Hi there
I wanted to ask how safe is to use an Android that won't receive any software or security updates from the manufacturer.
I have a realme 6 pro and I am really satisfied with it. But since it won't get any more Google updates or security updates I wanted to know how safe can it be to use it. I am not really interested in buying a new phone at the moment and that concerns me.
Thank you
With a strong anti-virus and anti-malware, it should be okay for quite some time. Just trust your anti-virus unless you know something is for sure safe, and you should be safe for the next year or perhaps more.
Arealhooman said:
With a strong anti-virus and anti-malware, it should be okay for quite some time. Just trust your anti-virus unless you know something is for sure safe, and you should be safe for the next year or perhaps more.
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Any good free antivirus to recommend?
manu3732 said:
Any good free antivirus to recommend?
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For anti malware I would suggest MalwareBytes (by far the best for malware but if not Premuim requires you to manually activate a scan). For antivirus, I personally use avira, after tons of research, I found it to be best.
Avira Security Antivirus & VPN - Apps on Google Play
Fast Antivirus & VPN, Identity Protection and App-Locker
play.google.com
Arealhooman said:
For anti malware I would suggest MalwareBytes (by far the best for malware but if not Premuim requires you to manually activate a scan). For antivirus, I personally use avira, after tons of research, I found it to be best.
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Cool. Thank you
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Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
Could you please guide which is the best antivirus for galaxy tab which should not be very resource hungry.
Thanks in advance
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I use look out
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pda_crazy said:
Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
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A report that was released by a company selling anti-virus products for Android. A report that has since been attacked for its credibility, as it seems the "trojan" may simply have been a legitimate (if intrusive) reporting mechanism used by the Chinese store selling those apps.
Bottom line: If you don't side-load content, you simply do not need anti virus on Android. It's a waste of time, money, processing power and battery life. I'm not aware of any known exploits on the Android ecosystem that don't require the user to side-load malware from sources outside the official Android market.
Android isn't windows. Android is a secure architecture from the ground up. Android doesn't have OS holes that need plugging. Android doesn't offer itself up to be infected every time an email is received.
If you're really worried about viruses, simply don't install apps from anywhere except the official Android market. Doing this single thing will do far more to guarantee safety than any anti-virus software.
Now if you do side-load content from questionable sources, an anti-virus product could potentially provide protection. In the real word, anti-virus software rarely recognizes new, zero day exploits. so not all that much protection at all.
After hearing such good things about android i am feeling proud to be android owner.
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Do we really need an Antivirus on the Galaxy Tab?
Better safe than sorry especially since there is no rejection poilicy for the market
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i think your better served reading the permissions of apps installed.
Things like Applanet that ask for access to log in credentials are far more dangerous then malware.
That is as long as your not getting your apps from chinese markets.
NetQin Android Antivirus
pda_crazy said:
Hi guys
i just read about trojan attack on android phones and hence i am planning to install antivirus software.
Could you please guide which is the best antivirus for galaxy tab which should not be very resource hungry.
Thanks in advance
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NetQin Android Antivirus, works fine!
TainT said:
i think your better served reading the permissions of apps installed.
Things like Applanet that ask for access to log in credentials are far more dangerous then malware.
That is as long as your not getting your apps from chinese markets.
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This.
Antivirus apps are not required. These "reports" are from antivirus creators designed to make you think you need one.
Actually read the reports? They are not viruses, but simply permissions you give it when installing anyway.
I wouldn't have thought antivirus was required, especially given Android's base as a Linux. All it would do is waste CPU cycles.
Spent the last 5 years as a Symbian user listening to people claim that AV on the phones was a 'must have'.
Glad to see some things are the same on Android!
A Trojan Horse on Android/Linux is like an upper class chav, it's not going to happen.
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EStrong Security manager isn't an antivirus per se but it seems to do a manual scan for malicious apps. They're very vague as to what it actually does though.
I don't really understand why people feel the need to get anti-virus for linux. To get something malicious you've got to install it yourself and thats pretty damn hard considering the phone will tell you what the app is tring to access and even then the app doesn't have any access to any other apps nor does it have root access to the phones file system.... the most it could really do is collect data about you, or maybe delete files on your SD card or something like that.
there is some very naive linux fanboys in here. there is plenty of reasons to have some sort of malware/privacy security on android. there have been various independant confirmations of apps in the market place containing malware espesially in the last month or so.
lookout is a good one or kaspersky. the both have good scanners and also can protect personal info aswell.
