Hey Guys,
as the topic says, I would like to know your expierences about the scratch-resistance of the Nexus S glass.
I couldnt find anything on the net about it, only some screen protector tests, which isnt the point.
So what do you think? Is the surface pretty sensetive, should I buy a screen protector?
Greets
No scientific test here but I've had my phone for nearly a month and keep it in my pocket with no case or screen protector. I have minor scratches on the plastic back but my screen is still flawless.
Yeah I´ve read alot about the batterycase and that it scratches pretty fast! Im gonna visist my girlfriend in UK and want to buy the Nexus S there. Its only available at carphone warehouse am I right? Do they sell the white version already?
Haven't seen the white version here yet and yes only carphone warehouse sells it in the UK.
I do not own the Nexus S, but as far as I can tell from the internet, the display is from glass. That means it is as scratch-resistant as any other phone with a glass display. Yes, including phones with Gorilla Glass. Gorilla Glass only prevents the display from cracking.
The battery cover, however, is another story. Plastic has it advantages (lighter, better if you drop your phone), but you'll probably get a lot of micro-scratches over time. No big scratches, just a couple of little ones.
So my advise is: don't buy a screen protector. If you really want it, go for a super clear one, like a Seidio USG Crystal Clear. At least they don't mess with the displays colours and with the feel of the glass.
But you may consider protection for the plastic back. You could spray PlastiDip on your battery cover, buy a case or keep your phone in a pouch.
The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
Sent from my Nexus S
princeasi said:
The nexus s is very much sensitive to scratches. After having the phone for about a week, I noticed fine micro scratches. I'm very careful with my phone, so more than likely they came from taking it in and out of my pocket probably due to the rough fabric of my jeans. And no I don't keep any debris in my pocket while my phone is in there. My nexus one never developed those type of scratches and there were times when my N1 was placed in my pocket with coins! imho gorilla glass does make a world of difference when it comes to scratch resistance. The NS definitely needs a protector if you want to keep the screen pristine.
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I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.
Mine has not scratched on the screen at all. I typically leave it in my back jeans pocket. The black plastic has very tiny micro scratches that can only be seen at a certain angle from direct sunlight or fluorescent bulbs.
The only issue for me is the creakiness of the back cover. Whenever I press down on the plastic near the bottom and top sides of the phone it sounds like its crying out in pain =/
Androyed said:
If you get scratches with your Nexus S, and not with your Nexus One, then you are just being unlucky. Gorilla Glass has nothing to do with it. Besides, the Nexus One also hasn't got Gorilla Glass.
That YOU get scratches on your display, doesn't mean it scratches very easily. And that you're very careful with it, also isn't an argument: as I said, sometimes it's just bad luck.
Please, anyone who wants to know if the Nexus S scratches easily (the display), ignore those 'the Nexus S scratches very easily compared to another device' replies.
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I'm not gonna go back and forth with you on this topic but I will say this..... Honestly, I can care less about what happens to your device. Who ever chooses not to use a protector on their phone is their business, not mine! What I offered was my personal experience and advice to the one who asked for our input. Ok, so what if the N1 doesn't have gorilla glass. Whatever glass the N1 uses, is different from the NS and I know personally what happened to my NS and what didn't to my N1. I'm very finicky when it comes to scratches on my phones. Not once did I ever have to put a protector on my N1. Luck had nothing to do with my NS getting micro-scratches. It's has everything to do with the way the screen was manufactured and what rubbed against it through my everyday usage!
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kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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Quoted to reiterate the point. Glass I'd glass when it comes to scratches. Period.
Sent from 1.5GHz CM7 Nexus S.
EDIT: If you want a really scratch "resistent" (I say resistent because my wife is making me, I disagree) get someone to make a sapphire screen for your phone. Its common practice in high end watches and, as I own one, I can testify to its inability to scratch. I get quite a kick from taking some random very hard material and rubbing it against the face only to have it come out unscathed. The only issue that'd arise is if you scratched it with a diamond...then it would definitely scratch.
kenvan19 said:
I carried my NS in my pocket with my Zippo for a week and the screen never got scratched once. I'm having an issue seeing how a metal lighter case wouldn't scratch the screen but your jeans would? Unless your jeans are made of diamonds....
