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The 13 pro max has been getting universal accolades for its incredible SOT and 2-3 day battery life. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the new S22 Ultra with its new LTPO efficient display should wipe the floor with the 13 Pro Max.
What's everybody's expectation? Will the S22 Ultra finally close the gap and maybe even exceed it or are we doomed to constantly debloating and finding that one hidden Samsung or google feature/ app that keeps sucking the juice from our phone endlessly?
I can't wait to get my hands on my S22 Ultra. I currently have an iPhone 13 Pro Max which is awesome battery wise. I wish I could keep the iPhone for comparisons but Im using it for trade in value. I will add my notes and comparisons as soon as I have it
dj24 said:
The 13 pro max has been getting universal accolades for its 2-3 day SOT. On paper and looking at the battery specs- the new S22 Ultra with its new LTPO efficient display should wipe the floor with the 13 Pro Max.
What's everybody's expectation? Will the S22 Ultra finally close the gap and maybe even exceed it or are we doomed to constantly debloating and finding that one hidden Samsung or google feature/ app that keeps sucking the juice from our phone endlessly?
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lol, 2 to 3 day SOT? That's literally not possible.
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lol, 2 to 3 day SOT? That's literally not possible.
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Lol. You're right. I meant 2-3 days of battery life. Edited my post.
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Lol. You're right. I meant 2-3 days of battery life. Edited my post.
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Yes, credit where credit is due. Apple has fantastic battery life. But I'd say for most people it's around a day and a half which is still incredible. The only downside is... well its Apple and were missing out on a lot of features from the Galaxy. Looking forward to the Ultras battery review.
Reviews for the S22 Ultra are starting to trickle in and battery life is surprisingly disappointing even just comparing it to last year's S21 Ultra. Suffice to say it will not get anywhere close to the 13 Pro Max.
Galaxy S22 Ultra battery life can’t match iPhone 13 Pro Max
A Galaxy S22 Ultra battery life test shows the new Samsung flagship is no match for the iPhone 13 Pro Max - or the S21 Ultra.
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This is truly disappointing since I remember Samsung was trolling iPhone users a few years back in their ads calling them 'wall huggers' and telling them to make the switch. How times have changed..
There is no doubt about the optimization in iPhone due to A15 chip and as some Youtubers call it, black magic on the battery by Apple, we tend to overlook the fact that iOS absolutely freezes background tasks and that's one big disadvantage when you want to upload media in the background and browse some websites. Another factor is fast charging, with the iP13PM taking almost 2 hours to charge to 100% v/s S22U taking an hour. I'd rather go with a phone that can multitask and top up faster that a restrictive and dated OS.
linom said:
There is no doubt about the optimization in iPhone due to A15 chip and as some Youtubers call it, black magic on the battery by Apple, we tend to overlook the fact that iOS absolutely freezes background tasks and that's one big disadvantage when you want to upload media in the background and browse some websites. Another factor is fast charging, with the iP13PM taking almost 2 hours to charge to 100% v/s S22U taking an hour. I'd rather go with a phone that can multitask and top up faster that a restrictive and dated OS.
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Thanks for sharing that. The first one is slightly concerning especially if that's the same case for downloading and not just for uploading as well. My N20 Ultra takes about 2 hours from completely dead to full status which doesn't bother me since I prefer slow charging instead to lengthen its battery life (I know that's not really true but I've convinced myself that )
My go to source for battery life reviews is gsmarena. They're currently reviewing it and depending on the outcome I'll decide what I'll do. My order from Feb 10 still shows as pending and if the review posts first and the results are disappointing, I'll cancel my order. If it ships, I'll most likely keep it since Samsung is giving me a more than fair value for my N20 Ultra and trade it in for the hopefully notchless upcoming 14 Pro Max.
I'll let fate decide
Also bear in mind that the last Note (N20 Ultra) SD variant had almost 1 hour longer SOT/ better camera pics/ better heat management compared to its Exynos counterpart (multiple reviews confirmed this including mrwhosetheboss).
A decent custom kernel may help boost SOT/ standby time (e.g. arter97 kernel for my OnePlus 7T Pro did wonders).
Dunno what's going on.... the performance / battery figures and tests that are getting done
Some are coming out as being at or above 8Gen1 on antutu/3dmark ... some are coming in barely the same as S21U exynos.
Battery tests are coming out worse than S21U exynos ... just seems to be a nightmare of inconsistent tests.
