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I was thinking that a Generic Android Tablet Discussion thread would be a good idea. No matter the brand , maker size etc. Talk about them here.
Im debating between the Archos 101 and waiting to see if the Moto tab is good.
Whats Out There
I have been keeping a keen eye out for the variety of higher end tablets and here is what I have sort of come up with so far:
Samsung Tablet (7")
Motorola Stingray (10")
Viewsonic viewpad (7")
LG Optimus pad
SteamTV Elocity pad (7")
Archos Family of pads (3"-10")
They all have there merits, and the minor things that make them not so great. But here is a list of the gamot of features you can look for. Some of the tablets have alot of them, some have none, its basically what you want to do with it:
3G
WIFI
GPS
Bluetooth 2.1 or 3.0
Capacitive Screen
USB port(s)
(Micro) SD card slot
HDMI
G-Sensor
Accelerator meter
Geomagnetic sensor
Light Sensor
Front Camera
Back Camera
Google Apps Integration
NVIDA Tegra 2 versus 1GHx CPU w/ GPU
1024 x 600 resolution versus 800 x 480
RAM
Disk Space
Version of Android (2.2 now 3.0 later)
-MW
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
I've been disappointed with the IFA ones as almost all of them have 3G which means here, onerous data contracts or ridiculous prices w/o.
Archos underwent feature regression(e.g. no GPS), and has some whacked prices for the 70 & 101. The rest seem kind of useless to me too small and at least the smallest two don't have any way of expanding storage which makes them kind of useless as anything other than a portable music player.
The Viewsonic is the Olivepad one? Didn't seem to be all that great.
Toshiba Folio MIGHT have been nice, but that Tegra will likely make it expensive.
...just too many hawking 3G and not enough that have useful extras like higher res cameras, GPS, mics, and maybe bluetooth... i.e. I'm just meh'ed by IFA offerings... Witstech A81-E is still looking good and they just got another new fw release 8/31...
Good catch, forgot the toshiba one. Here is what I am looking for a tablet:
3G (mainly so I can have google apps)
7" Display
Capacitive screen (OMLED prefered)
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 upgradeable to android 3.0
front camera
1 GHz CPU (perferably the tegra 2)
GPU (if no NVIDIA CPU)
front camera (dont care about a back one)
A-GPS
Bluetooth (at least 2.1)
WIFI B/G/N
USB
8+ GB internal storage
SD card slot is nice but not manditory
HDMI is nice but not manditory
Which matches up with the samsung tab, but the British price I found had it at over 600 British pounds, which converts to over 1000 US dollars.
-MW
mothy said:
I know they are poppping out of the woodwork now. My biggest thing is that the majority are really expensive. Like the new Toshiba announced today is $540. THat is why Either the Cruz or Archos will match all my criteria. But the nice thing is that there seems to be a ton of different options.
Toshiba Folio 100
10.1-inch capacitive touchscreen
1024 x 600
Android 2.2 (Froyo)
NVIDIA Tegra 2 processor
16 GB internal storage (32 GB available SD expansion)
Adobe Flash 10.1
1.3 MP front-facing camera
Mini-HDMI
USB 2.0
Bluetooth 2.1
WLAN (802.11)
Mobile broadband (available Q1 2011)
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Damn that is expensive.
Im mainly looking for a ereader, web surfer, watch some videos on trips, and check my gapps when on wifi.
Check out the stream tv elocity pad. No 3g, but no gps ether. the reason why everyone puts on 3g is because it's the only way to get google apps on it, until google changes their requirements for google apps.
-MW
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My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
Asadullah said:
My wishlist is 2ghz processor at least 50gb harddrive maybe even (dare I say it) windows 7. I would like my tablet to replace my laptop. Android just isn't ready yet.
I saw talks of honeycomb [url="http://phandroid.com/2010/09/02/android-3-5-honeycomb-to-be-on-samsungs-next-generation-of-tablets-in-2011/]"here[/url] on the samsung tablet. That might be nice . Or that isn't going to be outdated in a few months
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I think a 2Ghz CPU, as of right now, is over powered for android. I have a Gentouch78 tablet that runs at 600MHz and it seems to run OK. My 1GHz nexus one has had no issues, and I have it multi tasking several apps at once sometimes. It will get really hot, especially when I toss the car charger on it while its doing all that, but never seen it slow down to unresponsiveness. As for the HDD space. I dont use mine much for multi media, so 50gb would be overdoing it for me. Just the ability to have an SD card slot would be enough for me, that right there is 32 gb.