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I don't know exactly where the scratches came from. They could've gotten there from a hard dust particle rubbing against it while cleaning my screen. The scratches I had weren't deep scratches. They could only be seen at an angle when light hit it....If you're definitely sure of your screen, why don't you bless all of us with an uploaded personal video of the key test?!
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Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets
The scratches I'm speaking on are on the display screen.
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Robse86 said:
Lol guys come down .
So just to make it clear, the micro scratches on yr NS are on the back or on the display? Display right?
The point of my topic is just, that if I buy a nice phone like this I would like to use it as clean as possible, means only necessary accessories.
I had the Galaxy S before and Im gonna buy the NS now, before all of them the Desire. The problem is just that u always have to wrap the phone with stuff to make it "safer" and then u dont really see much of the design, the nice look of the phone, but it seems like this is just not possible right now .
Anyway I baught a silicon case so far, is there a good cheap screen protector on ebay or a brand u know?
And before I forget, I read that the NS has a "anti-fat" layer, so there arent really fat traces on the display, is this right? Would suck if yes, because its really annoying and I wouldnt like to lose this because of a screen protector .
Greets
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Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
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kenvan19 said:
Its suuuuuuuuper thin. I love it.
At the guy who got scratches on his screen. I still don't get it man. I cleaned my screen with a microfiber cloth two to three times a day before I got a screen protector. As I said, I carried it in my pocket with my lighter most times, but sometimes in the pocket with my change and still no scratches. Not to mention dropping it a few times. I just can't see how having it in your jeans could scratch it since I felt my lighter rub against my screen.
I'm not stupid though man, its f***ing glass. It'll scratch. But I've never seen glass scratch from jeans. Its just not nearly abrasive enough.
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Thin? The phone or the screen protector ? Well well then I have to buy a screen protector , is there a good one ?
I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.
princeasi said:
Then do a f**kin lighter test then. Rub that sh!t against your NS display screen and post the f**kin video lmmfao! Let us all see just how lighter resistant your NS is! That would be interesting to watch lolll!
Sent from my Nexus S
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Better yet why don't I do a jeans test to see how stupid you are.
big_adventure said:
I've had my NS for over a month. It has never seen a case. It's been in pants with keys, in pants with an un-cased iPhone 4, in pants with change, in jackets with keys and change, in a courrier bag with keys, change, a sharp metal mini-hard drive enclosure and dropped onto pavement a few times. The screen is absolutely scratch free.
There is a TINY bit of visible wear on the plastic back - especially at the very top and the very bottom, which are the leading edges when inserting and withdrawing it from a pocket.
One thing that has not been extensively examined so far - the "contour" display on the NS puts the entire face under more compression load when static, meaning that it will be MUCH harder to fracture, and therefore scratch, for a given strength of glass, since compression is where glass is strong.
Also, here is a little lesson on Gorilla Glass and any hardened glass. They are chemically treated to better resist surface flaws by creating compression in the surface of the glass. For Gorilla Glass, Corning starts with already-more-durable alumosilicate glass, and then uses their proprietary treatment it to better resist surface fracturing by penetrating more deeply than "traditional" glass hardening treatments on soda-lime glass - this means that, while you can still scratch it, the glass won't fracture as much around the contact, so you won't be able to see it as much. All of this is available on Corning's website.
For points of reference, here are my last 4 phones, their relative abuse states and what I saw out of them:
NS - one month+, hard use including travel, abuse my 2 and 3 year old kids, my daily high-speed bike commute over cobbled parisien streets, etc. Zero screen scratches. Oleophobic treatment seems to be holding up better than Apple's examples.
iPhone 4 - 4 months hard use as a phone, 2 more moderate use as a super-duper high-end iPod touch. Several very tiny scratches on the screen, and numerous tiny scratches on the back, then the screen shattered in the pocket of my jeans alone sometime on a transatlantic flight. I replaced the front and back with the "acquired" real Apple iPhone 4 white components someone stole out of Shenzen and sold through a site in NYC. One month light iPod use since, no marks.
