Worth update Fold to android 12L? - Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 Questions & Answers

Hello.
I am happy with Fold 2 from 1,5 year and still running with adnroid 11. Stable, battery firendly last version.
After that I consider update to android 12L but with experience a lot of years using samsung devices I feel that with newer version OS my devices usually running worse, more lags, worse photo quality (for example N5 and N9) - just aging feeling.
How is it in fold 2?
Anybody can confirm above my opnion or maybe is opposite?
I very like my F2, its too durability device (especially frame compare to frame S22 series) and want stay with him more time.

yes. that simple

loizos250 said:
yes. that simple
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Short answer but can you tell me about your experience for example photo quality, daily use performance and battery life etc compared to previous android version?

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Some Questions before buying

I’m currently using a Xs Max.I want to ask how is haptics compared to iPhone.I heard that they improved in Note 10+. Also how is gaming in exynos compared to snapdragon. I play Pes 2020 a lot can anyone confirm the performance on High graphics & 60 fps setting?Any other issue I should be aware of?
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I’m currently using a Xs Max.I want to ask how is haptics compared to iPhone.I heard that they improved in Note 10+. Also how is gaming in exynos compared to snapdragon. I play Pes 2020 a lot can anyone confirm the performance on High graphics & 60 fps setting?Any other issue I should be aware of?
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Take a look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAG1NE7JwKY
What’s your experience?How are the haptics?
I've just moved from iphone xs max to note 10 plus you will not regret it
You have the haptics menu but you can hardly feel the push
Android now is so liberating , the camera in my opinion runs rings around apple .. and the firmware is buttery smooth
I lost my faith my apple after iOS 13 and also the new mac operating system it's like apple have gone back 10 years
If you have your pictures on apple photo use Google own photos and it will if you add the software to your computer transfer them
Music whilst it wont sync with iTunes I just drag my music onto an USB c memory stick and shove it in the phone and copy it over
I've got a 512gb memory card and I have loads of music and pics on it
Go for it you wont regret it if it puts it in perspective I've been with apple since the iphone 4 and i don't regret the move one minute except iMessage but can live with that
mancuk29 said:
I lost my faith my apple after iOS 13 and also the new mac operating system it's like apple have gone back 10 years
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Hey just curious, but I'm really interested in why you think this?
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Hey just curious, but I'm really interested in why you think this?
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iOS 13 made even the newest iphone less buttery smooth regularly had app failures and lock ups
The new mac software Carolina is like a bad version of windows ME
If you want to be able to make changes to the home launcher / and calendars etc on your home screen then android is the way forward I've not looked back since making the move
you forgot to mention that XS MAX is in it's own league regarding battery life and dynamic range
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you forgot to mention that XS MAX is in it's own league regarding battery life and dynamic range
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I had the XS Max Pro and I get more battery life from my note 10 plus 5g
Apple to me is so behind the times they have only just put on their new phones ultra wide ...
It's down to individual choice but as a life long apple user I love android
i have both and i can guarantee you that in real-life usage Samsung is way behind, they dropped the ball this year with exynos, look at what Xperia 5 achieves with smaller batteries - best optimized phone of the year
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i have both and i can guarantee you that in real-life usage Samsung is way behind, they dropped the ball this year with exynos, look at what Xperia 5 achieves with smaller batteries - best optimized phone of the year
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Do you have exynos model?
yes it's a power-hog whereas my backup cheap Note 7 with 4000mah lasts the entire day with heavy usage
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I’m currently using a Xs Max.I want to ask how is haptics compared to iPhone.I heard that they improved in Note 10+. Also how is gaming in exynos compared to snapdragon. I play Pes 2020 a lot can anyone confirm the performance on High graphics & 60 fps setting?Any other issue I should be aware of?
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So i have used both Android and Apple and have switched in between. My last phone was iPhone 7 Plus and have been using it since 2016. I switched to the Note 10 Plus last month after waiting to see what the new iPhone would bring. The camera layout is horrible and ios13 has had no major update apart from Dark Mode. I also had been looking up reviews and opinions for S10+ and Note10+ and eventually went for the Note due to larger battery, faster charging and that gorgeous display. My last android was the Note 4 and even that was way ahead of iPhone 7 Plus, it had a freaking QHD Amoled screen! Go for the Note 10+ you will not regret it. I have the Exynos variant and performance is smooth, games dont lag. Battery life could have been a BIT better, however it is still very good and should last you a day (morning to night) and the 25W charger helps you top up your battery during the day if needed really fast, but you won't need to. I am probably never going back to Apple again after experiencing the Note10+.