Now dealing with the android OS itself, this is where things are starting to get wierd. You have 2.2, which is really a phone OS, you have 3.0 which is really a tablet OS, and so the current samsung tablet is supposed to be 2.2 and will get 3.0, but now this 3.5 is where it gets confusing. Some of the stuff I have been reading is stating that 3.5 is going to be an entirely different OS completly, or at least have an entirely different usage beyond that of a tablet or cell phone. And that you will have to buy an entirely new piece of hardware to use it because samsung already said their current tablet wont get 3.5 when it comes out, but i twill get 3.0. This is making me think that 3.5 may be the google chrome OS, which from what I am hearing I am not a total fan of. So basically, the idea as I understand it, is that the hardware will just be the input/output device and all the applications will be stored on teh cloud as well as the work being done will be done on the cloud. This is all nice and dandy until either 1) everyone gets on all at once and bogs down the system or 2) the cloud or network goes down and the device is worthless. Thats why I like android right now. If you have no data connection you can still do work. Now some things on android that do run off the cloud, like the GPS, if you need to reroute and you loose the data connection, since all the work is done on the back end you cant get anywhere until the data connection comes back.
Since Android is a full fledge Linux OS I think it can do whatever you need it to do, you just need to port the apps over. So i think it can replace a laptop, but there will always be certain things that make a laptop easier to use that are unrelated to the android OS, like a real keyboard. With phones, for instance, I still feel more comfortable texting on a physical keyboard on my blackberry then I do on the virtual keyboard on my nexus one. Now can I develope a web page, photoshop some images and toss them on the web page, with android? If they ported the apps over then sure why not, the physical keyboard will just make it easier. But as soon as you start talking windows 7 you are changing the entire hardware requirements (ARM CPU versus an x86 CPU) which will allow you to run your favorite web development software and photo editing software, and now your 50gb of disk space will be all chewed up with the OS and applications but no room for media, and with the new hardware requirements the price goes up (not like the samsung tab isnt expensive either) but then the bottom line is its still awkward to use because of the lack of a physical keyboard.
Now I am just using web development/photo editing as an example, simplier tasks, like email and web surfing, will require less and are easily done on the android OS. But the bottom line is to use the right tool for the right job, outline your requirements and find a solution that best fits your needs. I believe that android will be a decent laptop replacement if all your doing with your laptop is surfing the web and sending email but if your trying to do less casual stuff, like photo editing and web development, then android right now is obviously not enough, but in the future it might be. It goes back to the age old question, does hardware push the software industry, or does software push the hardware industry?
-MW
Here is the Archos 101 in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZD4Mdkt40g
You can see all the new Archos line in action here:
http://archosfans.com/
Nice...
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
marcelol said:
@mothy: They're all very nice and all..but taking out the GPS is like taking a step back.....Price is nice, but I'm sure there'll be cheaper WITH GPS before too long.
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maybe..but for me I have no use for GPS on a tablet....but that is just me. Just like all new technologies price points will get better with maturity of product.
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
ondrapopik said:
Hello, I am newbie in using (or just having) android tablet and I am seeking one that will suits me. I found this one
Code:
gpccn.com/picshow.asp?id=31&fl=Tablet%20pc
and like it.
I want
capacitive multitouch screen
fast CPU
7 to 10 inch screen
HDMI, USB, G-sensor etc
It looks that this device have all of this, but it has just 512MB nand and it has 1366x768 and I dont know if nand will be enough and if there will be any use for such high resolution if there is no possibilities for using market
What do you thing? Is there anybody who knows this company? Anybody with tablet 1366x768?
Thanks for any reply
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Hmmm.... looks like they took a screenshot of an android VM running on ubuntu and photoshopped it into their device. If they don't have any pictures of the tablet in action, I'd be really dubious...
Finally I ordered this one, so will post some review when it arrives.
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
ondrapopik said:
So I tested tablet I ordered few weeks ago and realized that this is the same device as Advent Vega. I test quadrant benchmark and got 2200 points without any customization of rom.
Screen is nice and response is fast. I can recommend this one.