N1 - 5 months as primary phone, then a 4 month break, then almost 2 more months as a phone when, battery be damned, I could no longer support the crappy mail and chat on the iPhone 4. It suffered very heavy use and abuse, including NUMEROUS hard drops and falls onto pavement and stone thanks to kids. The metal frame around the screen is VERY beaten up, and the edge has even cracked slightly on the screen from the compression around the metal edge, but the screen itself has no scratches.
Milestone (euro version of the Droid, complete with Gorilla Glass) - primary phone for about 3 months, and it had a long scratch down the face less than a month after buying it. But in this case, I know EXACTLY when it happened. It was in my wife's jacket pocket, and she gored it with diamond ring.
Finally, I don't think that anyone really KNOWS what glass is used in the Nexus S except for Samsung (and their provider, if there is one). I know that the Galaxy S, Epic, Vibrant, Continium, Captivate, and many other Samsung phones do use Corning's baby. I also know that many other products use it without mentioning it. I know that the iPhone claims not to, but that it does use some specially-treated alumosilicate glass.
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Robse86, listen to this guy. He knows what he is talking about. A screen protector isn't really necessary. That doesn't mean the screen can't be scratched, so don't blame us when it does scratch. You should consider a case, if you don't like the micro-scratches that often appear on the battery cover.
Anyway, listen to big_adventure.
My first gorilla glass device was a zune HD and it didn't have any noticeable scratches on it for a month, but after that there were some damn big noticeable ones. Now I've had my samsung infuse less than a month and it's got about 5 scratches, 3 of which are easily noticeable in most conditions. Is it just me or is gorilla glass complete bullcrap? Yes I'll admit I had an iPod touch for about 6 months and the screen NEVER scratched after all the drops, kicks, and touches. But it was a piece of crap and so is Crapple so I gave it to one of my friends who I think destroyed it for fun(lol).
My pockets never have ANYTHING in them, no money, no sand, no dirt, no keys, not even headphones. So why the hell is gorilla glass scratching like plastic? I swear the plastic case I got with it has only twice as many scratches.. Now every time I put my phone in my pocket I turn the pocket inside out and smack it a few times to get any hard-to-see particles out... but there's really nothing in my pockets. It's also got a few chips like someone poked it with a nail really hard.
I should also mention my friend with an atrix looks like someone stabbed it with a knife after only being in a pocket in a briefcase with a fabric wallet (no buttons or any metal edges).
nothing is perfect，i using screen protector on all my device.
i dont believe manufacturer
Yeah I'd have a screen protector on it but I need to wait until my friend gets his new job at this place with a clean room so there's no dust or any crap floating around, it's impossible to apply it in a house without dust getting on. I already wasted $10 on a pack of them, I'm not even going to order until I'm sure I can get somewhere with a clean room, maybe intel's manufacturing facility
Gorilla Glass =/ diamond?
Use a good quality Matte-finish screen protector or a tempered glass one. They are much less prone to scratches from fine particles. Ever used a device that was NOT gorilla glass They looked like a post-war battlefield in just a few weeks. Nothings perfect though, which is why even gorillas are prone to scratching
BTW Which device are you using?
I said samsung infuse but I didn't capitalize it because I'm lazy. lol
this morning it looked like someone had took sandpaper to butter... I HAD to run out, pseudo-cleanroom my bathroom, and put a screen protector on.
does anyone know if there is a way to buy a replacement screen that is gorilla glass? I've been given various links to sellers of s3 glass screens but none of them seem to be infact gorilla glass.
I am looking for the same, but i havent found any yet.
Frankly, who cares if it's gorilla glass. The replacement glass is ~$10-15 on ebay. Grab one, put a screen protector on it for ~$10 and you're set. Gorilla glass doesn't hold much weight in my book considering how easily it breaks and it wasn't entire scratch resistant either...assume you've found the same to be true if you're looking for a replacement...
Origianl S3 supposed 'gorilla glass' screen. Why bother?
Looks like you threw that out of a car.
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It actually fell out of my pocket (pants pocket - lower cargo pocket so about knee height) as I was getting it out.
Thing is, this was new years eve, and it had been sitting in my car for a number of hours. It landed on the edge of a concrete walkway, so it was uneven pressure when it hit.
And being as there was snow on the ground, it was really cold - the phone being in my car (off by the way) for those hours meant it was just as cold (and brittle) when it hit.