Is the Galaxy S10e Exynos version battery THAT bad?

I'm between buying the Samsung Galaxy S10e and Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro. Their prices in my country are 400€/330€ respectively.
The things I mostly care about in order: Display/Battery/Camera.
I don't care about games much, I use the phone for media consumption/creation and for professional use (web dev).
The reason I haven't already pulled the trigger is because I don't like the 9T's size. It's too big for my liking and the S10e is just a tad bigger than my previous phone.
However, I've read some really bad stuff about the Exynos variant battery. Plus the camera differences are noticeable.
The extras like camera OIS, expandable storage, IP certifications are all nice but if the battery sucks then it's not worth it, especially at a higher price.
Can I expect at least 6,5hours SoT with medium use?
I think 5 to 5.5 hours is more realistic. You can squeeze out a bit more in power saving mode, but performance will be less. Small phones also have small batteries...
M1chiel said:
I think 5 to 5.5 hours is more realistic. You can squeeze out a bit more in power saving mode, but performance will be less. Small phones also have small batteries...
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I've read that the snapdragon version lasts for about 45 minutes longer than the exynos version which is my main concern. Would you recommend the 9T Pro in that case? As far as I can tell it has just as good cameras (as the exynos version at least), a much better battery life, a great display.. and it's cheaper. Having a bigger phone vs a mediocre battery life.
I guess you would have to be able to accept the Xiaomi software.
I avoid them because of that.
The S10e has a lot of good business grade stuff but a bigger battery would be nice. Mine was fine, had surprisingly good battery life even after updating into Android 10 but the latest security update seems to have damaged battery life, not sure why. I really hope they sort that out.....
So I can't advise you on your decision at this point, but the S10e is a nice phone with a lot of capability. Mine is a work phone.
I still enjoy my personal Axon 7 though, it's like a diamond in the rough. Hits the spot, although the OS is so much simpler.
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I guess you would have to be able to accept the Xiaomi software.
I avoid them because of that.
The S10e has a lot of good business grade stuff but a bigger battery would be nice. Mine was fine, had surprisingly good battery life even after updating into Android 10 but the latest security update seems to have damaged battery life, not sure why. I really hope they sort that out.....
So I can't advise you on your decision at this point, but the S10e is a nice phone with a lot of capability. Mine is a work phone.
I still enjoy my personal Axon 7 though, it's like a diamond in the rough. Hits the spot, although the OS is so much simpler.
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Thanks for your input. How much SoT would you say your S10e gives you currently?
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I'm between buying the Samsung Galaxy S10e and Xiaomi Mi 9T Pro. Their prices in my country are 400€/330€ respectively.
The things I mostly care about in order: Display/Battery/Camera.
I don't care about games much, I use the phone for media consumption/creation and for professional use (web dev).
The reason I haven't already pulled the trigger is because I don't like the 9T's size. It's too big for my liking and the S10e is just a tad bigger than my previous phone.
However, I've read some really bad stuff about the Exynos variant battery. Plus the camera differences are noticeable.
The extras like camera OIS, expandable storage, IP certifications are all nice but if the battery sucks then it's not worth it, especially at a higher price.
Can I expect at least 6,5hours SoT with medium use?
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Sold a 9T pro a couple of days ago... There some things that are very bad with that phone. The speaker is super bad quality. Very tinny compared to the s10 speakers. The screen is not on par. The build is OK. MIUI is not my kind of software, but there is Pixel experience... I think s10e is a better choice.
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Sold a 9T pro a couple of days ago... There some things that are very bad with that phone. The speaker is super bad quality. Very tinny compared to the s10 speakers. The screen is not on par. The build is OK. MIUI is not my kind of software, but there is Pixel experience... I think s10e is a better choice.
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Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it mate. I'm almost sold to the S10e. Will decide today. Thanks again.
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Thanks for your input. How much SoT would you say your S10e gives you currently?
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I really couldn't tell you. I just go by the ease of getting my day out of it and it used to do fine but just after the last update it nosedived and now I look at settings, uninstalls etc. Even went back to stock launcher in case that was the issue.
Next is backup, reset and set up again but really, I don't want to do that **** with a work phone.
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Thank you for your input. I really appreciate it mate. I'm almost sold to the S10e. Will decide today. Thanks again.
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I had both phones for a couple of days. Got the Mi 9T Pro to flash Pixel experience ROM and replace my S10e, but I couldn't do it. Xiaomi really cheaped out in some areas. The only thing better is the battery.
And I don't think the Exynos in S10 is bad. The single core performance is pretty good. The multi core is not bad. I personally am satisfied with the battery, for a compact phone.
I'm considering the Oneplus 7 pro. Just can't get past the huuuuge size.
With the latest update, my S10e with Exynos battery is pretty good. Only lost 2% overnight with Wifi on! OneUI 2.0 is one of the best Android Experience now, much better than buggy MIUI. Glad I switched from MI 9T.
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With the latest update, my S10e with Exynos battery is pretty good. Only lost 2% overnight with Wifi on! OneUI 2.0 is one of the best Android Experience now, much better than buggy MIUI. Glad I switched from MI 9T.
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What update, january or february?