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Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
Itaintrite said:
Can you tell us where you got it from please? Thanks.
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I found it on alibaba.com ( w w w . alibaba. com/product-tp/111757797/Nvidia_10Inch_tablet_PC_with_Capacitive.html ) or you can try web I posted before
Hi all,
Another Tegra2 tablet, eLocity A7, is finally available in-store:
http://www.centredaily.com/2010/12/15/2404279/elocity-a7-mobile-tablet-launching.html
I'll check it out at Fry's & Micro center.
Seems better option than the Archos 70, but considering about same price of Gtablet, the G appears the better option over the Elocity A7.
Not to mention uncharted mod territiry. Gtablet is proven in that regard
rushless said:
Seems better option than the Archos 70, but considering about same price of Gtablet, the G appears the better option over the Elocity A7.
Not to mention uncharted mod territiry. Gtablet is proven in that regard
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Totally agree. 6 months back I was looking at this tab or Galaxy Tab but got GTab with Zpad/TnT-Lite and there's no looking back ... . BTW, haven't touched my Dell XT 12" laptop since.
I wonder if everything works, or same problems as the other Tegra devices so far.
Seems big price differences:
Amazon = $380
Tiger = $350
BJs = $300
Hmmm.. Which would I pick.....
Agreed on the lappy use. My M11X has been used twice since having the G.
Well looks like elocity took their time, flash works. But angry birds wont install. I got this info from the amazon review from a guy that just got it. My only question is how is the screen? I myself have the gtab and really like it. Once I get my desktop gtab holders, I will be even happier. I was interested in the a7 a few months back and consider it a real contender since they have a built in hdmi port. I know I could have used that port his past weekend while stuck in chicago. After getting the gtab and putting on tnt lite, no going back.
Btw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6foXW1zizM
Shows a hands on review of the Elocity A7 - same screen viewing angles?
only 4gb internal
I'd get it over the gtab if it had a higher Res screen. 800x480 isn't enough.
Looks pretty cool! The screen resolution is a little low, as is the internal memory. But you gotta envy the HDMI port. Our device might be able to do hdmi with a special cable someday soon, but who knows. Also, at a pound, it is not exactly a lightweight. I'm not sure how I would feel about a 7 inch after having the g tablet. There are times I wish our screen was a little bigger...like at the end of the day and my eyes are tired and I am trying to read this forum!
Same display issues as the g, but lower screen res. The advantage with the display is more native for current apps so almost all would work.
Catch is that based on reports, the Nvidia updates we have are not on the device, since Angry Birds apparently does not work. No market bridge yet either.
The issues we have with ports (bluetooth, mounting) and the accelerometer are apparently not an issue. Also, microsd mapping issues are not a factor, since apparently, the entire 4gb is for device app space (no internal sd space), so like the Advent, you need a micro sd.
If just 4gb, smart move mapping this way, since 3.6gb device space is about right. Not too much and not too little.
So far this is what I've gathered:
- viewing angle issue
- No true multitouch (only 1 +1 pinch as stated in eLocity website)
- Quandrant score: ~1800 (stock)
More info about this eLocity A7 posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872299
rushless said:
Same display issues as the g, but lower screen res. The advantage with the display is more native for current apps so almost all would work.
Catch is that based on reports, the Nvidia updates we have are not on the device, since Angry Birds apparently does not work. No market bridge yet either.
The issues we have with ports (bluetooth, mounting) and the accelerometer are apparently not an issue. Also, microsd mapping issues are not a factor, since apparently, the entire 4gb is for device app space (no internal sd space), so like the Advent, you need a micro sd.
If just 4gb, smart move mapping this way, since 3.6gb device space is about right. Not too much and not too little.
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My understanding is the screen is lower rez but seems the viewing angles are definitely better
UPDATED WITH NEW FINDINGS. STILL DUNNO WHAT BRAND IT IS THOUGH.
G'day. I thought I'd go around and hunt on eBay for a cheap ICS android tablet for kicks. I found the one below for a respectable $200. I know that isn't that cheap, but hey, at least it allows me to rip it apart if I'm not happy with it. I've seen some 7" ICS tabs are actually like dev boards hooked up to a LCD and battery... rather amusing (and goes to show how lazy the chinese makers are).
