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hi, i really want to downgrade my S6 to lollipop but i have one of the latest bootloader (DPFX).
Downgrade was perfectly possible when i was on first build of marshmallow, but now, since i upgraded to DPFX bootloader, i have only fails with odin, and bootloops with custom roms...
is there any solution? if only i could flash an older bootloader, then i will be saved.
but if i flash an old bootloader with odin, i have a fail, so i don't know what to do
Some people suggested to me to use an old TWRP backup and i found it on my pc (with all partitions files: bootloader,system,radio and data, but i didn't use data) but using it, it's the same of flashing a custom rom: bootloop, and i suspect that the old bootloader never was flashed.
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cescof said:
hi, i really want to downgrade my S6 to lollipop but i have one of the latest bootloader (DPFX).
Downgrade was perfectly possible when i was on first build of marshmallow, but now, since i upgraded to DPFX bootloader, i have only fails with odin, and bootloops with custom roms...
is there any solution? if only i could flash an older bootloader, then i will be saved.
but if i flash an old bootloader with odin, i have a fail, so i don't know what to do
Some people suggested to me to use an old TWRP backup and i found it on my pc (with all partitions files: bootloader,system,radio and data, but i didn't use data) but using it, it's the same of flashing a custom rom: bootloop, and i suspect that the old bootloader never was flashed.
help
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If you are on a newer mm bootloader then downgrading to lollipop is not possible
sofir786 said:
If you are on a newer mm bootloader then downgrading to lollipop is not possible
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I knew this, but i want to know if there is a way, a not official way, like reinstalling bootloader in a forced way that doesn't care about security problems... this thing has no sense.... why totally prevent to downgrade? However, i thing it's NORMALLY impossible, but not
TOTALLY impossible
cescof said:
I knew this, but i want to know if there is a way, a not official way, like reinstalling bootloader in a forced way that doesn't care about security problems... this thing has no sense.... why totally prevent to downgrade? However, i thing it's NORMALLY impossible, but not
TOTALLY impossible
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As far as I know if you're on a newer bootloader official or not there is no current method to downgrade. Maybe a phone shop has specialist equipment to do this but that's me taking a shot in the air
I was able to downgrade but not because i wanted, i flashed a corrupt firmware with ODIN and i have to do an emergency recovery with Smart Switch, my carrier doesn't have Marshmallow on the S6 so my phone restored in Lollipop
I prefer the speed and performance of marshmallow on the S7. Where are the correct files I should flash in Odin and which version of Odin should I be using to flash Android 6?
So apparently the camera isn't working after downgrade to 6?
Not something I'm willing to deal with unless the issue has been solved.
You can't downgrade snapdragon S7 models (G930U/T/V/A/P) due to the locked bootloader
Any downgrading would only work on the G930F with OEM unlock
Help root or downgrade or both?
Beanvee7 said:
You can't downgrade snapdragon S7 models (G930U/T/V/A/P) due to the locked bootloader
Any downgrading would only work on the G930F with OEM unlock
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I have a sm-g930u factory unlocked and Im also trying to get all i need to downgrade from oreo which is havoc on my battery and i dont know if its better to downgrade to laterst nougat or root it and take care of bloatware to help battery drain yet the problem will persist which is that the upgrade is designed for s8 and s9 with octacore processor and the s7 is working harder with a quad core so temp will always be hotter than before and slower than with nougat . Any help with proper step by step in downgrading my factory unlocked phone would be appreciated and any root links as i havent done it in years.
Beanvee7 said:
You can't downgrade snapdragon S7 models (G930U/T/V/A/P) due to the locked bootloader
Any downgrading would only work on the G930F with OEM unlock
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You can downgrade. You just can't root.
dave678 said:
You can downgrade. You just can't root.
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thats not true
You can downgrade any version bit loader by flashing the combo firmware and the rooting combo firmware then flash stock nougat system image its basically what the root method is for Rev11/B. If you are just on nougat then you would have to get the combo firmware that matches the bootloader version you have because if you flash my rev11/B root method you are forever stuck on that bootloader and can never use nougat again or have oreo root as there is no eng root boot.img available for oreo root on rev11/B bootloader
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You can downgrade any version bit loader by flashing the combo firmware and the rooting combo firmware then flash stock nougat system image its basically what the root method is for Rev11/B. If you are just on nougat then you would have to get the combo firmware that matches the bootloader version you have because if you flash my rev11/B root method you are forever stuck on that bootloader and can never use nougat again or have oreo root as there is no eng root boot.img available for oreo root on rev11/B bootloader
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Oh I meant if you're not rooted.
dave678 said:
Oh I meant if you're not rooted.