Question [CLOSED] Does anyone else think THEIR S22 Ultra is a really bad phone?

I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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Battery life could be better, but if your UI is slow and stuttery it usually means some background task is running at high priority constantly. That would also explain your terrible battery life.
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Battery life could be better, but if your UI is slow and stuttery it usually means some background task is running at high priority constantly. That would also explain your terrible battery life.
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Oh trust me, I checked all of that, and set practically everything to not run in the background.
I've also had the S21U before and didn't have that issue (despite not even bothering to change the background allowances).
Something else that's really strange to me;
I bought a Tab S8 too. Same processor, same RAM as the Ultra, and I've had no issues with the UI. It's great. Completely fluid and smooth.
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I don't mean this to be as incendiary as the title might suggest, but I bought a S22U last week and was shocked by just how starkly different my experience with it was compared to all of the reviews.
Like the screen and camera are nice, sure, and it charges relatively fast...but the UI is slow and stuttery. Even when it's technically not stuttering, it still feels way more jerky and abrupt than phones like the Pixel, OnePlus, and the iPhone.
The battery life has also not been good at all. It's far worse than the S21U, and accubattery is saying I should only get 6.5 hours of SOT vs. the Pixel's 7 hours (for the Pro) and 7.5 hours (for the standard 6). If I recall, accubattery clocked the S21U at like 8 or 9 hours.
Has anyone else had a similar experience with this phone?
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Battery life is nothing to write home about...but for my uses it lasts me a the whole day not a problem...but not much more than that. As for the slowness, jerkiness and stuttering, I do not experience that and I have mine set to wqhd+ mode. Performance is one thing I have been very happy with (I have the 12GB/512GB version).
I think it's a masterful device. No issues at all on my end.
What an odd question? If it were a bad phone, how come you bought it?
Call the S22 Ultra bad, disappointing or whatever adjectives fit. Bottom line it has more reported defects than any Samsung device in many years. If you're happy good for you but as we can see many users aren't thrilled with the performance of this very expensive device. It is what it is.
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Call the S22 Ultra bad, disappointing or whatever adjectives fit. Bottom line it has more reported defects than any Samsung device in many years. If you're happy good for you but as we can see many users aren't thrilled with the performance this very expensive device. It is what it is.
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While I tend to agree, do you have any sources for that tidbit? So I can use it in the future
S21 Ultra has come a long way in terms of updates/bug fixes and I strongly feel S22 Ultra needs major updates to be on par with S21 Ultra as far as as UI/smoothness is concerned.
Unless both S21U and S22U are used side by side(with latest firmwares installed), probably one will not be able to feel the difference and might end up saying "no UI/lag issues with S22 Ultra".
As for batterylife, I did several tests using same mobile operators, on same location, over same Wi-Fi network - on similar settings+usage pattern(mostly) and the batterylife of S22 Ultra(Snapdragon) turned out to be way less than S21 Ultra(Exynos). Going further, I did factory reset both, waited for over a week to settle down and ended up having the same experience.
The overall experience with 22U isn't the best yet considering its potential and I hope to see a lot of these issues getting fixed through future updates.
I have had no issues with lag or stutter. I suspect that you may have a defective device perhaps?
