and versatility specially office work. What's the rationale behind using the most powerful SoC in the World? To drive what?!!
Samsung proved that they are capable of creating solid OS more stable than Google itself BUT lacks the quality of life enhancements available in the iphone such as keychain and the numerous privacy features, high quality optimized apps, etc.
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*yawn*
The iPhone is about as exciting as Jason Mamoa's TV show.

Question Anyone from S22U to P7Pro?

Got the S22U snapdragon since last March, while it has no problems it's a boring phone as I can't root it without tripping knox and the touch UI system is not as sleek as the Oneplus I used to have. The pixel 7 pro looks like a good alternative but:
-Battery charging time is way too slow no? I can recharge my S22U from 40% to 100% in 50ish minutes.Any way to make charging time closer to the S22U with the P7P?
-I saw mixed bags about pixel 7 pro battery vs the S22U , some reviews said it's (much) worse while others said it's a tad better lol, what's your end user experience ?
-I didn't root my phones for the last 2 years, how's magisk now? Can it bluff banking and mcdonalds apps?

vegetaleb said:
Got the S22U snapdragon since last March, while it has no problems it's a boring phone as I can't root it without tripping knox and the touch UI system is not as sleek as the Oneplus I used to have. The pixel 7 pro looks like a good alternative but:
-Battery charging time is way too slow no? I can recharge my S22U from 40% to 100% in 50ish minutes.Any way to make charging time closer to the S22U with the P7P?
-I saw mixed bags about pixel 7 pro battery vs the S22U , some reviews said it's (much) worse while others said it's a tad better lol, what's your end user experience ?
-I didn't root my phones for the last 2 years, how's magisk now? Can it bluff banking and mcdonalds apps?
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I just switched from s22U (non Snapdragon) to the Pixel 7 Pro
Battery is quite similar I would say.
Yes charging time is much longer that the S22U however, I am mostly charging at night.
I did not root the phone now, as there is no need for me to root is.
What I do appreciate is the UI of this phone

What's the speed of the device compared to the non snap s22u? I'm starting to get bored of mine and I despise Samsung's UI...
tschaad said:
I just switched from s22U (non Snapdragon) to the Pixel 7 Pro
Battery is quite similar I would say.
Yes charging time is much longer that the S22U however, I am mostly charging at night.
I did not root the phone now, as there is no need for me to root is.
What I do appreciate is the UI of this phone
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Hello. I changed my S22U for the Pixel 7 Pro and very happy.
The load is somewhat slower, but it is not much more noticeable either. The good thing is that from 0 to 80% it charges quite fast.
The Pixel seems more comfortable in hand by measures and weight.
The cameras are very good.
So I recommend the change.
Best regards.

I have both phones and I switch back and forth. Been using the 7 pro mostly for past month.

headcreepz said:
I have both phones and I switch back and forth. Been using the 7 pro mostly for past month.
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I'm the same as you, I used One for a couple of weeks than I started to missing the other one and switch it, both are great pixel p7 much easier to hold but the s22 u is great on watching videos or movies

I have both and find the S22 Ultra is better in most ways. The S22 Ultra has slightly better reception and data speeds, better screen, slightly better battery life, smoother scrolling in many apps, and more customization without the need for root. The Pixel 7 Pro takes more consistently great photos, has better speakers, and has a cleaner software experience but is otherwise a step behind. I'd wait for the S23 Ultra and see what the SD 8 Gen 2 can deliver with its rumored efficiency gains. Heck the OnePlus 11 might be a winner for those that want the greatest specs and root.

Be careful when considering to buy pixel 7 or pixel 7 pro.
There are incidences of the phone's camera glass shattering/broken no fault of the user.
Here is the link at google support
Google is not providing any warranty. You need to pay $200USD + to get it repaired by yourself.

