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I contacted T-MO support and they say the SM-G930F is 100% compatible, but not sure I trust them. Are there any issues with HSPA support or has the network re-work been completed?
Thanks.
No wifi calling no volte other than that it should work fine
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samnada said:
I contacted T-MO support and they say the SM-G930F is 100% compatible, but not sure I trust them. Are there any issues with HSPA support or has the network re-work been completed?
Thanks.
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the biggest thing to think about is that the g930f and g935f are suppose to be region locked. Meaning you have to make a 5 minute call using a european sim before the phone will sim unlock to allow the use of a US sim. Im waiting for someone who has purchased a g930f or g935f to verify this
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No wifi calling
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you sure???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/ee-wifi-calling-s7-g930f-to-t3332611
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the biggest thing to think about is that the g930f and g935f are suppose to be region locked. Meaning you have to make a 5 minute call using a european sim before the phone will sim unlock to allow the use of a US sim. Im waiting for someone who has purchased a g930f or g935f to verify this
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I have read that as well. I'm asking because there's a sale on eBay, and they're shipping from the US. Haven't contacted the seller re: the region lock, but it would be very odd if they're selling unlocked phones in the US that can't be used. Certainly something to clarify. Without full T-MO support I'm not a buyer anyway, so that was my first concern.
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I have read that as well. I'm asking because there's a sale on eBay, and they're shipping from the US. Haven't contacted the seller re: the region lock, but it would be very odd if they're selling unlocked phones in the US that can't be used. Certainly something to clarify. Without full T-MO support I'm not a buyer anyway, so that was my first concern.
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yep, i just bought the g935f, on ebay as well...i did send a message to the seller asking to clarify if these phones will work in the US due to the supposed region lock.
I agree, it wouldnt make any sense for them to be selling these phones in the US, if they cant be used due to the region lock, everyone would be returning them.
Either way we will know for certain next week, as i think a bunch of us have jumped on the crazy deals, ie G930 for 599, g935f for 699 (no tax)
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you sure???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/ee-wifi-calling-s7-g930f-to-t3332611
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We are talking about tmobile and BYOD and the phone will come region unlocked when you purchase it just ask the seller if your unsure
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We are talking about tmobile and BYOD and the phone will come region unlocked when you purchase it just ask the seller if your unsure
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Hes talking about bringing an international device (g930f) to tmobile (hence the tiltle), in which case a person with a g930f (like in the title ) got wifi calling working...what are you talking about???
As far as region lock is concerned, i would assume like you that it will come region locked...but if youve been keeping up with some of the threads here, im sure your aware of all the assumptions regarding bootloaders...id prefer to have someone in the US actually confirm the region lock on the g930/5.
Every unlocked device I have used on tmobile doesn't have wifi calling or volte even if the phone is capable Google byod tmobile and wifi calling and show me someone with it working and if u purchase from amazon and the phone is locked just send it back
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Every unlocked device I have used on tmobile doesn't have wifi calling or volte even if the phone is capable Google byod tmobile and wifi calling and show me someone with it working and if u purchase from amazon and the phone is locked just send it back
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I'd much rather find out if the G930F will work before ordering it than go through the hassle of sending it back. Just doesn't make sense that a company would sell phones that don't work, but stranger things have happened. Thus my original post. I have no interest in rooting or alternate ROMs. Right now seems like I need to wait for the TMO version.
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I'd much rather find out if the G930F will work before ordering it than go through the hassle of sending it back. Just doesn't make sense that a company would sell phones that don't work, but stranger things have happened. Thus my original post. I have no interest in rooting or alternate ROMs. Right now seems like I need to wait for the TMO version.
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With the 930T you will get T-Mobile VoLTE, WiFi calling, and Band 4 3G in areas that have not been refarmed (is there still any left?), and T-Mobile support (and update, if they ever come out, LOL). I included support in one the pluses despite not ever relying on the provider for device support as I always root and custom ROM all phones.
If you don't care for any of the above, then the 930F would work and you could get it cheaper (even more so if you happen to have eBay Bucks), though if you factor the promotional offers, the 930T may end up cheaper.
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I'd much rather find out if the G930F will work before ordering it than go through the hassle of sending it back. Just doesn't make sense that a company would sell phones that don't work, but stranger things have happened. Thus my original post. I have no interest in rooting or alternate ROMs. Right now seems like I need to wait for the TMO version.
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I have ordered the G930F from eBay as well and that seller has sold a ton of them. I can't imagine that he wouldn't know about the region lock thing. Otherwise that would be so many returns lol
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...as I always root and custom ROM all phones.