TheATHEiST said:
there is some very naive linux fanboys in here. there is plenty of reasons to have some sort of malware/privacy security on android. there have been various independant confirmations of apps in the market place containing malware espesially in the last month or so.
lookout is a good one or kaspersky. the both have good scanners and also can protect personal info aswell.
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I would think that since the last reply was from January, people would have learnt that.. The last malware incident that got Google involved within 5 minutes and had over 50 apps pulled was pretty well publicized.
Anyway, people have got to realize that no one OS is invulnerable. It's just a matter of time before people start finding exploits when an OS gets popular - for Android that time is now. Heck, not sure how many people are aware, but roots and jailbreaks ARE exploits themselves. Trying scanning the rooting/jailbreaking tools with your desktop AV and all becomes clear.
darkwoof said:
Heck, not sure how many people are aware, but roots and jailbreaks ARE exploits themselves. Trying scanning the rooting/jailbreaking tools with your desktop AV and all becomes clear.
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Precisely. A rooted device is the best to attack for malware apps. If there's a developer that's smart enough, they can get pretty much anything if you're rooted.
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Since I'm rooted, I installed Lookout too.
Funny coz it's easily uninstalled eventhough has apps policy/administrator (I forgot the name)
Well.. I use it mainly for the Missing Device feature (paired with PREY also).
GANJDROID said:
Precisely. A rooted device is the best to attack for malware apps. If there's a developer that's smart enough, they can get pretty much anything if you're rooted.
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dude you did not understand the last post at all!
you dont need to have your device rooted. a normal market app can root your device without you knowing it, and can then do whatever with your device.
how do you think z4root does root your device? (z4root is an app that does root the phone for you, normally with your knowledge)
Geletis said:
A report that was released by a company selling anti-virus products for Android. A report that has since been attacked for its credibility, as it seems the "trojan" may simply have been a legitimate (if intrusive) reporting mechanism used by the Chinese store selling those apps.
Bottom line: If you don't side-load content, you simply do not need anti virus on Android. It's a waste of time, money, processing power and battery life. I'm not aware of any known exploits on the Android ecosystem that don't require the user to side-load malware from sources outside the official Android market.
Android isn't windows. Android is a secure architecture from the ground up. Android doesn't have OS holes that need plugging. Android doesn't offer itself up to be infected every time an email is received.
If you're really worried about viruses, simply don't install apps from anywhere except the official Android market. Doing this single thing will do far more to guarantee safety than any anti-virus software.
Now if you do side-load content from questionable sources, an anti-virus product could potentially provide protection. In the real word, anti-virus software rarely recognizes new, zero day exploits. so not all that much protection at all.
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Dude, You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. MANY malware have been discovered as been submitted and released via market.
http://pocketnow.com/android/google-removes-ten-malware-infected-apps-from-android-market
I'm wondering if I really need AV protection on my smartphone...is it really necessary right now? If not, I see no reason to install an app that preforms an uneccessary function. And I already have Titanium and good privacy apps, So, if AV isn't neceesary at this place in time, there are alternatives I could use for data protection/phone tracking, etc. One of them is Android Lost.
I'm usually on my wifi network or 3G, but anticipate times where I would need to use a public wifi NW.
So is SL the end-all be all, or would AL suffice?
Hello Sam Sung. I thought I would let you know that AV software isn't really nessary for you phone as long as you don't installing applications that are questionable or have no reviews for them or even not on the market and getting them elsewhere. But even if you don't do any of them things I find lookout quite useful because if I lose my phone I can just get online and locate it and go to that position and set off the siren to find it. But I am sure this would only be useful if it is close enough to a location that you would remember that you left it somewhere there or has a close address for it.
Quite honestly, I would keep an AV app on my phone. A great free one is antivirus free. There is more and more malware being created for android devices, so better safe than sorry. It definitely isn't necessary though.
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Thanks for your responses. Truth is, I really don't want AV running on this phone (E4GT, btw). That said, I'm very cautious and security conscious, which has kept me malware free for many years. I guess I just have to decide which app I want to use for phone locating and data protection (remote wiping, locking). If I can turn off the features I don't want in LS, I may go with that, since it's so hugely popular.