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S21 Ultra has come a long way in terms of updates/bug fixes and I strongly feel S22 Ultra needs major updates to be on par with S21 Ultra as far as as UI/smoothness is concerned.
Unless both S21U and S22U are used side by side(with latest firmwares installed), probably one will not be able to feel the difference and might end up saying "no UI/lag issues with S22 Ultra".
As for batterylife, I did several tests using same mobile operators, on same location, over same Wi-Fi network - on similar settings+usage pattern(mostly) and the batterylife of S22 Ultra(Snapdragon) turned out to be way less than S21 Ultra(Exynos). Going further, I did factory reset both, waited for over a week to settle down and ended up having the same experience.
The overall experience with 22U isn't the best yet considering its potential and I hope to see a lot of these issues getting fixed through future updates.
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The s21u (Exynos) wasn't great when I first got it after release. It really improved with the big update it got last August which was supposed to be OneUI 3.1 but wasn't actually called that. I'm hoping the S22u gets a similar update this year. The April update improved the S22u (Exynos) for me but I think it still has a way to go before is can really be called "flagship".
S22 Ultra EXYNOS 512/12GB is the worst Samsung's flagship what I owned and I almost had all of them from S series before.
So poor UI and lagging performance I really starting to hate it. Battery performance I have to charge twice during working day! I'm not a mobile gamer at all. Hopefully Samsung will finally fix it with May update as already delayed as too many problems overall with crappy Exynos this year. On top of it 45W charging it is a joke
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..... On top of it 45W charging it is a joke
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100% agreed.
For better experience i suggest change animation length from x1 for 0,5 in developer option. I do it in every samsung device and i feel a lot of better running UI than before.
But i agree with above users that S22U still need updates for better running.
Comparing side by side my Fold 2 (yes android 11 is the best opton for fold, most stable and fast) to S22U.
Fold 2 with snapdragon 865+ is noticeably faster in opening for example default apps like phone dialer, messages, web browser etc and scrolling same webs fold 2 is smoother than S22U.
At this moment in my opinion S22U is only little better in day performance from Note 20U Exynos but skipping battery life which is a lot of better than Note.
But overall i like my S22U like previous Note series except Note 20 U
as _grizzly_ stated, ive not had animations turned on since they were first implemented back in gb days, not only does it save battery it makes the ui faster, we dont need it to look fancy switching between screens, we need it to do it quickly, that wont be a fix to all your issues but all journeys start with a single step
I'm fully updated. No issues at all. It does everything it's supposed to do. Battery life is sh1te though / no getting round that point! But it's really no worse than any other leading Samsung device I've had in the past few years. They all drop at about 10% per hour.
I have the absolutely worst version of the S22U I guess. 8/128gb, Exynos.
No issues whatsoever. Fast, smooth, good battery. No lag or crashes for the two weeks I've had it.
So FWIW I have no complaints.
Camera setup is mindblowingly good for a phone, quite frankly ridiculously good.
The only minor minus would be the lack of proper native 960fps slomo (very niche thing anyway) but that's about it. S22U does some AI interpolation stuff there, and that's okay with me I guess. I'd rather have a better overall sensor there than one tailored for Tiktokers.
I've upgraded from an 8GB/512GB Exynos Note9 to a Snapdragon 12GB/512GB S22Ultra (S9080) and I couldn't be happier. Battery life is quite frankly amazing. The UI is buttery smooth. I don't like the in-display fingerprint sensor as much as the rear one from the Note9 and the form factor is a fair bit bulkier, but on the whole I'm personally very happy. Maybe I've just been very lucky.
A good Android phone has fastboot mode...