I really hope they've shipped with wrong firmware or something is amiss as at the moment it just looks terrible for Samsung coming out worse than their own previous flagship
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<< exynos showing really high
<< Battery showing worse than S21U
<< S22 showing bad
Try turning off all power management... destroyer of worlds.
Go after the battery and/or bandwidth hogs on a case by case basis. Tone them down.
Cloud storage apps are trouble.
Disable carrier, Google, app and Samsung feedback. Disable Google Firebase.
To temporarily neuter Google disable Google play Services... see if that helps.
With Samsung a lot depends on how or if it's optimized. Android 12 isn't a pretty picture though... cpu cycle sucking scoped storage run is fully active.
blackhawk said:
Try turning off all power management... destroyer of worlds.
Go after the battery and/or bandwidth hogs on a case by case basis. Tone them down.
Cloud storage apps are trouble.
Disable carrier, Google, app and Samsung feedback. Disable Google Firebase.
To temporarily neuter Google disable Google play Services... see if that helps.
With Samsung a lot depends on how or if it's optimized. Android 12 isn't a pretty picture though... cpu cycle sucking scoped storage run is fully active.
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I don't have the phone -- just discussion
But you're right -- Android 12 is a real disaster in terms of performance .... really bad on my S21U ... it's got really slow since upgrade
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Try turning off all power management... destroyer of worlds.
Go after the battery and/or bandwidth hogs on a case by case basis. Tone them down.
Cloud storage apps are trouble.
Disable carrier, Google, app and Samsung feedback. Disable Google Firebase.
To temporarily neuter Google disable Google play Services... see if that helps.
With Samsung a lot depends on how or if it's optimized. Android 12 isn't a pretty picture though... cpu cycle sucking scoped storage run is fully active.
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if i turn off all these things, what's the use of an expensive phone like this?
No thanks!
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Try turning off all power management... destroyer of worlds.
Go after the battery and/or bandwidth hogs on a case by case basis. Tone them down.
Cloud storage apps are trouble.
Disable carrier, Google, app and Samsung feedback. Disable Google Firebase.
To temporarily neuter Google disable Google play Services... see if that helps.
With Samsung a lot depends on how or if it's optimized. Android 12 isn't a pretty picture though... cpu cycle sucking scoped storage run is fully active.
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so basically disable everything and use it as a 1990 phone LOL
I've got Android 12 on my Oneplus 7 pro and I really love i. Good battery life and very smooth with android 12 goodies. I believe all those issues (if they really exist for everyone) will be fixed with the update(s).
tim2london said:
so basically disable everything and use it as a 1990 phone LOL
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Enjoy your hand warmer...
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Enjoy your hand warmer...
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luxury accessory 2022
highlightshadow said:
Dunno what's going on.... the performance / battery figures and tests that are getting done
Some are coming out as being at or above 8Gen1 on antutu/3dmark ... some are coming in barely the same as S21U exynos.
Battery tests are coming out worse than S21U exynos ... just seems to be a nightmare of inconsistent tests.
I really hope they've shipped with wrong firmware or something is amiss as at the moment it just looks terrible for Samsung coming out worse than their own previous flagship
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<< Battery showing worse than S21U
<< S22 showing bad
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Interesting that all the middling reviews are from the Exynos variant. I haven't seen one that has these performance issues with the Snapdragon version... Sigh... Once again two different phones IMO. Luckily Indonesian gets the Snapdragon version this year.
My note 10+ is on A12, zero bugs, battery is ok...
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My note 10+ is on A12, zero bugs, battery is ok...
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No performance issues either.
I'm waiting for my green S22 Ultra Snapdragon variant. So far it seems that most of the reviews on YouTube is for the Exynos variant.
For what it's worth, poor camera review for S22U Exynos variant @ DXOmark - outperformed by some phones almost 2 years old.......
This is the final nail in the coffin for me and samsung --- Exynos is a failed experiment for them -- it needs to go --- treating some big markets with an repeatedly inferior device, poor peformance in both gaming and camera but charging every bit as much (or more) than many other markets ... Done with Samsung
And now this:
Samsung Galaxy S22+ and S22 Ultra's 45W charging doesn't really make a difference
Samsung is so far behind the competition when it comes to charging speeds it can barely see it in the distance. Samsung’s Galaxy S22 series finally brought...
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Not looking good.
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And now this:
Samsung Galaxy S22+ and S22 Ultra's 45W charging doesn't really make a difference
Samsung is so far behind the competition when it comes to charging speeds it can barely see it in the distance. Samsung’s Galaxy S22 series finally brought...
m.gsmarena.com
Not looking good.