LimitsX said:
Be careful when considering to buy pixel 7 or pixel 7 pro.
There are incidences of the phone's camera glass shattering/broken no fault of the user.
Here is the link at google support
Google is not providing any warranty. You need to pay $200USD + to get it repaired by yourself.
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Google specifies the operational range of the phone is only as low as 32F/0C which is why they can get away with this. These people were taking their phone into much lower temperatures.
Your phone is designed to work best in ambient temperatures between 32° and 95° F (0° and 35° C), and should be stored between ambient temperatures of -4° and 113° F (-20° and 45° C).
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You may notice that it can be stored lower but stored means not used. If usage of the phone heated it up while it was cold (some of these claims were in -20F for more than an hour), this is an unfortunate case of "that's your problem."
Just like people putting their phones in the back pocket and sitting on them, causing them to bend, if you abuse a device, it's going to break, and when it does, it's not the manufacturer at fault.

Switched today and immediately miss dual Facebook and dual messenger that was built into Samsung. Any workaround for it other than using different profiles ?

Thanks all
What about the screen size? Is it obvious the P7P screen is smaller or you get used to it in no time? Last time I had a 6.7" was the Oneplus 7 pro
As many said the S22U screen is very sweet for watching movies or editing photos but the squared corners are not easy on the palm of our hand

I've changed too, but I have to say, that the S22U is much better: brighter display, sharper display, better camera and zoom, battery last longer, quicker charging, better mobile reception. But sure: pure Android is much better than OneUI

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I've changed too, but I have to say, that the S22U is much better: brighter display, sharper display, better camera and zoom, battery last longer, quicker charging, better mobile reception. But sure: pure Android is much better than OneUI
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Yes if we are talking pure hardware the S22U is a bit better but the 5x zoom of the P7P looks as sharp and nice as the 10x of the S22U no? Talking here image quality not how far the zoom can reach.
And yes 2 things that annoy me with Samsung UI for years, most of all is that I have to double or even triple tap an icon or text to open an app or select a menu, why? Because with Samsung you can't do them unless the scrolling effect is 100% ! Even if it's stoll moving at 0.01mm it won't open an app/setting
The 2nd thing I hate with sammy is that statusbar text won't enlarge even though I change font size or display size

vegetaleb said:
Got the S22U snapdragon since last March, while it has no problems it's a boring phone as I can't root it without tripping knox and the touch UI system is not as sleek as the Oneplus I used to have. The pixel 7 pro looks like a good alternative but:
-Battery charging time is way too slow no? I can recharge my S22U from 40% to 100% in 50ish minutes.Any way to make charging time closer to the S22U with the P7P?
-I saw mixed bags about pixel 7 pro battery vs the S22U , some reviews said it's (much) worse while others said it's a tad better lol, what's your end user experience ?
-I didn't root my phones for the last 2 years, how's magisk now? Can it bluff banking and mcdonalds apps?
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Came from the S22U and I would say battery is almost identical, if not a tad better on the pixel. Charging time is slower, but as someone else said, I charge at night so I dont really care. It hasnt died on me before bed yet, and I would consider myself a power user. In fact, I go to bed with around 50% (that's with about 50 minutes of Android Auto use every day).
I thought about rooting the thing, but it's literally been since the nexus days since rooting a phone for me, so I dont know if I really want to take the chance at this point.
Samsung makes a killer phone, but there are so many gimicky features that I thought were cool, yet never even used. I like the simplicity of the pixel.

I can use banking and McDonalds apps on when I had a rooted S22 Ultra (Hong Kong model SM-S9080) with Magisk + Zygist setup. The big difference I noticed so far with the Pixel 7 Pro is there's not a lot of options for customization and some things are fixed in placed meaning you're stuck with it. For example, there's no quick toggle for the sound to go from mute, vibrate, and sound on.
Samsung thought of everything you could need and included it. Google tried to keep it simple but made it complicated by restricting the options and not giving you what you need. I just bought a Pixel 7 Pro to spoof Pokemon Go on Android 13 on a flagship phone with US bands. I feel like I want to return it because it's not what I'm used to because it's like going from a Ferrari down to a Toyota. I'm in process of rooting it but the guides are lacking information...