Can the other features be turned off, or is there a comparably effective alternative?
I installed lookout to test it for you. It has features such as backup, safe browsing, location, and others. You can choose which features you want to enable or disable. If you want the premium verion its 2.99 usb/month or 20.99 usd/year. The free version has everything you need. I would use it. Just give it a shot. I hope I helped.
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I installed lookout to test it for you. It has features such as backup, safe browsing, location, and others. You can choose which features you want to enable or disable. If you want the premium verion its 2.99 usb/month or 20.99 usd/year. The free version has everything you need. I would use it. Just give it a shot. I hope I helped.
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Sorry to prompt that...I really should have just done that myself, I just thought someone might have experience that could be related. I'll likely try both. Thanks!
I have Android Lost on my phone and I love it. There was a review done on Android Police a while back of the best Android Security apps. It was about 17 different articles and then one roundup article.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...s-a-clear-winner-in-keeping-your-device-safe/
Norton has a security app out
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I would avoid the norton one. From my experience its garbage just like it is for computer.
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Thanks for all comments, and thanks to squirelltech for a great link. I've decided to go with Avast Mobile Security, which bought Theft Aware and has incorporated it into their free suite:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...for-the-best-overall-security-app-on-android/
http://forum.avast.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=gb2bhmaekrjpl3ji2tg3m51i07&board=37.0
I can uninstall the suite, and Theft Aware remains, securely hidden, so one can use only the Theft Aware component without the rest of the suite.
I may be traveling soon, so the entire suite may be expedient for strange wi-fi networks. Good time to give it a try.
Does anyone have any comments regarding public wifi networks and the vulnerability of these devices?
Thanks again!
Sam Sung said:
I may be traveling soon, so the entire suite may be expedient for strange wi-fi networks. Good time to give it a try.
Does anyone have any comments regarding public wifi networks and the vulnerability of these devices?
Thanks again!
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http://lifehacker.com/5844632/droidsheep-brings-firesheep+like-session+hijacking-to-android-devices
http://lifehacker.com/5807740/facen...ndroid-hijacks-facebook-sessions-with-one-tap
pretty easy to hack people at public wifi's
you have done the correct thing i was going to tell you to use avast i have tested every aspect of it antitheft and sim protection and commands they all work internet protection blocks malware spyware good choice
android_29 said:
you have done the correct thing i was going to tell you to use avast i have tested every aspect of it antitheft and sim protection and commands they all work internet protection blocks malware spyware good choice
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Thanks for the confirmation and the testing .
squirreltech said:
http://lifehacker.com/5844632/droidsheep-brings-firesheep+like-session+hijacking-to-android-devices
http://lifehacker.com/5807740/facen...ndroid-hijacks-facebook-sessions-with-one-tap
pretty easy to hack people at public wifi's
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Inevitable. It's difficult to have faith in humanity these days. That said, I will likely use one highly exclusive wifi spot, but on the chance there should be an issue, I'll remove my few business accounts, wipe passwords, cookies and browser cache. And I don't use accounts on android that might be interesting to a hacker...definitely no financial data or sensitive accounts. I don't even buy apps from my phone. Along with Avast, my innate distrust and common sense, I should be OK.
COMODO's new antivirus application for android
Antivirus, privacy protector, call-blocker and process manager in a single app.
COMODO Mobile Security provides real-time protection against known and emerging threats on your mobile device while helping to protect your privacy and keep your system optimized
link......https://forums.comodo.com/comodo-mo...-v11169842-is-formally-released-t80676.0.html
market link....https://market.android.com/details?id=com.comodo.pimsecure
https://m.comodo.com/
What do you think about avast? Your review regarding it.
Downloading it now. Thanks josinpaul for your review
thank you...
hsrbnr said:
What do you think about avast? Your review regarding it.
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I download avast the other day for my Flyer. I like what I see thus far, but I've always liked their products anyway. UI seems simple and smooth. I'd like to see if there are any recent reviews of what's available out there.
nghia2080 said:
Downloading it now. Thanks josinpaul for your review
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root+droidwall=99.99% protection
root+droidwall+any antivirus=99.999% protection and 100% peace of mind
finaly a free one
why would you get anti virus on your phone. I have never heard of anyone being hacked on there phone.
the only reason I can see it is if you do online banking.
avast (which I use on my computer) just said they released an android av app.
who hacks phones? lol.
umirin said:
why would you get anti virus on your phone. I have never heard of anyone being hacked on there phone.
the only reason I can see it is if you do online banking.
avast (which I use on my computer) just said they released an android av app.
who hacks phones? lol.