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There is a slight chance that they might have been using the older 45W charger instead of the newer version for this test. I say slight because Gsmarena are usually very through and don't make these kinds of oversights. Either way it's another bad look for Samsung if they're repeating the same fiasco from the Note 10 days..
I gues this is once again kind of a misscommunication from samsung - at least getting hopes to high on what to achieve with a 45Watt Charger...
Looking at the provided charts it seems that the benefits oh higher charging speed take place between 10% and roughly 65% of the battery level.
Afterwards it falls back on the same levels as a 25 Watt Charger. Which is, from a "longlivity" point of view, quiet understandable.
I’ve had the US Snapdragon model for 3 days and have had no performance issues whatsoever. In fact data speeds and smoothness are the best part about the phone.
So, friends I have a question. My situation is that I own a note 10+, screens is a little damaged so I'm looking for a replacement, the deal is that the note 20U is a already 2 years old hardware, I'm quite interested in a bit of overall upgrade like 120hz, cameras and battery life. The deal is that this is my current prices : 1055 dollars for the note 20U and 1258 dollars for the S22 ultra. My choices are exynos 990 for the note and snapdragon for the S22, so what is your opinion folks? Does the S22 justify its 200 bucks more? Will the note 20U be worth enough for a few years? Thanks for any info or opinion! I always root and put a custom firmware from XDA in any of them.
The note20U was a great phone for me, but S22U sd is def worth the upgrade.
Trade in the note. Samsung gave me $475 for my note 9 and free hd upgrade (256gb for price of 128)
I believe it's still available.
E398 said:
So, friends I have a question. My situation is that I own a note 10+, screens is a little damaged so I'm looking for a replacement, the deal is that the note 20U is a already 2 years old hardware, I'm quite interested in a bit of overall upgrade like 120hz, cameras and battery life. The deal is that this is my current prices : 1055 dollars for the note 20U and 1258 dollars for the S22 ultra. My choices are exynos 990 for the note and snapdragon for the S22, so what is your opinion folks? Does the S22 justify its 200 bucks more? Will the note 20U be worth enough for a few years? Thanks for any info or opinion! I always root and put a custom firmware from XDA in any of them.
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If you're going to root & keep the phone for several years,the age of the phone is moot,if both are brand new.
Both will be supported by ROM developers for a long time, especially the Note20 Ultra,given that it's the last flagship w/an SD Card slot.
If you value the Micro SD Card slot,the Note20 Ultra makes more sense. The S22 Ultra,on paper,is a better spec'd phone,but,in real world use, you'd be hard pressed to notice.
I have both,&:TBH, I wish I'd returned the S22 Ultra during the buyer's remorse period & saved the $$$$.
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Trade in the note. Samsung gave me $475 for my note 9 and free hd upgrade (256gb for price of 128)
I believe it's still available.
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Can't trade in, but will pass the phone to my dad since he still with my old Droid Turbo which is old af.
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If you're going to root & keep the phone for several years,the age of the phone is moot,if both are brand new.
Both will be supported by ROM developers for a long time, especially the Note20 Ultra,given that it's the last flagship w/an SD Card slot.
If you value the Micro SD Card slot,the Note20 Ultra makes more sense. The S22 Ultra,on paper,is a better spec'd phone,but,in real world use, you'd be hard pressed to notice.
I have both,&:TBH, I wish I'd returned the S22 Ultra during the buyer's remorse period & saved the $$$$.
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I see, really on paper it looks interesting. I was very tempted with the cameras and with that 120hz screen which I don't mind much the 20U being only fullhd. I don't mind much the SD slot but I'm gonna get some extra space if I get the 20U.
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I see, really on paper it looks interesting. I was very tempted with the cameras and with that 120hz screen which I don't mind much the 20U being only fullhd. I don't mind much the SD slot but I'm gonna get some extra space if I get the 20U.
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There's a mod (root not necessary) to enable both QHD+ &120hz:
[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Mods Change default refresh rates -Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates. -Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery...
forum.xda-developers.com
Either phone is nice, there's always going to be some incremental improvement from year to year.
That's why I focused on the expandable storage, it's the biggest distinction between the two.
Outside of that, it's just a matter of if you think the newer of the two is worth the extra $$$.
You can't go wrong with either one....