I'm torn between the s22u and the p7p. I think the AI and voice recognition is better with the pixel. I love the little things like now playing and how you can just say 'stop'to shut off an alarm. All the in call options are amazing (I talk on the phone a week tho so I don't really get to use many of those features, lol). And I love the minimal bloat. Battery life is much better on the pixel, primarily because of the difference in standby battery drain, but it's still better.
However Samsung has so many things the pixel just doesn't. It multitasks better, I love being able to connect to more than one Bluetooth device at the same time, it plays demanding games better, camera is better to me (quality and versatility), etc. It's a better workhorse.
I'll get the S23u next months then the fold 5 and then the pixel 8. Just a never ending cycle in my quest to find the perfect phone. And who knows, when you can download apps outside of the app store maybe I'll try and iPhone for the first time in 10 years.

What are the customisations you are missing on the Pixel 7 Pro that you had on the S22U ?
Like the missing shortcuts in the lockscreen ?
I think oneplus was the best combining stock Android but with many customisations

Customization options on Samsung devices, but not on Pixel devices:
-Navigation bar: ability to swap back and recent buttons, ability to choose between 2 forms of gesture navigation, ability to customize soft key design, and hide the gesture pill.
-Good Lock modules give incredible customization without root. You can change the placement of the status bar clock and other items. You can build your own themes with icon packs, you can directly modify the quick settings panel, notification style, app switcher styles, volume control panel, etc.
-Always on display can be fully customized and set on a schedule, off while you sleep.
-Using #Hex Installer themes, one can attain the vast majority of the Pixel UI look, or any other style one wants.
-Changing the system font is easy
All of these would require root on a Pixel and likely need to be modded again after major software updates.

Guyinlaca said:
Customization options on Samsung devices, but not on Pixel devices:
-Navigation bar: ability to swap back and recent buttons, ability to choose between 2 forms of gesture navigation, ability to customize soft key design, and hide the gesture pill.
-Good Lock modules give incredible customization without root. You can change the placement of the status bar clock and other items. You can build your own themes with icon packs, you can directly modify the quick settings panel, notification style, app switcher styles, volume control panel, etc.
-Always on display can be fully customized and set on a schedule, off while you sleep.
-Using #Hex Installer themes, one can attain the vast majority of the Pixel UI look, or any other style one wants.
-Changing the system font is easy
All of these would require root on a Pixel and likely need to be modded again after major software updates.
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We have PixelFlasher to make keeping mods and updating easy as could be but it definitely does sound appealing to not have to root to get all of that.

EtherealRemnant said:
We have PixelFlasher to make keeping mods and updating easy as could be but it definitely does sound appealing to not have to root to get all of that.
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Retaining root on the Pixel is easy, however Google periodically changes something in SystemUI, like in the move from 12 to 12L and 12L to 13, that would break a current mod and cause bootloops. For example, I used a mod that restored the old school round QuickSettings icons and 13 broke it.

Question Low Brightness

Hi I just received a Samsung s23 Plus, however the screen seems to be very dim when compared to my Xiaomi mi 11. I feel like I am downgrading. I might return the phone and wait for the xiaomi 13 or just get the pixel 7 pro.
What are your thoughts on this?
Thank you.

I was going to post a thread about my experience with the display going from s22+ to s23+ but will instead post here as it relates to yours.
I used the "Natural" display setting in my S22+ and was happy with it. I do the same on my S23+ and the screen looks dimmer duller and not the same. I like my S22+ screen better. I now have to use "Vivid" on my S23+ which I personally am loathe to as I feel it boosts colors too much.
Personally, my screen gets bright enough for me. But now it just seems duller on Natural mode imo.
I would have preferred they upgraded the screen to S23s Ultras tech.
You might want to fiddle with Display settings. Like eye comfort shield and display mode.

