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I saw opinions that S22 made in Vietnam running worse, battery efficency is bad and even overall quality is too worse compare to Korea devices.
Anybody can confirm this or had contact with S22 versin from 2 abover contries?
There's no difference. The efficiency problems with the S22u are due to Samsung fabs poor 4nm node and both the SD and Exynos being inefficient because of this.
My opinion is not to give much credence to those opinions. Had and used Samsung device made in either of those countries and they all performed the same. Bad batch can affect any production line irrespective of location
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I'm planning on buying a new phone and the most important thing that I'm looking for is longevity, that is, to get a phone that will last as much as possible before I need to replace it, something like 4+ years.
The two phones that are within my price range and that I think will fulfil this criteria are: Poco F3 and Samsung Galaxy A52s
Now, I'm in a bit of a dilemma of deciding which of these two phones I should take, and the only thing that remains is to decide which of the features of these phones provide better future-proofing.
Poco F3 for example, comes with amazing specs for it's price range (SD870 CPU, Adreno 650 GPU, 8GB (DDR5) RAM, UFS 3.1 Storage speed) which seem to be flagship grade, and it does have IP53 rating. However, from what I've read, it does come with a weaker / sluggish software, that is, it's operating system MIUI, and less update support.
A52s on the other hand comes with weaker specs that are mostly aimed towards midrange phones (SD778 CPU, Adreno 642L GPU, 6GB (DDR4) RAM, UFS 2.1 Storage speed), but it does come with a bit more stable OS, more software support, and IP67 rating.
Both phones have specs that are overkill for my minimal use cases. I don't do a lot on my phone other than browse the net and watch YouTube videos, and I try to avoid dropping my phone on the ground and water so I'm not sure how much the IP ratings are relevant here. The only remaining factor in deciding which of these two phones I should get is whether or not taking a phone with better hardware (F3) has an advantage of taking a phone with better software support (A52s)?
On the one hand, if I take F3, I'll have better hardware, but less updates to push that hardware to it's maximum efficiency, and due to my use cases, I wonder if I should even bother with stronger specs, whereas if I take the A52s, I'm worried about the opposite, if it's midrange CPU (SD778) will be enough for those years ahead to push things through smoothly and without stutter, and if all these software updates will eat up more and more (of it's limited 6GB) memory.
I know that I'm probably overthinking this, but seeing how the prices are quite similar (with A52s being around ~30$ cheaper), in your opinion, which of these two would you take if you wish for a that will last you as long as possible?
IMO only the hardware specs are decisive. The OS at any time can get changed.
So some reviewers are saying the S22 line gets hot when doing extensive tasks or gaming. I know this was a huge concern on the S21 line because the Snapdragon 888 ran very hot but Samsung seemed to do well cooling it down. The Moto X30 with the same chipset is said to be getting very hot. There is already talk of Qualcomm quickly replacing the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 with a Plus model produced by TSMC for better efficiency. I'm hoping Samsung beefed up cooling measures and this is a non issue.
Wait a few months for the dust to settle.
I'm seeing warning signs already with this model.
Time will tell.
Either way though it lacks expandable storage and that automatically red flags it for me.
I can't speak for mine as I haven't received it yet. I have one of these to help mitigate that possibility.
Spigen Cryo Armor
Guyinlaca said:
So some reviewers are saying the S22 line gets hot when doing extensive tasks or gaming. I know this was a huge concern on the S21 line because the Snapdragon 888 ran very hot but Samsung seemed to do well cooling it down. The Moto X30 with the same chipset is said to be getting very hot. There is already talk of Qualcomm quickly replacing the Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 with a Plus model produced by TSMC for better efficiency. I'm hoping Samsung beefed up cooling measures and this is a non issue.
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Snapdragon SoC's have been manufactured in Samsung and TSMC Foundries. Given a choice stick with TSMC, it's got the right stuff!
I’ve had the phone for 3 days and everything seems great so far. Given that Samsung produced the chips, they likely implemented a strong cooling method as well.
Samsung acknowledges Galaxy S22 Ultra display bug - but promises a fix is coming
Apparently it's easy to replicate
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LMFAO, only on exy. What a POS chip. Why do they even bother?
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LMFAO, only on exy. What a POS chip. Why do they even bother?