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There's a mod (root not necessary) to enable both QHD+ &120hz:
[App]Galaxy Max Hz (Refresh Rate Mods, Screen-off Mods, QS Tiles, Tasker Support and More)
About this app: Refresh Rate Mods Change default refresh rates -Easily change the overall refresh rate settings of devices supporting multiple refresh rates. -Set supported mid refresh rates as the maximum refresh rate limit for battery...
forum.xda-developers.com
Either phone is nice, there's always going to be some incremental improvement from year to year.
That's why I focused on the expandable storage, it's the biggest distinction between the two.
Outside of that, it's just a matter of if you think the newer of the two is worth the extra $$$.
You can't go wrong with either one....
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Dem, I thought it was impossible for the note 20u. Quite interesting! Maybe I will stick with the 20u, the difference gets me a galaxy watch 4 classic at least.
E398 said:
Dem, I thought it was impossible for the note 20u. Quite interesting! Maybe I will stick with the 20u, the difference gets me a galaxy watch 4 classic at least.
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There's this as well:
Get 120hz with QHD on Note 20 Ultra - Thetecheaven
If you are having a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra, then here is a detailed tutorial on how to get 120hz refresh rate with qhd resolution
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There's this as well:
Get 120hz with QHD on Note 20 Ultra - Thetecheaven
If you are having a Galaxy Note 20 Ultra, then here is a detailed tutorial on how to get 120hz refresh rate with qhd resolution
thetecheaven.com
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Nice, which one would you recommend? It seems like the note 20 has quite the tricks.
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Nice, which one would you recommend? It seems like the note 20 has quite the tricks.
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I'm currently using the ADB command.
Maybe it's just me,but,trying to distinguish between 1080 & 1440 ,side by side,the real world usage difference is very minimal at best.
Perhaps,in some use cases, it's more noticeable,but, I'll be the 1st to admit that 1440 was an enticement a couple years ago & I still have a FOMO if it's not on the spec sheet.
At least with either mod,you don't have to choose,or,just get the S22 Ultra & choose both 1440 & 120hz in the native display settings.
If you're still on the fence, I'd poke around in both forums & take it from there.
I went from the S20+ to the S22 Ultra. I was quite pleased with the S20+, but I got a sweet deal to upgrade to the S22 Ultra. I do not regret the move. Although a lot of posts are present about issues (especially with the non-Snapdragon version), I have had no problems. To be honest, every new phone has issues and usually before the year is out, they are resolved (sometimes bringing new problems). This is across all manufacturers.
People complain about not having root, but to be honest, I used to root my phones mainly to debloat them. This was the time the providers liked to put a lot of games and other nonsense on our phones. Currently, there is very little provider added stuff. Still a lot of Manufacturer stuff depending on what you want to use from them (like Smasung's stuff). Google also adds a lot of items. With 12 GB of system RAM, I can disable the items I do not want to use and then they use no resources other than the space they are loaded on. If you root the Samsung device, knox will be broken and not recoverable. This will cause you to lose the capability to use some of Samsung's features (Samsung Pay and Health).
The EU variant got a new load, and most posts say how good they are now. The Snapdragon has always run well. Do not get me wrong, I know there are lemons in any manufacturing line, but I think people are getting their expectations set way too high for each device release. There is no perfect device or ROM.
I have been around since the old analog phones, and we have seen so much improvement over the years. Do I wish we had more control over our phone? Of course. The manufacturer's mainly lock the phones to control them, so they do not have to put up with people messing them up. There are very smart people out there and root probably will come to the S22's. That should make a lot of people happy (and sad when they brick their device).
Which device you choose will be a good choice. If the lack of an SD card bothers you, then get the S20. I looked over the actual space I was using on my S20 with a 64GB SD card, and I was not using much of it at all (but I do not store everything in my life on my phone). So I opted for the 256GM model and am quite happy.
When do we get the one ui 5.0 for the s22 ultra snapdragon? Plus what are u guys expecting to get with it ? Personally i want more battery . Why can iphones get 10sot with 4300 mh and we get 4 to 5 sot with 5000 mh
We'll sometime this fall or early winter.
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When do we get the one ui 5.0 for the s22 ultra snapdragon?
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We'll get it sometime this fall or early winter.
Iyad22 said:
Plus what are u guys expecting to get with it ? Personally i want more battery . Why can iphones get 10sot with 4300 mh and we get 4 to 5 sot with 5000 mh
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Because you can actually do stuff with an S22 Ultra. iPhones are just expensive, overrated toys.
I am on the beta for both my S22 Ultra and my S22. So far I am liking it.Battery life is pretty good. Have only had my S22 Ultra since last Thursday but the first thing I did after set up was enroll it in the beta and when I did, it downloaded beta 2 since that is what had been released that day.