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you can downgrade too marshmallow from any version you have because combo firmware for s7 is marshmallow based and its available for all bootloader versions. You just use the combo bootloaders and boot.img and stock system image then root it
If your still on bit 4 you can just flash stock bit 4 marsmallow and root with marshmallow eng root img
Hello,
It's been many years since I messed with rooting or firmware flashes, so please help me out.
I am currently on 106 firmware on a CLT-L29C605 (latin american model).
I see in the following link that 121 firmware can be downloaded for my phone:
https://www.getdroidtips.com/download-huawei-p20-pro-b121-stock-firmware-8-1-0-121-clt-l09-clt-l29/
I have sent the request to Huawei for a bootloader unlock code.
What exactly do I need to do to flash the newer stock update? I don't care about root or xposed or any of that jazz, just want to keep pace with the latest and greatest stock firmware without having to wait for it to hit OTA (if ever).
Do I unlock bootloader and install TWRP and flash the update.zip? If so, do I need the official TWRP or unofficial?
Is there another way to flash the update.zip?
What's the easiest way to accomplish stock firmware updates?
Help!
Someone knowledgeable please weigh in!
Cant REALLY help you but afaik you dont need an unlocked bootloader for a stock firmware.
That doesn't make sense.
to get the newest OTA update you can use Firmware Finder (It's also available in the PlayStore). You don't need to unlock the bootloader or flash a custom recovery to use FirmwareFinder, but the firmware has to be approved for your device (you can check with Firmware Finder).
To flash not approved updates you have to:
1. Unlock bootloader
2. flash TWRP
3. use this Tool
BUT BE AWARE OF after flashing a custom recovery you can't use the offical way to get OTA updates, because it will boot to custom recovery instead of stock recovery. The official update.zip package has some checks which fail when you use TWRP.
The easiest way to get OTA updates without waiting is to use Firmware Finder.
kizilcali81 said:
to get the newest OTA update you can use Firmware Finder (It's also available in the PlayStore). You don't need to unlock the bootloader or flash a custom recovery to use FirmwareFinder, but the firmware has to be approved for your device (you can check with Firmware Finder).
To flash not approved updates you have to:
1. Unlock bootloader
2. flash TWRP
3. use this Tool
BUT BE AWARE OF after flashing a custom recovery you can't use the offical way to get OTA updates, because it will boot to custom recovery instead of stock recovery. The official update.zip package has some checks which fail when you use TWRP.
The easiest way to get OTA updates without waiting is to use Firmware Finder.
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From what I understand, for locked boot loader, using Firmware Finder to update to latest approved firmware does not work for P20 and P20 Pro on Oreo 8.1. You will not be able to use the DNS or in-app Proxy method to update to the latest firmware.
Thanks for everyone that weighed in. I can now state with certainty that the idiot's best method is to use funky huawei. I emailed them the new firmware I was looking for my specific phone, they added it to their site, and I updated it this morning all in 20 minutes. No bootloader, root or any other drama. Their email support is EXCELLENT as well, well worth the reasonable price of entry.
I'm now on 121a, thanks all.
Ol' Blue Eyes said:
From what I understand, for locked boot loader, using Firmware Finder to update to latest approved firmware does not work for P20 and P20 Pro on Oreo 8.1. You will not be able to use the DNS or in-app Proxy method to update to the latest firmware.
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I can download the newest fw with Firmware Finder, but if I do IMEI check all of them are not compatible.
donatinho said:
I can download the newest fw with Firmware Finder, but if I do IMEI check all of them are not compatible.
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I have ran in to the same thing. Still searching for a work around without paying for Funky Huawei.
Did you notice any improvements regarding stability, performance or camera with this new version?
xxaarraa said:
Thanks for everyone that weighed in. I can now state with certainty that the idiot's best method is to use funky huawei. I emailed them the new firmware I was looking for my specific phone, they added it to their site, and I updated it this morning all in 20 minutes. No bootloader, root or any other drama. Their email support is EXCELLENT as well, well worth the reasonable price of entry.
I'm now on 121a, thanks all.
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FunkyHuawei works for me. takes a little bit of time to set new DNS servers in your router and then reset them after flashing but it has worked flawlessly for me. I have the same 605 phone and updated to 121a without any problems.
Hello,
I am attempting to downgrade from Android 8 to 7 on Galaxy S7. When I attempt to flash the old firmware I get the error 'Device 3 - Binary 2'. Does anyone know if there is a workaround for this yet?