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Just 930T cannot be rooted due to the locked bootloader... In this aspect 930F should be better. If it works with TMO.
Has anyone gotten one of these yet and can comment on VoLTE? I'm more concerned with that than Wi-Fi calling.
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Has anyone gotten one of these yet and can comment on VoLTE? I'm more concerned with that than Wi-Fi calling.
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Only phones that have VoLTE are tmobile branded phones
I'm extremely interested in this possibility. Not keen on losing VoLTE & especially WiFi Calling, but if that's what it takes to get a rooted S7, I would happily settle for this.
Hi! I got my Samsung Galaxy s7 930f today, so I was testing. Everything working fine, hsdpa, lte, I do not use VoLTE or Wifi calling, so I can't tell anything about it.
The price was $599 on the ebay. I use it in Clearwater, Fl, so looks like here the hsdpa working 1900mhz not 1700.
I have only one problem, the signal is little bit weaker than my another phone " Sony Xperia Z3 Compact ".
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Hi! I got my Samsung Galaxy s7 930f today, so I was testing. Everything working fine, hsdpa, lte, I do not use VoLTE or Wifi calling, so I can't tell anything about it.
The price was $599 on the ebay. I use it in Clearwater, Fl, so looks like here the hsdpa working 1900mhz not 1700.
I have only one problem, the signal is little bit weaker than my another phone " Sony Xperia Z3 Compact ".
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Are you on T-Mobile? Can you test VoLTE? Is there a setting for it?
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Are you on T-Mobile? Can you test VoLTE? Is there a setting for it?
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I started looking into the framework for the G935F and G935T and from what I see, there are a lot of changes that Samsung made to get VoLTE to work with T-Mobile's servers. They did not go with the AOSP implementations of VoLTE and Wifi Calling that Google introduced in Marshmallow. They're still using the same custom implementation that they used on the Note 4. It's not easy, but I think it's possible to make VoLTE work with a custom ROM. If T-Mobile/Samsung won't unlock the bootloader of the G935T by the end of my return period, I'll probably buy the G935F and take a stab at making VoLTE work.
@Python_69: Was your device SIM and region unlocked when you got it? Did it work with a T-Mobile SIM right out of the box? Also, if you wouldn't mind, could you test if your phone can receive a band 12 LTE signal (for data only of course, since we don't have VoLTE yet)? Thanks!
If it becomes possible to run a rooted Exynos S7 on Tmobile & enact wifi calling & volte, it could basically become a work around for the locked bootloader of the 820 for those looking for TW based ROMs. I'm one, & from what I've read, the exynos sounds better for my needs anyway.
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Are you on T-Mobile? Can you test VoLTE? Is there a setting for it?
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Yes I'm on t mobile. I checked the setting but I did not see any settings about VoLTE.
I want to buy a Note 8... I don't want to get locked into any Carrier, but I want Wifi calling and other options to work... I know that ATT needs a ATT Rom to get Wifi Calling... I may switch to T Mobile later this year...
Can I Buy a ATT Note 8 and flash TMobile Rom? Or Vice Versa?
If so, is there any reason to buy one Carrier's Note 8 over another?
THANKS!!!
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I want to buy a Note 8... I don't want to get locked into any Carrier, but I want Wifi calling and other options to work... I know that ATT needs a ATT Rom to get Wifi Calling... I may switch to T Mobile later this year...
Can I Buy a ATT Note 8 and flash TMobile Rom? Or Vice Versa?
If so, is there any reason to buy one Carrier's Note 8 over another?
THANKS!!!
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All usa models are the same now, since the S7. Buy the carrier you want to use it on or buy the unlocked.
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All usa models are the same now, since the S7. Buy the carrier you want to use it on or buy the unlocked.
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Att WiFi calling only works on ATT Rom... So although hardware is the same, not all software is the same. Att also turns off some LTE bands so you cannot use theirs on other networks...
Also, If I take a att phone to t mobile or Verizon, will WiFi calling work?
So, same question, can I simply Odin any rom onto any note 8?
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Att WiFi calling only works on ATT Rom... So although hardware is the same, not all software is the same. Att also turns off some LTE bands so you cannot use theirs on other networks...
Also, If I take a att phone to t mobile or Verizon, will WiFi calling work?
So, same question, can I simply Odin any rom onto any note 8?