Both devices are T-Mobile Snapdragon 128GB models.
Recent iphones have good battery because they aggressively kill apps in the background. One difference is that they provide services for notification delivery through the OS so notifications still go through even if the app is hibernating.
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We'll sometime this fall or early winter.
We'll get it sometime this fall or early winter.
Because you can actually do stuff with an S22 Ultra. iPhones are just expensive, overrated toys.
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True i agree i have a 13 pro max too and the first thing comes to my mind is how boring it is
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I am on the beta for both my S22 Ultra and my S22. So far I am liking it.Battery life is pretty good. Have only had my S22 Ultra since last Thursday but the first thing I did after set up was enroll it in the beta and when I did, it downloaded beta 2 since that is what had been released that day.
Both devices are T-Mobile Snapdragon 128GB models.
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I wont enroll in the beta im waiting for the official version. But glad to know they did some battery improvement
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Recent iphones have good battery because they aggressively kill apps in the background. One difference is that they provide services for notification delivery through the OS so notifications still go through even if the app is hibernating.
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I rather have good battery then anything else tho . I have to keep my s22 ultra in 60hz and sometimes even 720 to get throw my day . And the best feature they added is to pause charging while gaming that helped alot
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I rather have good battery then anything else tho . I have to keep my s22 ultra in 60hz and sometimes even 720 to get throw my day . And the best feature they added is to pause charging while gaming that helped alot
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If that is the case I suggest you to check which apps you are running, disable background services and put them all into deep sleep mode. That will help more than using a lower resolution and refresh rate.
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True i agree i have a 13 pro max too and the first thing comes to my mind is how boring it is
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I am using both phones. The 13 Pro max battery life compliments the refined apps and user experience albeit the complete absence of multitasking and versatility specially office work. What's the rationale behind using the most powerful SoC in the World? To drive what?!!
Samsung proved that they are capable of creating solid OS more stable than Google itself BUT lacks the quality of life enhancements available in the iphone such as keychain and the numerous privacy features, high quality optimized apps, etc.
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If that is the case I suggest you to check which apps you are running, disable background services and put them all into deep sleep mode. That will help more than using a lower resolution and refresh rate.
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I cant disable google services because then nothing else works like youtube and maps and stuff . Im planning to factory reset it now because i switched with smart switch from my s21 ultra which used to get 6 to 7 sot with 120hz and mostly 1440p
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I am using both phones. The 13 Pro max battery life compliments the refined apps and user experience albeit the complete absence of multitasking and versatility specially office work. What's the rationale behind using the most powerful SoC in the World? To drive what?!!
Samsung proved that they are capable of creating solid OS more stable than Google itself BUT lacks the quality of life enhancements available in the iphone such as keychain and the numerous privacy features, high quality optimized apps, etc.
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There is only 2 things lacking samsung now .. battery and better optimization with apps . Thats it
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I am using both phones. The 13 Pro max battery life compliments the refined apps and user experience albeit the complete absence of multitasking and versatility specially office work. What's the rationale behind using the most powerful SoC in the World? To drive what?!!
Samsung proved that they are capable of creating solid OS more stable than Google itself BUT lacks the quality of life enhancements available in the iphone such as keychain and the numerous privacy features, high quality optimized apps, etc.
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*yawn*
The iPhone is about as exciting as Jason Mamoa's TV show.
Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .
I'd say wait for the s23.
As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.
I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.
I'd say I love Samsung hardware but I'm not huge fan of OneUI. If Samsung release ever like Google Play edition of Galaxy S22 Ultra, Note design then it will be best device for long term.
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I don't understand all the battery hate. I make it through the day easily with usually 50% left. It's all user dependent I guess or there's a shatload of bad batteries floating around. Just switch off the majority of not needed Google wizardry and don't game non stop and your good to go.
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The battery hate is because there are so many devices that do so much better. Also sometimes the phone just decides to start using way more battery than previous trends doing the same things it was doing before.
Sure but it's a mixed bag with different experiences per user. My psp7 runs about 50% longer than my Note 20 ultra with the same kind of usage.
P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro
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P7P stock kernel doesn't seem to be very good in delivering/managing power usage. Sometimes the device heat up simply because i run YT Music. But some other days, it survives hours of screen time morning to night. I always check what run on BG when the device heat up, and it's nothing, really, it just that the device decide to run on higher freq for no good reason.