DannySB1 said:
Hello,
I am attempting to downgrade from Android 8 to 7 on Galaxy S7. When I attempt to flash the old firmware I get the error 'Device 3 - Binary 2'. Does anyone know if there is a workaround for this yet?
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Odin will not let you flashback to a previous boot loader version, you have to do it through TWRP. So either flash the nougat firmware with TWRP first or any nougat based rom, then flash nougat via odin which will remove root and TWRP.
cooltt said:
Odin will not let you flashback to a previous boot loader version, you have to do it through TWRP. So either flash the nougat firmware with TWRP first or any nougat based rom, then flash nougat via odin which will remove root and TWRP.
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Are there any instructions for this?
Will secure apps (Banking etc) work again after removing root?
I was under the impression you could via Odin if OEM unlock was enabled, without needing TWRP or root. https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-downgrade-android-oreo-8-0-t3821495
edit: As for banking, if you go root then flash back to stock you should have no issues. Even if you stay root, things like Magisk will hide root status from apps and pass safetynet. Your biggest issue would be the loss of Knox, which voids warranty and breaks some Samsung apps.
Beanvee7 said:
I was under the impression you could via Odin if OEM unlock was enabled, without needing TWRP or root. https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-how-to-downgrade-android-oreo-8-0-t3821495
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It is not possible as per some of the replies to that thread. I spent a few hours playing TWRP yesterday and it was not possible either.
DannySB1 said:
It is not possible as per some of the replies to that thread. I spent a few hours playing TWRP yesterday and it was not possible either.
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Ok so listen, it can be done as i said but it's not easy. The choice you have of course before attempting this is to just install a android 7 custom ROM? many nougat ROMs are just stock with the bloatware removed and the boot-loader version isn't checked during flash.
Here's another way to go back, i can't guarantee it will work though i haven't tried it on an S7.
Downgrade to an older firmware with an older bootloader even if one keeps the newer bootloader on his device.
So what's how's it done?
Download the firmware file (.tar) which you want to downgrade to and open it with an archiver application (7zip). Extracts all the files to a folder and repacks them again in a .tar file but leaving every file out which ends in .bin (e.g. sboot.bin etc.). This .tar file can now be flashed like any other firmware file via Odin and it should run through it without any problems.
Hope this helps.
plz tell me how to downgrade i upgraded my phone to oreo now there's no network i need to downgrade back to marshmellow i also installed marshmellow but it stuck on samsung bootloop plz help me
Bipnbarsha said:
plz tell me how to downgrade i upgraded my phone to oreo now there's no network i need to downgrade back to marshmellow i also installed marshmellow but it stuck on samsung bootloop plz help me
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What device? What firmware? What Rom?
S7 edge on oreo and stock rom my network was working fine on marshmellow but after oreo update my mobile network not working unfortunatly my binary has been updated before update i back up everything with twrp but now when i restore using twrp my phone stuck on samsung logo plz help mee
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cooltt said:
Ok so listen, it can be done as i said but it's not easy. The choice you have of course before attempting this is to just install a android 7 custom ROM? many nougat ROMs are just stock with the bloatware removed and the boot-loader version isn't checked during flash.
Here's another way to go back, i can't guarantee it will work though i haven't tried it on an S7.
Downgrade to an older firmware with an older bootloader even if one keeps the newer bootloader on his device.
So what's how's it done?
Download the firmware file (.tar) which you want to downgrade to and open it with an archiver application (7zip). Extracts all the files to a folder and repacks them again in a .tar file but leaving every file out which ends in .bin (e.g. sboot.bin etc.). This .tar file can now be flashed like any other firmware file via Odin and it should run through it without any problems.
Hope this helps.
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Hey man, can you please explain this better ? Im using a galaxy s7 edge, but my firmware doesnt have a TAR file. there are 4 .md5 files (AP,BL,CP,CSC) that are flashable through odin. I want to downgrade bootloader
laurentiudll said:
Hey man, can you please explain this better ? Im using a galaxy s7 edge, but my firmware doesnt have a TAR file. there are 4 .md5 files (AP,BL,CP,CSC) that are flashable through odin. I want to downgrade bootloader
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Hello that method no longer works, you can't downgrade anymore
cooltt said:
Hello that method no longer works, you can't downgrade anymore
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I can downgrade to 14.1 Lineage OS.