Question I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, advice before buying please

Hi everyone, please I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, but most videos or youtubers talk about heating or overheating, advice before buying, exynos or snapdragon or which version, thank you in advance
I don't have any issues with overheating, never have.
Just look for your best deal between Samsung or your carrier with trade-ins.
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I don't have any issues with overheating, never have.
Just look for your best deal between Samsung or your carrier with trade-ins.
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thank you, look at the comments please
First week with this phone.
I don't have any kind of overheating.
On the other hand, battery is sort of dissapointing, it lasts the same as my older phones (mi 10, mi 9, honor 8, nexus 5). Around 6 hours of SOT give or take. And the charging is slower than mi 10/9.
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First week with this phone.
I don't have any kind of overheating.
On the other hand, battery is sort of dissapointing, it lasts the same as my older phones (mi 10, mi 9, honor 8, nexus 5). Around 6 hours of SOT give or take. And the charging is slower than mi 10/9.
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Does that mean other than that everything is fine? I hesitate between honor magic4 pro and realme gt 2 pro because I like samsung but I don't really know
whait for s23 ultra with sd 8 gen 2
Wait for the S23u with 8gen2, the 8gen1 and exy2200 are both inefficient.
I've got around 7 of these phones and out of them 3 had severe lag.
128gb seems to be the worst, higher memory seem to perform better.
Unless you are getting a bargain I'd wait for s23 ultra
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Hi everyone, please I plan to buy a galaxy s22 ultra, but most videos or youtubers talk about heating or overheating, advice before buying, exynos or snapdragon or which version, thank you in advance
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Why? S23 is around the corner. From the leaks it will be much better in power efficiency, specially if you are in EU and stuck with the Exynos chip which i think sucks. I read Snapdragon takes better images and is more efficient (even if i read they get overheated also)....but much of that is fixed in the S23 that uses a updated gen2 chip.
S22U is a great phone but i'm dissapointed with battery and image quality still.
Compared to my iPhone images are a hit and miss. Sometimes they are awesome but sometimes they are grainy or colors are off or just blurry.
And as said battery drain is pretty bad. Like overnight dropping 7-8% compared to 2-3% on iphone.
Same when i use it, i can literally see the battery go down...
1. Notification bar is looking like it is a theme made 10 years ago.
2. Lagging and stutters is very possible, depends on unit to unit.
3. Phone does overheat if you planning to use an app that is a heavy resources consuption or badly optimized.
4. Samsung's devices are overfilled with bloat-ware.
5. Battery efficiency is pretty bad.
6. A lot of S22U were sent back for a replacement due to multiple hardware issues, for example mine is restarting by it self when a phone call starts (not every time) but at least few times a month.
7. Edges are not usefull at all but rather annoying.
8. Stylus has terrible grip, very uncountable to hold.
9. Speaker is terrible too, if you planning to listen to a music at full volume, stop.
10. It has very annoying notifications that are not important at all and unable to deactivate, for example (Messenger is using your mobile data).
11. Fingerprint scanner is ok but could be better, sometimes I have to touch it 3 - 5 times to get it registered (depends on angle).
I've been struggling with stutters, lags as well as audio stutters for several months until a big update came up. Scrolling through UI was extremly jerky.
Personally I would never buy a samsung's device ever again but that is just me and I understand other may be completely satisfied.
For older devices Samsung is releasing updates that are slowing the devices down so people have to buy newer products regularly. For me this is just unacceptable. This is a verified info that you can search for too.
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1. Notification bar is looking like it is a theme made 10 years ago.
2. Lagging and stutters is very possible, depends on unit to unit.
3. Phone does overheat if you planning to use an app that is a heavy resources consuption or badly optimized.
4. Samsung's devices are overfilled with bloat-ware.
5. Battery efficiency is pretty bad.
6. A lot of S22U were sent back for a replacement due to multiple hardware issues, for example mine is restarting by it self when a phone call starts (not every time) but at least few times a month.
7. Edges are not usefull at all but rather annoying.
8. Stylus has terrible grip, very uncountable to hold.
9. Speaker is terrible too, if you planning to listen to a music at full volume, stop.
10. It has very annoying notifications that are not important at all and unable to deactivate, for example (Messenger is using your mobile data).