My 'why bother' comment was towards looking for gorilla glass instead of regular glass. The one time it would have mattered to me, it didn't. I'll cast a 'not impressed at all' vote on the gorilla glass aspect.
Far as i'm concerned, it's a sham product.
I think we have beat the tempered glass subject to death here... I removed my half-peeled off Tantek tempered glass protector and tried to apply a new one, didn't go so well, this one kept lifting right below the bottom speaker and I tried a little heat from a hair dryer (from a YT video) and it got worse instead of better... long story shortened, the new one is broken and went in the trash and my phone has no screen protector in it's Poetic Affinity case.
Are there any plastic film screen protectors that fit well and don't feel like cling wrap? Supershieldz seem to have mostly good reviews on Amazon, and 6 of them for $6 is pretty cheap.
Is it really worth it to use a simple film screen protector if it isn't tempered glass since we already have Gorilla Glass 3?
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I thought of this and ultimately decided on not using a screen protector at all after having no luck with tempered glass. Unless you're going for 5+ years of daily usage or live on the sand or use your phone as a cutting board, I don't really feel that they're necessary for anything other than accommodating for the massive and annoying lip that is found on many protective casings.
Realistically, how long does it take to scratch a screen up real bad? I had (and still have) a tempered glass protector on the Note 2 and only ended up with two small, minor scratches on it after nearly three years of daily use.
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I think we have beat the tempered glass subject to death here... I removed my half-peeled off Tantek tempered glass protector and tried to apply a new one, didn't go so well, this one kept lifting right below the bottom speaker and I tried a little heat from a hair dryer (from a YT video) and it got worse instead of better... long story shortened, the new one is broken and went in the trash and my phone has no screen protector in it's Poetic Affinity case.
Are there any plastic film screen protectors that fit well and don't feel like cling wrap? Supershieldz seem to have mostly good reviews on Amazon, and 6 of them for $6 is pretty cheap.
Is it really worth it to use a simple film screen protector if it isn't tempered glass since we already have Gorilla Glass 3?
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I would say that you should look at the old screen protector you removed and determine how scratched it was. Just a few after a year or more of usage, your probably fine running naked.
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I would say that you should look at the old screen protector you removed and determine how scratched it was. Just a few after a year or more of usage, your probably fine running naked.
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Yeah, it looked pretty good actually... Probably just going to go plain.
Been I using mine for a year and a half with no screen protector. Just an incipio octane case most of the time.
Can't see a single scratch even in bright light, at an angle, with the screen off. It has held up quite well.
I too have been thinking of going without a tempered glass. But a few times my phone drops on the screen side and then I thank my tempered glass. It's worth it for me, because if the screen breaks it will probably be very expensive to replace and I don't want to spend anything more than 2 dollars on my moto x style
I used to use zag screen protectors they make a plastic one that felt ok not great with my note 3 went to glass never looked back until the moto x pure but i don't think ill go back to plastic ill probably stick with glass and put up with the slight halo
i have had the best luck with pleson on my moto x i have scratched the glass protectors and my old pleason saved my screen. The biggest thing i don't like about this phone is the lack of good cases all of the cases suck and the otter box is poorly designed...
I have dropped getting a screen protector after getting a Galaxy S3.
Gorilla Glass is pretty tough, and I have had my Pure for probably 5-6 months now, and I do not see any noticeable scratches. Not that it is flawless, just a few very tiny scratches that I would not see unless if I looked very closely. Just go naked, and be careful when you're near sand.
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I have dropped getting a screen protector after getting a Galaxy S3.
Gorilla Glass is pretty tough, and I have had my Pure for probably 5-6 months now, and I do not see any noticeable scratches. Not that it is flawless, just a few very tiny scratches that I would not see unless if I looked very closely. Just go naked, and be careful when you're near sand.
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Yep. Sand is a pristine screen killer. I really have no choice since I live in a coastal city. Sand is everywhere and needless to say, my glass screen protectors scratch up very noticeably within a year (doesn't matter the brand either). I baby my phones even with a sturdy case so it is not neglect on my part. I typically use a holster as well so that sand that may be trapped in my pocket cannot do a number on my screen protectors.