Edit: There is no way do downgrade the official firmware
Hi all,
i have updated to latest date android 9 with binary 5. previously i was on binary 2. Now i want to go back to that version of my firmware which had binary version 2 of bootloader. I don't care about my bootloader as i know it can't be downgraded back. I just want to use my previous build firmware with current bootloader. Is that possible ? if yes how can i do that ? What if i extract my old system.img.lz4 file from AP and make it odin flashable and flash it through odin while in download mode ? will i brick my device or not ? pleas advice how can i go back to my previous build of firmware. My phone is Samsung galaxy A6 (SM-A600T).
khalidhotaky said:
Hi all,
i have updated to latest date android 9 with binary 5. previously i was on binary 2. Now i want to go back to that version of my firmware which had binary version 2 of bootloader. I don't care about my bootloader as i know it can't be downgraded back. I just want to use my previous build firmware with current bootloader. Is that possible ? if yes how can i do that ? What if i extract my old system.img.lz4 file from AP and make it odin flashable and flash it through odin while in download mode ? will i brick my device or not ? pleas advice how can i go back to my previous build of firmware. My phone is Samsung galaxy A6 (SM-A600T).
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Bootloader binary version is not the only binary version that you need to be concerned with. If the binary version of your currently installed system is higher than the binary version of the system binary in the binary 2 firmware, you will not be able to downgrade the system partition.
Your question can be resolved with these simple questions:
1) What is the System binary version of your currently installed system? Boot into download mode and look at your S binary version.
2) What is the System binary version of the firmware that you want to downgrade to?
3) Is the System binary version of the firmware that you want to grade to lower than or equal to your currently installed System binary? If it is lower than your currently installed firmware you can't downgrade, if it is equal to your currently installed firmware then you can downgrade.
Droidriven said:
Bootloader binary version is not the only binary version that you need to be concerned with. If the binary version of your currently installed system is higher than the binary version of the system binary in the binary 2 firmware, you will not be able to downgrade the system partition.
Your question can be resolved with these simple questions:
1) What is the System binary version of your currently installed system? Boot into download mode and look at your S binary version.
2) What is the System binary version of the firmware that you want to downgrade to?
3) Is the System binary version of the firmware that you want to grade to lower than or equal to your currently installed System binary? If it is lower than your currently installed firmware you can't downgrade, if it is equal to your currently installed firmware then you can downgrade.
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Thank you for your great reply, to answer your question and solve my query i really need your help. the below answers regarding your questions may help you answer me with right solutions.
1. Currently Booted to download mode and found that RP SWREV: B:5 K:5 S:5
2. I EXACTLY DON'T KNOW, but you can find i think from my old firmware's name as it is A600TUVS2BSG1_A600TTMB2BSG1_TMB
3. I think after seeing the above two answers, you may be able to solve your third question by yourself as i am not able to answer you about this one.
let me know if you need any addiontal information, i really want to solve my query and downgrade back to my old firmware, I was able to to downgrade to android 8 with same version of bootloader v5 binary and was hoping that i could be able to upgrade back to my earler PIE, but later i knew that i wasn't able to do so, and that android 8 was a combination firmware which made me happy just for a small period of time.
Regards.
khalidhotaky said:
Thank you for your great reply, to answer your question and solve my query i really need your help. the below answers regarding your questions may help you answer me with right solutions.
1. Currently Booted to download mode and found that RP SWREV: B:5 K:5 S:5
2. I EXACTLY DON'T KNOW, but you can find i think from my old firmware's name as it is A600TUVS2BSG1_A600TTMB2BSG1_TMB
3. I think after seeing the above two answers, you may be able to solve your third question by yourself as i am not able to answer you about this one.
let me know if you need any addiontal information, i really want to solve my query and downgrade back to my old firmware, I was able to to downgrade to android 8 with same version of bootloader v5 binary and was hoping that i could be able to upgrade back to my earler PIE, but later i knew that i wasn't able to do so, and that android 8 was a combination firmware which made me happy just for a small period of time.
Regards.
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No, you can't flash a binary 2 firmware, your currently installed binary shows that you can only flash a binary 5 or higher firmware. You will not be able to downgrade to the previous version, there is no way to bypass the binary block and there are no tricks to force it to downgrade. You are stuck with what you have, whether you like it or not.
Droidriven said:
No, you can't flash a binary 2 firmware, your currently installed binary shows that you can only flash a binary 5 or higher firmware. You will not be able to downgrade to the previous version, there is no way to bypass the binary block and there are no tricks to force it to downgrade. You are stuck with what you have, whether you like it or not.
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Thanks from your help, it was so sad to hear that. By the way I am thinking why the system should be the same binary version ? This rule was just added for bootloader I think, and now you are adding also this rule for firmware binary. What's the exact story here. We must be able to downgrade to our old firmwares except bootloader.
Also can you please give your advise if the info on below link is valid or not, Is him lying?