11. Fingerprint scanner is ok but could be better, sometimes I have to touch it 3 - 5 times to get it registered (depends on angle).
I've been struggling with stutters, lags as well as audio stutters for several months until a big update came up. Scrolling through UI was extremly jerky.
Personally I would never buy a samsung's device ever again but that is just me and I understand other may be completely satisfied.
For older devices Samsung is releasing updates that are slowing the devices down so people have to buy newer products regularly. For me this is just unacceptable. This is a verified info that you can search for too.
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I think it's an SOC issue on the s22u both the 8gen1 and Exy2200 are fabbed by Samsung foundries and are poor(Samsung foundries 4nm node was awful with low yields). The zfold4 with TSMC 8+Gen1 is one of the smoothest and fastest phones I've used recently, even much better than the Pixel. I don't think the issue is OneUI. I expect the S23u with the TSMC 8gen2 will be blazing fast and buttery smooth.
Might not be relevant to you, but I by now *regrett* buying the Samsung S22 Ultra.
The reason being that (depending on where you buy your phone) the firmware for your region will disable a lot of features. E.g. for me it is impossible to somehow activate the eSIM support.
And I really tried all the tweaks that are out there.
But you only notice these things after you've purchased the phone, because nothing about this is written in the manuals.
So my advice: Stay away from Samung phones.
Honestly, the s22 Ultra was a trash offering, regardless of the chipset, of course Exynos is worse. I'm trading it in for the s23 Ultra (I'm stuck with Samsung due to the purchase of a Samsung watch) and hopefully it won't be disappointing this time around. But to what I said earlier do be careful of what wearables you buy and from what brand, Samsung has great wearables, but half the features and functions usually get limited to their phones/devices. Unfortunately I didn't realise this when I bought my Galaxy Watch 4, and so now I'm stuck for at least a few years till I swap out the wearable and then the phone brand itself, probably back to Xiaomi.
I have the S22 Ultra snapdragon, great phone but some minor annoyances
. Battery it's not poor but could be better for 5000mah
. Speakers could be a bit louder
. And camera is rubbish at capturing moving subjects it always comes out blurry
I am in the same bought boat as you and bit the bullet and bought the s22 ultra 256GB. It's been 3 days since I bought it and honestly I am really satisfied. I had the z fold4 before but I found it impractical, the s22 ultra has almost the same level of performance with no noticeable downgrade. I have the snapdragon variant and it does not overheat. Battery life is OK, but it's too early to judge as it is still learning my usage patterns.
Overall I recommend buying the s22 ultra even though s23 ultra is right around the corner. Yes, it will have an effecient CPU, but I do not expect much from a single generation leap. A real upgrade would be s24 ultra as it is expected that the entire design will change
Don't plan on upgrading my S22U to the S23U. However if I were in the market for a new phone I'd wait another month and get the S23U. No brainer IMHO.
i agree with most of the reviews here. this device does not worth it.
can't believe it's actually rated as a Ultra/premium device
For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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Yes, year to year I read about unveiled best and a lot of better from year old flagship.
And after few months opinion/ reviews about disadvantages and even features which previous model had better. For example low durability frame S22 series, worse speaker quality compare to S20 series.
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For all of you counting the S23U to be the perfect phone...did they not told us that the S22U was the best of the best?
Like the SD8Gen2 will solve all your problems...
I have both the S21U and S22U with the Exynos chip and both are running fine, no overheating, no lags or stutters.
From what I have read so far is that Android 13 with One UI 5.0 has improved a lot on both the S21 and S22. I had no complaints on Android 12 and have no complaints on the latest software.
Battery life...I can't complain but then I don't have any of the social media apps on my phone which seems to be using a lot of battery.
We have little to no bloatware on the EU versions and even then this is a one time solution, delete the bloatware.
At the end of the day its ONLY a phone. There are far more important things in life than this.
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Actually yeah, it will solve a lot, the performance will actually be worth the price tag itself, which as a heavy user I actually do need, it'll solve a lot of battery drain thanks to not being an absolute power munching ****show chipset like the current exynos, oh and I'll actually be able to get decent and stable fps with graphics maxed without the phone turning into an oven. Now lets not forget other things like photography and other stuff like that s22 ultra was a flop either way, but exynos took the cherry on the top.

Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 phones

I'm trying to get an updated opinion about the "hot" snapdragon 8 gen 2 phones that are out currently. About 4-5 months ago the Vivo x90 Pro+ and Xiaomi 13 Ultra were the talk, but the vivo as it stands isn't going to be releasing a global version, and the CN version that a handful of people got their hands on, there is quite a bit of talk about all the bloatware on the device, plus notification issues, plus it doesn't appear as rooting it is anywhere in the near future for the phone.
The Xiaomi is an option and they have a global version in the talks, but apparently it might not come to the states and also I hear that the signal support is hit or miss.
Next up is the Samsung S23 Ultra; although I hear great things and generally speaking the hardware is pretty hard core, I don't have good experience with their interface. From personal experience using galaxy s6,7,8 bloatware is a HUGE issue and from what I hear not much has changed for the better since those models. Also I have read root is possible which is a plus on the S23 ultra, but still not sure if there are any limitations (outside of samsung software (I don't use samsung software)) such as google wallet/pay, bank apps, etc?
Moving on, Oneplus. I've always been a hit or miss kinda guy with the Oneplus. I've owned the op3T, op5T, and now the OP9 Pro. I like that they are "root friendly" generally speaking, and have a semi-vanilla android OS. What I dislike about the phone is the curved screen. Don't really care for it. Also the glass back is no-bueno because my current one has cracked multiple times on me despite being in a case and still functional.
Anyway, I'd like to hear some updated opinions about any of these phones or similar phones that you recommend.
For me, I am mostly interested in performance and battery life that can get me through the day or so. Having a nice camera is a perk, but I think most camera's these days are decent at the very least.
Also kind of a side topic, has anyone had any experience with a carbon fiber phone case? I was thinking of using one for my oneplus or future phone to prevent the back from breaking if it's glass. Carbon fiber is supposed to be really strong and light weight; but I'm not sure if it hinders the phone signal/antenna.
The Samsung Note 10+ (N975U1) has a smaller battery, is 30gm lighter, has better form factor & bezel to display ratio and gets better SOT (11-13 hrs) than the S23U*. In actual use it's only slightly slower except for intensive gaming. It runs cool and supports up to 1tb of expandable storage. The 60hz display is still one of the best in terms of resolution, color accuracy/calibration.
It's cams are more than adequate. Solid build quality and long lived. I have two and nothing Samsung has released since has matched it in overall functionality and usability which why I still run them. They are still a joy to use.
New ones are loaded with Android 10 are still available.
*all Samsung's should be optimized otherwise battery life will suffer.
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The Samsung Note 10+ (N975U1) has a smaller battery, is 30gm lighter, has better form factor & bezel to display ratio and gets better SOT (11-13 hrs) than the S23U*. In actual use it's only slightly slower except for intensive gaming. It runs cool and supports up to 1tb of expandable storage. The 60hz display is still one of the best in terms of resolution, color accuracy/calibration.
It's cams are more than adequate. Solid build quality and long lived. I have two and nothing Samsung has released since has matched it in overall functionality and usability which why I still run them. They are still a joy to use.
New ones are loaded with Android 10 are still available.
*all Samsung's should be optimized otherwise battery life will suffer.
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Thanks for your input. The one concern I have with that model is that I believe the form factor is considered a phablet if I'm not mistaken. I personally like the smaller phones (thinner in terms of width).
Another phone I haven't heard too much about is the iqoo 11. I think it's comparable to the Oneplus 11 in terms of price and specs. Does anyone have any input on that one?

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