Was wondering if anyone knew about this particular tab.
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Here's the specs:
EDIT: Disregard these specs, read the specs on the device itself here.
Chip: Allwinner (Boxchip) 1.2GHz
GPU: ARM Mali-400 400MHz (same as Samsung Galaxy S II)
Operating System: Android 4.0.3 ("Ice Cream Sandwich")
16:9 Display: 10.1-inch 1024x600-pixel resolution Capacitive Screen
Storage: 8GB Internal
Memory: DDR3 1GB
Sensors: Gforce auto rotational adjustment sensor.
Wireless and Cellular: Wi-Fi (802.11 a/b/g/N).
Front camera, Photos, and Video Recording: 1.3 mega pixel
Video recording, VGA up to 30 frames per second with audio; VGA-quality still camera.
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When it boots up, this is the splash screen:
Here's the photos of what it looks like:
So yeah. Question is, what tablet have I got? The listing URL below says Brand: EKEN, but I doubt that - EKEN only made crappy VT8505 tabs, didn't they? The listing in question: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/300699439891.
Cheers!
中国200美元的平板多了去！配置高价格便宜！
One of my friend has one if this, and it's terrible. they wont let u install market apps and etc. The android version on it is terrible and it's better to wait a lil bit til the prices drops from asus tab or galaxy tab than get a "ICS" tab that will never work properly,
EKEN Has this A10 Powered at android-sale
All A10 Processor Device are main able to install google-play script to get market to download apps and games as I9100
Okay crew, check it out. My tablet has arrived, and interestingly enough, it's nowhere near what it said was it was going to be in the images department. I'm updating the first post with new pictures, but yeah, it's interesting.
Seems to be using a CraneBoard under the bonnet. At least Android System Info says so, you can check out the details for yourself here.
Opened it up and it's not a craneboard. It's actually an Allwinner CPU for sure.
However, I did manage to get Clockwork Recovery running on it which makes it easier to fool around with.
You can also read the text review here:
http://www.mobiletechasia.com/?p=1677
The Teclast X98 Pro has been launched at 1399Yuan ($225USD) with the following specs, see below:
Processor: 2.24 GHz quad-core Intel Atom X5-Z8500
Memory/Storage: 4 GB LPDDR3 RAM; 64 GB internal storage and microSD slot
Display: 9.7-inch multitouch with 2,048X1,536 pixels and 264 ppi
Cameras: 2 MP front, 5 MP back
Connectivity: WiFi 802.11 b/g/n, Bluetooth 4.0, mini HDMI, micro USB 2.0
Operating system: Windows 10 Home Edition
Battery: 8000 mAh
Weight: 1.19 pounds
It could definitely be a Surface 3 killer assuming the user experience doesn't suck.
This thread will be updated as more info, reviews, unboxings and questions come in.
I've been looking forward to this device. My only problem with it is I haven't seen any decent keyboard docks that aren't just flimsy foldable cases for any of the X98 line.
Its on sale on Tinydeal too.
http://www.tinydeal.com/es/teclast-...-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-155607.html
I will have to buy it from here since aliexpress does not ship to my country.
Heard that they will release a dual boot android/10 down there road.
Any truth to this? if so i will hold tight for that.
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had it open in a tab i hadn't got to yet.
http://techtablets.com/2015/08/teclast-x98-pro-price-dual-boot-and-4g-systems-to-follow/
Wonder how long we are talking... a few weeks? a few months?
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People seem to think that the dual boot is just a software flash/upgrade away. And that you wouldn't have to actually buy a different model.
This would make me pull the trigger on it.
What do you guys think?
PeterLOliver said:
I've been looking forward to this device. My only problem with it is I haven't seen any decent keyboard docks that aren't just flimsy foldable cases for any of the X98 line.
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It's dimensions are just about identical to the iPad Air, I'm reasonably sure something like this should work just fine - http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/ultrathin-air?crid=1608
Ricochet90 said:
Its on sale on Tinydeal too.
http://www.tinydeal.com/es/teclast-...-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-155607.html
I will have to buy it from here since aliexpress does not ship to my country.
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Link is broken, sounds Tinydeal canceled. Would give a shot to geekbuying http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tecl...-64G-HDMI-Bluetooth-WiFi---Sliver-350953.html
Tinydeal just updated the link.