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Heard they was only getting 35% yields and foundry execs tried to hide it from corporate. Yes they should call it quits and use the Snapdragon version for all countries next release. They are way behind the competition when it comes to making quality phone chips.
Low yield on Samsung's 4nm process node prompts Qualcomm to go with TSMC for future chips
Traditionally, Qualcomm has partnered with either TSMC or Samsung Foundry for its chip manufacturing needs. However, it turns out the latter is experiencing yield issues on its...
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Hope it's not a stupid question. But I would like to understand why adopting a processor made by TSMC should lead to less thermal throttling respect a processor manufactured by Samsung. I would like to delve into the question and really understand what the problem is. Because as a noob I think that Samsung simply uses a very poor quality silicon. But it can't just be that, and as an noob I think it's the very structure of different processor. But as a stupid it seems impossible to me because an engineer at Samsung and an engineer at TSMC should have the same design skills, so realistically those who create processors or any other component for smartphones or PCs must use the same machines if not industries to produce the components. And among other things, I think that the structure of the processor cannot vary enormously, also because the design of the processor is studied by Qualcomm and the snap 8gen1 cannot differ enormously in structure by snap 8gen1 plus. Because it's just a plus ".
I hope I haven't asked too stupid a question but I would really like to understand why Qualcomm's latest processors suffer from thermal throttling. And it seems absurd to me that they simply pass by Samsung at TSMC solves this question.So I would like a satisfactory answer and I don't care if you get into complicated speeches that I wouldn't understand. Because I want to understand them thanks.
All of this angers me, because I wish the problem was simply software optimization.Because at least that can be bridged by smart amateur developers. But if the problem is technical and structural and Switching from Samsung to TSMC will upset things, honestly I it would make a lot of anger. Why is it wrong to play with customers' money.
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I live in Eastern Europe and currently I have a choice to buy Exinos version (S908B) or the snap version designated for the Asia/Africa region (S908E/DS). As I understand differences this year are relatively minor, and single digit performance diff is not an issue per se for me. But camera is the main reason I'm buying this phone, and I don't want to make a mistake.
So I'm leaning towards the snapdragon version. But it is not a version sold in US (S908U) that are covered in most Youtube reviews, but the version for Asia/Africa (S908E). I wasn't able to find online much info about the differences between the two, so I'm a bit concerned.
Could you please help me with these 2 questions:
1. What are the exact differences between different snap versions, specifically S908U vs S908E (or S908E/DS which just adds dual sim afaik)? Especially in the camera department, can I assume they will have identical quality?
2. Now after several months after the release, what are the differences between Exinos vs Snapdragon specifically in camera quality (both photos & videos)? Do you still recommend snap for ultimate image/video quality, or is it now mostly a tossup?
Could anybody please help? :|
I have the S908E/DS. The phone works great, battery life and camera are ok.
Pre installed apps are from Google and Microsoft and Netflix. No Facebook (that's a plus for me)
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Could anybody please help? :|
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I have the Exynos and to be honest I couldn't tell a difference. And reviews are splited, in some areas Snap is better in others Exy is better but the differences are marginal. Both are great and you are the only one that can decide if a slight better camera (and I mean very slight) worth the hussle and the lack of warranty from your local official Samsung service network because this is what you'll get.
Tx8821 said:
Hi!
I live in Eastern Europe and currently I have a choice to buy Exinos version (S908B) or the snap version designated for the Asia/Africa region (S908E/DS). As I understand differences this year are relatively minor, and single digit performance diff is not an issue per se for me. But camera is the main reason I'm buying this phone, and I don't want to make a mistake.
So I'm leaning towards the snapdragon version. But it is not a version sold in US (S908U) that are covered in most Youtube reviews, but the version for Asia/Africa (S908E). I wasn't able to find online much info about the differences between the two, so I'm a bit concerned.
Could you please help me with these 2 questions:
1. What are the exact differences between different snap versions, specifically S908U vs S908E (or S908E/DS which just adds dual sim afaik)? Especially in the camera department, can I assume they will have identical quality?
2. Now after several months after the release, what are the differences between Exinos vs Snapdragon specifically in camera quality (both photos & videos)? Do you still recommend snap for ultimate image/video quality, or is it now mostly a tossup?
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With all the problems reported by users with the Exynos it's an easy decision, aquire the Snapdragon device. Better yet wait for the S23, all models will have the Snapdragon SoC.