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Antivirus like Lookout scans all your apps on your phone, if you ever install any 3rd part apps that you didn't get from the Market, might be useful.. then again, don't know how reliable the AV scanner really is scanning apps, or how it works.
Not worth it imo. Be smart about what you install and you'll be fine.
takes up to much system ram and cpu for me kills battery faster
nod 32 is a prettly good antivirus
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takes up to much system ram and cpu for me kills battery faster
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Agreed! And if you know what you are doing and you have disabled option "Install Applications From Unknown Sources" in setting there are really tiny chance to get viruses.
But if you have risen this question then more likely you need Antivirus
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Agreed! And if you know what you are doing and you have disabled option "Install Applications From Unknown Sources" in setting there are really tiny chance to get viruses.
But if you have risen this question then more likely you need Antivirus
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Actually, due to no market security, most of androids viruses go on the market.
I feel that Google would clamp down faster than these antivirus companies if a virus were to arise.
tejrl said:
I feel that Google would clamp down faster than these antivirus companies if a virus were to arise.
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Viruses on android are currently increasing exponentially...
Don't download anything stupid and you'll be fine. Make sure and check what exactly the app is accessing.
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Don't download anything stupid and you'll be fine. Make sure and check what exactly the app is accessing.
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Agreed. I do use the odd off the Market download, but I always read the comments from others and also check what permissions it wants. Better same then sorry.
That's great advice for the power user, but the average user is going to say, "Free guitar hero? Awesome! *download*. The important thing to remember is that we're oftentimes more capable than the target audience. My Grandma still believes she's the one-millionth visitor.
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That's great advice for the power user, but the average user is going to say, "Free guitar hero? Awesome! *download*. The important thing to remember is that we're oftentimes more capable than the target audience. My Grandma still believes she's the one-millionth visitor.
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What is all this "we" stuff? There is no such thing as a "power user" with a Lumia...
lowandbehold said:
What is all this "we" stuff? There is no such thing as a "power user" with a Lumia...
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Incessant, off-topic trolling even when I'm not pinpointing the flaws in your OS. Please try to stay on topic.
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Incessant, off-topic trolling even when I'm not pinpointing the flaws in your OS. Please try to stay on topic.
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Well stop talking down on the average user when in fact that is what you are. The average user knows to a point what to download and what not to download. Is it really a surprise that "sexy girl puzzle" might be malicious? Any user can figure that out.
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Well stop talking down on the average user when in fact that is what you are. The average user knows to a point what to download and what not to download. Is it really a surprise that "sexy girl puzzle" might be malicious? Any user can figure that out.
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My platform of choice does not make me an average user. You've contributed absolutely nothing to any conversation, something at least the other people who dislike me do, and see yourself as higher purely based on your choice of platform. At least when I do what one might consider, "trolling." I make a point and attempt to remain on topic.
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My platform of choice does not make me an average user. You've contributed absolutely nothing to any conversation, something at least the other people who dislike me do, and see yourself as higher purely based on your choice of platform. At least when I do what one might consider, "trolling." I make a point and attempt to remain on topic.
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Did you not see the point that the average user knows what to download and not to download? Plenty of my friends are "average users" and have never gotten a virus on their cell phone. Is that enough of a point?
Antivirus for Android is pointless. There are NO Android viruses. Don't think of Android in Windows terms. It's not Windows and so does not have the same vulnerabilies as Windows.
Antivirus companies depend on the fear and ignorance of their customers. Companies peddling antivirus for Android (or Linux) should at least be honest that it is only useful for scanning files to be transferred to Windows machines.
This doesn't mean there is no Android malware - there is. And a virus is a type of malware. But not all malware is a virus.
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Did you not see the point that the average user knows what to download and not to download? Plenty of my friends are "average users" and have never gotten a virus on their cell phone. Is that enough of a point?
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The free guitar hero app got a couple hundred thousand and the viruses are ever-increasing.
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Crashdamage said:
Antivirus for Android is pointless. There are NO Android viruses. Don't think of Android in Windows terms. It's not Windows and so does not have the same vulnerabilies as Windows.