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From past experience you can just Odin to whatever carrier software you want. At least you could on the S8 and the S7. I've seen a few people say they went from the best buy note 8 unlocked firmware to the AT&T firmware to enable LTE-A and wifi calling.
I still recommend just buying the model for the carrier you are going to use though. I've had the best experience doing that myself.
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From past experience you can just Odin to whatever carrier software you want. At least you could on the S8 and the S7. I've seen a few people say they went from the best buy note 8 unlocked firmware to the AT&T firmware to enable LTE-A and wifi calling.
I still recommend just buying the model for the carrier you are going to use though. I've had the best experience doing that myself.
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I have an unlocked Note 8 currently that I flashed via odin to AT&T firmware and still couldn't get Wifi Calling to work... I got VoLTE to work but Wifi Calling wouldn't activate and didn't bother with Video Calling...
I think AT&T has to whitelist your IMEI for their carrier features to work unlike T-Mobile...
Best to just buy carrier version and then flash to unlocked later if you want. They are all the same phone.
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Since att is the most difficult to work with, it sounds like I should buy att then if I switch, I can flash t mobile... That gives me the freedom to move back...
Do we have confirmation I can flash t mobile over att firmware?
Best to buy the one you can unlock easier an cheaper then flash which ever firmware you want, which is what I did. Works great?
How do I unlock my phone to switch carriers
I'm trying to switch carriers , please help
I almost started a thread of my own, buy my question fits here so here goes.
Witch modle would you buy?, I am leaning towards the Exynos, Note 8, but I dont know where to buy it, can anyone drop me a link?
Exynos vs Snapdragon
I think exynos, purely because it's already rooted, Your thoughts?
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I'm trying to switch carriers , please help
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Carrier switching guide on its way...
I'm wondering the same. Thinking about switching from att to tmobile. Would wifi calling and other features work on the tmobile variant if I flashed the unlocked FW? Also, do you know if there are any specific features att or tmobile has removed from the stock phone?
Hello all,
A friend of mine is on AT&T and thinking of getting an US unlocked S8+ to use. He asked me what he might miss out on by not getting the AT&T version. I'm thinking VOLTE, maybe wifi calling. Idk. Can anyone enlighten us?
Thanks.
-evilhunter101
P.S. I swear this is really for a friend, I'm using a Verizon S8+ on Verizon :good:
I had bought an AT&T version of the S8 plus and unlocked it, then i switched the fw to the unlocked version and now i am able to use it on any carrier i want. The only problem is that i have to activate my service on one of my older phone that used the carrier i wanted.
Honestly, won't be missing out on much
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I had bought an AT&T version of the S8 plus and unlocked it, then i switched the fw to the unlocked version and now i am able to use it on any carrier i want. The only problem is that i have to activate my service on one of my older phone that used the carrier i wanted.
Honestly, won't be missing out on much
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So basically nothing missing. That's good to hear. He's already on AT&T but I don't know the sim card size of his current phone. We'll deal with that when we get there.
Thanks, appreciate the information.
I think you're right about WiFi calling unless there is some other way to add it. I'm looking for a solution for that. I just switched my AT&T S8+ to an unlocked ROM and that is the thing I miss the most. Not sure about volte.
In a dilemma and hoping to get the answer from like minded and knowledgeable folks.
So I am trading in my S10+ for the Note 10+. Samsung is offering $600 off when trading the S10+ for an unlocked Note 10+ or $450 for a T-Mobile locked Note 10+. This is on top off the $200 they are giving for accessories. Obviously the $600 discount is pretty attractive.
Since I've never purchased an unlocked phone and used it on T-Mobile, what I would like to know from you guys is if there is a difference between Samsung unlocked vs. T-Mobile locked phones. I'm asking because I know Samsung has unified the hardware and software on all of the flagship devices for a couple of years now on all carriers. so truly what will I be really missing if I bought an unlocked Note 10 and use a T-Mobile SIM card on it?
Appreciate the help everyone.
I have the unlocked note9 on T-Mobile. I haven't noticed anything missing. The only downside is that the unlocked variants get software updates last.
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In a dilemma and hoping to get the answer from like minded and knowledgeable folks.
So I am trading in my S10+ for the Note 10+. Samsung is offering $600 off when trading the S10+ for an unlocked Note 10+ or $450 for a T-Mobile locked Note 10+. This is on top off the $200 they are giving for accessories. Obviously the $600 discount is pretty attractive.