Here it is again http://www.tinydeal.com/es/teclast-...-4gb-64gb-tablet-pc-w-bluetooth-p-155607.html
I've been looking at this tablet for the past hour and it seems really nice. Also, the best price I could find was here: http://dealsnow.info/2015/08/14/teclast-x98-pro-best-windows-10-tablet-currently-available/
It also offers a 5$ discount off the regular price.
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People seem to think that the dual boot is just a software flash/upgrade away. And that you wouldn't have to actually buy a different model.
This would make me pull the trigger on it.
What do you guys think?
Any thoughts on JustusIV question on this?? I am in the same position, ready to hit the "preorder" button if anybody could indicate if this would be "dual-bootable" after a software upgrade and not beeing a hardware issue?
Robert_it said:
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People seem to think that the dual boot is just a software flash/upgrade away. And that you wouldn't have to actually buy a different model.
This would make me pull the trigger on it.
What do you guys think?
Any thoughts on JustusIV question on this?? I am in the same position, ready to hit the "preorder" button if anybody could indicate if this would be "dual-bootable" after a software upgrade and not beeing a hardware issue?
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According to the official Teclast website this is a Windows only tablet. I could not find any mention of dual-boot. Also, at the link I posted earlier it seems to be in Stock, not just pre-order.
cant wait for it to deliver!
hey all i just bought this tablet. I really don't care if it has dual boot on it or not. I have been testing out an emulator called DROID4X and it is absolutely amazing. Its extremely fast once you get it downloaded of course (slow download). I ran a bunch of benchmarks and scored higher than any other system. so the emulator works really good. very stable, and all the games Ive played on it so far work perfectly.
I scored 83,000 on ice storm unlimited.
114,000 on antutu.
8.926 seconds on 10,000,000 pi.
of course I'm running this all on an oc 4790k build but even if the z8500 can do 30% of that ill be fine. If they get dual boot working on it even better. Until then the emulator works perfect. i would score higher but my system isn't optimized to run android. I actually ran android off of boot able USB and it was horribly slow. i might snag another ssd to install it because i don't want to fragment my windows ssd. that's one concern i have about the dual boot. can anyone chime in on how well the system will separate the files for dual boot? what if you need to reinstall windows or reset android?
That's amazing. have you tried PS2 emulators (or gamecube)?
Greetings my friends! Any way to clone dump the eMMC to an external backup drive, USB Flash Drive (Pen drive) or microSD Card?
I need to backup everything including Windows and Android boot partitions, data partitions, recovery partitions before doing anything on the tablet.
Thanks!
temperature problems
Hello,
did you detect temperature problems which my cause of core throttleing ?
I read in another forum abour 86C in one core. Ther is a video how to improve
cooling capacity of the tablet.
Thinking about to use it as desktop replacement for my daugther and me.
Is it fast enough for itunes, MS Office, Full HD Video and some easy gaming ?
best regards huggy2008
It is. On youtube you can find some videos that show some basic performance
$239 at aliexpress now. Win 10 and android 5.1 pre-installed but it doesn't say if it's dual-boot. Sale price (20% off) only valid for 24 hours starting September 14.
Nice find. I also posted the link on my site (http://dealsnow.info/2015/09/14/teclast-x98-pro-dual-boot-for-just-240/ has affiliate link)
Direct link to the product (no affiliate link): http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...ablet-PC-Intel-Cherry/609719_32458020265.html
Hey guys, I uploaded my video review and unboxing of the Teclast X98 Pro!
Hi Gents, also the dual boot version is out for sale
I will getting one tomorrow. Its the windows 10 only version. Will be my first tablet.
I recently bought an Android tablet on Aliexpress (caveat emptor), with quite high specs (screen res, Android 11, 12GB + 256 GB etc). It was extremely sluggish and I couldn't get many of my favourite apps to work on it. So I checked with a Fake Device Test app. It turns out that the screen resolution is much lower (1280 x 800), the memory is much lower, etc. The android is reported as 5.1 The processor is ARMv7,
SOC is MT6592
I have managed to get an old version of Netflix to work, and an ebook reader, so it is not completely a doorstop.
My question is, how can I upgrade. Maybe to Lineage, or some other ROM.
Has anyone ever come across this or similar devices? Any other ideas?
Thanks.