Downgrade from Pie to Oreo
Hi guy's so i was able to downgrade from Pie ( One Ui ) to Oreo ( save your media on your sd card or your PC then you check if they are there ) 1 - Go to TWRP or Recovery to wipe data 2- Download and unzip...
forum.xda-developers.com
khalidhotaky said:
Thanks from your help, it was so sad to hear that. By the way I am thinking why the system should be the same binary version ? This rule was just added for bootloader I think, and now you are adding also this rule for firmware binary. What's the exact story here. We must be able to downgrade to our old firmwares except bootloader.
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No, bootloader is not the only binary that matters. There is bootloader binary, kernel binary and system binary. Your currently installed firmware has a bootloader binary 5, kernel binary 5 and system binary 5. This means that you can only flash a firmware that has a bootloader binary 5 or higher but not 4, 3, 2 or 1, or a kernel binary 5 or higher but not 4, 3, 2 or 1 and a system binary 5 other higher but not 4, 3, 2 or 1.
In the cases where users have successfully "downgraded" their firmware were not truly downgrading their firmware, they were flashing a firmware that has a lower android version but not a lower binary. For example, they could have an android 10 firmware with 4 binary installed and "downgrade" to an android 9 firmware that also has a 4 binary. In this case they are not "downgrading" the binary version, they are only downgrading the android version. If their currently installed firmware were android 10 with binary 5, they would not be able to downgrade to android 9 with binary 4.
Also, the link you posted is using TWRP to flash a Pie ROM. They are not using Odin to flash a downgraded firmware. They are flashing a custom file that was created to be flashed via TWRP, similar to flashing a custom ROM, this is not the same as flashing a stock firmware via Odin. This would only be useful to you if your bootloader is unlocked and if there is a TWRP for your device and if there is a downgraded firmware for your device that has been modified to be flashed via TWRP. Odin prevents flashing files with a lower binary, TWRP does not, TWRP will let you flash anything that is made specifically for your device and some things that were not made specifically for your device.
There are specific details involved in this that you just aren't understanding. I'm done trying to explain.
Droidriven said:
No, bootloader is not the only binary that matters. There is bootloader binary, kernel binary and system binary. Your currently installed firmware has a bootloader binary 5, kernel binary 5 and system binary 5. This means that you can only flash a firmware that has a bootloader binary 5 or higher but not 4, 3, 2 or 1, or a kernel binary 5 or higher but not 4, 3, 2 or 1 and a system binary 5 other higher but not 4, 3, 2 or 1.
In the cases where users have successfully "downgraded" their firmware were not truly downgrading their firmware, they were flashing a firmware that has a lower android version but not a lower binary. For example, they could have an android 10 firmware with 4 binary installed and "downgrade" to an android 9 firmware that also has a 4 binary. In this case they are not "downgrading" the binary version, they are only downgrading the android version. If their currently installed firmware were android 10 with binary 5, they would not be able to downgrade to android 9 with binary 4.
Also, the link you posted is using TWRP to flash a Pie ROM. They are not using Odin to flash a downgraded firmware. They are flashing a custom file that was created to be flashed via TWRP, similar to flashing a custom ROM, this is not the same as flashing a stock firmware via Odin. This would only be useful to you if your bootloader is unlocked and if there is a TWRP for your device and if there is a downgraded firmware for your device that has been modified to be flashed via TWRP. Odin prevents flashing files with a lower binary, TWRP does not, TWRP will let you flash anything that is made specifically for your device and some things that were not made specifically for your device.
There are specific details involved in this that you just aren't understanding. I'm done trying to explain.
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Your replies has already made me understand every truth that I was not getting from reading too many articles and on internet forums, you are a really great personality, thanks from your great help and replies. You explained everything very well and after your explanations I am also done with problem. So sad from knowing these rules now. Hope I understood these things before my upgrade. Some people won't get clever like me until first they make a mistake and then know what have they done, anyways it's just not my fault. 50% is Samsung rules blamed for stuff like this. Shame on them for applying these rules on their users. If my phone kept the battery drain issue like this, I will sold it and will switch to iPhone after 17 years of android use. Thanks again mate for your great help.
Regards.
Samsung's downgrade lock is a humiliation to users. Destroying the device's battery consumption is a mockery of the user's intelligence or an abandonment of Samsung's reputation.
ioeg41 said:
Samsung's downgrade lock is a humiliation to users. Destroying the device's battery consumption is a mockery of the user's intelligence or an abandonment of Samsung's reputation.
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Your statement will not change anything. Accept that the economy is structured to increase sales and profits.