Since I've never purchased an unlocked phone and used it on T-Mobile, what I would like to know from you guys is if there is a difference between Samsung unlocked vs. T-Mobile locked phones. I'm asking because I know Samsung has unified the hardware and software on all of the flagship devices for a couple of years now on all carriers. so truly what will I be really missing if I bought an unlocked Note 10 and use a T-Mobile SIM card on it?
Appreciate the help everyone.
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The only difference is the update speeds, unlocked is usually last. I have an unlocked Samsung on T-mobile with no problems at all. All the T-mobile apps are on the play store so you can just download the ones you want. Don't sweat it, get that bigger discount.
TMO:
- Carrier apps
- Video Calling
- RCS
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- Hiya
- All Bands from U version + VoLTE + Vowifi on TMO
- Facebook suite
- Regular boot screen
- Last for updates (usually)
- No SIM lock
I used a U1 N8 and S10+ on T-Mobile in the past. Nothing of note is lost when unlocked models are used on T-Mobile. On others carrier you may lose VoLTE or Vowifi.
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I must've been drinking the night I posted this.
So when you order the unlocked version from the us do you still get the snapdragon version or exynos?
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The only difference is the update speeds, unlocked is usually last. I have an unlocked Samsung on T-mobile with no problems at all. All the T-mobile apps are on the play store so you can just download the ones you want. Don't sweat it, get that bigger discount.
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So you get RCS and video calling?Different people say different things when it comes to unlocked phones on Tmobile as to what they get to work vs Tmobile variant
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So when you order the unlocked version from the us do you still get the snapdragon version or exynos?
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The us sold unlocked versions are snap dragons and you can flash any firmware you please from a carrier if you're so inclined.
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The us sold unlocked versions are snap dragons and you can flash any firmware you please from a carrier if you're so inclined.
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Thanks Jack I guess I'll have to wait want to order the note 10+ but I need the exynos version ?
So what is the definitive answer as to what works and doesn't work with the unlocked version?
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So what is the definitive answer as to what works and doesn't work with the unlocked version?
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Pretty much nothing to worry about nowadays. In the past you'd have to make sure you got the correct Bands for whichever carrier you were using but now theyre all the same. Just know that with an Unlocked version youll get slower updates but there are ways around that as well.
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The only difference is the update speeds, unlocked is usually last. I have an unlocked Samsung on T-mobile with no problems at all. All the T-mobile apps are on the play store so you can just download the ones you want. Don't sweat it, get that bigger discount.
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Pretty much nothing to worry about nowadays. In the past you'd have to make sure you got the correct Bands for whichever carrier you were using but now theyre all the same. Just know that with an Unlocked version youll get slower updates but there are ways around that as well.
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So your saying that wifi calling/RCS/Video Calling/visual voice mail works with unlocked version?
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I have the unlocked note9 on T-Mobile. I haven't noticed anything missing. The only downside is that the unlocked variants get software updates last.
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So your wifi calling video calling RCS and visual voice mail is working?
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So your saying that wifi calling/RCS/Video Calling/visual voice mail works with unlocked version?
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Wifi calling works fine, video calling works fine, i use Google duo and messenger, visual voicemail works. Rcs is the only thing that I am unsure of.
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So your saying that wifi calling/RCS/Video Calling/visual voice mail works with unlocked version?
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So your wifi calling video calling RCS and visual voice mail is working?
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Google is taking over RCS shortly so you should be set!
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In a dilemma and hoping to get the answer from like minded and knowledgeable folks.
So I am trading in my S10+ for the Note 10+. Samsung is offering $600 off when trading the S10+ for an unlocked Note 10+ or $450 for a T-Mobile locked Note 10+. This is on top off the $200 they are giving for accessories. Obviously the $600 discount is pretty attractive.
Since I've never purchased an unlocked phone and used it on T-Mobile, what I would like to know from you guys is if there is a difference between Samsung unlocked vs. T-Mobile locked phones. I'm asking because I know Samsung has unified the hardware and software on all of the flagship devices for a couple of years now on all carriers. so truly what will I be really missing if I bought an unlocked Note 10 and use a T-Mobile SIM card on it?
Appreciate the help everyone.
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Initially I wanted to order T-Mobile variant of Note10(thought I won't have to flash the firmware), but I saw that the trade in offer is lower than for unlocked model. So I pre-ordered an Unlocked Note10 because of $600 for my S10e. I guess flashing firmware is unavoidable, same as was with S10e and others before it.