Antivirus companies depend on the fear and ignorance of their customers. Companies peddling antivirus for Android (or Linux) should at least be honest that it is only useful for scanning files to be transferred to Windows machines.
This doesn't mean there is no Android malware - there is. And a virus is a type of malware. But not all malware is a virus.
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So, the point is that you feel they should change the name from virus scanner to malware scanner?
umirin said:
why would you get anti virus on your phone. I have never heard of anyone being hacked on there phone.
the only reason I can see it is if you do online banking.
avast (which I use on my computer) just said they released an android av app.
who hacks phones? lol.
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There are a lot of application tht can steal your phone information something like spywere and can compromise phone performance ... but anyway if you take care of what app you install in your phone is hard to take viruses or malicius software ... imo you don't really need an anti virus for phone device
I don't know how many of you pay attention to security issues but I thought I would post a link to this Threatpost article.
http://threatpost.com/en_us/blogs/staggering-increase-android-malware-variants-trojan-apps-051612
It behooves one to pay attention to what you are installing and what permissions apps are requesting. I just ditched Evernote due to increased permissions, even though it is from what one might call a trusted source.
Edit: I have not finished perusing the F-Secure Mobile Threat Report, but so far it is a good read.
I've never once had a problem with any kind of malware or virus on my phone. Then again I'm careful and use common sense. Which goes a long way
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I've never once had a problem with any kind of malware or virus on my phone. Then again I'm careful and use common sense. Which goes a long way
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Common sense does go a long way. With some of the posts I've seen on XDA, there seems to be a lack of that not-so-common attribute. Flashing without thinking, sideloading apps from unknown sources, etc.
Google appears to be reacting (albeit slowly) with Bouncer, trying to police Market/Play. I'm not sure if Amazon is doing anything similar for their app store. The big picture still looks rather grim. Will we be looking at large scale botnets this year? Hopefully not. The idea of Android botnets makes me a bit ill.
Unless malware can show up on the store, I don't see the issue here. It's a risk we've all known about since the day Android came out.
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Unless malware can show up on the store, I don't see the issue here. It's a risk we've all known about since the day Android came out.
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Malware has shown up on the store. The issue is that Android is increasing its market share by leaps and bounds, black hats are writing more sophisticated malware, and more people are hacking their devices without a clue as to what they are doing. If you read the F-Secure Mobile Threat Report (linked in Threatpost), the number of detected malware APK's has grown tenfold over the last year.
Golly gosh.
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Phalanx7621 said:
I've never once had a problem with any kind of malware or virus on my phone. Then again I'm careful and use common sense. Which goes a long way
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Exactly the same here
Windows has had malware threats for well over a decade and as it matured the OS was patched to deal with it. Android is more secure than Windows is, you not only have to download a malicious app you also have to install it before anything bad can happen.
Google will hopefully implement a more effective way of preventing malware from entering the Play Store but this may have the side effect of false positives on certain rooting/tweaking apps.
As pc are being replaced by tablets, its a juicy business for anti virus companies.
So i wouldn't trust any report from av companies...
It's usually pretty vague. Which app on android market?
As you get virus when you install warez games on pc, the same goes for android if you manually install an apk out of android market. Nothing new.
rchtk said:
As pc are being replaced by tablets, its a juicy business for anti virus companies.
So i wouldn't trust any report from av companies...
It's usually pretty vague. Which app on android market?
As you get virus when you install warez games on pc, the same goes for android if you manually install an apk out of android market. Nothing new.
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I think you guys are missing the OP's point. You dont have to manually install an .apk.
A fake company called "MYOURNET" (touche for the name, rather ironic now) took a bunch of real apps from the market, injected them with malware and resubmitted them back onto the marketplace. The new malware could root your phone, steal your data, and keep a backdoor open for more goodies. Crazy ****.
http://androidcommunity.com/android-virus-served-up-by-user-myournet-20110302/
I admi i didn't open the pdf (pdf is now the number one virus vector ;-) but as far as i see it didn't mention reinjection in the market. Well.. pay attention to permissions..
Nothing else to do.
How to define a virus? That is the question..
Only install trusted editor from the market. Only install applications which provide ttheir source code and read it..
Easy answer for malware pike: piracy, period