If you bought this phone, one thing you might want to do is using custom Kernel. I didn't do so because apparently i gonna need to wipe my phone to do first kernel flash. Which is a big turn off.
If you dont feel comfy about flashing and elses, i'd say, wait for S23 or Xiaomi 13 Pro
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This is a fact! With the stock Kernel, I was using CPU Mintor daily to check my temps which typically ran above 30 C. Usually in the mid-30's. Over 40 when charging.
With the Kirasakura I usually run about 26-28 C.
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As much as I *hate* Samsung, the S23 Ultra will almost surely have better battery life.
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I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.
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Looking to purchase 7 Pro had samsung , oneplus , xioami . At moment im on s21 Ultra which i have had since release don't know whether wait for 23 ultra or pick up 7 Pro. main thing for me is battery life . on my s21 ultra i would get day and half with 6hrs s.o.t .
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Stay away from it for now!I just purchased one myself,and sent it back because it overheats like crazy!Don't get me wrong,the performance is there but that face burning battery was enough for me...lol
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I wouldn't bet on it , personally. My P7P has considerably better battery life than my brothers S22 Ultra (UK Exynos model). It also has better battery life than my old S21 Ultra had, and the S21 Ultra is known to have better battery life than the S22 Ultra.
Unless the upcoming S23 Ultra brings something new to the table to improve the battery life over the previous two generations, I can see it being about the same.
The question for me shouldn't be about battery life, which overall on most flagships now is relatively similar, rather how happy are you with Sumsung's UI and how important an S-Pen is, which will certainly be included again. Camera will be a little better than the P7P (especially with zoom). I've already gone on record that the P7P isn't worth an upgrade from the S21 Ultra and if mine hadn't been broken and unrepairable I would still have it.
Stick with the S21 Ultra would be my advice and see if the S23 Ultra bring something new. Unless you want Android in its vanilla form, in which case the P7P is definitely worth a look, especially given its about 25% cheaper than a Samsung flagship.
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Well the S23 Ultra is using Snapdragon chips worldwide and the TSMC-produced 8 Gen 2 is looking like an efficiency beast. I hear you on the Samsung UI and I'm also not too excited to lose root but the S23 Ultra could be a great device to jump to if people are tired of being tied to the charger with the Pixel (both due to the slow charging speed and the poor battery endurance on mobile data, particularly 5G). Samsung also always saves the best displays for themselves.
I have a S22 plus and just got the Pixel 7 Pro on sale.
Obviously the Ultra is a lot different than the plus. I have no need for a spen on a phone. I am not a fan of curved screens either but I took a gamble because of the sale price and I really like vanilla android.
The text to speech is pretty amazing. The screen is also nicer than the S22 plus stuck at 1080p.
Battery life right out the box and installing and updating and syncing seems pretty good so far. Definitely better than my S22 plus.
I think the big difference is cost. The Ultra even with a recent trade in is almost as expensive as this device is on sale with no trade. That is a pretty significant factor to me.
The s23 Ultra will be a better phone no doubt. Samsung has the hardware on lock and the new 8 gen 2 even on Samsung fab should be a pretty significant upgrade.
However Google works magic with Pixel phones and slower processors so I don't think there will be a big difference in day to day use.
It really depends what you prioritize and like best. If you like OneUI and the absolute best hardware then hands down get the Samsung. Samsung Galaxy devices are some of the best and if the S22 plus had quad hd I might say get that instead but with the better screen and bigger battery the Ultra is best.
However if you like Google services, great AI features, decent camera, fast updates and good battery life and cost is a factor then the Pixel is a really great choice.
Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.
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Having used both the S21 Ultra and Pixel 7 Pro, the S21 Ultra has both better battery life and performance overall. The only reasons to switch would be for the cleaner software experience, better camera, and slightly smaller size. I agree, wait for the S23 Ultra.
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Is that S21 Ultra on Exynos or Snapdragon? For me in the UK on Exynos, the S21 Ultra absolutely did not have superior battery life to what I get on the P7P. And various reports I saw at the time said that, whilst the Snapdragon S21 Ultra was the better phone for performance, for battery life the Exynos was better. Although I can't confirm as I never had the SD variant.
The Snapdragon S21 Ultra perhaps has the best battery life of any mainstream Android device, closely followed by the S22 Ultra then the Pixel 7 Pro. It could be that the S22 Ultra being on Verizon and the S21 Ultra being on T-Mobile played a role. The 7 Pro is a good improvement over the 6 Pro battery wise.