Regular person won't see any issues using unlocked model on T-Mobile. If you need T-Mobile's feature, then flashing T-Mobile firmware will give you: Video Calling, Advanced Messaging, will show 4G LTE(instead of just LTE/LTE+), T-Mobile boot logo and some T-Mo apps. You can always go back to XAA firmware
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I have the unlocked note9 on T-Mobile. I haven't noticed anything missing. The only downside is that the unlocked variants get software updates last.
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Initially I wanted to order T-Mobile variant of Note10(thought I won't have to flash the firmware), but I saw that the trade in offer is lower than for unlocked model. So I pre-ordered an Unlocked Note10 because of $600 for my S10e. I guess flashing firmware is unavoidable, same as was with S10e and others before it.
Regular person won't see any issues using unlocked model on T-Mobile. If you need T-Mobile's feature, then flashing T-Mobile firmware will give you: Video Calling, Advanced Messaging, will show 4G LTE(instead of just LTE/LTE+), T-Mobile boot logo and some T-Mo apps. You can always go back to XAA firmware
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something i was thinking the $600 for the unlocked version.. Im still uncertain though because different people say different things as to what they can get to work with Tmobile with the unlocked version, but I think i will get the unlocked one hopefully Google get their stuff together with RCS and just take control...
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something i was thinking the $600 for the unlocked version.. Im still uncertain though because different people say different things as to what they can get to work with Tmobile with the unlocked version, but I think i will get the unlocked one hopefully Google get stuff together with RCS and just take control...
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I listed what functions on unlocked variants. Nothing changed with the N10 in terms of TMobile compatibility. Like the S10s and most unlocked phones, carrier features aren't present.
Firmware conversion can bring them back as others mentioned.
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I listed what functions on unlocked variants. Nothing changed with the N10 in terms of TMobile compatibility. Like the S10s and most unlocked phones, carrier features aren't present.
Firmware conversion can bring them back as others mentioned.
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must of missed it i will go back and check thread
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must of missed it i will go back and check thread
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I tried the phone, TMobile is fine on the unlocked model.
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something i was thinking the $600 for the unlocked version.. Im still uncertain though because different people say different things as to what they can get to work with Tmobile with the unlocked version, but I think i will get the unlocked one hopefully Google get their stuff together with RCS and just take control...
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What I have wrote in my previous message is 100% correct and I have noticed that some other people wrote similar stuff. Basically even if you won't flash your unlocked Note 10 phone, you won't have any issues or any incompatibility using the phone on T-Mobile. I am with T-Mobile since 2003 and have seen more than enough phones to know for sure. If not buying T-Mobile branded phone would pose any issues or problems, believe me I would certainly get T-Mobile version
I most likely will flash Note 10 if I would have the urge to have some of aforementioned T-Mo features(I do usually flash though)
So someone is the Fold subreddit said that he was able to flash the Canada firmware on his US unlocked fold and everything works including 5G. Is this true? Are there any downside from doing this? Thanks for any imput.
My understanding is that you need a device that supports the bands your carrier uses, that's all. The U1 has the widest carrier coverage. I have tried to find info on whether you can flash a firmware to get other bands, and perhaps that's what you are asking, but I doubt this.
Which carrier are you on?
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So someone is the Fold subreddit said that he was able to flash the Canada firmware on his US unlocked fold and everything works including 5G. Is this true? Are there any downside from doing this? Thanks for any imput.
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Yes it is possible. They are the same device and you can cross flash. But why do you want to?
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Yes it is possible. They are the same device and you can cross flash. But why do you want to?
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Not so much wanting to but was just trying to educate myself if it was possible. The whole discussion was to get the new Android 11 update sooner since unlocked models are the last to get it.
Renae27 said:
My understanding is that you need a device that supports the bands your carrier uses, that's all. The U1 has the widest carrier coverage. I have tried to find info on whether you can flash a firmware to get other bands, and perhaps that's what you are asking, but I doubt this.
Which carrier are you on?
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I am on tmobile. It was a discussion to get android 11 sooner instead of waiting.
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So someone is the Fold subreddit said that he was able to flash the Canada firmware on his US unlocked fold and everything works including 5G. Is this true? Are there any downside from doing this? Thanks for any imput.
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I went ahead and did it ...I'm actually loving it! I'm just going to keep the sm-f916w version since it seems to get the faster updates and also as a plus I can see less samsung spam ads for some reason. I could be wrong but my samsung pay no longer displays ads all over the place as it has a more clean look. I dont get multiple notifications about turning on my phone finder offline or whatever as the US version did. That was driving me nuts!
I flashed it to my Tmobile U model yesterday which i had U1 on. Works fine.