stardomains said:
I was going to post a thread about my experience with the display going from s22+ to s23+ but will instead post here as it relates to yours.
I used the "Natural" display setting in my S22+ and was happy with it. I do the same on my S23+ and the screen looks dimmer duller and not the same. I like my S22+ screen better. I now have to use "Vivid" on my S23+ which I personally am loathe to as I feel it boosts colors too much.
Personally, my screen gets bright enough for me. But now it just seems duller on Natural mode imo.
I would have preferred they upgraded the screen to S23s Ultras tech.
You might want to fiddle with Display settings. Like eye comfort shield and display mode.
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I have a xiaomi mi 11, which feels better than the s23 plus. Even miui feels better (we can uninstall most of the apps and install Google alternatives), s23 line-up doesn't support aptx hd and adaptive. I feel like the Samsung phones are sold as a service for you to buy even more Samsung products. Also, the xiaomi's are easy to unlock and relock the bootloader, more custom roms. Miui should only improve in the future. I'll return the s23 plus and get a redmi k series phone. Samsung left me disappointed, I was expecting higher quality, the vibration motor is weak (when compared to my mi 11),the screen does not support dolby vision. I don't know the fact that it does not support 10bit color is a deal breaker.
Also we cannot have vertical app drawer on the Samsung which is really stupid decision. I see many people postingon the forums beg Samsung to change some things (aptx adaptive support, lc3 codec, vertical app drawer) these posts are like 2-3 years old.

I'm definately keeping mine. All the other improvements are nice upgrades.
Maybe I'll try a glass screen protector instead of plastic. That might make a difference. Or maybe the screen needs some use to get to full potential. IDK. It was just subtle and small to my eyes. Overall I'm happy with mine as I was used to the S22+.
Do wish it had aptX HD and adaptive too though.

stardomains said:
I'm definately keeping mine. All the other improvements are nice upgrades.
Maybe I'll try a glass screen protector instead of plastic. That might make a difference. Or maybe the screen needs some use to get to full potential. IDK. It was just subtle and small to my eyes. Overall I'm happy with mine as I was used to the S22+.
Do wish it had aptX HD and adaptive too though.
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They had it on the s8 series, they removed it to force us to buy their expensive earbuds

vladcbnn said:
I have a xiaomi mi 11, which feels better than the s23 plus. Even miui feels better (we can uninstall most of the apps and install Google alternatives), s23 line-up doesn't support aptx hd and adaptive. I feel like the Samsung phones are sold as a service for you to buy even more Samsung products. Also, the xiaomi's are easy to unlock and relock the bootloader, more custom roms. Miui should only improve in the future. I'll return the s23 plus and get a redmi k series phone. Samsung left me disappointed, I was expecting higher quality, the vibration motor is weak (when compared to my mi 11),the screen does not support dolby vision. I don't know the fact that it does not support 10bit color is a deal breaker.
Also we cannot have vertical app drawer on the Samsung which is really stupid decision. I see many people postingon the forums beg Samsung to change some things (aptx adaptive support, lc3 codec, vertical app drawer) these posts are like 2-3 years old.
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Bro, i am using samsung a30s for about 2 years and i know many things about it. You can also use google alternatives by uninstalling updates and disable samsung apps you don't want.
By doing this, it will enable you to get higher performance,
I have used redmi series phones and it feels like miui have lack of customisation and that's why i prefer using samsung, it have fine lock and good lock for better performance by using galaxy app booster, memory booster and thermal gaurd or better quality and more customisation using number of apps.
I prefer using fine lock app because some apps maybe not available in good lock at your region, but fine use website to download apk of the apps.

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Bro, i am using samsung a30s for about 2 years and i know many things about it. You can also use google alternatives by uninstalling updates and disable samsung apps you don't want.
By doing this, it will enable you to get higher performance,
I have used redmi series phones and it feels like miui have lack of customisation and that's why i prefer using samsung, it have fine lock and good lock for better performance by using galaxy app booster, memory booster and thermal gaurd or better quality and more customisation using number of apps.
I prefer using fine lock app because some apps maybe not available in good lock at your region, but fine use website to download apk of the apps.
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I tired good lock to enable vertical scroll in the app drawer, but it seems unfinished, I think I'm an enthusiast, I like the option of being able to unlock my bootloader and install custom roms, even goole pay and bank apps are working. Xiaomi must have some tricks in their software

vladcbnn said:
I tired good lock to enable vertical scroll in the app drawer, but it seems unfinished, I think I'm an enthusiast, I like the option of being able to unlock my bootloader and install custom roms, even goole pay and bank apps are working. Xiaomi must have some tricks in their software
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Yeah, you are right everyone have choises